CHANGE UP YOUR SET LISTS!!!!!

[dhollensbe]

.......if you were REALLY listening, like say you only download boots religiously, then you would notice the subtle differences in every show...

That's a no-shitter.  ;)

Atlanta quickly comes to mind, couldn't stop listening to that show this weekend.  By far the tightest no nonsense show of the tour...imo  :P

That is also a no-shitter.  ;)

No Shit? ;)

[mjkoehler]

The next show I go to I'm bringing a sign that says PLAY WHATEVER YOU WANT

What, no PLAY SOME SKYNARD?

[Salacious D]

The next show I go to I'm bringing a sign that says PLAY WHATEVER YOU WANT

What, no PLAY SOME SKYNARD?

I think that falls under "Play Whatever You Want."
;)

[pawpaw]

I wonder how we'd all react to the shows and the band in general if there was no forum, or internet. What if there was no way for us to access setlists and compare what was played, where, and for how long? Modern communications do seem to take away a lot of anticipation, or at least create a much less mysterious and magical kind.

[megalicious]

maybe it's just me, but mmj songs never get old. i don't feel like they OWE me anything, so i don't see the point in bitching about hearing the same song more than once. i've been to back-to-back shows and have heard the songs repeated, but i was EXCITED to hear them, because they all mean something to me.

come to think of it... i don't really think about the actual setlist until the show is over, as i am too busy rocking out.
:D

[Love Dogg]

I mean Fuck, carl knew how to play every song BEFORE he joined the band.  

I think that is one of the issues.  Car does NOT know all of the songs...for example, he doesn't know Lil Billy (per someone who asked for it at one of the sound checks and he said "I don't know that one.")

Anyway, they know all the ISM, most/all of AD and lots of TTF stuff.  We're not going to get anything half-assed.  When they take their two week break, maybe they'll pull some more out and practice.  Otherwise, we should be very thankful that these mother fuckers put up some monster shit, night after night...even if some of them are repeats.

[ycartrob]

I wonder how we'd all react to the shows and the band in general if there was no forum, or internet. What if there was no way for us to access setlists and compare what was played, where, and for how long? Modern communications do seem to take away a lot of anticipation, or at least create a much less mysterious and magical kind.

that's a great point. I think back in the day, it was enough just to see your favorite band. I remember seeing The Who in 1980 and totally being blown away by the fact I was going to be in the same city with Pete Townsend. Setlist? Light show? Obscure songs? Who cares?! it's The Who!

but these days, bands are expected to be more than a band or musicians, etc... b/c we have the technology to know so much about them; that playing their "hits' just isn't enough for some. I think it has spoiled some fans into thinking it's their "right" to hear songs A,B or C.

I am satisfied with just having my cake   :)

[DaFunkyPrecedent]

no one is ungrateful here.  So stop saying that.  You are simply assuming that I'm ungrateful with nothing to back it up.  

And it's not complaining, it is criticism.  A big difference.  You guys sound like my Ex-Girlfriend who when she starts to lose a debate will just begin to throw in low blows and mean words to beat down her opponent (ME!).  

Remember - we are all die hard fans that ALL love this band.  Otherwise, no one would be here...

which kinda brings me to my next point (which i know Tracy or BH are gonna eat me alive for this one).  Because I have put so much time and love into this band...i kinda feel like I have the right to hear different songs everynight.  There, I fuckin said it!

[Sassbox]

Uh, no.  You don't have the right to hear different songs every night because that presumes you have the right to tell someone else (the band) what to do (play).  

You do have the right to express your opinion, you do have the right to show up and enjoy or not enjoy a performance, but you do not have the right to dictate what the band plays simply because you've exercised your other rights.

[ycartrob]

You guys sound like my Ex-Girlfriend who when she starts to lose a debate will just begin to throw in low blows and mean words to beat down her opponent (ME!).  

Is that the same girlfriend you refused to have sex with b/c you wanted to watch the Okonokos DVD instead? (which you could probably watch anytime for the rest of your life)

I guess I'm just not into the band as much as you are;

[size=16]you win[/size]

[Penny Lane]

no one is ungrateful here.  So stop saying that.  You are simply assuming that I'm ungrateful with nothing to back it up.  

And it's not complaining, it is criticism.  A big difference.  You guys sound like my Ex-Girlfriend who when she starts to lose a debate will just begin to throw in low blows and mean words to beat down her opponent (ME!).  

Remember - we are all die hard fans that ALL love this band.  Otherwise, no one would be here...

which kinda brings me to my next point (which i know Tracy or BH are gonna eat me alive for this one).  Because I have put so much time and love into this band...i kinda feel like I have the right to hear different songs everynight.  There, I fuckin said it!

i just checked my acct--i spent 800$ these past 3 days going to philly and boston shows--i have a sense of entitlement, too!!--i wanted to hear steam engine and dancefloors!! ha ha..funky, i'm totally with you--i know it's misplaced, though. i'm happy to hear whatever they wanna play ;-) just sayin--i get it...you should be able to express it on here

[McPickie]

this is a pretty interesting debate

i think a lot of peeps are being way too protective of the band and what they choose to do and beating up the poster instead of understanding what he's trying to say.

of course none of us has a say or a right to say anything about what the band plays

but the undercurrent of what funky started to say and has backed up against the attackers is that his comments come from a place of love

i love this band and i too, could listen to Phone Went West and TWTHS 10 times in a row, without getting bored. i just can't say the same for i'm amazed and look at you.

i think we all know the easy answer: if you don't like the setlists, don't go to the shows. or just go to 1 instead of 11.

it's a free-market system, don't like the product, stop buying it.

the original post is about love and a desire for more, but different kinds of love.

it's like sex. sex in any form is generally highly pleasurable experience, even with the same woman for decades.

if you're married or in a LTR, chances are your options are pretty limited, you're probably committed to sex with only one person, BUT there are more different kinds of sex than there are even MMJ songs, so once in a while, it's nice to do the kama sutra instead of missionary

poster isn't saying he's gonna stop loving the band, he's just asking them to mix it up

if i only had sex once a year, i wouldn't care what position it was in because it would only last 2 minutes anyways and it would be mind-blowing the whole time

but if i'm gonna have sex every night or every week or shit, every month, there damn straight better be some peanut butter, glow sticks, and a reptile involved once in a while. otherwise, it just gets boring. even thought its sex

we want to have sex, we just need to mix it up sometimes

the same thing happened with PJ, even this past tour that wasn't in support of an album.

i follow them religiously, but after 70+ shows where night-to-night you're getting 17 of 25 songs the same as the night before, it just gets stale. a desire to follow a band around, led me to MMJ, but now after 12+ shows and 4 on this tour, its getting stale.

i don't know if i'll find another lover that can do it like MMJ and PJ do, so i'm just praying she finds the kama sutra and starts whipping out the salamanders sooner than later

there's just so much potential. who knows why the band plays what they play. it's up to them. and it's up to us to decide if it's worth seeing look at you 12 times for 12 1% chances of hearing it's about twilight now.

but if that 1% were 10% or 20%, it would make a huge difference in my purchasing/band worship decisions

you know what i'm saying?

[Penny Lane]

LOL--speechless

[ycartrob]

this is a pretty interesting debate

i think a lot of peeps are being way too protective of the band and what they choose to do and beating up the poster instead of understanding what he's trying to say.

of course none of us has a say or a right to say anything about what the band plays

but the undercurrent of what funky started to say and has backed up against the attackers is that his comments come from a place of love

i love this band and i too, could listen to Phone Went West and TWTHS 10 times in a row, without getting bored. i just can't say the same for i'm amazed and look at you.

i think we all know the easy answer: if you don't like the setlists, don't go to the shows. or just go to 1 instead of 11.

it's a free-market system, don't like the product, stop buying it.

the original post is about love and a desire for more, but different kinds of love.

it's like sex. sex in any form is generally highly pleasurable experience, even with the same woman for decades.

if you're married or in a LTR, chances are your options are pretty limited, you're probably committed to sex with only one person, BUT there are more different kinds of sex than there are even MMJ songs, so once in a while, it's nice to do the kama sutra instead of missionary

poster isn't saying he's gonna stop loving the band, he's just asking them to mix it up

if i only had sex once a year, i wouldn't care what position it was in because it would only last 2 minutes anyways and it would be mind-blowing the whole time

but if i'm gonna have sex every night or every week or shit, every month, there damn straight better be some peanut butter, glow sticks, and a reptile involved once in a while. otherwise, it just gets boring. even thought its sex

we want to have sex, we just need to mix it up sometimes

the same thing happened with PJ, even this past tour that wasn't in support of an album.

i follow them religiously, but after 70+ shows where night-to-night you're getting 17 of 25 songs the same as the night before, it just gets stale. a desire to follow a band around, led me to MMJ, but now after 12+ shows and 4 on this tour, its getting stale.

i don't know if i'll find another lover that can do it like MMJ and PJ do, so i'm just praying she finds the kama sutra and starts whipping out the salamanders sooner than later

there's just so much potential. who knows why the band plays what they play. it's up to them. and it's up to us to decide if it's worth seeing look at you 12 times for 12 1% chances of hearing it's about twilight now.

but if that 1% were 10% or 20%, it would make a huge difference in my purchasing/band worship decisions

you know what i'm saying?

I think so.

It's like, when I read that the setlist from Louisville was similiar to the show I actually went to in Nashville the night before, I had sex for several hours, spending extra time in the Nunchuck Dove Lisp and Fainting Boisterous Bat positions.

however,

When I read that they played Eveyln in Atlanta, I had crazy monkey sex, and stayed in the Diverted Nervous Opossum position for hours until my lover called out for Receding Elbow Wombat until the wee hours of the morning until we ended with the magnificent (and dangerous) Stealth Cheetah Swirlee.

MMJ setlists are a lot like sex   :)
(and by that, I mean MMJ setlists are in no way, shape, or form like sex)

[Penny Lane]

this is a pretty interesting debate

i think a lot of peeps are being way too protective of the band and what they choose to do and beating up the poster instead of understanding what he's trying to say.

of course none of us has a say or a right to say anything about what the band plays

but the undercurrent of what funky started to say and has backed up against the attackers is that his comments come from a place of love

i love this band and i too, could listen to Phone Went West and TWTHS 10 times in a row, without getting bored. i just can't say the same for i'm amazed and look at you.

i think we all know the easy answer: if you don't like the setlists, don't go to the shows. or just go to 1 instead of 11.

it's a free-market system, don't like the product, stop buying it.

the original post is about love and a desire for more, but different kinds of love.

it's like sex. sex in any form is generally highly pleasurable experience, even with the same woman for decades.

if you're married or in a LTR, chances are your options are pretty limited, you're probably committed to sex with only one person, BUT there are more different kinds of sex than there are even MMJ songs, so once in a while, it's nice to do the kama sutra instead of missionary

poster isn't saying he's gonna stop loving the band, he's just asking them to mix it up

if i only had sex once a year, i wouldn't care what position it was in because it would only last 2 minutes anyways and it would be mind-blowing the whole time

but if i'm gonna have sex every night or every week or shit, every month, there damn straight better be some peanut butter, glow sticks, and a reptile involved once in a while. otherwise, it just gets boring. even thought its sex

we want to have sex, we just need to mix it up sometimes

the same thing happened with PJ, even this past tour that wasn't in support of an album.

i follow them religiously, but after 70+ shows where night-to-night you're getting 17 of 25 songs the same as the night before, it just gets stale. a desire to follow a band around, led me to MMJ, but now after 12+ shows and 4 on this tour, its getting stale.

i don't know if i'll find another lover that can do it like MMJ and PJ do, so i'm just praying she finds the kama sutra and starts whipping out the salamanders sooner than later

there's just so much potential. who knows why the band plays what they play. it's up to them. and it's up to us to decide if it's worth seeing look at you 12 times for 12 1% chances of hearing it's about twilight now.

but if that 1% were 10% or 20%, it would make a huge difference in my purchasing/band worship decisions

you know what i'm saying?

I think so.

It's like, when I read that the setlist from Louisville was similiar to the show I actually went to in Nashville the night before, I had sex for several hours, spending extra time in the Nunchuck Dove Lisp and Fainting Boisterous Bat positions.

however,

When I read that they played Eveyln in Atlanta, I had crazy monkey sex, and stayed in the Diverted Nervous Opossum position for hours until my lover called out for Receding Elbow Wombat until the wee hours of the morning until we ended with the magnificent (and dangerous) Stealth Cheetah Swirlee.

MMJ setlists are a lot like sex   :)

some of those positions are banned in certain states--ha ha...OMG...this thread MAY beat the gold bond thread.  at least you didn't mention the chicken cutlet

[DaFunkyPrecedent]

I HEAR YA!!!



Let me ask this question to EVERYONE:
Would you like it if My Morning Jacket switched up their set lists more? Yes or No.

[DaFunkyPrecedent]

You guys sound like my Ex-Girlfriend who when she starts to lose a debate will just begin to throw in low blows and mean words to beat down her opponent (ME!).  

Is that the same girlfriend you refused to have sex with b/c you wanted to watch the Okonokos DVD instead? (which you could probably watch anytime for the rest of your life)

I guess I'm just not into the band as much as you are;

[size=16]you win[/size]

Now you really sound like my Ex-Girlfriend

[The DARK]

Don't forget that unlike you, these guys wrote these songs. And they're proud of them and want to play them as much as they can. Just because you like Tennessee Fire more than Evil Urges doesn't mean that they do. They're still extremely proud of these new songs and are going to play them until they get bored of them themselves.

And I hardly think that they aren't switching it up. Opening with Touch Me Pt 2, Mahgeetah, and Anytime within the last week? Evelyn? War Begun? Cobra? Go to one of those shows and tell me it wasn't fresh. I dare you.

[thebigbang]

Maybe it would be a better experience for all if everyone could just relax and be thankful we're having a discussion over the new songs vs the classics. Just a few short years ago there were no classics at all.

First, I think the band should play whatever they want to play.  Every fan has a different play list they'd make up for each show if they could.  And I expect that if each band member independently drew up a list for each show, they'd likewise be different.  So no matter what they choose to play, just about everyone could find a quibble every show.  But listening to the fan feedback shouldn't hurt their decision making process, hint, hint.

Now, on to the quote from above, and this is just one fan's feedback and opinion. Your's will differ . . .

Actually, they had a wagon load of timeless classics from the very beginning in 1999, including some of the tunes on It Still Moves (One Big Holiday and I Will Sing You Songs).  Almost every song on the first two albums are classics. Nine years from now, I'm betting that only half the tunes on the last two albums will be considered classics by the majority of their fans.  And nine years from now, if they are still playing and people want to hear the oldies, it will be the oldies from the first three discs that they will mostly be clamoring for and not the oldies from Z and Evil Urges. (If we only had a time machine to take us there and settle that bet!)

Still, if half the tunes on the two newest albums are timeless classics, they are still far better than 99.9% of the other albums released these days.  These guys are operating on a different level than most  bands.

And oh by the way, if they do change the setlist, I want to hear (fan feedback alert) Hard Helmet and O is the One That is Real next time.  And Heart Breaking Man, like One Big, should be in every show! They neglect their EP and singles something awful.

And one last bit about this thread.  A whole lot of people have had very little live exposure to the TF and At Dawn tunes (September Blues, oh how I miss you).  They never toured as much behind those tunes compared to the ISM, Z and EU songs.  That could be a rationale for mixing more of them in for the new fans.  On the other hand, the first twenty or so times I heard them they were playing from the same pool of twentyfive or so classics and I never got bored by the set list of those shows.

[BH]

I spend a lot of time looking at setlists, and setlist trends and I really do like it just how it is.  I do understand what your saying Funky and I'm not bashing you, but people tend to look at the setlist with a microscope instead of a wide angle lense, you know what I mean?   MMJ sets have songs that come in waves.  They went almost a year I think without playing War Begun, then one day, it was back with a vengence!  Same with Phone Went West.   They never play It Beats 4U anymore, one of my favorites, but it will back.  When?  One never knows?  It's exciting to find out!   Just last week we got a Knot Comes Loose one night and a Going To Hell on another.   Totally out of the blue!  When I heard Masterplan in KC, it was like "Wow, where the fuck did this come from?"  

So far in 2008, they have played every song from Evil Urges, all but one from Z, all but two from It Still moves, all but seven from At Dawn, and all but five from Tennesee Fire.  That's fifteen songs, two of which they have never played and five of which they have hardly ever played.

They have also played Tonight I Want 2 Celebrate, COBRA!!! (which very few people have ever seen), How Do You Know, Where To Begin, Wonderful (The Way I Feel) and 12 covers.

This is all in a span of 54 shows!

For ten years, Jim has followed approximately the same basic formula for building cool setlists.  It's evolutionary, not revolutionary.

They still mix it up more than 95% of bands out there.  Are they Phish?  No.  

I guess my point is, don't worry, the other songs will be back.  And I for one, am excited to find out when.