Rolling Stone's 20 New Guitar Gods

[McPickie]

Or just watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhKxLgeNNUs

He had to go to the hospital afterwards...

[sweatboard]

I've yet to see either Carl or Jim just "go off" and totally leave the context of the song and just thrash on a solo.


Ok, then you haven't seen them nearly enough.  I agree Mike is a Great guitar player and that strat becomes part of his body at some points.  I've experienced Evenflow live more times than I care to mention.  I've heard him kill the solo on "Immortality" with an acoustic guitar.  Like you said, it's all subjective.  Mabey I've heard every solo Mike can pull off so many times that I take it for granted.    

[McPickie]

I've yet to see either Carl or Jim just "go off" and totally leave the context of the song and just thrash on a solo.
   

I'm ready to be enlightened. Please refer me to where I can appreciate this.

Maybe you have taken Mikey for granted. If you're talking about the Benaroya version of Immortality and you were there then I have no idea why we're having this discussion.

I'd rest my case on that solo.

[sweatboard]

I would start with the "Okonokos" dvd.  If you can get your hands on it the "Acoustic Chorale" dvd is a good testiment to how amazing Carl really is.  Live versions of Don Dante, I Will Sing You Songs, Strangulation, I Think I'm Going To Hell, One Big Holliday, Lay Low, Honest Man, etc. etc. I've seen Jim rip the solo's on Don Dante and OBH litterally inches from my face and that might make me a little biased.  I'll just say you could make great cases for both guitar duos.  I love them both, I think I'm just more interested in Jim and Carl at this point.  Carl has really broke through lately as far as just "going all out" live.  I'm sure we can both agree that all four of them should be ahead of John Mayer.  :)

[DaFunkyPrecedent]

ahhh...

no Robert Randolph
no Dan Auerbac of the Black Keys
no Cat Power - need some female love.
and the worst is...

NO PRINCE?????!!!!!!?????!!!!!!!wtf that guy can do anything on the guitar

but i guess everyone can be on there right?

but yay Jim and Carl.  Once this next album drops i'll finally be able to tell my friends im going to go see My Morning Jacket play and they wont be "who?".  Little by little...(Spin #8 album of the year, Jim and Carl #7 best guitar players) MMJ is getting love.  

Nice seeing Adam Jones - he could be #1 in my books.  

[aMD]

Congrats to Jim and Carl.  They definitely deserve to be on the list.  And I'm glad they gave the nod to Jim as well.  I wish they'd write about them more often.  Everytime they write them up is glowing but not often enough.  They rated Z in the top ten albums of 05 and then don't mention them again until now and they release okonokos in the meanwhile!  (other than a one sentence blurb about It Makes No Difference).  but whatever.

DFP, Prince would not be a "new" guitar god.  He's been a guitar god for close to 30 years now.

[Dorothy_Mantooth]

this is a good time for us all to finally get that group tattoo we've been wanting. Everyone has to go out and get the number "7" tattooed on their right bicep. then we're taking a group photo. NO WHINERS. then we're sending it via satellite imagery to Jim and Carl.

John Frusciante? No... nope. Kaki King is an intersting choice. ladiez.

[Carter41]

Or just watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhKxLgeNNUs

He had to go to the hospital afterwards...

:o That was hauntingly beautiful. I pretty much had chills the whole time. Thanks for the link. I've only seen PJ once, and I wasn't too impressed, but jesus, that video pretty much changed my mind. So, did he leave the show after that video ended to go to the hospital? Can you elaborate? I know little to nothing on PJ...

Also, I'm thrilled that Jim and Carl made it. That's awesome!

[McPickie]

I don't know the specifics of the story. PJ are a pretty private band. That song was the closer for that show and afterwards, the legend goes that Mike had to be hospitalized.

here's another one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBgRpscIvvM

[DaFunkyPrecedent]

PRINCE may not "new" but neither is

3. John Frusciante - Red Hot Chili Peppers
4. Luther Dickinson - North Mississippi Allstars
5. Nels Cline - Wilco
6. Warren Haynes - Allman Brothers Band, Gov't Mule

them alls pretty old..right???

[aMD]

PRINCE may not "new" but neither is

3. John Frusciante - Red Hot Chili Peppers
4. Luther Dickinson - North Mississippi Allstars
5. Nels Cline - Wilco
6. Warren Haynes - Allman Brothers Band, Gov't Mule

them alls pretty old..right???

well, not really.  and not that it really matters, but I'm bored so here it goes...
3. John Frusciante joined RHCP in 1988 and was only seven years old when Prince signed his first major label contract
4. Luther Dickinson helped form the North Mississippi All Stars in 1996
5. Nels Cline while nearly as old as Prince did not join Wilco and came into reall fame until 2004
6. Warren Haynes founded his band in 2003, gov. mule in 1995, and joined the Allman Bros. in 1989

Prince's first major label record came out in 1978, an entire decade before these guys hit the block.

[megisnotreal]

Kaki King is an intersting choice. ladiez.

represent.

[.Walt]

just got my issue today in the mail. i'm a little upset at rollingstone, again. i thought their paragraph on carl/jim sucked, i didn't like it. sure its nice to see that they made the list, it is. i'm just upset at the fact that rollingstone always has something good to say about mmj, this time around it didn't feel that way.  

here's the way i see it: your boss said you did a good job, but not good enough.
sure they gave them respect, but i thought they disrespected them as well. is it just me?

[aMD]

just got my issue today in the mail. i'm a little upset at rollingstone, again. i thought their paragraph on carl/jim sucked, i didn't like it. sure its nice to see that they made the list, it is. i'm just upset at the fact that rollingstone always has something good to say about mmj, this time around it didn't feel that way.  

here's the way i see it: your boss said you did a good job, but not good enough.
sure they gave them respect, but i thought they disrespected them as well. is it just me?

What does the paragraph say?

[megisnotreal]

just got my issue today in the mail. i'm a little upset at rollingstone, again. i thought their paragraph on carl/jim sucked, i didn't like it. sure its nice to see that they made the list, it is. i'm just upset at the fact that rollingstone always has something good to say about mmj, this time around it didn't feel that way.  

here's the way i see it: your boss said you did a good job, but not good enough.
sure they gave them respect, but i thought they disrespected them as well. is it just me?

yeah, it kinda pissed me off, too.

[peanut butter puddin surprise]

It's nice that the guys get attention from RS.  My opinion of RS aside, any and all press is a great thing as who knows who picks up these mags and reads em.

Maybe someone should list the 20 best music magazines.

[jeffro79]

Heres the paragraph:
Skynyrd Art-Theorists
Jim James & Carl Broemel

[/size]On record, My Morning Jacket are a great bunch of bands, depending on singer-guitarist James' songwriting (country, art pop, barroom-brawl rock). Live, James and Broemel are an avenging Lynyrd Skynyrd front line, fattened by the wrecking ball swing of bassist Two-Tone Tommy. James and Broemel play nothing new. But their roaring classicism is an ecstatic reminder of how a loud guitar, in the right hands, can make the world go 'round.
Essential Performance: "Run Thru," Okonokos(2006)

I have several issues with this paragraph, 1. barroom-brawl rock WTF??? nothing about any of MMJ's music makes me think  barrroom brawl 2. the nothing new comment really really chaps my bag  3. and to me the loud guitar comment comes off as RS saying thats all the band is,  loud guitars.
Rolling Stone is shit!

[sweatboard]

I would like to see a good barroom brawl while "lil Billy" was being played really loud.

[cmccubbin@work]

Heres the paragraph:
Skynyrd Art-Theorists
Jim James & Carl Broemel

[/size]On record, My Morning Jacket are a great bunch of bands, depending on singer-guitarist James' songwriting (country, art pop, barroom-brawl rock). Live, James and Broemel are an avenging Lynyrd Skynyrd front line, fattened by the wrecking ball swing of bassist Two-Tone Tommy. James and Broemel play nothing new. But their roaring classicism is an ecstatic reminder of how a loud guitar, in the right hands, can make the world go 'round.
Essential Performance: "Run Thru," Okonokos(2006)

I have several issues with this paragraph, 1. barroom-brawl rock WTF??? nothing about any of MMJ's music makes me think  barrroom brawl 2. the nothing new comment really really chaps my bag  3. and to me the loud guitar comment comes off as RS saying thats all the band is,  loud guitars.
Rolling Stone is shit!

i kind of was perplexed by this as well.  in the past RS had given the Jacket much love and i assume that ranking Jim and Carl as 7th constitutes props, but the article mentioned was not at all laudatory.

my problems:  

(1) i understand when newbie journalists compare MMJ to southern rock, but RS has written several pieces about them and reviewed 3 of their albums now.  if they can't come up with anything better than Lynyrd Skynyrd then David Fricke needs to go back to journalism school!

(2) and how do they play nothing new?  what does this even mean?  i would say the Jacket is pretty damn original.  or course they sound like other bands, who the hell doesn't?  but MMJ is one of the most original and REAL sounding bands that exists on the face of the Earth today!

(3) i did kinda like the loud guitar comment, but i guess i took it a different way.  Jim and Carl turn up the guitars to 11 Spinal Tap style and then rock your face off.  they don't need to play like Hendrix, or Van Halen, or so and so...they just f'in rock.  their rock isn't pretentious and it doesn't take a guitar master to be able to play it, but its fun, its  loud and its real.

[sweatboard]

"Jim and Carl turn up the guitars to 11 Spinal Tap style and then rock your face off.  they don't need to play like Hendrix, or Van Halen, or so and so...they just f'in rock.  their rock isn't pretentious and it doesn't take a guitar master to be able to play it, but its fun, its  loud and its real."

See, this is a good example of why they should just contact the members of the forum to write about the band.  I would have much rather seen that in Rolling Stone.  Good stuff.