Anyone going?
Alienlanes and I are going. We just got lawns so I can dance around and not worry.
I'll be there. I'm in the 200s. Should be a dandy of a show.
Yay! Be sure to stop me and say hello if you spy me. I may wear my Roll Call laminate just because :cheesy: It'll be my secret signal to other cool MMJ nerds!
If I find myself wandering around the lawns, I'll be on the lookout for you.
i sincerely cannot grip this idea that i'll be seeing mmj at the amphitheatre tmw... 'tis a glorious day.
also, i am praying that we get Impossible Germany. if Wilco plays that in the night sky, i will be in the purest of paradisal states.
It's supposed to be a BEAAAAAUUUUTIFUL day tomorrow -- perfect for an evening with MMJ! And Wilco! And Dylan.
Toronto fans have been incredibly fortunate in that MMJ has given us a summer show for three years running now -- each one with a juicy and unique setlist! Here's hoping the trend continues tomorrow.
Richard Thompson shouldn't be overlooked. He's a legend in his own right.
Hopin' for a sit-in or two! I've been really digging this "Full House" Fairport Convention album the last few days.
Shoot Out the Lights with Richard and ex-wife Linda, often shows up on Best Albums of the 1970s lists. He also collaborated with Nick Drake.
This is fucking killer. No wonder he's considered one of the great guitarists:
Richard Thompson - Shoot Out The Lights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWUwcr7vdQ8#)
Looking forward to this! Third summer in a row for T.O., and the first time my old lady gets to experience The Jacket. Gonna be a wild night!
i'll be there! do we know what time MMJ goes on?
Per the Amp twitter account:
Doors: 5 pm
Richard Thompson: 5:30
My Morning Jacket: 6:15
Wilco: 7:55
Bob Dylan: 9:35
Can't wait! It's gonna be a beautiful night!
sweet! thanks!
it's going to be magical :)
Quote from: oistheone on Jul 14, 2013, 01:28 PM
Hopin' for a sit-in or two! I've been really digging this "Full House" Fairport Convention album the last few days.
:thumbsup:
There is also a live album from around that time called "House Full" It might be out of print, but its good.
You might also consider getting Unhalfbricking for A Sailor's Life, another great Brit folk-rock jam song or Liege and Lief for Tam Lin and other great songs. Those two had Sandy Denny on lead vocals and all had RT on lead guitar.
If you want more RT, a good set to start, IMO, would be the 3 disc Watching The Dark box set. A little bit of Fairport, but mostly post-Fairport RT stuff. We discussed this alot in the RT thread http://forum.mymorningjacket.com/index.php/topic,17450.msg329845.html#msg329845 (http://forum.mymorningjacket.com/index.php/topic,17450.msg329845.html#msg329845)
I've downed two pints of 7% Headstock IPA from Nickelbrook (good Ontario micro-brewery; yes my Yankee hop-head friends, you'd love it) and I'm taking the subway and streetcar down to the amphitheatre after I walk the dog. Can't wait!!!
Have fun! Report back.
How was it, gang?
My un-MMJ-innitiated brother and his friends are in attendance, and I'd love to know what sort of beast they were dealing with before I check-in and serve the koolaid!
They opened with Hell.
Quote from: Fully on Jul 15, 2013, 08:11 PM
They opened with Hell.
Nice. I've got a good friend there who hasn't seen MMJ since the Yum show. I'm sure he's psyched!
TWTHS
It beats
Circuital
Slow tune
Steam
Wordless
Tmpt1
Vd
smoking
Run thru
I Think I'm Going To Hell
The Way That He Sings
It Beats 4 U
Circuital
Slow Slow Tune
Steam Engine
Wordless Chorus
Jim banter, "Thanks to coming out to support us, thanks for giving us a chance. If you don't like us, who fuckin' cares?"
Touch Me Pt. 1
Victory Dance
Smokin' From Shootin'
end of Run Thru
Thanks to Leanne for the updates.
Dang, Fully, ya beat me. Mine's unabridged, however... :happy:
Quote from: johnnYYac on Jul 15, 2013, 08:20 PM
Dang, Fully, ya beat me. Mine's unabridged, however... :happy:
If you know what I mean. :wink:
Quote from: johnnYYac on Jul 15, 2013, 08:20 PM
Dang, Fully, ya beat me. Mine's unabridged, however... :happy:
Sorry to steal your thunder, Yaczilla. yours looks so much nicer than mine. I'm just enjoying this beautiful afternoon outdoors before school starts back in a couple of weeks.
No sweat. Sometimes short is sweet. In two weeks, I'm moving my world to fuckin' Iowa City, quite possible the worst place a MMJ fan could move to... HA! Then I begin the campaign, for Jim to face his demons, and give the people of Iowa City the show they never got.
Quote from: johnnYYac on Jul 15, 2013, 08:31 PM
No sweat. Sometimes short is sweet. In two weeks, I'm moving my world to fuckin' Iowa City, quite possible the worst place a MMJ fan could move to... HA! Then I begin the campaign, for Jim to face his demons, and give the people of Iowa City the show they never got.
Chicago is not far. This came up quickly.
I suppose we'll find out soon.
Jim and Jeff just sat in with Dylan. This is unreal. Oh, what a beautiful city!!
Quote from: oistheone on Jul 15, 2013, 11:12 PM
Jim and Jeff just sat in with Dylan. This is unreal. Oh, what a beautiful city!!
:shocked:
Wow this great, I hope something like this happens in a couple weeks. I hope no one left early and missed it.
WHAT A NIGHT!!! If I could put tonight into words, it would be: :shocked:
I knew I was in for an awesome night when the boys opened with "I Think I'm Going To Hell". They came out SWINGIN' and it got me MOVIN' -- which made for weird moments when I was rocking as hard as I've EVER rocked and nearly EVERYONE around me was sitting still as a stone. There were pockets of MMJ fans scattered throughout the floor -- easily spotted -- and I wanna say THANK YOU for giving MMJ the energy they needed to know they were appreciated! There were so few fans in the pit that I'm pretty sure each and every person who was rocking on that floor, Jim walked over to you and personally gave you a moment of acknowledgement. I know I got one at least. And so did my girlfriend. We were fucking rocking.
Circuital was done vocals-only by Jim. His acoustic was on the fritz tonight.
Steam Engine was fucking killer. And I'm in love with the new Jim-sax-coda arrangement of Victory Dance. Makes the song new again!
Also, Jim won banter of the night contest in a TKO.
Wilco was fucking awesome. Brought out Feist for two songs, one (I'm prettttty sure) being Suzanne by Leonard Cohen. Also closed with Cinnamon Girl avec MMJ who looked like they were having a BALL -- Carl especially! Great backups and handclaps!
And then Dylan. What can you say? I went in with such low expectations that Dylan would have to literally be the WORST SHOW IN THE HISTORY OF LIVE MUSIC to let me down. Well not only did he not suck, he was fuckin' cookin' with gas! I feel like an idiot for not being more excited. His band is truly a treat to listen to. The bass grooves were something else. The sound, so fucking crisp. Bob was all smiles all night. I think he knew he fucking slayed.
Jim and Jeff sat in on "Oh, What A Beautiful City", an old folk standard. It was fucking awesome. The whole crowd chanting "Oh What A Beautiful City!" in unison with Bob Dylan, Jim James and Jeff Tweedy. On the same stage for the first time ever. What a beautiful city indeed.
I was dancing my ass off at the front center of the lawn :) At first, not a single person stood. I looked at alienlanes and said, "I just can't sit through this" and got up and danced. Eventually he got up, too. Might have been a leg cramp, tho :tongue:
At the end of Smoking From Shooting, the last song, they wound back up and it sounded like they were going straight into Run Thru. I got really freaking excited, but then it was just the very last bit kind of drawn out a bit and then it ended. They tinkered for a second and it sounded like they were about to open a new song but they all popped up to the front of the stage and said thank you and good night.
I got the feeling that they lost themselves in the groove, went to start Run Thru and then maybe caught themselves and wrapped it or got a warning from the stage manager that they were out of time and to stop playing. Unless, of course, Smoking now has a false ending that starts back up and is actually the ending of Run Thru. :huh:
I was a bit embarrassed that I said Run Thru was starting and then, well, it didn't.
Great show. Wilco was awesome, but MMJ kicked their asses in terms of energy. Even the slower paced tunes were super compelling and danceable whereas a few of the Wilco numbers sounded kind of flat. The sound was awesome on the lawn. My friends in the middle seated section said the sound was a little muddy for them.
Between MMJ and Wilco I added 10 000 steps to my FitBit (my pedometer) and lost pounds and pounds of sweat. I'm still gulping down water trying to replenish.
I can't wait for Thursday when I get to introduce my boys to the band's live show. The seated area at Darien Lake is much smaller than in Toronto so I'll be a lot closer to the stage, thank goodness!
I've seen Smokin'>end of Run Thru many times, so what you saw has precedent. I find myself expecting that opening, those long-held guitar notes that is Run Thru, even when listening to the Evil Urges album.
It was the standard Smokin->end of Run Thru transition, but the boys were indeed hovering around the stage afterwards, looking they had planned to play more. The Omnichord was brought out and it looked like they were about to launch into Touch Me Pt. 2, but I guess their time was up. Probably jammed too hard on Steam Engine earlier!
A great show as always. A bit crappy that Jim's guitar wouldn't work during Circuital, but Bo picked things up nicely there...and they were definitely cut off from playing Touch Me Pt. 2. The sample had started, the omni was out and Jim's flying V was also brought on stage and set down by the kit...oh well. From a show runner's perspective it was definitely the right time to cut them off in order to change over for Wilco who was due on at 7:55....
My wife and I left about half way through Dylan so we missed the bob, jeff and jim moment...them's the breaks with a pup at home.
great night overall. it was my first time seeing Wilco and they were amazing.
So what I wanna know is how this Dylan/Jeff/Jim sit-in went down. Was last night the first time Jim has even met Dylan? Dylan was positively beaming after the song, and heartily embraced both Jim and Jeff with powerful hugs, saying "great job guys, great job!"
Man, what an awesome night.
The Wilco/MMJ finale was awesome, an ode to Canada with "Cinnamon Girl"! Feist and MMJ did indeed do another Canadian classic, Cohen's "Suzanne".
Quote from: oistheone on Jul 16, 2013, 10:34 AM
So what I wanna know is how this Dylan/Jeff/Jim sit-in went down. Was last night the first time Jim has even met Dylan? Dylan was positively beaming after the song, and heartily embraced both Jim and Jeff with powerful hugs, saying "great job guys, great job!"
Man, what an awesome night.
I may have to stay for Dylan next week
Also, I realize it's a long shot, but if anyone has an extra poster, or just one they wouldn't mind selling, please let me know! Thanks!
I definitely understand wanting a show poster, but I have to admit I was underwhelmed and even disappointed in the official ones on sale (for $35!) last night. I had seen a poster from a different show on the tour and was hoping for something more interesting than a text only poster.
Yeah, I'm not crazy about the poster itself, but after getting blown the fuck away by the entire show, I realized I would definitely like some sort of memento!
Quote from: LeanneP on Jul 16, 2013, 11:38 AM
I definitely understand wanting a show poster, but I have to admit I was underwhelmed and even disappointed in the official ones on sale (for $35!) last night. I had seen a poster from a different show on the tour and was hoping for something more interesting than a text only poster.
Leanne, I don't think that was an "official" poster that was made for one of the previous shows. I think it was sold outside of the venue and not at the actual merch stand. I hear you though, I wish the official ones were nicer. However a plus is at least this way I don't feel the need to buy two for the show I go to just to get the different venue names on them. One's enough. I'm also glad MMJ and Wilco didn't take it upon themselves to make their own because I would definitely buy one from each for both shows. Money saved! :smiley:
Quote from: oistheone on Jul 16, 2013, 12:59 AM
WHAT A NIGHT!!! If I could put tonight into words, it would be: :shocked:
I knew I was in for an awesome night when the boys opened with "I Think I'm Going To Hell". They came out SWINGIN' and it got me MOVIN' -- which made for weird moments when I was rocking as hard as I've EVER rocked and nearly EVERYONE around me was sitting still as a stone. There were pockets of MMJ fans scattered throughout the floor -- easily spotted -- and I wanna say THANK YOU for giving MMJ the energy they needed to know they were appreciated! There were so few fans in the pit that I'm pretty sure each and every person who was rocking on that floor, Jim walked over to you and personally gave you a moment of acknowledgement. I know I got one at least. And so did my girlfriend. We were fucking rocking.
Circuital was done vocals-only by Jim. His acoustic was on the fritz tonight.
Steam Engine was fucking killer. And I'm in love with the new Jim-sax-coda arrangement of Victory Dance. Makes the song new again!
Also, Jim won banter of the night contest in a TKO.
Wilco was fucking awesome. Brought out Feist for two songs, one (I'm prettttty sure) being Suzanne by Leonard Cohen. Also closed with Cinnamon Girl avec MMJ who looked like they were having a BALL -- Carl especially! Great backups and handclaps!
And then Dylan. What can you say? I went in with such low expectations that Dylan would have to literally be the WORST SHOW IN THE HISTORY OF LIVE MUSIC to let me down. Well not only did he not suck, he was fuckin' cookin' with gas! I feel like an idiot for not being more excited. His band is truly a treat to listen to. The bass grooves were something else. The sound, so fucking crisp. Bob was all smiles all night. I think he knew he fucking slayed.
Jim and Jeff sat in on "Oh, What A Beautiful City", an old folk standard. It was fucking awesome. The whole crowd chanting "Oh What A Beautiful City!" in unison with Bob Dylan, Jim James and Jeff Tweedy. On the same stage for the first time ever. What a beautiful city indeed.
Awesome review, O! Good for you for letting your freak flag fly even when most around you were oblivious to the awesomeness they were hearing and out of step with getting into the show. The bands definitely feed off folks like you and I'm sure they wish everyone were that into it. I know all too well what its like to be in your position. A good rock show is just like a good party, the more people totally getting into it, the better it is and everyone has a good time. Why is that such a strange concept to audiences these days?
would be cool to see the dylan/tweedy/jim thing to go on till the end of the tour..
Quote from: Shug on Jul 16, 2013, 01:05 PM
Awesome review, O! Good for you for letting your freak flag fly even when most around you were oblivious to the awesomeness they were hearing and out of step with getting into the show. The bands definitely feed off folks like you and I'm sure they wish everyone were that into it. I know all too well what its like to be in your position. A good rock show is just like a good party, the more people totally getting into it, the better it is and everyone has a good time. Why is that such a strange concept to audiences these days?
Hear, hear Shug! In addition to the lame crowd around me, I also had to deal with pit security who continually told me to sit down throughout MMJ and Wilco. Any time they told me to sit down, I kindly replied "fuck that!" and I'd groove away from security, like some sort of freaky concert-going nomad, bustin' my moves wherever I could.
Jim had an awesome bit about the awkward crowd vibe that went something like this:
"Good morning everyone! Thanks for waking up and coming to see us. When you play an early gig like this, it's weird. You've got three types of people in the audience. The first type fucking LOVE everything you do and are on their feet going CRAZY the whole time. [Cue big cheers from me and the other dozen MMJ fans in the pit] The second type sit there stone-faced with their arms crossed, thinking 'Ehh, these guys are alllllriiiiight'. The third type are like 'NOOOO fuckin' way man, these guys fuckin' suck!' And to them I say, we're almost done anyway, so who fuckin' cares?!"
That banter alone won over some haters. God bless this band.
Bingham joins the tour on Thursday. The Toronto show was Richard Thompson's last night of the tour.
And what a night it was! I feel so fortunate to have seen Richard Thompson on this tour. I feel "Sloth" was MADE for a Richard Thompson/Nels Cline duel!
Btw, probably 11,000 at the show, perhaps more.
Quote from: Jaimoe on Jul 15, 2013, 03:23 PM
I've downed two pints of 7% Headstock IPA from Nickelbrook (good Ontario micro-brewery; yes my Yankee hop-head friends, you'd love it) and I'm taking the subway and streetcar down to the amphitheatre after I walk the dog. Can't wait!!!
What, Jamoie! You're torturing me. If you remember, when I visited Toronto to see the Jacket in 2011 every establishment in Toronto had run dry of IPAs upon my arrival. It was bizarre.
Hope you enjoyed the show. I still remember vividly being on the rail at the Kool Haus show which was right up against the band. Great show!
Quote from: Jaimoe on Jul 08, 2013, 01:49 PM
I'll be there. I'm in the 200s. Should be a dandy of a show.
Is this the same Jaimoe from the jambands.ca board like 10 years ago?
:thumbsup:
Quote from: alienlanes on Jul 16, 2013, 11:24 PM
Quote from: Jaimoe on Jul 08, 2013, 01:49 PM
I'll be there. I'm in the 200s. Should be a dandy of a show.
Is this the same Jaimoe from the jambands.ca board like 10 years ago?
:thumbsup:
Yes. I'm still on there, but nothing really tickles my fancy anymore, so I don't post that often. I'm going to Phish, reluctantly, next Monday. Who you be?
As for Monday's concert, it was a good one overall. Opener (and night-long part-time sideman) Richard Thompson was fantastic. He's an incredibly innovative guitarist and good songwriter. There's a reason why he's considered a bona fide guitar god. He was in a surly mood, perhaps annoyed that a living legend in his own right was the warm-up act. Still, his 45-set delivered.
MMJ didn't disappoint. They were rather ballsy in choosing not to play their tried-and-true crowd-pleasing anthems such as "One Big Holiday" and "Lay Low" given most of the surprisngly big Molson Amphitheatre crowd weren't there to see them. Instead, their setlist was fairly eclectic. It started off laidback, but got pretty energetic around 20-minutes in; they played for around 75-minutes. I spied several rows of grey-hairs sitting behind me (obviously there to see Dylan) had looks on their faces that ranged from confusion to agitation to outright disgust during "Victory Dance" and "Run Thru". In other words, Jimmy and the boys put on one fucking great show! I think they also were able to convert many folks that showed up early too, so mission accomplished.
Wilco were Wilco, although more low-key and less-experimental than I expected. I loved the two ode to Canada duets with Toronto's Feist (I prefer her solo as oppossed to her work with also of Broken Social Scene). "California Stars", "I Got You (At the End of the Century)" (I think they played this Being There standout the only other time I saw them live nearly 20 years ago) and another nod to Canada and Toronto, set closer "Cinnamon Girl", with Thompson and MMJ. I think Jeff Tweddy and company kept things a little more folkier so to not show-up Dylan; although, in the end, MMJ and Wilco did show up Dylan.
The large venue on the shores of Lake Ontario filled up nicely by the time Dylan hit the stage. Bobby was in a good mood and sounded more enthusiastic than he's been in past tours (I've only seen him in concert around 6 times, spread out since the mid '80s). I still had a tough time recognizing most of his songs (e.g., "Tangled Up in Blue" and "All Along the Watchtower"), but the diehards didn't care. They cheered loudly after every monotone mumble. To them I think Dylan gets a free pass for life. Heck, if anyone deserves this kind of respect, its folk music's most important artists.
Quote from: Jaimoe on Jul 17, 2013, 07:20 AM
Quote from: alienlanes on Jul 16, 2013, 11:24 PM
Quote from: Jaimoe on Jul 08, 2013, 01:49 PM
I'll be there. I'm in the 200s. Should be a dandy of a show.
Is this the same Jaimoe from the jambands.ca board like 10 years ago?
:thumbsup:
Yes. I'm still on there, but nothing really tickles my fancy anymore, so I don't post that often. I'm going to Phish, reluctantly, next Monday. Who you be?
As for Monday's concert, it was a good one overall. Opener (and night-long part-time sideman) Richard Thompson was fantastic. He's an incredibly innovative guitarist and good songwriter. There's a reason why he's considered a bona fide guitar god. He was in a surly mood, perhaps annoyed that a living legend in his own right was the warm-up act. Still, his 45-set delivered.
MMJ didn't disappoint. They were rather ballsy in choosing not to play their tried-and-true crowd-pleasing anthems such as "One Big Holiday" and "Lay Low" given most of the surprisngly big Molson Amphitheatre crowd weren't there to see them. Instead, their setlist was fairly eclectic. It started off laidback, but got pretty energetic around 20-minutes in; they played for around 75-minutes. I spied several rows of grey-hairs sitting behind me (obviously there to see Dylan) had looks on their faces that ranged from confusion to agitation to outright disgust during "Victory Dance" and "Run Thru". In other words, Jimmy and the boys put on one fucking great show! I think they also were able to convert many folks that showed up early too, so mission accomplished.
Wilco were Wilco, although more low-key and less-experimental than I expected. I loved the two ode to Canada duets with Toronto's Feist (I prefer her solo as oppossed to her work with also of Broken Social Scene). "California Stars", "I Got You (At the End of the Century)" (I think they played this Being There standout the only other time I saw them live nearly 20 years ago) and another nod to Canada and Toronto, set closer "Cinnamon Girl", with Thompson and MMJ. I think Jeff Tweddy and company kept things a little more folkier so to not show-up Dylan; although, in the end, MMJ and Wilco did show up Dylan.
The large venue on the shores of Lake Ontario filled up nicely by the time Dylan hit the stage. Bobby was in a good mood and sounded more enthusiastic than he's been in past tours (I've only seen him in concert around 6 times, spread out since the mid '80s). I still had a tough time recognizing most of his songs (e.g., "Tangled Up in Blue" and "All Along the Watchtower"), but the diehards didn't care. They cheered loudly after every monotone mumble. To them I think Dylan gets a free pass for life. Heck, if anyone deserves this kind of respect, its folk music's most important artists.
We had a similar experience in Tuscaloosa, O. The first three rows had paid extra to get those seats, but they were all filled with Dylan fans who didn't want to stand. Scosby, Evan, and I were the first row on our side standing. I know Jon T. Was representing where he was as well. I remember looking around at one point and saw some hipster girl and her boyfriend just sitting and looking at us like we were freaks for enjoying ourselves. I proceeded to dance more. Gave me a little extra energy. I'm glad you got such an awesome show!
Quote from: Fully on Jul 17, 2013, 09:14 AM
I remember looking around at one point and saw some hipster girl and her boyfriend just sitting and looking at us like we were freaks for enjoying ourselves. I proceeded to dance more. Gave me a little extra energy. I'm glad you got such an awesome show!
This is just one of the reasons I think you're totally AWESOME! :cool: :thumbsup:
I'd be proud to be standing/dancing next to you anytime. :beer:
Major props to the Union of Those Who Dance When No One Else Does! Proud to be a longstanding member of the local.
Man, I need a taping of this show. Lost in all the madness of the Dylan sit-in and the lameness of the Toronto crowd was just how much MMJ killed. The bizarre, early, lame-crowd vibe made for a show unlike any other MMJ show I've seen -- weirdly, uniquely awesome. I feel like opening with "I Think I'm Going To Hell" was a nice 'fuck you' to all the haters and a huuuuge pat on the back to the few die-hards. They looked so uncomfortable up there at first, but they didn't miss a beat musically, Jim sounding as strong vocally as he ever has.
Before I got told to stop grooving for the first time, it felt as if they were playing just for me. For those who have experienced that sensation, you know just how amazing it feels. There really is truth to the sentiment that MMJ plays just as hard whether they're playing for 10 people or 10,000.
I know I said it earlier, but "Steam Engine" was something else! Looked like they were going extra hard on that song in particular -- to really please the few diehards, to sell themselves to those on the fence, and to further piss off those who weren't digging it at all. Carl looked like he was about to die up there during the coda, blowin' his guts out in temperatures that soared over 100 degrees. I've seen this song six or seven times now, some versions extremely epic, but this one might have been my favorite because of the extreme swagger with which they played it.
The tweet from Patrick just perfectly sums up the show. I'm glad they actually noticed the few of us that were rocking. Maybe my bright red Louisville shirt helped -- or maybe it was me and my girlfriend's erratic dance moves. Either way, I hope they realize it was just a weird slot and they don't get scared off Toronto forever!
Quote from: oistheone on Jul 17, 2013, 09:58 AM
Either way, I hope they realize it was just a weird slot and they don't get scared off Toronto forever!
The "lame" crowd you speak of seemed to be more in pockets throughout the venue. Historically, multi-bills attract lame crowds since nobody loves all the bands equally and dancing in the blasted heat of the day probably weighed in (also, the crowd was made up of Dylan fans, and they don't dance). MMJ was a minor player at this one, and they graciously accepted and ran with it. I've seen MMJ many times, all in Toronto, and the crowds have been good to great (Ottawa folks such as yourself always think Toronto crowds suck, which was once true, but it ain't the case anymore, for the most part). Even though folks sat down, as they almost always do at most places with physical seating, the response was generally really good.
They'll be back. Jim loves Toronto and MMJ's crowds are getting bigger with each tour.
BTW, one more cool thing about the show was seeing Booker Prize-winning author Michael Ondaaje (The English Patient, Coming Through Slaughter and 2011's The Cat's Table) rocking it out to Wilco and Dylan.
how is the crowd with MMJ? Are there pockets of fans dancing around the venue or pretty much just in the pit area. I'm sure a lot of dylan fans will be sitting the ENTIRE show..
Quote from: bartel on Jul 17, 2013, 10:30 AM
how is the crowd with MMJ? Are there pockets of fans dancing around the venue or pretty much just in the pit area. I'm sure a lot of dylan fans will be sitting the ENTIRE show..
To add to my above post, the Jacket fans dance (I hate dancing, but grooved was they warmed up). Dylan fans, the older ones that make up the core of the audience, don't dance, which no doubt didn't inspire mamy fence-sitters to get off their butts.
Quote from: Jaimoe on Jul 17, 2013, 10:33 AM
Quote from: bartel on Jul 17, 2013, 10:30 AM
how is the crowd with MMJ? Are there pockets of fans dancing around the venue or pretty much just in the pit area. I'm sure a lot of dylan fans will be sitting the ENTIRE show..
To add to my above post, the Jacket fans dance (I hate dancing, but grooved was they warmed up). Dylan fans, the older ones that make up the core of the audience, don't dance, which no doubt didn't inspire mamy fence-sitters to get off their butts.
originally when I saw the bill I thought what wilco fan wouldn't enjoy MMJ and what dylan fan wouldn't love MMJ etc... sadly not as much crossover as I thought.
Ottawa folks like myself? I ain't from Ottawa dude. I've never even been there.
I'm talking about the lame crowd in the pit. The crowd that the band sees right in front of them. During MMJ, there were maybe fifteen people standing in the pit, and that's a gracious estimate. I realize that it was hot. I realize that it was early. And I realize that they were playing for a lot of Dylan fans that "don't dance" -- though during Dylan, there was plenty of boogie goin' on down low. I wish I had pictures of the tranced-out hippie circle next to me to prove it. But during MMJ, I was up on my feet and grooving, and I got told to stop, move and/or sit down several times. By my estimate, that is as fucking lame as it gets.
But hey, I still had an amazing time. The true sign of music triumphing circumstances.
Quote from: bartel on Jul 17, 2013, 10:41 AM
Quote from: Jaimoe on Jul 17, 2013, 10:33 AM
Quote from: bartel on Jul 17, 2013, 10:30 AM
how is the crowd with MMJ? Are there pockets of fans dancing around the venue or pretty much just in the pit area. I'm sure a lot of dylan fans will be sitting the ENTIRE show..
To add to my above post, the Jacket fans dance (I hate dancing, but grooved was they warmed up). Dylan fans, the older ones that make up the core of the audience, don't dance, which no doubt didn't inspire mamy fence-sitters to get off their butts.
originally when I saw the bill I thought what wilco fan wouldn't enjoy MMJ and what dylan fan wouldn't love MMJ etc... sadly not as much crossover as I thought.
It's not the crossover, it's just few know MMJ and older Dylan fans are there to see Dylan. Wilco on their own can fill smaller arenas (I think they will at one point fill the 16,000 Molson Amphitheatre as headliners, but that time hasn't come yet).
Quote from: oistheone on Jul 17, 2013, 10:49 AM
Ottawa folks like myself? I ain't from Ottawa dude. I've never even been there.
I'm talking about the lame crowd in the pit. The crowd that the band sees right in front of them. During MMJ, there were maybe fifteen people standing in the pit, and that's a gracious estimate. I realize that it was hot. I realize that it was early. And I realize that they were playing for a lot of Dylan fans that "don't dance" -- though during Dylan, there was plenty of boogie goin' on down low. I wish I had pictures of the tranced-out hippie circle next to me to prove it. But during MMJ, I was up on my feet and grooving, and I got told to stop, move and/or sit down several times. By my estimate, that is as fucking lame as it gets.
But hey, I still had an amazing time. The true sign of music triumphing circumstances.
Sorry about the false Ottawa dig. Someone on this site is from Ottawa and it's clearly not you (they dig on T.O. all the time, like every city in Canada does).
They often don't have seats down in the 100 level, but I'm not surprised that people were sitting during the show. Dylan ain't a guy that gets his fans out of their seats, unless for ovations. Ottawa Bluesfest suffers the same fate.
A bit of video from the Dylan/James/Tweedy collab:
http://pitchfork.com/news/51571-watch-bob-dylan-plays-live-with-wilcos-jeff-tweedy-my-morning-jackets-jim-james/ (http://pitchfork.com/news/51571-watch-bob-dylan-plays-live-with-wilcos-jeff-tweedy-my-morning-jackets-jim-james/)
I definitely danced my ass off on the lawn. Everyone was sitting, our boys came out on stage and I turned to Alienlanes and said, "we're not sitting. I gotta dance. I just can't sit through this." That bugger sat on his ass for about 30 minutes but I got up and furiously danced despite the crippling heat - I kept wiping sweat off my eyelashes, thank goodness for waterproof mascara! and midway through Steam Engine, a former client ran up from the 200s and gave me her hat!
At first noone on the lawn was was dancing or even standing but most people at least stood by mid set and a few started dancing. I mentioned elsewhere that there was a shitty crowd of Thornhill Trustafarians/Richsters right behind us who kept snagging more jerks to yammer with but there was a group to our left who freaked out, too, and ended up all buying matching Bear shirts. They sat down during Wilco (too bad, props to Wilco for being awesome unto themselves) so I was kinda happy that they were so enthusiastic for the Jacket.
I think Toronto's bad show rep really only applies to shows you can see for $20 or less like at the Horseshoe where the indier-than-thou crowd stares with an air of calculated boredom at all bands, never dance and never clap.
Quote from: LeanneP on Jul 17, 2013, 11:24 PM
I think Toronto's bad show rep really only applies to shows you can see for $20 or less like at the Horseshoe where the indier-than-thou crowd stares with an air of calculated boredom at all bands, never dance and never clap.
this is 100% true. My band plays most of its shows to that crowd and its impossible to tell if anyone is enjoying it. it's tough, but the only thing you can do is rock out and have fun yourself.
Quote from: GO4IT on Jul 16, 2013, 10:13 PM
Quote from: Jaimoe on Jul 15, 2013, 03:23 PM
I've downed two pints of 7% Headstock IPA from Nickelbrook (good Ontario micro-brewery; yes my Yankee hop-head friends, you'd love it) and I'm taking the subway and streetcar down to the amphitheatre after I walk the dog. Can't wait!!!
What, Jamoie! You're torturing me. If you remember, when I visited Toronto to see the Jacket in 2011 every establishment in Toronto had run dry of IPAs upon my arrival. It was bizarre.
Hope you enjoyed the show. I still remember vividly being on the rail at the Kool Haus show which was right up against the band. Great show!
Even though it was only two years ago, there's oodles of new Ontario IPAs on the market.
BTW, Toronto wasn't out of IPAs. I think you just go unlucky and didn't know the different brand. Also, I think you told me that didn't visit any of our fine LCBOs (government-run liquor store) or any of our Beer Stores? Next time make it your first stop. Yes, Kool Haus was a great show!
We may have been spread out in pockets, but I'm so glad that no matter where we were sitting, the true MMJ fans DID show up to support! And hey, even if Jim did notice that some people were thinking "these guys fuckin' suck!", at least it seems he's taking a liking to our "beautiful city" judging by his Twitter posts. As of last night, he was still in town! And you couldn't have picked a better few days to spend here.
BTW, I love that video of "Twelve Gates to the City" so much. It perfectly captures the confusion that the audience had during the singalong. "Oh, what a beautiful city" was an easy enough refrain, but I remember having no idea what the final lines of the chorus were, and the video captures that no one else really did either. :grin:
Some of the best crowds in my 30-years of going to concerts have been in Toronto: The Who, The Stones, Arcade Fire, Ray Davies, Dead Weather, White Stripes, Phish, Allman Brothers, Son Seals, B.B. King, Down From the Mountain, Stooges, Neil Young, Television, Black Crowes, Bob Dylan (early 90s), MMJ, Soundtrack Of Our Lives, Ben Harper, Sinead O'Connor (during her hardcore reggae phase), Death From Above and so on.
The Horseshoe and other small venues are a mixed bag to be sure. If you are lucky to see a red-hot up-and-comer in one of the small clubs, those shows usually rock.
On a related note, if you ever watch old footage or look at old photos of concerts from the '60s through to the '80s (and beyond), you'll notice a common theme: folks en masse seated during shows.
Quote from: ericm on Jul 17, 2013, 09:22 AM
Quote from: Fully on Jul 17, 2013, 09:14 AM
I remember looking around at one point and saw some hipster girl and her boyfriend just sitting and looking at us like we were freaks for enjoying ourselves. I proceeded to dance more. Gave me a little extra energy. I'm glad you got such an awesome show!
This is just one of the reasons I think you're totally AWESOME! :cool: :thumbsup:
I'd be proud to be standing/dancing next to you anytime. :beer:
Anytime, Ericm, any place!
That was my second MMJ concert, and their set was easily the highlight of the night for me.
Quote from: oistheone on Jul 16, 2013, 12:59 AM
There were so few fans in the pit that I'm pretty sure each and every person who was rocking on that floor, Jim walked over to you and personally gave you a moment of acknowledgement.
During Victory Dance Jim and I locked eyes and sang to each other for maybe 5 seconds...best 5 seconds ever!! hahaha