NCAA Hoops 2007-2008

[bowl of soup]

Laettner never really had any Terp-killing moments, the top 3 on my list were notorious Terp-killers, and Alla represents the smug superiority that us low-class Maryland fans hate so much.  JJ Redick and Danny Ferry are honorable mentions.

Danny Ferry really should be on my list for personal reasons.  He went to DeMatha in Maryland and was friends with my cousin who played in the Capital Classic high-school all-star game and played small college ball in NC.  Mother-fucker was at my house and dunked on my rim in the back yard (we had a full-court in my back yard when I lived in Maryland) Daryl Dawkins style and broke it.  Made me cry.

I hate you Danny Ferry!

[aMD]

there's only one thing worse than a Duke fan, that's a bandwagon Duke fan. I can understand if you went to school there, but how anyone can root for those spoiled brats is beyond me.

I think it's because for the past 18 years I have been living in Kentucky and for all my 27 years I have been rooting against UK.  I fell in love with them when Laettner ripped their hearts out in that Elite 8 game (still one of the best games I've ever seen). I like watching ACC ball but I like seeing Duke clean the floor with everyone within it.  Basically Duke beats all the people I don't like and I love them for that.

...and all that other stuff I said.

[primushead]

there's only one thing worse than a Duke fan, that's a bandwagon Duke fan. I can understand if you went to school there, but how anyone can root for those spoiled brats is beyond me. Let me see, I think I'll pick a team that's always in the NCAA tourney and root for them! Yeah, that's it!

please

Thank you Tracy.

I hate you aMD ;)

[aMD]

there's only one thing worse than a Duke fan, that's a bandwagon Duke fan. I can understand if you went to school there, but how anyone can root for those spoiled brats is beyond me. Let me see, I think I'll pick a team that's always in the NCAA tourney and root for them! Yeah, that's it!

please

Thank you Tracy.

I hate you aMD ;)

I bet you do.  You probably hate me for the same reason you hate duke. Jealousy.

;)

[tower]

Roy Williams is over-rated in my opinion although a very good recruiter.  

;D ;D ;D

Did I miss something?  524 wins (not to mention hitting that 500th win faster than any other NCAA coach in history)  in 19 seasons, a win percentage that is fourth-best in history, a national championship, 11 regular-season conference titles, five Final Fours, 16 first-round draft picks and that is over-rated?  

I think Tom Izzo IS a very great coach, and runs a hell of a basketball program...but he still falls over 200 wins short of Roy, 1 less final four appearance and so forth.  

But, If you have a valid argument for Roy Williams being overrated, I'd love to hear it. ::)

Oh, don't get me wrong, he has a great winning percentage and is highly successful but I think he's over rated in how good of a coach he is, not that it's his fault...he can't control what others say or write about him. I don't dislike him or think he's a hack. I get irritated with the media hype surrounding him. I have the same irritation at the hype given to Hansbrough...the kid is good but I don't think he's great.  He works hard and does a lot for his team but he's not what the media (Dickie V. esp.) makes him out to be....again, not his fault.

Tom Izzo has been to the Final Four four times in a much shorter period of time, has won the same amount of Nat. Championships, 6 taken first round (although how many were highly touted coming into his program) in the NBA. And Williams has done that at two of the most storied places in bball history where he has had fantastic recruits!  Michigan State is one of the better bball schools for sure but I'd say recruiting to NC is much easier than to MSU, although they're not really competing for the same kids. If you give the same group of kids to Williams and Izzo I would say Izzo gets so much more out of them over a season.

Kind of like Dean Smith...with all the unbelievable talent he's had, just one Nat. Championship?

[primushead]

Roy Williams is over-rated in my opinion although a very good recruiter.  

;D ;D ;D

Did I miss something?  524 wins (not to mention hitting that 500th win faster than any other NCAA coach in history)  in 19 seasons, a win percentage that is fourth-best in history, a national championship, 11 regular-season conference titles, five Final Fours, 16 first-round draft picks and that is over-rated?  

I think Tom Izzo IS a very great coach, and runs a hell of a basketball program...but he still falls over 200 wins short of Roy, 1 less final four appearance and so forth.  

But, If you have a valid argument for Roy Williams being overrated, I'd love to hear it. ::)

Oh, don't get me wrong, he has a great winning percentage and is highly successful but I think he's over rated in how good of a coach he is, not that it's his fault...he can't control what others say or write about him. I don't dislike him or think he's a hack. I get irritated with the media hype surrounding him. I have the same irritation at the hype given to Hansbrough...the kid is good but I don't think he's great.  He works hard and does a lot for his team but he's not what the media (Dickie V. esp.) makes him out to be....again, not his fault.

Tom Izzo has been to the Final Four four times in a much shorter period of time, has won the same amount of Nat. Championships, 6 taken first round (although how many were highly touted coming into his program) in the NBA. And Williams has done that at two of the most storied places in bball history where he has had fantastic recruits!  Michigan State is one of the better bball schools for sure but I'd say recruiting to NC is much easier than to MSU, although they're not really competing for the same kids. If you give the same group of kids to Williams and Izzo I would say Izzo gets so much more out of them over a season.

Kind of like Dean Smith...with all the unbelievable talent he's had, just one Nat. Championship?

Fair enough.  (Although Dean Smith had TWO national championships).

[tower]

Yea, I was referring to Williams with the one Nat. Championship.

I'm hoping that Izzo stays at MSU for a very long time and builds an unbelievable record.  I know it takes a lot from him but hey, I'm selfish.  Then again, his wheels could fall off.

[primushead]

Oh, gotcha now.

[aMD]

there's only one thing worse than a Duke fan, that's a bandwagon Duke fan. I can understand if you went to school there, but how anyone can root for those spoiled brats is beyond me. Let me see, I think I'll pick a team that's always in the NCAA tourney and root for them! Yeah, that's it!

please

only a saints/ole miss fans would insult me because my team is not shitty enough.  i have given about ten good reasons why i root for duke and everyone can only give one reason to hate them: because they are good.

please

[ycartrob]

there's only one thing worse than a Duke fan, that's a bandwagon Duke fan. I can understand if you went to school there, but how anyone can root for those spoiled brats is beyond me. Let me see, I think I'll pick a team that's always in the NCAA tourney and root for them! Yeah, that's it!

please

only a saints/ole miss fans would insult me because my team is not shitty enough.  i have given about ten good reasons why i root for duke and everyone can only give one reason to hate them: because they are good.

please

well, I was born in New Orleans and went to Ole Miss. I am loyal and I don't bandwagon. Home is more important than sucking the ass of a winning team. (Ohio St. and Duke included)

[primushead]

there's only one thing worse than a Duke fan, that's a bandwagon Duke fan. I can understand if you went to school there, but how anyone can root for those spoiled brats is beyond me. Let me see, I think I'll pick a team that's always in the NCAA tourney and root for them! Yeah, that's it!

please

only a saints/ole miss fans would insult me because my team is not shitty enough.  i have given about ten good reasons why i root for duke and everyone can only give one reason to hate them: because they are good.

please

There are about 25 good reasons in this article to hate them.  Check it:

http://www.truthaboutduke.com/antidook1.php

Here's an excerpt about bandwagoning fans too ;):

-- Chapter Six --
The Fans

No essay on the subject can be complete without discussion of the mindless Duke fan base that has emerged over the past decade or so. As distinguished from the obnoxious student body that at least has a reason to support the team, these are the fair-weather fans that simply root for whichever team enjoys a winning tradition at a given point in time. They are the folks we see in four-wheel drives donning Blue Devil baseball caps and championship bumper stickers. Neither the Duke fan nor his close friends or family members attended Duke, but they have all purchased Blue Devil apparel from a Durham County Wal-Mart.

Unheard of during Krzyzewski's early years, this growing collection of gullible dupes also buys into the media's misplaced love for Duke by believing that the program and its coach are class unmatched. Most of the fans are North Carolinians, who, perhaps not unreasonably, assume that the school's central state location is reason enough to justify an allegiance to it. Because the Blue Devil fan has no firsthand experience with the school, he has no idea that the vast majority of the student body (eighty-five percent) is imported, with a large percentage comprising smug Northeastern carpetbaggers who constantly mock North Carolina and its native residents. Much of the independent Duke fan base consists of teen and pre-teen fans, a fact that confirms the necessity of compulsory education and minimum age drinking laws.

[bowl of soup]

"Challenge" over:  ACC 8 - Big Ten 3.  Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech, and NC State:  You are now free to join the Big Sky.

[tower]

"Challenge" over:  ACC 8 - Big Ten 3.  Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech, and NC State:  You are now free to join the Big Sky.

Snore...wake me in March.

[aMD]

there's only one thing worse than a Duke fan, that's a bandwagon Duke fan. I can understand if you went to school there, but how anyone can root for those spoiled brats is beyond me. Let me see, I think I'll pick a team that's always in the NCAA tourney and root for them! Yeah, that's it!

please

only a saints/ole miss fans would insult me because my team is not shitty enough.  i have given about ten good reasons why i root for duke and everyone can only give one reason to hate them: because they are good.

please

well, I was born in New Orleans and went to Ole Miss. I am loyal and I don't bandwagon. Home is more important than sucking the ass of a winning team. (Ohio St. and Duke included)

well, I was born in Ohio so I "suck their ass" because it IS my home.  Don't fault me because I'm not a jealous-ass, born-loser like yourself.  

Some people's teams actually do win on occasion.  That doesn't necessarily mean they are bandwagon fans.

[ycartrob]

there's only one thing worse than a Duke fan, that's a bandwagon Duke fan. I can understand if you went to school there, but how anyone can root for those spoiled brats is beyond me. Let me see, I think I'll pick a team that's always in the NCAA tourney and root for them! Yeah, that's it!

please

only a saints/ole miss fans would insult me because my team is not shitty enough.  i have given about ten good reasons why i root for duke and everyone can only give one reason to hate them: because they are good.

please

well, I was born in New Orleans and went to Ole Miss. I am loyal and I don't bandwagon. Home is more important than sucking the ass of a winning team. (Ohio St. and Duke included)

well, I was born in Ohio so I "suck their ass" because it IS my home.  Don't fault me because I'm not a jealous-ass, born-loser like yourself.  

Some people's teams actually do win on occasion.  That doesn't necessarily mean they are bandwagon fans.

It's just different when you're born into it or you went to school there; you live it. It's not a "choice", it chooses you. How would one decide on a team if they're from a state and they're not born into it or go to school there? Lets see, (my guess there were teams closer to your hometown that just weren't "good enough" to root for?)

Colleges in Ohio with football programs:

Bowling Green
Kent St.
Miami (of Ohio)
Ohio St.
U of Ohio
Akron
Cincy
Dayton
Toledo
Xavier
Youngstown St.

Now lets see, how do I pick which wagon to jump on here  :-?.....hhhhmmmmm. I got it! How about the best one? Yes!

Now, what college hoops team should I choose to love? hhmmmmm, how about Duke! They're always good!  yyyyyiippeeee!! Go team! Rah, rah, rah!!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



(this is way too easy)

"I think I see Columbus over that thar hill; or is it Durham?"
 

[aMD]

Actually I root for all those teams too.  My dad went to Miami of Ohio and I actually am a bigger MU fan than buckeye fan I just don't talk about them around here because no one gives a shit about the OU / MU rivalry game.

So why don't you jump off my ass and try to find a better way to express your anger that your teams suck you fucking loser.

[ycartrob]

lighten up Francis

(I will say this, we sAints have a good time, win , lose , or draw!)

[primushead]

[ycartrob]

I know, I know, I know, I know.....


sorry  :-X

[primushead]

Well...quite a few shakeups since posting last...

...UCLA went down to Texas at home (!)

Tennessee almost gets beat by Chattanooga, AND Memphis goes to overtime to barely beat USC.



But, Carolina is still holding it down with true road game wins at Kentucky and Ohio State AND a rout at Penn last night with Psycho T scoring 29 points.  I like where this is headed!!!