That little oil leak

TheBigChicken · May 10, 2010, 02:19 PM

Florida Gov Crist says prepare for the worst and pray for the best.....as much of a non FLA as I am this IS SAD SCARY SHITTY....Alaska is saying I TOLD YOU SO...All the animals and fish and everything.... :'( :'( I'm not going to demonize big oil. I DONT FUCKING HAVE TO !!!!! OVER 200 million gallons of crude oil is ALREADY leaked....when will you oil people QUIT FUCKING AMERICA !!!! When will enough be enough.. If I wre Crist I would be so FUCKING MAD AT THE PRESSER THAT SOMEONES FUCKING BALLS WOULD BE IN A JAR ON THE TABLE.....I just watched this store bought ASSHOLES presser and blah blah blah....one of his cronies actually cracked a joke,no one laughed, and he said he was just trying to lighten the mood. If Crist had half a nut in his sack he'd have fired that FUCKHEAD ON THE SPOT >:(

Sticky Icky Green Stuff · May 10, 2010, 02:32 PM

I'm not sure what to think about this. I've read little bits and pieces here and there but nothing I could call accurate. the numbers I read vary in each article it seems.

So the basic scenario is they have 3 leaks? 5,000 feet under the ocean and the fail safes failed?

It's hard to have any positive attitude towards these oil tycoons who are absolutely some of the most horrible people to exist. But at the same time our dependance on oil is insane. Almost everything we use is made from oil. Cars, Tires, Roads, Tupper wear, Shoes, etc. Oil makes almost every machine work, whether it be to lube it up sexy or give it power.

The bottom line is we do need oil as much as it blows. Alaska would only last the US 6months so that's bs. the ocean is the only place oil is left that won't cause a war.

Sucks the marine life is getting hit so hard.

BH · May 10, 2010, 03:08 PM

I love the solutions they come up with. It's like asking a 8th grade class what they would do.

1) Lets build a giant concrete hat, and just cover it up!

if that doesn't work.....

2) Lets build a smaller concrete hat and try that instead!

if that doesn't work.....

3) Let's fill up a hose with bits of tire and golf balls and shoot it into the hole and hope it plugs that sumbitch up! (I'm not kidding that's the next plan.)

if that doesn't work.....

4) Let's drill another FUCKING HOLE at an angle so the oil comes out of a different FUCKING HOLE and see if we put a cap on that pipe!

seriously? didn't anybody think this thru?

joey_rogo · May 10, 2010, 03:14 PM

the box solution is hilarious. professionals thought of this?? what happens when the box fills up...would the oil lift it up or would it just sit there and oil would slowly leak out around it forever? covering it doesn't solve the leak. and yeah, how is a smaller box supposed to do something that a bigger box couldn't do?

BH · May 10, 2010, 03:46 PM

The big box DID have a pipe fitted to it for pumping the oil to a tanker but still, it seemed pretty far fetched to me.

YouAre_GivenToFly · May 10, 2010, 03:55 PM

Its clear that BP is a British company. If this had been an American company the first 3 "solutions" surely would have involved the use of explosives.

Jon T. · May 10, 2010, 03:59 PM

There is a hose attached to the top of the dome and is supposed to siphon the oil to the ship. They do this at regular depths but at over a mile underwater it is completely unprecedented.

Basically, all we're hearing right now is speculation. Most experts aren't really saying what to expect because they have no idea - and that is scary.

I was at the beach yesterday and it was one of nicest days I have ever seen. Sugar white sand, crystal clear water, spanish mackeral skipping around and dolphin bobbing up and down in the distance. But, it was kind of depressing at the same time knowing what is looming out there.

Jon T. · May 10, 2010, 07:30 PM

Pensacola Beach, 5/9/10.

Sticky Icky Green Stuff · May 10, 2010, 08:50 PM

so I heard on npr on the way home that they fucked up majorly by removing the mud and replacing it with sea water before they plugged the bottom and top of the holes with cement.

apparently if they would have plugged the holes so to speak before they messed with the mud they might have been able to avoid this but they fucked themselves majorly by not taking the precaution. one of the bits they played was of a guy from the rig or something. He said it gave them problems from day one and that particular well "did not want to be drilled".

greed at it's finest I guess. plug that bitch up already.

Soulshine · May 10, 2010, 09:03 PM

.......is killing me inside a little bit everyday.

Paulie_Walnuts · May 11, 2010, 06:32 AM

QuoteFlorida Gov Crist says prepare for the worst and pray for the best.....as much of a non FLA as I am this IS SAD SCARY SHITTY....Alaska is saying I TOLD YOU SO...All the animals and fish and everything.... :'( :'( I'm not going to demonize big oil. I DONT FUCKING HAVE TO !!!!! OVER 200 million gallons of crude oil is ALREADY leaked....when will you oil people QUIT FUCKING AMERICA !!!! When will enough be enough.. If I wre Crist I would be so FUCKING MAD AT THE PRESSER THAT SOMEONES FUCKING BALLS WOULD BE IN A JAR ON THE TABLE.....I just watched this store bought ASSHOLES presser and blah blah blah....one of his cronies actually cracked a joke,no one laughed, and he said he was just trying to lighten the mood. If Crist had half a nut in his sack he'd have fired that FUCKHEAD ON THE SPOT >:(

Chickens are coming home to roost! Jump in your 7.0 litre SUV's America and load up on that cheap cheap gas!

el_chode · May 11, 2010, 09:20 AM

Here's my thought:

This is awful. There's no buts about it. Yes, we need oil. But it is a false dilemma to say that we need it so let's let them get it however they see best.

Calling something a failsafe is not a failsafe. The only true failsafe is having a plan B and C ready to roll.

What upsets me the most is not the price of gas or political fallout...as a tree-hugging hippie environmentalist when it comes to this shit, it's that when you undermine the ecosystem, everything else around it falls apart.

But as been pointed out, oil is part of a global market. Even if you don't import from the US or the US doesn't export it out, it still has an effect on the market. This affects everything from the price of your bacon since it's shipped via truck to the price of lightbulbs and anything involving plastics.

Weaning ourselves off of fossil powered vehicles is great, not because it will ever reduce the amount of reliance on oil, but because it will allow more of a resource to be devoted to innovation in plastics than simple combustion

BH · May 11, 2010, 09:34 AM

This car is the beginning of that change. Finally. The reason it's different is because someone finally came up with a mass production plan that makes the batteries at a cost the makes sense.

http://www.nissanusa.com/leaf-electric-car/index#/leaf-electric-car/index

YouAre_GivenToFly · May 11, 2010, 12:26 PM

QuoteThis car is the beginning of that change. Finally. The reason it's different is because someone finally came up with a mass production plan that makes the batteries at a cost the makes sense.

http://www.nissanusa.com/leaf-electric-car/index#/leaf-electric-car/index

If that is the future of cars, I better get my bike tuned up.

AMightyCaporal · May 11, 2010, 02:25 PM

the problem is they aren't making electric cars that look nice- they are making them look like shitty little shit shits. Audi is making an electric car, http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/01/audis-electric-car-gets-even-hotter/ , there is also an electric sports car that's by Tesla http://www.teslamotors.com/buy/buyshowroom.php ... but not everyone can afford those. We need an affordable car that looks good that also runs on electricity... how hard could it possibly be?

bowl of soup · May 11, 2010, 02:58 PM

QuotePensacola Beach, 5/9/10.

Brother, that just killed me. Pensacola Beach means more to me than any other place in the world and that picture just flooded me with memories.

It kind of feels like that book "On the Beach" we're just helplessly waiting for the end and trying to act normal.

capt. scotty · May 11, 2010, 03:31 PM

Quotethe problem is they aren't making electric cars that look nice- they are making them look like shitty little shit shits. Audi is making an electric car, http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/01/audis-electric-car-gets-even-hotter/ , there is also an electric sports car that's by Tesla http://www.teslamotors.com/buy/buyshowroom.php ... but not everyone can afford those. We need an affordable car that looks good that also runs on electricity... how hard could it possibly be?

That first Audi looks badass

But youre right on for the most part...The first time I saw a Smart Car I lost it and just thought WTF would buy this POS?!!

Love Dogg · May 11, 2010, 03:32 PM

Quotethe problem is they aren't making electric cars that look nice- they are making them look like shitty little shit shits. Audi is making an electric car, http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/01/audis-electric-car-gets-even-hotter/ , there is also an electric sports car that's by Tesla http://www.teslamotors.com/buy/buyshowroom.php ... but not everyone can afford those. We need an affordable car that looks good that also runs on electricity... how hard could it possibly be?

Watch this movie!
http://www.whokilledtheelectriccar.com/
We had it in our hands, but fucking dropped it. >:(

Quote.......is killing me inside a little bit everyday.

I feel the same way. This hasn't even really begun yet. And to think that it could take 10-12 years to get this right is scary. :'(

YouAre_GivenToFly · May 11, 2010, 03:41 PM

Quotethe problem is they aren't making electric cars that look nice- they are making them look like shitty little shit shits. Audi is making an electric car, http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/01/audis-electric-car-gets-even-hotter/ , there is also an electric sports car that's by Tesla http://www.teslamotors.com/buy/buyshowroom.php ... but not everyone can afford those. We need an affordable car that looks good that also runs on electricity... how hard could it possibly be?

I would have driven the EV1.

The Chevy Volt doesn't look too bad, especially considering the last decade or so of GM design.

The VW Up! concepts are good looking, but would probably fail here in the US because no one wants small cars.

It really is ridiculous what we consider "small" these days. I recently bought the 6th generation VW Golf. Its a 3-door hatch, and most people that see it note how small it is on the outside. I'm 6'1" and have plenty of room on the inside. This 6th generation is 20 inches longer, 7 inches wider, 4 inches taller, and 1500 pounds (nearly double!) heavier than its first generation. Just think of the fuel we could save if we could shed just 15-20% of every car's weight.

Sorry to turn this thread from one of environmental concern to one of auto design. :-/

YouAre_GivenToFly · May 11, 2010, 03:45 PM

Also, on the "Smart" brand of vehicles. The Smart fortwo gets absolutely terrible MPG (45 combined) considering its miniscule engine capacity and size. I can get similar MPG from a Civic Hybrid or a Jetta TDI and have more room, more fun, and not look like an eliteist d-bag driving down the road, not to mention saving a few thousand bucks.