Forecastle

[oistheone]

I saw that individual day tickets go on sale already this Friday.  Will they have the actual schedule out by then in addition to the lineup?

Apparently they are announcing the lineup with a day-by-day breakdown, Coachella-style.

[bold992006]

Petty definitely seems like wishful thinking, but I'm not ruling anything out at this point.

Do you guys think MMJ will be #1 billed? I was under the assumption that they would be, and I couldn't see Petty billed after them. Then again, home-show advantage can mean crazy things for lineup hierarchy.  ;D

from what i understand the headliners are supposed to be huge, like game changelingly huge.  i would not be surprised to see jacket as the 3rd billed headliner.

This is what Ive heard too, but I could see it saying My Morning Jacket presents... Or My Morning Jacket hosts... So billing them first, but also implying that doesn't nessecarily mean they're the biggest. There will definitely be at least one artist that's bigger than the jacket

I don't think this really matters.  There will be three headliners all billed equally.  If someone like Petty plays obviously they are huge but as far as billing goes I always see it as three headliners.

[bold992006]

i've only seen tom petty and his band perform on television.  yes, his songs are wonderful, but the live performance of said songs was like watching paint dry.  maybe it's better in person.

and i've never understood the allure of foo fighters, for opposite reasons.  on stage, they play like their pants are on fire, but most of the songs just don't hit home with me.

maybe if foo fighters played tom petty's songs.........

Going to have to respectfully disagree.  I've seen Petty live a bunch of times and they put on a hell of a show.  Mike Campbell is one of the most underrated guitar players out there and it is hard not to have a good time when thousands of people are singing every word to every song.  I really hope this is true.

btw the Foo's covered Petty at Hangout last year.

like i said, i've only seen them on TV, a fairly recent show at the university of florida.    i know he's no spring chicken, but it just didn't seem like much effort being put forth.   i grew up a huge who/pete townshend fan, amazed by the pure physicality of the live performance......another reason i took to MMJ so quickly. 

i'll withhold further judgement until i've actually seen petty in person.  it would be a huge get for the festival, hope it happens.

watching the Petty documentary was a game changer for me.   Some of their early performances were mind blowing and very physical (him getting torn up bu the crowd at a club show and popping back up to finish the song comes to mind)...but that being said I don't think that if a band is not jumping all around up on stage like MMJ/The Who it means they are not putting in effort.

Everyone has a different style.  There are a lot of bands who don't do a whole lot physically up on stage but they are some of my favorite bands.   I think as a unit there are not many bands as tight as Petty's band.  Also I think because he has had so many hits he kind of get overlooked as far as being able to jam.  They can really play.

I would highly recommend seeing them live...if they play Forecastle that would be huge.

[ALady]

I agree that they're a great bunch of musicians (Benmont Tench is a monster imo) but their live show can be very staged/choreographed.  I saw them play back to back nights once and the setlist was exactly the same,  the banter was exactly the same...really disappointing, a band of that caliber should be able to cut loose and mix it up a bit more imo.

Anyway.  They're probably not gonna play Forecastle  ;D

My buddy is saying Band of Horses and Clutch too, but I don't know how good his info is.

[Penny Lane]

I never thought twice about seeing Tom Petty, but when I finally saw him, it really opened my eyes, then like bold99 said, watching the Petty documentary (one of the best music docs IMO) changed things completely. A Tom Petty show is like a rite of passage, too. The Foo Fighters---a band I'd never seek out, but I know they'll always deliver. Tom Petty is in a whole other league.

[johnnYYac]

People keep referring to the Twitter accounts followed by @forecastle being hints to a lineup, so here are all the bands I recognized being followed by @forecastle...

Foo Fighters
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Muse
Spoon
Skillrex
Band of Horses
Atmosphere
Lotus
No Doubt
The Pass
Savoy
Preservation Hall Jazz Band
Wilco
Ben Sollee
Mumford and Sons
The Black Keys
Fleet Foxes
Radiohead
The Avett Brothers
Cheyenne Marie Mize
The Flaming Lips
Pretty Lights
STS9
Umphrey's McGee

I have no idea if any of it means anything significant, just sayin'... 

[oistheone]

People keep referring to the Twitter accounts followed by @forecastle being hints to a lineup, so here are all the bands I recognized being followed by @forecastle...

Foo Fighters
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Muse
Spoon
Skillrex
Band of Horses
Atmosphere
Lotus
No Doubt
The Pass
Savoy
Preservation Hall Jazz Band
Wilco
Ben Sollee
Mumford and Sons
The Black Keys
Fleet Foxes
Radiohead
The Avett Brothers
Cheyenne Marie Mize
The Flaming Lips
Pretty Lights
STS9
Umphrey's McGee

I have no idea if any of it means anything significant, just sayin'...

Nice work! Crossing out Mumford and Sons and the Lips because of other commitments, and Radiohead because c'mon, I don't think they'll duplicate Roo's top headliner. I'm sure others could be taken out as well.  But with a few logical eliminations, you can start to see where they might be going with this lineup. And it looks so damn tasty.

Or maybe I'm just way too into this whole "treasure hunt" thing.

[Luna Moth]

Definitely could use some more sts9. Big fan of the older chiller spacier stuff, new stuff is good too just alot more attitude.

[e_wind]

Keep in mind that many of those bands  played in 2010

[rmpotsy]

Definitely could use some more sts9. Big fan of the older chiller spacier stuff, new stuff is good too just alot more attitude.

you can cross off rhcp, they are playing the yum here in june.

[Penny Lane]

Definitely could use some more sts9. Big fan of the older chiller spacier stuff, new stuff is good too just alot more attitude.

you can cross off rhcp, they are playing the yum here in june.

YAY!

[bold992006]

I agree that they're a great bunch of musicians (Benmont Tench is a monster imo) but their live show can be very staged/choreographed.  I saw them play back to back nights once and the setlist was exactly the same,  the banter was exactly the same...really disappointing, a band of that caliber should be able to cut loose and mix it up a bit more imo.

Anyway.  They're probably not gonna play Forecastle  ;D

My buddy is saying Band of Horses and Clutch too, but I don't know how good his info is.

Yes I agree that they tend to play similar sets..a lot of older bands tend to do this...but it never really takes away from the performance for me. 

I do wish they played more of their lesser known songs like Shadow Of Doubt and Spike...they have some great ones.

I just have so much respect for Petty...like Penny said the documentary is a must see..completely turned me into a way bigger fan than I was.

[bold992006]

Keep in mind that many of those bands  played in 2010

Yeah I'm going to cross off The Black Keys but if they are on the lineup I will do flips.

[Shug]

I've been seeing Petty live since 1986 and I've seen him so many times doing basically the same show night after night tour after tour, its really gotten stale for me.  I'm a huge fan and I completely agree the Heartbreakers are one of the greatest rock bands of all time, not for overhwhelmingly passionate and physical rocking out, but for the way they play as an ensemble, super tight and super economical (most of the time).  They are a song band, not a jam band.  Their mastery of the 3 minute popular rock 'n' roll song is unrivaled.

But I've always said if they'd just mix up their setlists like the Grateful Dead or The Black Crowes,  they'd be even more huge.  They'd have legions of fans who'd see them night after night after night.  I really think they feel they have to play every hit every night so that no casual attendee goes home disappointed.  In my opinion, its a mistake from the artistic perspective, but it's probably made them more money in the long run.  I have a hard time respecting that decision, but who am I to say?

I also agree about the documentary Runnin' Down A Dream being a great way to really gain an appreciation for this band.  They have been uncompromising, determined and honestly trying to treat their fans and the music right for decades and that is a rare quality in rock. 

But if you REALLY wanna understand why the Heartbreakers have a legitimate claim to the title The World's Greatest Rock 'n' Roll Band, track down the last night of their 20-night run at the Fillmore in San Francisco (yes, they played 20 nights in a row) in 1997.  It was a three and a half hour show and half of it was covers, just freight-train powerful rock 'n' roll.  It was radio broadcast and shouldn't be that hard to find on etree or dime or whatever.  They don't do that any more, but Petty is still well worth seeing live at least once.  Like someone said, its all about the super fun sing-alongs and getting lost in the joy of hearing hit after hit after hit (as long as your aren't already sick of them).  Just don't go see him twice on the same tour expecting any variation at all.

[el_chode]

Tom Petty was great at Bonnaroo. I had a nice time sitting at my campsite, drinking heavily, and listening from afar. My campsite was uniquely situated for this though. I wish I would have done the same for Radiohead as their stage presence bored me just the same.

[rmpotsy]

Definitely could use some more sts9. Big fan of the older chiller spacier stuff, new stuff is good too just alot more attitude.

you can cross off rhcp, they are playing the yum here in june.

YAY!

QUADRUPLE YAY!!!

one band not on or anywhere near my bucket list.  maybe mothers milk-blood sugar era, but everything after has been just garbage as far as im concerned.

[rmpotsy]

I wish I would have done the same for Radiohead as their stage presence bored me just the same.

really?  i saw radiohead in '08 at deer creek in indy and i thought their stage show and especially their light show was one of the best i have ever seen.  really a fantastic show and we were about a 1/2 mile away.

[bold992006]

I've been seeing Petty live since 1986 and I've seen him so many times doing basically the same show night after night tour after tour, its really gotten stale for me.  I'm a huge fan and I completely agree the Heartbreakers are one of the greatest rock bands of all time, not for overhwhelmingly passionate and physical rocking out, but for the way they play as an ensemble, super tight and super economical (most of the time).  They are a song band, not a jam band.  Their mastery of the 3 minute popular rock 'n' roll song is unrivaled.

But I've always said if they'd just mix up their setlists like the Grateful Dead or The Black Crowes,  they'd be even more huge.  They'd have legions of fans who'd see them night after night after night.  I really think they feel they have to play every hit every night so that no casual attendee goes home disappointed.  In my opinion, its a mistake from the artistic perspective, but it's probably made them more money in the long run.  I have a hard time respecting that decision, but who am I to say?

I also agree about the documentary Runnin' Down A Dream being a great way to really gain an appreciation for this band.  They have been uncompromising, determined and honestly trying to treat their fans and the music right for decades and that is a rare quality in rock. 

But if you REALLY wanna understand why the Heartbreakers have a legitimate claim to the title The World's Greatest Rock 'n' Roll Band, track down the last night of their 20-night run at the Fillmore in San Francisco (yes, they played 20 nights in a row) in 1997.  It was a three and a half hour show and half of it was covers, just freight-train powerful rock 'n' roll.  It was radio broadcast and shouldn't be that hard to find on etree or dime or whatever.  They don't do that any more, but Petty is still well worth seeing live at least once.  Like someone said, its all about the super fun sing-alongs and getting lost in the joy of hearing hit after hit after hit (as long as your aren't already sick of them).  Just don't go see him twice on the same tour expecting any variation at all.

I think you can look at it a few different ways.  I'm a believer that Petty in a way has hurt himself because he has written sooooo many great songs.   I mean seriously the guy has written so many hits It would be hard for them not to play some of them at his shows so the set is dominated by those.

I really think these guys could jam and play different sets each night but they just are not that type of band.   I love the Dead but there are also nights when I don't want to hear a lot of songs so I guess you can look at it both ways.

I just think Petty has so many good non-hit songs and they don't get played enough...but either way I really love seeing him live.  I probably wouldn't go see him back to back nights though since the set is the same.

I kind of feel the same way about MMJ.  I mean they really play the same songs for the most part and it shocks me since they did T5 and played every song so they are more than capable of mixing it up more but they don't.

I think Wilco is the perfect example...they mix it really well...not to the point where their sets are completely different but they play enough new songs to see them back to back  nights.

[el_chode]

I wish I would have done the same for Radiohead as their stage presence bored me just the same.

really?  i saw radiohead in '08 at deer creek in indy and i thought their stage show and especially their light show was one of the best i have ever seen.  really a fantastic show and we were about a 1/2 mile away.

Not sure if you're familiar with 'Roos setup, but our campsite was between Shakedown and the food vendors, basically the first intersection as you climb the hill away from the stage. Radiohead played well, but I felt they just stood there for the most part. Petty also was made for outdoor drinking on a hot summer night, so that's why it worked.

It should be mentioned I'm also not a huge Radiohead fan. That's not to say I don't like the music. I just don't get an erection at the mere mention of Thom Yorke.

[BigHerm]

This is the last clue  ???

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