'At Dawn' flawed masterpiece..

[fortbethel]

I love MMJ but I have 2 b honest. AD just doesn't flow like ISM it's follow up. What songs would u take off. What would u put on? Me.. A 3 minute version of, 'Cobra' & cut Strangulation.

[vespachick]

[red]

cut strangulation.

CRAZY TALK!!!

[fortbethel]

Oh COME ON! IT could've been stronger

[Jellyfish]

Lemme say I luv AD as it is but if I COULD take one song of it would be Honest Man and add it to ISM.I just think it messes up the flow of the album.IMO.I still like the song.

[Fee71]

STRANGULATION?????   WHAT?????

That -1 for you in my book! :'(

[EAZYE]

never thought i would see at dawn and flawed used in the same sentence :-?

[Kory]

put on some quality headphones, crank the volume. Write back later and tell me you think the album needs to have strangulation removed. Strangulation is perfect right where it is.

We're all entitled to opinions though...

[Sleazy Rider]

The only thing I would change is how the audience look on the cover. They bother me.
As far as cutting, maybe my wrists if some people had their way with the album.

[knotcameloose]

I love MMJ but I have 2 b honest. AD just doesn't flow like ISM it's follow up. What songs would u take off. What would u put on? Me.. A 3 minute version of, 'Cobra' & cut Strangulation.

I think it does flow though...you just need patience.  It's built in to "At Dawn" - it takes a minute to get going, but then you're good.
I actually think ISM is too "top heavy" all the rockers at the front, and then the sleepers at the end.  I think At Dawn is much more balanced, and the tracks segue into each other a little better.

I could be convinced, song for song, ISM is better, but I think At Dawn is optimal as a whole.  If you're going to sit down for an hour and listen to the whole thing front to back, At Dawn is the best.

[Jernigan]

I think At Dawn is beautiful the way it is.

[ManNamedTruth]

Lemme say I luv AD as it is but if I COULD take one song of it would be Honest Man and add it to ISM.I just think it messes up the flow of the album.IMO.I still like the song.

Fuck that, the album would be toooo mellow without a few rockers.

It's quite fine the way it is.

[fortbethel]

I must disagree. I feel a 1/4 of AD isn't up to par. I'm just wondering what would make it PERFECT! Cobra at 5 min. would've been a GREAT song on AD

[BH]

I must disagree. I feel a 1/4 of AD isn't up to par. I'm just wondering what would make it PERFECT! Cobra at 5 min. would've been a GREAT song on AD

I don't understand why you think Cobra would be a good fit for At Dawn?  Unless your talking about the last five minutes with the Banjo.

And if "a 1/4 of AD isn't up to par", that means you think 3 or 4 songs are not any good.  Please let me know which songs you don't like besides Strangulation.

Have you seen Strangulation live on the Acoustic Chorale DVD?  I think that might change your mind about the song.

[ycartrob]

A 3 minute version of Cobra instead of Strangulation? I guess you're saying Cobra is flawed too?

This really isn't about At Dawn being flawed (IMO it isn't) as much as it is wanting to chop songs up for the liking.

The statement: A 3 minute version of, 'Cobra' & cut Strangulation is flawed. Me, personally, I wouldn't have said anything...

[.Walt]

when i first read this thread before anyone replied, i knew whoever wrote this was going to hear it. i really thought it took some balls to write that here. even though, i disagree. one, i enjoy strangulation and two,  just 5 mins of cobra, isn't cobra.

[fortbethel]

It Smashes Down, Xmas Curtain, Phone Went West, Strangulation. I really would rehash AT if it were mine. If I ever meet Jim again I will tell him so. I've bought & given away 10 copies of ISM. I support the band. I just really believe these 4 songs tank AT. Flog me now.

[knotcameloose]

It Smashes Down, Xmas Curtain, Phone Went West, Strangulation. I really would rehash AT if it were mine. If I ever meet Jim again I will tell him so. I've bought & given away 10 copies of ISM. I support the band. I just really believe these 4 songs tank AT. Flog me now.

If that's your opinion, that's your opinion.
:)

I can see why folks would sour on Smashes...but I love waiting for the ending, and how it changes, Jim taking those vocals way up there...it's fun.

[ycartrob]

It Smashes Down, Xmas Curtain, Phone Went West, Strangulation. I really would rehash AT if it were mine. If I ever meet Jim again I will tell him so.

And there's a good reason "it isn't yours".

I swear, people who feel they have to tell an artist what they should have done differently make me want to take a hostage. Just listen or not, but to pine for correcting an artist's expression is monkey paste.

[fortbethel]

monkey paste? on dear... *shrug*

I probably won't tell Jim. I know our paths will cross again but until then I'll only play the songs I like. 'The Jacket' can kick when they're selective with their song choices. But when, 'Phone out west' gets played I head 4 the bar.

My AD rehash idea:

Society often forgives the criminal it never forgives the dreamer.