MOF Phoenix show: Yim Yames showcased..

[The Drake]

This guy obviously has issues. Who goes to a show of someone that don't like and then complains that they don't like the show?  I don't go to McDonald's and then ask for my money back, I just don't go to McDonald's.

Sounds like a troll to me, don't feed him.

[yimloko]

Wow, funny stuff. I have tickets to attend the Toronto show. Can't wait. I on the other hand, am planning on having a good time, not only because I think every musician in Mof is very talented, but because I actually want to go... Isn't that a concept forthebel or whatever your name is. I try, I do say TRY to attend concerts that actually interests me, suggestion: You should TRY doing the same.

[TEO]

'Bout time this forum got heated up again!   ;) ;D

[DaFunkyPrecedent]

I love fortbethel!

[Ghosts_on_TV]

I don't think there is any need to get heated, it is his opinion, after all. We all have one. I'm just trying to understand his logic. You obviously don't like Conor or M. Ward. You think MOF is a failed project. I still don't know if you like the album or not. You are a fan of MMJ and Jim. All of that is fine. My question is why did you go to the show? You don't like 2/3's of the songwriters, or possibly the MOF album itself. I mean, it's your money, but $50 is a lot of it for 5 or 6 MMJ songs, which you already said was the only thing you dug about the whole experience. It seems like you were setting yourself up for disappointment. SO why did you go? I'm asking sincerely, I'm curious.

[fortbethel]

I love fortbethel!

Why thank you kind sir, lass whichever applies :)

[fortbethel]

I don't think there is any need to get heated, it is his opinion, after all. We all have one. I'm just trying to understand his logic. You obviously don't like Conor or M. Ward. You think MOF is a failed project. I still don't know if you like the album or not. You are a fan of MMJ and Jim. All of that is fine. My question is why did you go to the show? You don't like 2/3's of the songwriters, or possibly the MOF album itself. I mean, it's your money, but $50 is a lot of it for 5 or 6 MMJ songs, which you already said was the only thing you dug about the whole experience. It seems like you were setting yourself up for disappointment. SO why did you go? I'm asking sincerely, I'm curious.

A family member bought me a ticket as a gift. The gig really did suck.
At least I was able to get through it thanks to the herb I smoked before. If I was sober I would have left after the 2nd song. MOF are a sad sad supergroup. They will fail.

[Ghosts_on_TV]

I don't think there is any need to get heated, it is his opinion, after all. We all have one. I'm just trying to understand his logic. You obviously don't like Conor or M. Ward. You think MOF is a failed project. I still don't know if you like the album or not. You are a fan of MMJ and Jim. All of that is fine. My question is why did you go to the show? You don't like 2/3's of the songwriters, or possibly the MOF album itself. I mean, it's your money, but $50 is a lot of it for 5 or 6 MMJ songs, which you already said was the only thing you dug about the whole experience. It seems like you were setting yourself up for disappointment. SO why did you go? I'm asking sincerely, I'm curious.

A family member bought me a ticket as a gift. The gig really did suck.
At least I was able to get through it thanks to the herb I smoked before. If I was sober I would have left after the 2nd song. MOF are a sad sad supergroup. They will fail.

You win some, you lose some. However, even though you think MOF is a "sad, sad supergroup", which like I've said already is fine, they will not fail. Like it or not, you are in the minority. They've already succeeded.

[fortbethel]

I don't think there is any need to get heated, it is his opinion, after all. We all have one. I'm just trying to understand his logic. You obviously don't like Conor or M. Ward. You think MOF is a failed project. I still don't know if you like the album or not. You are a fan of MMJ and Jim. All of that is fine. My question is why did you go to the show? You don't like 2/3's of the songwriters, or possibly the MOF album itself. I mean, it's your money, but $50 is a lot of it for 5 or 6 MMJ songs, which you already said was the only thing you dug about the whole experience. It seems like you were setting yourself up for disappointment. SO why did you go? I'm asking sincerely, I'm curious.

A family member bought me a ticket as a gift. The gig really did suck.
At least I was able to get through it thanks to the herb I smoked before. If I was sober I would have left after the 2nd song. MOF are a sad sad supergroup. They will fail.

You win some, you lose some. However, even though you think MOF is a "sad, sad supergroup", which like I've said already is fine, they will not fail. Like it or not, you are in the minority. They've already succeeded.

I'll be having the last word on this overblown debate Casper

[Sticky Icky Green Stuff]

I don't think there is any need to get heated, it is his opinion, after all. We all have one. I'm just trying to understand his logic. You obviously don't like Conor or M. Ward. You think MOF is a failed project. I still don't know if you like the album or not. You are a fan of MMJ and Jim. All of that is fine. My question is why did you go to the show? You don't like 2/3's of the songwriters, or possibly the MOF album itself. I mean, it's your money, but $50 is a lot of it for 5 or 6 MMJ songs, which you already said was the only thing you dug about the whole experience. It seems like you were setting yourself up for disappointment. SO why did you go? I'm asking sincerely, I'm curious.

A family member bought me a ticket as a gift. The gig really did suck.
At least I was able to get through it thanks to the herb I smoked before. If I was sober I would have left after the 2nd song. MOF are a sad sad supergroup. They will fail.

You win some, you lose some. However, even though you think MOF is a "sad, sad supergroup", which like I've said already is fine, they will not fail. Like it or not, you are in the minority. They've already succeeded.

I'll be having the last word on this overblown debate Casper

I'm going to eat your face forbethel.

[Ghosts_on_TV]

I don't think there is any need to get heated, it is his opinion, after all. We all have one. I'm just trying to understand his logic. You obviously don't like Conor or M. Ward. You think MOF is a failed project. I still don't know if you like the album or not. You are a fan of MMJ and Jim. All of that is fine. My question is why did you go to the show? You don't like 2/3's of the songwriters, or possibly the MOF album itself. I mean, it's your money, but $50 is a lot of it for 5 or 6 MMJ songs, which you already said was the only thing you dug about the whole experience. It seems like you were setting yourself up for disappointment. SO why did you go? I'm asking sincerely, I'm curious.

A family member bought me a ticket as a gift. The gig really did suck.
At least I was able to get through it thanks to the herb I smoked before. If I was sober I would have left after the 2nd song. MOF are a sad sad supergroup. They will fail.

You win some, you lose some. However, even though you think MOF is a "sad, sad supergroup", which like I've said already is fine, they will not fail. Like it or not, you are in the minority. They've already succeeded.

I'll be having the last word on this overblown debate Casper

Will you? Go find me 3 reviews of the album that are negative, or 3 reviews of any of the shows they played (besides yours) that are negative, and maybe I'll take your last word into consideration. Until then, I stand by the FACT that most people dig Monsters of Folk.

[fortbethel]

I don't think there is any need to get heated, it is his opinion, after all. We all have one. I'm just trying to understand his logic. You obviously don't like Conor or M. Ward. You think MOF is a failed project. I still don't know if you like the album or not. You are a fan of MMJ and Jim. All of that is fine. My question is why did you go to the show? You don't like 2/3's of the songwriters, or possibly the MOF album itself. I mean, it's your money, but $50 is a lot of it for 5 or 6 MMJ songs, which you already said was the only thing you dug about the whole experience. It seems like you were setting yourself up for disappointment. SO why did you go? I'm asking sincerely, I'm curious.

A family member bought me a ticket as a gift. The gig really did suck.
At least I was able to get through it thanks to the herb I smoked before. If I was sober I would have left after the 2nd song. MOF are a sad sad supergroup. They will fail.

You win some, you lose some. However, even though you think MOF is a "sad, sad supergroup", which like I've said already is fine, they will not fail. Like it or not, you are in the minority. They've already succeeded.

I'll be having the last word on this overblown debate Casper

Will you? Go find me 3 reviews of the album that are negative, or 3 reviews of any of the shows they played (besides yours) that are negative, and maybe I'll take your last word into consideration. Until then, I stand by the FACT that most people dig Monsters of Folk.

USA Today said it sucked and here's a 2nd bad review I'll post the 3d out of many bad reviews in a bit


Monsters of Folk
Monsters of Folk
[Shangri-La; 2009]


Styles: The Traveling Wilburys' second album, what I imagine Chickenfoot would sound like if they were simpering assholes instead of cocksure assholes
Others: Uh, you know who's involved in this, right?
Links: Monsters of Folk - Shangri-La

Blame it on the Jenny. After all, if M. Ward, Conor Oberst, and Ben Gibbard hadn't come together for a forgettable cover of The Traveling Wilburys' "Handle With Care" for Jenny Lewis' also-forgettable 2006 solo bow, Rabbit Fur Coat, this whole Monsters of Folk affair may not be occupying the minutiae of our collective consciousness. Then again: Gibbard and Lewis are out, Jim James and über-producer Mike Mogis are in, and the project takes its so-dumb-it's-really-dumb nom de plume (what, was "Gangsta Motherfolkers" taken?) from a tour the newly-minted quartet embarked on back in 2004. So maybe I'm just misogynistic.

Either way, two things are certain: these guys made an album together, and it is long. Not "long" as in "epic" — only one song in the 15-song set barely pushes the 5-minute mark — but "long" as in, "Why have outtakes if we could fit everything we recorded onto one CD?" Based on that assessment, I don't have to tell you about the quality control exercised on Monsters of Folk, but I will anyway: it's nowhere to be found. There's no sense of cohesion or flow between any of these songs, partially due to a clear lack of thought devoted to these conceits, but mostly because every M. Ward- and Conor Oberst-penned song sounds the same lately.

In Ward's case, that's not a bad thing; over the course of his last several solo albums (as well as his Hazlewood-esque role in She & Him), he's been quietly perfecting his own brand of nostalgic folk-pop (although one can unfortunately deduce that his once-worn John Fahey records are gathering dust somewhere). Perfection can be a gift — and, at times, it is here, as evidenced by the lovingly languid pacing of "The Sandman, the Brakeman, and Me" — but it can turn any brand bland; the lazy Beatles pastiche of "Whole Lotta Losin'" (who's he kidding with that false open?) comes off as trite, whereas "Baby Boomer" seems to be a near-insulting write-around of one of Ward's best solo songs, Post War's "Chinese Translation."

Oberst's situation is even more dire; the guy's been treading water in the same political-hogwash pool since he wrote the silly "When the President Talks to God." It's as if he's forgotten what makes his brand so sporadically enthralling — the wrenching details of post-adolescent ennui — by letting those let's-not-even-talk-about-it Bob Dylan comparisons go straight to his very ideologically confused mind. "Man Named Truth" is so typically fuck-the-world that it's hard not to mistake it for a well-composed prank, and "Temezcal" is the kind of sonic back-handed amateur travelogue that makes Dylan's "Mozambique" seem authentic in comparison.

A fair amount of hay has been made about James' presence as the highlight of Monsters of Folk, and the claim's not without merit. When he's not adding serene backing vocals to complement the record's white-bread ordinariness, his lead takes on "Dear God (sincerely M.O.F.)," "His Master's Voice," and "Say Please" offer desperately-needed respite for weary listeners. The only problem is that when you hear James' voice, you wait for one of those titanic riffs that My Morning Jacket are so expert at uncoiling, but they never come. Hey, MMJ: please save us from more of this

[Markus E. Realeus]

Yeah, and?

USA Today? Are you kidding me? Thats about the least credible source for any kind of criticism I could possibly think of.
Might as well just start getting your record reviews from Popular Science, ya know?

[capt. scotty]

I don't think there is any need to get heated, it is his opinion, after all. We all have one. I'm just trying to understand his logic. You obviously don't like Conor or M. Ward. You think MOF is a failed project. I still don't know if you like the album or not. You are a fan of MMJ and Jim. All of that is fine. My question is why did you go to the show? You don't like 2/3's of the songwriters, or possibly the MOF album itself. I mean, it's your money, but $50 is a lot of it for 5 or 6 MMJ songs, which you already said was the only thing you dug about the whole experience. It seems like you were setting yourself up for disappointment. SO why did you go? I'm asking sincerely, I'm curious.

A family member bought me a ticket as a gift. The gig really did suck.
At least I was able to get through it thanks to the herb I smoked before. If I was sober I would have left after the 2nd song. MOF are a sad sad supergroup. They will fail.

You win some, you lose some. However, even though you think MOF is a "sad, sad supergroup", which like I've said already is fine, they will not fail. Like it or not, you are in the minority. They've already succeeded.

I'll be having the last word on this overblown debate Casper

I'm going to eat your face forbethel.

did you already fart in it?

[BH]

Sounds like a troll to me, don't feed him.

Truth has been spoken.

USA TODAY
Monsters of Folk Review
It sucked

Now for the weather.....

[DaFunkyPrecedent]

I love fortbethel!

Why thank you kind sir, lass whichever applies :)

you know...sometimes I can relate to you and I like that you speak your mind and say it how you actually would in "real life" - although I disagree with you on this topic, I still love the fact that you get people panties all in a wad.

PS: USA Today is the worst "news" source in the States.  I would rather pick up the Mendicino Beacon or The Durango Hearld and read about complications involving the new charter schools electrical system, than read anything USA Today values as important.  

[Sticky Icky Green Stuff]

I don't think there is any need to get heated, it is his opinion, after all. We all have one. I'm just trying to understand his logic. You obviously don't like Conor or M. Ward. You think MOF is a failed project. I still don't know if you like the album or not. You are a fan of MMJ and Jim. All of that is fine. My question is why did you go to the show? You don't like 2/3's of the songwriters, or possibly the MOF album itself. I mean, it's your money, but $50 is a lot of it for 5 or 6 MMJ songs, which you already said was the only thing you dug about the whole experience. It seems like you were setting yourself up for disappointment. SO why did you go? I'm asking sincerely, I'm curious.

A family member bought me a ticket as a gift. The gig really did suck.
At least I was able to get through it thanks to the herb I smoked before. If I was sober I would have left after the 2nd song. MOF are a sad sad supergroup. They will fail.

You win some, you lose some. However, even though you think MOF is a "sad, sad supergroup", which like I've said already is fine, they will not fail. Like it or not, you are in the minority. They've already succeeded.

I'll be having the last word on this overblown debate Casper

I'm going to eat your face forbethel.

did you already fart in it?

no way dude. I'm not going to eat fart face, are you crazy?

[Sticky Icky Green Stuff]

I love fortbethel!

Why thank you kind sir, lass whichever applies :)

you know...sometimes I can relate to you and I like that you speak your mind and say it how you actually would in "real life" - although I disagree with you on this topic, I still love the fact that you get people panties all in a wad.

PS: USA Today is the worst "news" source in the States.  I would rather pick up the Mendicino Beacon or The Durango Hearld and read about complications involving the new charter schools electrical system, than read anything USA Today values as important.  

he can wad my dick.  

[AMightyCaporal]

I don't think there is any need to get heated, it is his opinion, after all. We all have one. I'm just trying to understand his logic. You obviously don't like Conor or M. Ward. You think MOF is a failed project. I still don't know if you like the album or not. You are a fan of MMJ and Jim. All of that is fine. My question is why did you go to the show? You don't like 2/3's of the songwriters, or possibly the MOF album itself. I mean, it's your money, but $50 is a lot of it for 5 or 6 MMJ songs, which you already said was the only thing you dug about the whole experience. It seems like you were setting yourself up for disappointment. SO why did you go? I'm asking sincerely, I'm curious.

A family member bought me a ticket as a gift. The gig really did suck.
At least I was able to get through it thanks to the herb I smoked before. If I was sober I would have left after the 2nd song. MOF are a sad sad supergroup. They will fail.

You win some, you lose some. However, even though you think MOF is a "sad, sad supergroup", which like I've said already is fine, they will not fail. Like it or not, you are in the minority. They've already succeeded.

I'll be having the last word on this overblown debate Casper

I'm going to eat your face forbethel.

did you already fart in it?

no way dude. I'm not going to eat fart face, are you crazy?

hahaha can you please make that your signature- I think that's the funniest thing you have ever said.

[Sticky Icky Green Stuff]

I don't think there is any need to get heated, it is his opinion, after all. We all have one. I'm just trying to understand his logic. You obviously don't like Conor or M. Ward. You think MOF is a failed project. I still don't know if you like the album or not. You are a fan of MMJ and Jim. All of that is fine. My question is why did you go to the show? You don't like 2/3's of the songwriters, or possibly the MOF album itself. I mean, it's your money, but $50 is a lot of it for 5 or 6 MMJ songs, which you already said was the only thing you dug about the whole experience. It seems like you were setting yourself up for disappointment. SO why did you go? I'm asking sincerely, I'm curious.

A family member bought me a ticket as a gift. The gig really did suck.
At least I was able to get through it thanks to the herb I smoked before. If I was sober I would have left after the 2nd song. MOF are a sad sad supergroup. They will fail.

You win some, you lose some. However, even though you think MOF is a "sad, sad supergroup", which like I've said already is fine, they will not fail. Like it or not, you are in the minority. They've already succeeded.

I'll be having the last word on this overblown debate Casper

I'm going to eat your face forbethel.

did you already fart in it?

no way dude. I'm not going to eat fart face, are you crazy?

hahaha can you please make that your signature- I think that's the funniest thing you have ever said.

I can't sig my own quote.  plus I always gotta keep things fresh, can't stuck on yesterdays joke.  one step ahead caporal, one step ahead.  

back on topic wtf.  MoF kick ass.