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I'm starting this now as I will be in and out between the Cards game, work, and trying to sneak a quick workout in. This is my album of the year. This is a review I wrote for a local site. It's an outstanding record.
http://www.playbackstl.com/music-reviews/10969-frank-turner-england-keep-my-bones-epitaph (http://www.playbackstl.com/music-reviews/10969-frank-turner-england-keep-my-bones-epitaph)
Go!
Thanks to MJK, this album has become one of my favorites of the year as well. When I first read of England Keep My Bones, the question that came to mind was, "Is this similar in style to Billy Bragg's mid 80's output?" That possibility immediately had me intrigued. When I finally listened to it, their shared fusion of punk and folk was immediately apparent though with Bragg, the punk arises more in his lyrics, whereas with Turner, much more so in the music.
The 3 prominent aspects that appealed to me about this album were its earnestness, its unabashed liberal patriotism (contrary to ideals of patriotism we are bombarded with here), and catchy, drink and sing along nature of a majority of the tracks. Admittedly, there are 2 or 3 tracks that skew towards the FM rock radio sound that normally would turn me off. However, aforementioned honesty in the lyrics and music overcome my cynical barriers and plays as an enjoyable album for the most part. Now whether I'll feel the same way about his next record after the financial and professional success he is enjoying right now is yet to be seen.
See y'all at 930
Clearly this isn't happening huh?
Frank Turner doesn't waste a lot of time getting started with this album does he? Eulogy is awesome.
I'm just now getting started with this album.
This is my first introduction to Frank Turner so bear with me.
Also, to add to my previous post, I think Eulogy is really effective because it really sets forward the theme of death that he addresses throughout the album. Starting an album with a song called "Eulogy" really sets the tone. Album is good for a number of reasons, but it's definitely his songwriting that makes it great for me.
Going along the lines of Ruckus' description of many of the songs being of a drink and sing along nature, so far this album is giving off the vibe of sort of a toned down Irish Punk band playing traditional Irish folk songs everyone sings along to in the pubs.
Where's Brian?
As far as "I Still Believe" goes, it's weird cause usually I'm not big on songs that are "about" rock and roll and go so far as to address it in the song (they seem sorta hokey to me), and while some of it still doesn't sit quite right with me, this one does seem very sincere. Not my favorite song on the album, but I do like it better than most songs with similar messages.
My first thoughts were folk punk too. Was Frank Turner in punk bands before doing this?
Quote from: ManNamedTruth on Oct 12, 2011, 09:47 PM
My first thoughts were folk punk too. Was Frank Turner in punk bands before doing this?
He was.
Quote from: iLikeBeer on Oct 12, 2011, 09:44 PM
Going along the lines of Ruckus' description of many of the songs being of a drink and sing along nature, so far this album is giving off the vibe of sort of a toned down Irish Punk band playing traditional Irish folk songs everyone sings along to in the pubs.
Yeah, definitely sing-along songs. Which is perfect for me, because once I know a song, I'm gonna sing along whether that's what the artist intended or not. :thumbsup:
Rivers is a beatiful song. His passion for his country really comes through in this song. Great lyrics and wonderful acoustic guitar.
Quote from: iLikeBeer on Oct 12, 2011, 09:52 PM
Rivers is a beatiful song. His passion for his country really comes through in this song. Great lyrics and wonderful acoustic guitar.
Agreed. Rivers is a perfect example of that liberal patriotism that Ruckus mentioned.
Question, I may have missed something, but can someone tell me what the H and the C stand for on the album's cover? Obviously, FT is for Frank Turner, but those other two got me stumped.
i like the folky parts more than the FM pop sound Ruckus alluded to. it's the kind of thing that sounds good on first listen but turns me off after awhile. kind of the same reason I never got into The Gaslight Anthem.
English Curse is amazing. I wish my voice was good enough to do a stand-alone track like that.
Man. I'm really digging this album so far. I Am Disappeared really grabs you in the way it changes from hard to soft. The piano really stood out to me in that song as well! And Frank really seems like quite the songwriter.
English Curse is another song you could hear being sung in the pubs. Love the acapello though.
Definitely going to have to check out more Frank Clark.
Holy crap I'm in! Glad you guys are listening! I guess I'll start on the 2nd side now. Just got the vinyl in the mail today. What are the chances?!
English curse is the central glue to this album. Love it!
This would probably be a fun show to go see. I think he came here a month or two ago.
Quote from: ManNamedTruth on Oct 12, 2011, 09:59 PM
i like the folky parts more than the FM pop sound Ruckus alluded to. it's the kind of thing that sounds good on first listen but turns me off after awhile. kind of the same reason I never got into The Gaslight Anthem.
I like this A LOT more than Gaslight Anthem
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Where's Brian?
Watching the Cards. Pray for them!!
I really haven't had a chance to get into this one. I'll have to give it a listen this week.
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Quote from: ManNamedTruth on Oct 12, 2011, 09:59 PM
i like the folky parts more than the FM pop sound Ruckus alluded to. it's the kind of thing that sounds good on first listen but turns me off after awhile. kind of the same reason I never got into The Gaslight Anthem.
I like this A LOT more than Gaslight Anthem
Agreed, I think this is better. There's only been like one or two songs that gave me that feeling.
I love If I Ever I Stray.
The path I chose isn't straight and narrow
It wanders around liek a drunken fellow
Sometimes it's hard for me to follow, but
if you've got myu back I'll go on, if you've
got my back I'll go on.
Wessex Boy into Nights Become Days into Redemption is some really powerful stuff!
I' ve travelled Scotland and Ireland but never England. Wessex Boy sells me a place like very few songs.
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Wessex Boy into Nights Become Days into Redemption is some really powerful stuff!
Agreed! I guess you jumped ahead. I thought I might be ahead a bit. Redemption lyrically sometimes falls in the "too sappy" for me but is still a beautiful song.
Nights Become Days :thumbsup:
Quote from: Ruckus on Oct 12, 2011, 10:13 PM
I' ve travelled Scotland and Ireland but never England. Wessex Boy sells me a place like very few songs.
Funny, I've done England but never Scotland or Ireland... :)
What makes the album for me is Glory Hallelujah as a closer to Eulogy as an opener. As a devout atheist, I cannot express enough the joy of having an anthem. I know he has to preface this track live everytime he plays it with a speech saying it's his time to say his peace.
So positive :)
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What makes the album for me is Glory Hallelujah as a closer to Eulogy as an opener. As a devout atheist, I cannot express enough the joy of having an anthem. I know he has to preface this track live everytime he plays it with a speech saying it's his time to say his peace.
So positive :)
My wife's sister and her VP of a local Oil Company husband are both fanatical Baptists as well as Fox News watching Tea Party wealthy Republicans and Glory Hallelujah is one song I would love to sit them down to listen to! :thumbsup: I get so fed up with having to listen to them act as though their beliefs are the ONLY true beliefs?! Close minded people suck!
Quote from: iLikeBeer on Oct 12, 2011, 10:16 PM
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I' ve travelled Scotland and Ireland but never England. Wessex Boy sells me a place like very few songs.
Funny, I've done England but never Scotland or Ireland... :)
Were you stuck in Manchester the whole time? ;) ;D
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Quote from: Ruckus on Oct 12, 2011, 10:20 PM
What makes the album for me is Glory Hallelujah as a closer to Eulogy as an opener. As a devout atheist, I cannot express enough the joy of having an anthem. I know he has to preface this track live everytime he plays it with a speech saying it's his time to say his peace.
So positive :)
My wife's sister and her VP of a local Oil Company husband are both fanatical Baptists as well as Fox News watching Tea Party wealthy Republicans and Glory Hallelujah is one song I would love to sit them down to listen to! :thumbsup: I get so fed up with having to listen to them act as though their beliefs are the ONLY true beliefs?! Close minded people suck!
Exactly. To the believers, more power to ya. I've said my say in all my school mandate pledges. My father is a Catholic raised Indian turned atheist and my mother is Japanese raised on Shinto/Buddhist principles. They've made it work and it had nothing to do with religion.
Brothers and sisters, have you heard the news?
The storm has lifted and there's nothing to lose,
So swap your confirmation for your dancing shoes,
Because there never was no God.
Step out of the darkness and onto the streets,
Forget about the fast, let's have a carnival feast,
Raise up your lowered head to hear the liberation beat,
Because there never was no God.
There is no God,
So clap your hands together,
There is no God,
No heaven and no hell.
There is no God,
We're all in this together,
There is no God,
So ring that victory bell.
No cowering in the dark before these overbearing priests,
Not waiting until we die until we restitute the meek,
No blaming all our failings on imaginary beasts,
Because there never was no God.
No fighting over land your distant fathers told you of,
Not spilling blood for those who have never spread a drop of blood,
No finger pointing justified by fairies up above,
Because there never was no God.
There is no God,
So clap your hands together,
There is no God,
No heaven and no hell.
There is no God,
We're all in this together,
There is no God,
So ring that victory bell.
And I know you're scared of dieing man and I am too,
But just pretending it's not happening isn't gonna see us through,
So just accept that there's an end game and we haven't got much time,
And then in the here and now we can try and do things right.
Forget about the crazy things that people have believed,
And think of wondrous things that normal people have achieved,
'Cos I've known beauty in the stillness of cathedrals in the day,
I sang Glory Hallelujah! Won't you wash my sins away?
But now I'm singing my refrain and this is what I say,
I say there never was no God.
There is no God,
So clap your hands together,
There is no God,
No heaven and no hell.
There is no God,
We're all in this together,
There is no God,
So ring that victory bell.
There is no God,
So clap your hands together,
There is no God,
No heaven and no hell.
There is no God,
We're all in this together,
There is no God,
So ring that victory bell.
I feel like I cheated on Sweatboard ;D
Quote from: Ruckus on Oct 12, 2011, 10:29 PM
I feel like I cheated on Sweatboard ;D
;D I think he'll be proud!! :)
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Quote from: Ruckus on Oct 12, 2011, 10:13 PM
I' ve travelled Scotland and Ireland but never England. Wessex Boy sells me a place like very few songs.
Funny, I've done England but never Scotland or Ireland... :)
Were you stuck in Manchester the whole time? ;) ;D
;D The Stone Roses were what actually led me to being a fan of ManU! They still play This Is The One when the players take the pitch at Old Trafford!
I was actually based in London during my stay there btw... :P
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Where's Brian?
Watching the Cards. Pray for them!!
I really haven't had a chance to get into this one. I'll have to give it a listen this week.
See this ILB!? I can't take part because I'm watching CARDS v BREWERS! Final track validated :beer:
Pretty much everything Ruckus has said is exactly why I fell in love with this album. You clearly feel that England (the proper country not the Isles, GB, or anywhere else) is the greatest place. Glory Hallelujah is such a fantastic ending...and yes I've proudly been an atheist for 20 years.
I want to sit in a pub and drink and sing to this entire album. Y'all are invited.
Anyone listening to the Deluxe Edition of this album?
There are 3 damn good acoustic versions of Peggy, I Still Believe and I Am Disappeared to end this album...
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Quote from: iLikeBeer on Oct 12, 2011, 09:44 PM
Going along the lines of Ruckus' description of many of the songs being of a drink and sing along nature, so far this album is giving off the vibe of sort of a toned down Irish Punk band playing traditional Irish folk songs everyone sings along to in the pubs.
Yeah, definitely sing-along songs. Which is perfect for me, because once I know a song, I'm gonna sing along whether that's what the artist intended or not. :thumbsup:
:beer: :thumbsup:
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Quote from: ManNamedTruth on Oct 12, 2011, 09:46 PM
Where's Brian?
Watching the Cards. Pray for them!!
I really haven't had a chance to get into this one. I'll have to give it a listen this week.
See this ILB!? I can't take part because I'm watching CARDS v BREWERS! Final track validated :beer:
Can I get an AMEN??? ;D Cards/Brewers? Enough to make me want to vomit...
Quote from: woodnymph on Oct 12, 2011, 10:33 PM
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I feel like I cheated on Sweatboard ;D
;D I think he'll be proud!! :)
I wish you joined us in the conversation Woody!
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Quote from: YimBlaylock on Oct 12, 2011, 09:50 PM
Quote from: iLikeBeer on Oct 12, 2011, 09:44 PM
Going along the lines of Ruckus' description of many of the songs being of a drink and sing along nature, so far this album is giving off the vibe of sort of a toned down Irish Punk band playing traditional Irish folk songs everyone sings along to in the pubs.
Yeah, definitely sing-along songs. Which is perfect for me, because once I know a song, I'm gonna sing along whether that's what the artist intended or not. :thumbsup:
:beer: :thumbsup:
Well said. I do this a LOT when I'm travelling
alone in my car with the music so loud it drowns out how bad I'm actually singing to the point where I can pretend that I'm actually harmonizing with the song... :beer:
And singing along at shows is his intention
Good pick tonight mjk. :thumbsup: :beer:
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I feel like I cheated on Sweatboard ;D
;D I think he'll be proud!! :)
I wish you joined us in the conversation Woody!
woody needs to join the forum club, it's such a sausage party here.
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Quote from: Ruckus on Oct 12, 2011, 10:29 PM
I feel like I cheated on Sweatboard ;D
;D I think he'll be proud!! :)
I wish you joined us in the conversation Woody!
woody needs to join the forum club, it's such a sausage party here.
For sure. Anyone who feels like sitting down and listening better get their 2 cents in. More the merrier for sure!
Where's Penny? I believe she likes this one also.
okay:
1. i love sausage parties
2. my record player is broken so i didn't check this thread
3. i love this album
4. i love sausage parties..wait...
Quote from: iLikeBeer on Oct 12, 2011, 10:34 PM
;D The Stone Roses were what actually led me to being a fan of ManU!
well NOW we're talking...let's get some SR up in here!
Quote from: mjk73 on Oct 12, 2011, 10:52 PM
Where's Penny? I believe she likes this one also.
Ask and you shall receive.
Apparently her turntable gets the internet
Quote from: YimBlaylock on Oct 12, 2011, 09:46 PM
As far as "I Still Believe" goes, it's weird cause usually I'm not big on songs that are "about" rock and roll and go so far as to address it in the song (they seem sorta hokey to me), and while some of it still doesn't sit quite right with me, this one does seem very sincere. Not my favorite song on the album, but I do like it better than most songs with similar messages.
Couldn't agree more YB
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Quote from: mjk73 on Oct 12, 2011, 10:52 PM
Where's Penny? I believe she likes this one also.
Ask and you shall receive.
Apparently her turntable gets the internet
No doubt. If turntalbes got internet, I'd be on that like flys on a ribroast.
And hell yeah we need some SR up in heer.
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;D The Stone Roses were what actually led me to being a fan of ManU!
well NOW we're talking...let's get some SR up in here!
Haven't had my pick yet...
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Where's Brian?
Watching the Cards. Pray for them!!
sweatin this bitch out. I think they are trying to kill us all via heart attack
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Quote from: iLikeBeer on Oct 12, 2011, 10:34 PM
;D The Stone Roses were what actually led me to being a fan of ManU!
well NOW we're talking...let's get some SR up in here!
Haven't had my pick yet...
Apparently it's my turn. I'm gonna sit on it until tomorrow while Wolof consummates his marriage :beer:
I may continue to stretch the genre but I'll try to keep it upbeat. The drinking party starts at 8 and the listening at 930
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Where's Brian?
Watching the Cards. Pray for them!!
sweatin this bitch out. I think they are trying to kill us all via heart attack
I'm rockin' my Rob Deer jersey. Let's go Brew Crew!
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I feel like I cheated on Sweatboard ;D
;D I think he'll be proud!! :)
I wish you joined us in the conversation Woody!
woody needs to join the forum club, it's such a sausage party here.
For sure. Anyone who feels like sitting down and listening better get their 2 cents in. More the merrier for sure!
Ahhhhh sure, what the heck! I wind up lurking most of the time anywho :P for some reason I'm home a lot of Wednesday nights at album club time hahah..... but I may not be the most reliable for listening to entire albums, I tend to exhibit musical a.d.d. sometimes.... but I'd love to join in! I don't have spotify or whatnot, but I usually find myself youtubing or d/l-ing the tunes to check 'em out. I'm not sure I'm feeling a very "Irish pub drinking songs" vibe tonight though, I must admit (who saw that coming?!), but I like to give all music a fair listen! :) Thanks for the invite ya'll!
And there's Penny! Hahahah Penny take it away! I was feelin the pressure, you've got to be the better commentator here for this album!
I'll see what I can muster up though, germs.......
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Where's Brian?
Watching the Cards. Pray for them!!
sweatin this bitch out. I think they are trying to kill us all via heart attack
I'm rockin' my Rob Deer jersey. Let's go Brew Crew!
Brewers sausages in the house!
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nice pick Koehler, might even buy the CD. it's a good album for drinking for sure.
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;D ;D ;D omg that puppy hahah
I really like Peggy Sang the Blues so far, it reminds me of something I can't quite recall, and I diggg.... likin' the up-beat-ness kickin things off....
Holy crap, Rivers starts off sounding like Zep's "Bron-Yr-Aur Stomp," at the 14 second mark... this one's already got my vote :thumbsup:
Quote from: woodnymph on Oct 12, 2011, 11:31 PM
Holy crap, Rivers starts off sounding like Zep's "Bron-Yr-Aur Stomp," at the 14 second mark... this one's already got my vote :thumbsup:
:thumbsup:
I'm giving it another listen with the lyric sheet as well
Well I feel awful late to the party tonight... but I'm on "I'm Disappeared" right now, and on that note I might disappear myself and head to bed..... I do like what I hear so far though, and I don't get much of the "Irish pub" vibe thus far in..... though I guess I was expecting to hear an album to the tune of Ween's "Blarney Stone" hahah (which I do like from time to time!) True I hope you don't mind my substitute veggie sausage affinity overtaking your quote, that's just how I roll 8)
Goodnight ya'll, this lurker appreciates all the great recommends, til next week!
Quote from: Ruckus on Oct 12, 2011, 10:29 PM
I feel like I cheated on Sweatboard ;D
Cards WIN, CARDS WIN!!!!! Take your sausage and stick it in your butt....God Is Gay!@!
Good stuff Rukus, I'm listening right now......Proud :)
Because there never was no God!!!
There is no God, We're all in this together.
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Quote from: Ruckus on Oct 12, 2011, 10:29 PM
I feel like I cheated on Sweatboard ;D
Cards WIN, CARDS WIN!!!!! Take your sausage and stick it in your butt....God Is Gay!@!
Good stuff Rukus, I'm listening right now......Proud :)
Because there never was no God!!!
There is no God, We're all in this together.
This is your fellow Cards' fan Koehler's album. The series is going 7
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Quote from: Ruckus on Oct 12, 2011, 10:29 PM
I feel like I cheated on Sweatboard ;D
Cards WIN, CARDS WIN!!!!! Take your sausage and stick it in your butt....God Is Gay!@!
Good stuff Rukus, I'm listening right now......Proud :)
Because there never was no God!!!
There is no God, We're all in this together.
This is your fellow Cards' fan Koehler's album. The series is going 7
I hope so, it's so much fun.
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Really like the song writing on this record but I'm not sure I'm English enough to dig it out time and time again. I CAN really see how this would be a favorite for many people. I'm on "I'm Disappeared" right now. My favorite so far....Bob Dylan reference, people wrapped up tight and things that might kill them and it doesn't really sound like a pub song, or an fm song, somewhere in-between......money. It sounds kind of like Keane, when Keane is good....which is'nt that often.
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Where's Brian?
Watching the Cards. Pray for them!!
sweatin this bitch out. I think they are trying to kill us all via heart attack
(http://scienceblogs.com/thecheerfuloncologist/upload/2006/10/Cardinals%20win%20World%20Series%202006.jpg)
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Well I feel awful late to the party tonight... but I'm on "I'm Disappeared" right now, and on that note I might disappear myself and head to bed..... I do like what I hear so far though, and I don't get much of the "Irish pub" vibe thus far in..... though I guess I was expecting to hear an album to the tune of Ween's "Blarney Stone" hahah (which I do like from time to time!) True I hope you don't mind my substitute veggie sausage affinity overtaking your quote, that's just how I roll 8)
Goodnight ya'll, this lurker appreciates all the great recommends, til next week!
I noticed the veggie sausage immediately, before I read this post. i thought "hey! that's not what I posted!" I thought you were using subliminal persuasion.
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Where's Brian?
Watching the Cards. Pray for them!!
sweatin this bitch out. I think they are trying to kill us all via heart attack
(http://scienceblogs.com/thecheerfuloncologist/upload/2006/10/Cardinals%20win%20World%20Series%202006.jpg)
BOOYAH!!!
It really is a fantastic record. I strongly encourage those that enjoyed it to check out FT's other 3 albums. They are great as well. EKMB I feel is his most accomplished. So good
Quote from: YimBlaylock on Oct 12, 2011, 09:57 PM
Question, I may have missed something, but can someone tell me what the H and the C stand for on the album's cover? Obviously, FT is for Frank Turner, but those other two got me stumped.
I assumed the crossbones were some kind of ironic nod to his hardcore/post-hardcore past and merged his musical past with the 'to the bones' patriotism of the album.
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Quote from: YimBlaylock on Oct 12, 2011, 09:57 PM
Question, I may have missed something, but can someone tell me what the H and the C stand for on the album's cover? Obviously, FT is for Frank Turner, but those other two got me stumped.
I assumed the crossbones were some kind of ironic nod to his hardcore/post-hardcore past and merged his musical past with the 'to the bones' patriotism of the album.
From the Frank Turner website's FAQ section:
What does FTHC stand for? The HC stands for "hardcore". In the USA in the early 80's, each scene would have a little logo that'd be a cross with the initials LAHC (for Los Angeles), NYHC (for New York) and so on. So it's a little visual joke, and a nice logo for me.
Good call Ruckus!
Great in studio version
Frank Turner - If Ever I Stray (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPOPCAdCzRo#)
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Quote from: YimBlaylock on Oct 12, 2011, 09:57 PM
Question, I may have missed something, but can someone tell me what the H and the C stand for on the album's cover? Obviously, FT is for Frank Turner, but those other two got me stumped.
I assumed the crossbones were some kind of ironic nod to his hardcore/post-hardcore past and merged his musical past with the 'to the bones' patriotism of the album.
From the Frank Turner website's FAQ section:
What does FTHC stand for? The HC stands for "hardcore". In the USA in the early 80's, each scene would have a little logo that'd be a cross with the initials LAHC (for Los Angeles), NYHC (for New York) and so on. So it's a little visual joke, and a nice logo for me.
Good call Ruckus!
You know what? I think it may have been ewind that brought my attention to the meaning of the cross and HC. I had already known FT's musical background but I hadn't pieced the cover together until ewind made a jab at the hardcore cover in one of the other threads.
Finally got around to listening to this one all the way through at work today. I had played bits and pieces since Tuesday. This is a great, cohesive album. Stand-outs for me are Peggy, Rivers, Wessex, & Glory. I'll have to pick this one up!
Quote from: iLikeBeer on Oct 12, 2011, 10:23 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Oct 12, 2011, 10:20 PM
What makes the album for me is Glory Hallelujah as a closer to Eulogy as an opener. As a devout atheist, I cannot express enough the joy of having an anthem. I know he has to preface this track live everytime he plays it with a speech saying it's his time to say his peace.
So positive :)
My wife's sister and her VP of a local Oil Company husband are both fanatical Baptists as well as Fox News watching Tea Party wealthy Republicans and Glory Hallelujah is one song I would love to sit them down to listen to! :thumbsup: I get so fed up with having to listen to them act as though their beliefs are the ONLY true beliefs?! Close minded people suck!
Agree that closed minded people suck. Just don't fall into the trap of thinking all Christians are "Fox News watching Tea Party wealthy Republicans", or you will be just as closed minded as them. I am a believer, but I have far less patience for those types of Christians than I do for non-Christians, it's not even close.
I listened to this album on Spinner when it first came out. Thought it was pretty good, but the last song was obviously a turnoff for me. There were several other good albums out at the time, including Circuital, taking my attention so I didn't feel the urge to buy it. My sister-in-law saw him in concert last year and did shots with him afterward and said he was really cool (and she's a Christian too :)).
Quote from: marino13 on Oct 14, 2011, 02:01 PM
Agree that closed minded people suck. Just don't fall into the trap of thinking all Christians are "Fox News watching Tea Party wealthy Republicans", or you will be just as closed minded as them. I am a believer, but I have far less patience for those types of Christians than I do for non-Christians, it's not even close.
Oh. Trust me, I don't fall into that trap. I'm not an atheist myself but at the same time I have a hard time believing that one religion is better than another and to take it a step further, I have a hard time when I hear Christians bickering over which form of Christianity is better. My wife is Catholic and her sister (the Baptist) is constantly harping on us how Catholics aren't 'true' believers and that always bugs the shit out of me. IMO, a Christian should be a Christian whether they are Methodist, Presbyterian, Catholic or whatever. They are also very judgemental and my attitude is, unless you're perfect, you have nothing to be judgemental about! And I'm also not a regular church goer nor is my wife (we go with her mom on holidays and stuff) and I get so sick of hearing about how we need the structure of a church. I'm always reminded of a bumber sticker that read,
"If going to church makes you a Christian, does going to a garage make you a car?"
My biggest problem is judging other Christians for being judgmental to non-Christians, which I suppose makes me a bit of a hypocrite. 8)
Glad you guys enjoyed this one. Sorry I missed it, but I was busy being English at a London Stock Exchange awards dinner at the old Billingsgate Fish Market. Anyhoo, 3am UK time (and 9pm your time) saw me lurching through Picadilly Circus in black tie clutching a kebab. Happy days.
This album is one of the best of the year for me. I love Bragg, and I get some of his vibe from this. Also seems to be some folk-punk (Men They Couldn't Hang, Levellers) going on too.
Finally, I love Glory Hallelujah as a closer. I'm a pretty militant atheist; I mean, how many arguments and wars can you have over who has the best imaginary friend?
Quote from: MarkW on Oct 14, 2011, 06:56 PM
Glad you guys enjoyed this one. Sorry I missed it, but I was busy being English at a London Stock Exchange awards dinner at the old Billingsgate Fish Market. Anyhoo, 3am UK time (and 9pm your time) saw me lurching through Picadilly Circus in black tie clutching a kebab. Happy days.
This album is one of the best of the year for me. I love Bragg, and I get some of his vibe from this. Also seems to be some folk-punk (Men They Couldn't Hang, Levellers) going on too.
Finally, I love Glory Hallelujah as a closer. I'm a pretty militant atheist; I mean, how many arguments and wars can you have over who has the best imaginary friend?
;D
I mean, how many arguments and wars can you have over who has the best imaginary friend?
:dankk2:
Quote from: sweatboard on Oct 15, 2011, 02:06 AM
I mean, how many arguments and wars can you have over who has the best imaginary friend?
:dankk2:
Mark may have scored the comment of the year with that.
Yeah Mark, I didn't necessarily mean that there were too many similarities between Bragg and Turner. It was more a nod to my love of Bragg's music and an my lack of knowledge in the realm of English folk/punk. I didn't have much of a point of comparison and hence Bragg became that.
Let's hope this thread doesn't blow up into a digital Holy War ;D I jus keeding
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Quote from: mjk73 on Oct 15, 2011, 10:28 AM
Quote from: sweatboard on Oct 15, 2011, 02:06 AM
I mean, how many arguments and wars can you have over who has the best imaginary friend?
:dankk2:
Mark may have scored the comment of the year with that.
Can't claim it as my own - I think it was Yasser Arafat...
With a basic knowledge of what I was getting into with this album, I wasnt sure how much Id end up liking it. After a couple listens, I think it has a decent shot at my top 10 for 2011 in what I feel like is a kind of weak year so far, especially compared to last year. I cant really say much that hasnt already said. The bookends of the album are pretty fitting and well played, and overall I think the track order is great because you never get too many rockers or acoustic songs in a row which helps keep up the energy for the entire album and not saturated with 1 or the other for more than a couple songs. It wasnt as 'punk' as I expected, which was a good thing for me. I agree with the honesty that is apparent with the lyrics which allows FT to pull this off better than most. Although the album isnt short really (looks like about 45min), I was left wanting more by the end and thats always the testament of a good album. I'll have to download this mp3 folder somewhere so it can get more listens.
Favorite tracks: I Am Disappeared, Rivers, If I Ever Stray, Peggy Sang the Blues, Nights Become Days
Between Nick Drake and the acoustic songs here, I have an idea for an album for da club, although it wont be my first pick.