OBH2 Schedule

[mahg33ta]

I'm not going, so not sure why I'm even wading into this, but I wanted to add that when I saw the schedule, my first reaction was "weak that they are only playing 2 hours each night".   

[rincon2]

I'm not going, so not sure why I'm even wading into this, but I wanted to add that when I saw the schedule, my first reaction was "weak that they are only playing 2 hours each night".

Shorter set list, and 30-40% bigger crowd. This sure makes me glad I went to OBH1. Would still go to this if logistics allowed.

[brn2plybal]

Didn't go to OBH1, not going to OBH2 but am a big music/MMJ fan, so I'll give some of my views:

I would look for different things this year.  They don't want to get trapped into a "They did it last 2 years" thing for next year.

They might do a surprise set in the middle of the day.  Or maybe just Jim playing a few songs and seeing if people show up and just winging it.

I would absolutely expect a complete new album set.  I'd also expect some deeper cuts in that 2nd set/part of that show. 

Maybe a covers set late night, again, surprise set?

I wanted to go this year, the lineup is really appealing to me.  Maybe next year...

[Stevie]

Or maybe just Jim playing a few songs and seeing if people show up and just winging it.

I'm putting my bet on, yes, people would show up 

I do hope you're right, though.

[dontgetupset]

When I made a "big deal" over the relative shortness of both long sets and surprises last year I felt that it was my legitimate right to do so as a non-attendee because I was making it clear that it was just an opinion based on the facts laid out after OBH1 had concluded.

In this situation if I was going (which I'm not) I would be telling myself to ignore this schedule and assume there will be at least 2 hours more of MMJ music whether in the form of 3 extra sets or just 40 minutes more per show etc... There's really no reason not to do this as nobody has work to get to the next day and there's no urban curfew that has to be kept.

That being said, if I was an attendee and did not get those extra hours I would be PISDSED. Nay, SUPER PISSED. I made reference to Pearl Jam last time around and since they had 2 crazy shows in the last 72 hours I'll make reference here to them again: http://www.jambands.com/news/2014/10/20/pearl-jam-cover-the-who-with-rick-nielsen-deliver-complete-performance-of-yield-in-milwaukee/ . In 2  3 hour plus shows (in the middle of non-sexy parts of the country at that (no offense (I'm from there))) they played Yield and No Code in their entirety. Their fans were expecting X and they delivered X+Y.

I expect the boys to follow this model and blow the OBH2 crowd away with multiple bust-outs and surprises but if for whatever reason they don't then I can see more fuel being added to this thread's (very small) fire.

[e_wind]

I'm not going this year, but the schedule is really weak. I don't like the idea that there are enough bands that they need a schedule. I don't like that the other bands have at least 1.5 hours. Thats too long. This is supposed to be MMJ fest, and MMJ is only playing about 1/5 of the music. And lets be honest, that resort isn't "paradise", as someone referred to it earlier. My opinions might change based on an surprises that happen and/or the set lists, but right now I'm not bummed about missing this year at all. I spent almost 3000$ last year when all was said and done, and that was for the cheapest room. Thats way too much money unless you walk out thinking you saw the best shows you've ever seen.

[BH]

[gluvmiller]

I guess I'm really lucky cause I LOVED this year and couldn't be more excited about this next year. Worth every penny! In fact this year will be even better because of all of the WONDERFUL friends I made that I will ge to see again as well as more added to the list that didn't make it to round one. Not that my opinion has the weight of some of yours because I haven't been around here as long, but I have certain expectations in changes in the set lists as these will really be consecutive shows from OBH1 to OBH2.

[Crispy]

So many bands with "D"s in their name!

[APR]

I'm not going, so not sure why I'm even wading into this, but I wanted to add that when I saw the schedule, my first reaction was "weak that they are only playing 2 hours each night".

I'm giving it a 5% chance that you're in.

They gotta bring it after not playing a whole year.  And no offense to the Biz Markie fans, if MMJ sets are kept to the schedule and that last show isn't a crazy long one (like past 'Roos or Red Rocks 2012), then I'll be a little disappointed.  Sure, it's going to be awesome as it always is seeing MMJ in any venue.  And the vacation aspect in a beautiful place is huge.  But if there are no surprises like some suggested, then it might be hard to be stoked like I am for OBH2 if there is an OBH3 to book next summer.

Finally, in my opinion, 1.5 hours is too long for everyone except the War on Drugs because those guys are just awesome.

[MMJCOBRA]

They will stick to the set times.  I heard that one last year (right scosby?).  Again, it will be awesome indeed but I think it's easier for those not going to say "quit your whining".  Plopping down $3-4K in real terms, not in the abstract, will raise your expectations (sad, but true)

That said, you fine peeps will hear not another negative word from me!  The resort is very nice. The food is great for the most part and there will not be a better concert setting to see the boys throw down.  The temperature will be perfect, the wind will be blowin', the PHJB will be rockin', and there will be room to move, dance and rock out all the way to the rail. All while having enormous bars and grazing munchy tables just a couple hundred yards away in any direction.  Like I said, I'm done with the bitchin, hopefully MMJ will add in their own accoustic set, but if not, it will STILL be one of the best times of my life.

Now, if we can only get Bobby Weir back on the beach....

[rincon2]

They will stick to the set times.  I heard that one last year (right scosby?).  Again, it will be awesome indeed but I think it's easier for those not going to say "quit your whining".  Plopping down $3-4K in real terms, not in the abstract, will raise your expectations (sad, but true)

That said, you fine peeps will hear not another negative word from me!  The resort is very nice. The food is great for the most part and there will not be a better concert setting to see the boys throw down.  The temperature will be perfect, the wind will be blowin', the PHJB will be rockin', and there will be room to move, dance and rock out all the way to the rail. All while having enormous bars and grazing munchy tables just a couple hundred yards away in any direction.  Like I said, I'm done with the bitchin, hopefully MMJ will add in their own accoustic set, but if not, it will STILL be one of the best times of my life.

Now, if we can only get Bobby Weir back on the beach....

If only there was a beach.

[SaraBananaBear]

I will never not want more MMJ, but I'll also always be grateful for every second of music I get.

[Derek713]

I will never not want more MMJ, but I'll also always be grateful for every second of music I get.

Well said!   

[BH]

So I'm all in right now at $2000 for flight, room, taxes, insurance and shuttle.   Are there other costs I have not discovered yet?

[Bulldog]

Other than tips not really....

If your doing excursions or anything then there are charge for that. And make sure at check out you have the tax for the "points" u use, but for the most part you got it covered.

[sherpahigh]

I'm coming from Canada and they've never been near here so this will actually be my first MMJ show. I'm going with my wife who's a casual fan of theirs and probably more familiar with Dr. Dog, Dawes and War on Drugs than MMJ really. She's coming more just for the escape from the snow drift and a get away from the kids for a few days. I'm a big fan of MMJ and am definitely stoked to be getting to see them finally but I'm almost just as excited for the WoD, Dr.Dog and Dawes sets so on the whole, I'm very pleased with the schedule.

Looking forward to it!

[APR]

I will never not want more MMJ, but I'll also always be grateful for every second of music I get.

Exactly!

[JTG1975]

What if he simple explanation is Jim said "hey guys, 7.5 hours over 4 nights took it's toll on my voice last year. If you listen, you can hear it. Maybe we scale it back just a little. I don't want to deliver a bad night"


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[Stevie]

that certainly seems like a realistic explanation.  however he did do Port Chester and the Wiltern three consecutive nights with no break and I do believe the sets or somewhere around 2 hours and 20 minutes every night.  with that being said both of those shows came in the midst of a run so maybe his cords were a bit more used to the wear and tear at that point.  either way as one of the people that voiced displeasure for the current schedule I'm already over it and looking forward to the experience 100%.  and I do like the supporting bands a bit more this year, especially the war on drugs and the fact that we get an acoustic Band of Horses set.