2012-2013 College Basketball

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iLikeBeer

Quote from: capt. scotty on Feb 27, 2013, 12:12 PM
So Gonzaga may very well be #1 come next week. I havent seen them play this year, are they actually legit?!

They're a good team, but I don't think they are #1 good.  I'd love to see what their record would be in a REAL conference.  Hell, Illinois is in the middle of the pack in the B1G and the Illini beat them on their home floor! 

A team with a SOS out of the top 50 should not be a #1 seed in the NCAA Tournament...

Ruckus

Quote from: iLikeBeer on Feb 27, 2013, 12:45 PM
Quote from: capt. scotty on Feb 27, 2013, 12:12 PM
So Gonzaga may very well be #1 come next week. I havent seen them play this year, are they actually legit?!

They're a good team, but I don't think they are #1 good.  I'd love to see what their record would be in a REAL conference.  Hell, Illinois is in the middle of the pack in the B1G and the Illini beat them on their home floor! 

A team with a SOS out of the top 50 should not be a #1 seed in the NCAA Tournament...
I think they are very good to great.  They have legitimate skilled size in Olynyk, Harris can do it all, and Pangos has unlimited range.  We played exceptionally well that game to pull it off in Spokane.  That Olynyck can really play!  However I do agree that their overall resume is very underwhelming.  Hopefully some more teams will be willing to schedule the Zags.  No one wants to travel there in non conference so its tough to blame them. 

Every top team has a loss against a middle of the pack conference team but you're right that the home loss was big.

Obnoxious fact of the day.  The only two teams in the country to beat both the current #1 and #2 are Butler and Illinois.  Illinois also beat Butler on a neutral floor by 16.
Can You Put Your Soft Helmet On My Head

iLikeBeer

Quote from: Ruckus on Feb 27, 2013, 02:25 PM
Every top team has a loss against a middle of the pack conference team but you're right that the home loss was big.

I wouldn't consider any of Michigan's losses to be against a middle of the pack conference teams.  All 4 of Michigan's losses are to teams currently ranked in the top 17 in the nation with 2 of their 4 losses to top 10 teams.   And all of their losses were on the road.  I don't think another team in the country can boast that kind of resume from a quality of losses standpoint...

BH

Quote from: iLikeBeer on Feb 27, 2013, 05:59 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Feb 27, 2013, 02:25 PM
Every top team has a loss against a middle of the pack conference team but you're right that the home loss was big.

I wouldn't consider any of Michigan's losses to be against a middle of the pack conference teams.  All 4 of Michigan's losses are to teams currently ranked in the top 17 in the nation with 2 of their 4 losses to top 10 teams.   And all of their losses were on the road.  I don't think another team in the country can boast that kind of resume from a quality of losses standpoint...

Looks like someone spoke too soon.
I'm digging, digging deep in myself, but who needs a shovel when you have a little boy like mine.

capt. scotty

Not like I care about PSU basketball because somehow we suck in this sport but so glad it was Michigan. It would put a smile on my face if we lose every other BIG 10 game and the only win is Michigan. I hope it drops them to a 3 seed or something!

:grin: :grin: :grin:
The thing is, Bob, it's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care. - Peter Gibbons

Ruckus

Quote from: iLikeBeer on Feb 27, 2013, 05:59 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Feb 27, 2013, 02:25 PM
Every top team has a loss against a middle of the pack conference team but you're right that the home loss was big.

I wouldn't consider any of Michigan's losses to be against a middle of the pack conference teams.  All 4 of Michigan's losses are to teams currently ranked in the top 17 in the nation with 2 of their 4 losses to top 10 teams.   And all of their losses were on the road.  I don't think another team in the country can boast that kind of resume from a quality of losses standpoint...
PETE WEBER SUCK IT CROTCH CHOP PIMP WALK
Can You Put Your Soft Helmet On My Head

iLikeBeer

Quote from: BH on Feb 27, 2013, 08:41 PM
Quote from: iLikeBeer on Feb 27, 2013, 05:59 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Feb 27, 2013, 02:25 PM
Every top team has a loss against a middle of the pack conference team but you're right that the home loss was big.

I wouldn't consider any of Michigan's losses to be against a middle of the pack conference teams.  All 4 of Michigan's losses are to teams currently ranked in the top 17 in the nation with 2 of their 4 losses to top 10 teams.   And all of their losses were on the road.  I don't think another team in the country can boast that kind of resume from a quality of losses standpoint...

Looks like someone spoke too soon.

As I'm removing my foot from my mouth today, I thought I would help myself to a healthy portion of:



Heard it tastes like chicken???

Damn does that piss me off?!  IU puts the B1G championship back on the table and Michigan goes and blows a 15 point lead with 8 minutes to go in the game?  They don't deserve a #1 seed at this point if you ask me...  :angry:

YimYodd

Well done iLB
PSU has played hard all season and I felt they would get a W at some
Point.  After playing UM tough at AA last week , last nites result didn't surprise me much.
My heart pumps away for your loving touch, My Sweet Juls. You know I never, I Never Could Get Enough

iLikeBeer

Well, it isn't quite March yet, but this week has been nothing short of madness wrt top ranked teams in the country.  Duke fell tonight to UVA to add to the carnage of the week.

So far this week the casualties include #1 IU, #3 Duke, #4 Michigan and #8 UF.  And #6 KU was the beneficiary of a bs non-charging call from joining that list.

Gonzaga is on the road tonight as I type this post at BYU and I'm not staying up to watch it, but it's only a 2 point game as I type this so who knows if Gonzaga will add to the carnage come March 1st...  :cheesy:

I think I might just ask my 3 girls (9 year old twins and a 7 year old) to help me fill out my brackets this year or I might just go with the old staple of flipping a coin which might not be a bad option either...   :beer:

YimYodd

I'm looking for IU to bounce back at home tonite after Tuesdays asswhuppin at the Barn. Zeller , in particular , has had big games after each L this season.
Will be rooting for UM  tomorrow vs. Sparty, then for Sparty next week vs. UW and for whoever is playing Purdouche.
Let the Madness begin! :beer:

Edit - Crap!, I see Purdouche is playing UW tomorrow.......all I can say is I'm not rooting for the Badgers.
My heart pumps away for your loving touch, My Sweet Juls. You know I never, I Never Could Get Enough

Crispy

God, I love beating Texas. I want to have a game of Spades with Rick Barnes and Mack Brown and beat their ass in that. Who's my partner?
"...it's gonna be great -- I mean me coming back with the band and playing all those hits again"

BH

Quote from: Crispy on Mar 02, 2013, 08:51 PM
God, I love beating Texas. I want to have a game of Spades with Rick Barnes and Mack Brown and beat their ass in that. Who's my partner?

I'm digging, digging deep in myself, but who needs a shovel when you have a little boy like mine.

capt. scotty

So Indiana being a 1 seed has to be in question now, right? I think a win @ Michigan this weekend would go a long way in them staying there, but a week ago they were considered overall #1. Im not even sure Id make them a 1 seed at this point.

Depending on how the rest of the season and conference tournaments go, I think any team in the Top 8 (Zags, Indiana, Duke, Michigan, Kansas, Hoyas, LVille, Miami) has the opportunity to still be a 1 seed, or lose that chance. Maybe they even consider Sparty if they win out. Right now, Id probably go with Zags, Duke with a healthy Kelly, Kansas, and Wolverines.

I did see the 2nd half of the Zags-BYU game last week. Im not sure what to make of them. Olynyk is quite impressive and a defensive challenge, I remember Harris being their star in previous years so their frontcourt and rebounding is probably a plus for them vs most teams. I know their shooting was uncharacteristically bad that night, but Im not sold on their guards overall. They are certainly deserving of a 1 seed based on resume though.
The thing is, Bob, it's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care. - Peter Gibbons

YimYodd

Hard to believe today pretty  much ends an exiting regular season of NCAA BB (especially in B1G country).
Another fun Saturday full of buzzer beaters and ranked teams going down.
Somethings gotta give today in Ann Arbor. UM hasn't lost at home all season & IU hasn't lost back-to-back games all season.
Hoping for Zeller & Oladipo, among others, to be at their seasons' best and bring home IUs' 1st outright B1G title in 20 years! To do so they need to limit turnovers & get to the FT line.
I like that they have several players to try to contain Burke - Ferrell will start out on him and Oladipo, Sheehey & Abell will get their chances too.
If they let him get into the lane, and/or allow him to pass the rock to open spot-up shooters, getting a W will be difficult.
GO BIG RED :beer:
My heart pumps away for your loving touch, My Sweet Juls. You know I never, I Never Could Get Enough

iLikeBeer

Hey YimYod, your welcome...  :rolleyes:

Oh, and congrats on the outright B1G Title, but someone needs to teach your coach how to win with class:

http://michigan.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1481914&PT=4&PR=2

Stay classy Crean... :rolleyes:

wonderfulman

Quote from: iLikeBeer on Mar 11, 2013, 09:08 AM
Hey YimYod, your welcome...  :rolleyes:

Oh, and congrats on the outright B1G Title, but someone needs to teach your coach how to win with class:

http://michigan.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1481914&PT=4&PR=2

Stay classy Crean... :rolleyes:

I saw the whole Crean thing and think he's pretty stupid. Instead of talking trash to Jeff Meyer, he should be thanking him. If Sampson was never fired, Crean would have never gotten that job.

The one article that was brought to my attention is this one. Not quite sure I understand this policy, but please read away.
http://www.insidethehall.com/2013/03/10/iu-student-told-to-wear-michigan-shirt-or-leave/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+insidethehall+%28Inside+the+Hall+%7C+An+Indiana+Hoosiers+basketball+blog%29

YimYodd

Quote from: iLikeBeer on Mar 11, 2013, 09:08 AM
Hey YimYod, your welcome...  :rolleyes:

Oh, and congrats on the outright B1G Title, but someone needs to teach your coach how to win with class.


iLB, :beer:
In addition to your plate of crow, seems like you've also consumed a big bowl of sour grapes.    :drum:
I'm welcome?  You should be thanking the refs for the game even being close at the end.
9 FT attempts for IU? What a joke. :grin:
Don't  :cry: about the last possession either. IU missed 13 shots at the rim in addition to 4 missed tip-ins thru out the game(40 minutes, not 39:08).
IU also missed the front end of 3 one&ones.
I figured the end of game pressure might get to the inexperienced Robinson, Hardaway Jr.s' miss was expected given his history in big games and Burke may just have been worn down from a games worth of Oladipo & company.
And to add to my pre-game post listing Hoosier defenders on Burke....Zeller can guard him too. :thumbsup: Pretty weak attempt in the lane at the end.

Tell your coach that the little painted blocks at the edge of the lane are for his players to line up for rebounds, especially for a team that has missed 30% of FTs for the season. :rolleyes:
Good luck vs. PSU :cheesy: :tongue:
My heart pumps away for your loving touch, My Sweet Juls. You know I never, I Never Could Get Enough

iLikeBeer

Quote from: YimYodd on Mar 13, 2013, 07:21 PM
Quote from: iLikeBeer on Mar 11, 2013, 09:08 AM
Hey YimYod, your welcome...  :rolleyes:

Oh, and congrats on the outright B1G Title, but someone needs to teach your coach how to win with class.


iLB, :beer:
In addition to your plate of crow, seems like you've also consumed a big bowl of sour grapes.    :drum:
I'm welcome?  You should be thanking the refs for the game even being close at the end.
9 FT attempts for IU? What a joke. :grin:
Don't  :cry: about the last possession either. IU missed 13 shots at the rim in addition to 4 missed tip-ins thru out the game(40 minutes, not 39:08).
IU also missed the front end of 3 one&ones.
I figured the end of game pressure might get to the inexperienced Robinson, Hardaway Jr.s' miss was expected given his history in big games and Burke may just have been worn down from a games worth of Oladipo & company.
And to add to my pre-game post listing Hoosier defenders on Burke....Zeller can guard him too. :thumbsup: Pretty weak attempt in the lane at the end.

Tell your coach that the little painted blocks at the edge of the lane are for his players to line up for rebounds, especially for a team that has missed 30% of FTs for the season. :rolleyes:
Good luck vs. PSU :cheesy: :tongue:

Sour grapes?  Hardly...  Michigan gave that game away by blowing a 6 point lead in the last minute because they couldn't make ft's.  If that's sour grapes, I guess I'm guilty?

And you're complaing about the officiating?  Did you not win the game?  We had 13 ft attempts (with 4 coming in the final minute) so its not like there was some HUGE discrepancy there.  Hell, we weren't even in the bonus late in the 2nd half as your team had to foul multiple times just to get us into the bonus. This is what you get in a physical conference like the B1G...

Oh, and we should be thanking the refs?  LOL.  Guess you missed the no call on the blatant intentional foul Watford committed on Robinson's uncontested layup???  Even your own IU honk Dan Dakic tweeted during the game that was a bad no call!  Btw, does Zeller or Crean teach acting classes because that flop he made was award worthy.  Mabye this is what Zeller was truly going for?



And what, no comments on your coach's classless behavior after the game?  Although its not all that surprising that a guy who has a hard time losing with class also has a hard time winning with class.   :rolleyes:

ericm

Louisville is looking mighty tough. If they play like they did last night vs Nova, they're going to be awfully tough to beat, IMO. They certainly looked like a #1 seed, and with the experience of last year, I'm liking their chances to cut down the nets in Atlanta.

Of course it's pretty wide open this year, and any number of teams could take it all, but Pittino and the Cardinals are my pick right now.
"Where's Jim going?"

capt. scotty

Quote from: ericm on Mar 15, 2013, 05:19 PM
Louisville is looking mighty tough. If they play like they did last night vs Nova, they're going to be awfully tough to beat, IMO. They certainly looked like a #1 seed, and with the experience of last year, I'm liking their chances to cut down the nets in Atlanta.

Of course it's pretty wide open this year, and any number of teams could take it all, but Pittino and the Cardinals are my pick right now.

I think the Big Easy is sort of down this year. Wouldnt be surprised if they have no teams still in it past the Sweet 16.

Michigan lost today. Theyre 9-7 in their last 16. Love Burke, but sounds like a 3 seed to me
The thing is, Bob, it's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care. - Peter Gibbons