Jacket Fans: Stoned, Drunk, Rude, & Stupid?

[e_wind]

uh, widespread panic?  apparently you haven't been educated on the power of manipulation while people are on psychoactive drugs.  Sure people at those "peaceful" concerts are probably a little less rough than some rock shows, but they are also being brainwashed in the meantime and do not have the ability to understand the process b/c they are a bunch of rich yuppies who get to go to concerts b/c their parents spoil them and never educated them on the effects of drugs.  They'll all be CEOs one day though and will sit in an office trying figure out a way to reconnect their neurons while their life passes them by and the people who actually paid attention while doing drugs are actually living our lives.

I have seen MMJ 5 times and have not witnessed what is being discussed by some of you.  I was just in Columbus and people were having a great time.  If you are seeing these problems it's b/c you aren't enjoying the show or you are anal and it is simply your perception of what "is happening"...and i think many people are looking at their cell phones b/c they are taking pictures and texting friends about the show.  

Yes, you can meet yourself, unless you don't have the ability to alter your reality.  Go read some books on quantum mechanics.

Sorry if any of you think I'm being an ass, I just think it's pathetic for any of you to be tricked by just a few idiots into thinking that MMJ aren't playing peaceful shows anymore.  I was there...I saw good things...you can live in the dark if you want.

first paragraph... no

[johnnYYac]

;)

[jones]

I'm 32 and I prefer chairbacks.  I love the experience of being on the rail, but the drama sucks.  Most of the time for me, it's just not worth it.  

I'm 32 and I don't prefer chairbacks.  Rock with me flyguy.  It'll be worth it. ;D :-*

I just like to have my "defined area"; I don't actually use the seats for anything more than a barricade.  Also, there's a good chance for several beer/bathroom breaks and, although I've never tried either, I just don't think that I would be a fan of Depends or a catheter.

Ruckus, if we ever end up at the same show, I pledge to rock the rail with you.

I'm hurt, Rowan. Hurt, confused, and sad.  ::)

Ruckus blew me a kiss.  That's what put me over the edge.

[Ruckus]

You might say, "Well I'm a girl, am I a bro if I talk during a show?".  The Answer is no bananer's.  You'd be a dumb bitch.  

I just white dragoned my iced tea  ;D

You're doing it wrong.

[vespachick]

This year at Sasquatch I was on the rail all day on Saturday so I could be up front for the Jacket.  It was interesting to watch because as the day progressed the audience morphed as the bands changed.  By the time OK Go came on it was fairly crowded and the audience started getting a little more lively, but generally cool.  Then Broken Social Scene came on and the crowd thickened up a bit, but were still having a good time and being respectful.  When The National hit the stage it was definitely SRO by that point but everybody was rocking out having a good time; some crowd surfing started, a few people got rowdy, but still generally righteous - everybody was superenjoying the show and wondering what Matt would do next.  Then Vampire Weekend took the stage.  Adios mio.  I mean, I admit that I'm not a fan of VW, however, I can tap a toe here and there when it comes on the radio.  The Bros showed up in force.  It was obvious though that most were clearly just there to "be there" and the picture taking and the smoking and the crowd surfing and moshing, yes you heard me: MOSHING, to VW???  WTF?! The same kids, over and over being hauled over the rail, only to sail overhead again 10 minutes later.  Pushing to the front so their iPhones could get a better pic of Bro being pulled over the rail by security. Ridiculous. That is not enjoying the music in my opinion; that is being a douchy self-involved tool who can't handle their emotions or social behavior or whatever.  Happily, they must have all gone off to the dance tent by the time the Jacket came on because the crowd surfing stopped and listening/mace-felting began.  Life was right once again and we enjoyed a stellar set with no trouble.

Just because somebody overindulges at a show, or gets their ya ya's out by showing off for their friends while a band happens to be playing is not excused because it's "Rock N Roll, man".   A douche is a douche no matter where it's injected.

Ya, I'm old.  So what.

[johnnYYac]

"A douche is a douche no matter where it's injected." -vespachick

Bumper sticker time!

[peafunk31]

A douche is a douche no matter where it's injected.

Undeniably sig worthy! ;D

[iLikeBeer]

"A douche is a douche no matter where it's injected." -vespachick

Bumper sticker time!

LOL!  Classic quote vespa!  And I would definitely put one of those bumper stickers on my truck!  ;D

[Sticky Icky Green Stuff]

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[lucylew]

I have to say the drunk douchebags at the MMJ show at Red Rocks in 2008 completely ruined the experience for me.  Which is  a shame because I'd long wanted to see a show at Red Rocks (and for the love of christ, it was My Morning Jacket!)...

That was indeed a bummer.

[capt. scotty]

You might say, "Well I'm a girl, am I a bro if I talk during a show?".  The Answer is no bananer's.  You'd be a dumb bitch.  

I just white dragoned my iced tea  ;D

OMG. I had to look that up on urban dictionary. Disgusting!!

You didn't even use that properly.  ;D It's supposed to come out through the girl's nose. Ick.

saying white dragon is a lot easier than saying "im drinking iced tea and I just laughed so hard it came out my nose"

Plus, I get to teach girls like you dirty things.  ;)

[e_wind]

This year at Sasquatch I was on the rail all day on Saturday so I could be up front for the Jacket.  It was interesting to watch because as the day progressed the audience morphed as the bands changed.  By the time OK Go came on it was fairly crowded and the audience started getting a little more lively, but generally cool.  Then Broken Social Scene came on and the crowd thickened up a bit, but were still having a good time and being respectful.  When The National hit the stage it was definitely SRO by that point but everybody was rocking out having a good time; some crowd surfing started, a few people got rowdy, but still generally righteous - everybody was superenjoying the show and wondering what Matt would do next.  Then Vampire Weekend took the stage.  Adios mio.  I mean, I admit that I'm not a fan of VW, however, I can tap a toe here and there when it comes on the radio.  The Bros showed up in force.  It was obvious though that most were clearly just there to "be there" and the picture taking and the smoking and the crowd surfing and moshing, yes you heard me: MOSHING, to VW???  WTF?! The same kids, over and over being hauled over the rail, only to sail overhead again 10 minutes later.  Pushing to the front so their iPhones could get a better pic of Bro being pulled over the rail by security. Ridiculous. That is not enjoying the music in my opinion; that is being a douchy self-involved tool who can't handle their emotions or social behavior or whatever.  Happily, they must have all gone off to the dance tent by the time the Jacket came on because the crowd surfing stopped and listening/mace-felting began.  Life was right once again and we enjoyed a stellar set with no trouble.

Just because somebody overindulges at a show, or gets their ya ya's out by showing off for their friends while a band happens to be playing is not excused because it's "Rock N Roll, man".   A douche is a douche no matter where it's injected.

Ya, I'm old.  So what.

I'm not saying people should get away with physically invading someones space (ie pushing, "moshing", hitting, whatever), but if I go see a band I like, I'm gonna drink a good amount of beer before/during/after the show. Seeing your band you enjoy live is a cause of celebration! Its a night to have a good time, and many people have a better time letting loose when substance is involved. And talking? If someones conversation is overpowering the dozens of Amps and PAs then theres something wrong there. Though, I can see a group of people infront of you taking pictures and shit getting pretty annoying. The point is, everyone that is spending 45$ + (which is a lot of money to me as a broke college kid) wants to enjoy the show, and they should have the right to get as drunk as they want (if they aren't driving, that is). It really is a shame that anyones Jacket experience is ruined, but the scene at a huge show with a band that performs like MMJ does should be pretty expected. I know there are a few cases of kids (like you said) that are there just to say they are there, and that is the worst, but that is also expected and shouldn't ruin your show! Just my ramblings on the subject....

[Anu]

I was at said Nashville show. I didnt read any of this thread except the first and last page, but I feel like going to a show with thousands of people, most of which are probably in their 20's, at a venue that sells alcohol you should expect people to be "drunk and stupid." I mean, it IS a rock concert. Sorry if I sound rude, but complaining about other people having fun that you don't agree with personally is a little bit ridiculous in my opinion.

We all get that part -- yes.

We were bummed by people violating the TN smoking law, which NO ONE does at the Ryman, NO MATTER who is playing.

We did have a problem with the groping-elbowing-pushing-physicality of the space up-front where the party was more important than the show.

Of course, I "got over it" & have only deepened in my YimYames Jacket fandom since starting this thread, which I am still amazed by, since seeing the Yim perform on the Appalachian Voices tour.

Alcoholism is not something I "don't agree with personally" -- it's a freaking disease that owns your ass until you either die, go to jail, or get better.

But as a person who has been worse than what I saw, of course, I wan t to be tolerant. But it was my girlfriend's first Jacket show, she's not hardcore like I am, & the folks at Nashville kind of wrecked her night. She didn't feel the love that others feel, and for that, I was sad.