Is it early to start wondering about when the 2nd album will arrive? They are touring pretty hard for the rest of the year but maybe give us a Wilco type surprise christmas release???
I could be totally making this up but I thought I heard April.
I feel like I read April somewhere also.
But wondering about the release date isn't the kind of speculating I was hoping for. Now what will this new album sound like, that's what I want to get in to. Will it be a mellow continuation of The Waterfall? Did they hold over all the heavy grooves? Who cares, it's just gonna add to their outstanding body of work regardless.
Now, back to your regularly scheduled posts...
Quote from: amskinz on Jul 20, 2015, 06:47 PM
I feel like I read April somewhere also.
But wondering about the release date isn't the kind of speculating I was hoping for. Now what will this new album sound like, that's what I want to get in to. Will it be a mellow continuation of The Waterfall? Did they hold over all the heavy grooves? Who cares, it's just gonna add to their outstanding body of work regardless.
Now, back to your regularly scheduled posts...
I think I remember Jim saying that the next album was gonna be more "dancey"
I can already dance to most of their stuff anyway
I, think, I remembered an interview and Jim saying - early 2016
Don't give too much credence to a faulty memory though...and I've bumped my head hard a few times. :smiley:
They recorded ~20 songs all at once at Stinson Beach- 10 ended up on the Waterfall with 2 bonus tracks- I think I remember Jim saying recently they have just a little more work to do for the new album. But yes, he also said that it would be more funky-dance-spacey... Different from the Waterfall for sure!
I just hope this means they'll go on another massive tour next summer :)
hopefully soon. I have a feeling it will be longer than they originally eluded to but ya never know.
My hope is that it will be two spring releases in a row.
Quote from: gardenparty on Jul 22, 2015, 11:35 AM
hopefully soon. I have a feeling it will be longer than they originally eluded to but ya never know.
My hope is that it will be two spring releases in a row.
i definitely think the April release timeline was optimistic. I imagine the way they feel about some songs will change, they might have some new ideas for songs. So, while it will be '16. I imagine it might be closer to June. Just speculating...
I hope that after all the touring they are more in the mood for more little for more rock rather than dancey songs
I wouldn't be surprised if it's delayed til 2017. Especially if they come up with some new stuff while touring and, as mentioned, they reevaluate the songs they've recorded and maybe decide to change them up a little. Time changes your perspective on stuff like that.
There is a downside to 2 new LPs in such a short time: if they do release it next spring and then go on tour, the setlists could be almost all new stuff, with little room for the oldies. Judging by their current setlists, they are playing anywhere from 6 up to 10 Waterfall songs in a 22 song set. Imagine if they kept that ratio for the new LP's tour - there wouldn't be much room left for anything pre-Circuital. I'm sure they would work some in, but I'd have doubts about getting any truly deep cuts. I already have that nowadays unless I'm attending a multi night run. Then again it's just the nature of the beast, supporting your new LP.
I'd really like to see them tour independent of an LP and go crazy without feeling they have to play the new stuff. Those type shows, those have craziest, best set variations
Let me preface this by saying that I love wildly speculating. :grin:
It doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility that MMJ could be the backing band on an upcoming Roger Waters tour, possibly in support of his new album which could also feature MMJ. This would probably delay the release of the next MMJ album. Either way, I think I would be surprised if their next album actually came out in the spring. An EP or even a series of EP's could be cool though...
Or they pull a Wilco and just drop a new album without warning.
Quote from: getinthevan on Jul 25, 2015, 02:01 PM
Let me preface this by saying that I love wildly speculating. :grin:
It doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility that MMJ could be the backing band on an upcoming Roger Waters tour, possibly in support of his new album which could also feature MMJ. This would probably delay the release of the next MMJ album. Either way, I think I would be surprised if their next album actually came out in the spring. An EP or even a series of EP's could be cool though...
Or they pull a Wilco and just drop a new album without warning.
I'd be really annoyed with them for doing a Roger Waters backing tour, A) Jim needs his back to be rested when not on tour with MMJ, touring with MMJ is hard enough B) Why let him get hurt more from overwork when they could be chilling from December to late Spring or early Summer even to flesh out the new songs and relax and hopefully build up the strength to again play 3 hour shows or at least 2 hour 40 minute ones. You just cant get enough Jacket in only 21 songs guys, lets be honest. And I'd sorta be bummed to see a show that say had 28 songs and i was all excited thinking wow we're gonna get at least 12-13 deep cuts / white whales and then bam! its 8 from The Waterfall, 10 from the New One and 8 more warhorses like Wordless, Lay Low, OBH, and then maybe 2 songs a night being truly rarely played.....I mean its really really really fucking hard to be angry or annoyed or even bummed about any show MMJ play.
A surprise release would be interesting, considering MMJ love to play up the mysticism and zany part of their legend.
I just hope we get an album thats:
1. Weird and not afraid to go over the edge
2. Lots of Guitars :)
3. Lots of Carl backing vocals
4. Jim wailing away
5. A couple epic songs
6. Maybe some prog rock mixed with trance sound in the bourbon flavored Jacket way :)
It was initially hinted for April 2016. There were other hints it might be released in the fall of 2015. More music for shows is a double edged sword, as it dilutes the old stuff/covers live, but there is no real downside to new MMJ. I think a specifically dance oriented album is fantastic.
Quote from: rincon2 on Jul 25, 2015, 08:22 PM
More music for shows is a double edged sword, as it dilutes the old stuff/covers live, but there is no real downside to new MMJ. I think a specifically dance oriented album is fantastic.
^^^^^^^^^^
Nailed it
http://mymorningjacket.net/index.php/topic,19265.0.html
LEO: From the sessions from "The Waterfall," you guys have another record in the bag, right?
JJ: Yeah, about 70 percent of one.
LEO: Is this next record related to "The Waterfall" conceptually in any way or will it completely stand on its own?
JJ: It's completely different. I have a ton of demos and we kind of went into ["The Waterfall" sessions] with no goal, no timeframe, no conceptual idea. We just wanted to go somewhere and start playing songs and let the chips fall where they may.
March/April 2016 - more heavy touring, hitting the markets and fests they missed this year, then OBH3 finish line Jan/Feb 2017. and then a nice vacation for these hard working dudes!!!
I think they should call it "The Evaporation" to continue the circuital theme.
(http://media.yeutretho.com//anh-tre-tho/2010/03/19/waterCycle.gif)
Quote from: BH on Jul 27, 2015, 04:50 PM
I think they should call it "The Evaporation" to continue the circuital theme.
(http://media.yeutretho.com//anh-tre-tho/2010/03/19/waterCycle.gif)
Yes! So then there would HAVE to be two more albums: "The Condensation," followed by "The Precipitation"!
hahahahah what the fuck Crispy and BH? you guys are craaaaaazy!
i think the album will be very trippy and use a ton of effects as iconic moments, like a delayed keyboard part begins swirling around the listener slowly (like the omnichord on Touch Me II), stuff like that. I'm hoping dancy means COBRA style insanity, not really a re-tread of Touch Me II and that era. they already have dance songs, and they happen to get better night after night with the new jams!
something in the middle of long guitar majesties like Only Memories / I Will Sing U / Rollin Back / Steam Engine / Phone would be awesome, and add a little soul and a little prog and you cut out the acoustic ditty novelties and we'll be perfect!
but really whatever they do...WILL BE
Quote from: millerjustin on Jul 27, 2015, 12:54 PM
March/April 2016 - more heavy touring, hitting the markets and fests they missed this year, then OBH3 finish line Jan/Feb 2017. and then a nice vacation for these hard working dudes!!!
That totally makes sense. But I can't think of a market in the US that they missed this year. Maine? Indy? Living in DC, I can argue that MPP is a Baltimore show and that a run at the Warner Theater would be super fantastic.
Quote from: APR on Jul 30, 2015, 03:38 PM
Quote from: millerjustin on Jul 27, 2015, 12:54 PM
March/April 2016 - more heavy touring, hitting the markets and fests they missed this year, then OBH3 finish line Jan/Feb 2017. and then a nice vacation for these hard working dudes!!!
That totally makes sense. But I can't think of a market in the US that they missed this year. Maine? Indy? Living in DC, I can argue that MPP is a Baltimore show and that a run at the Warner Theater would be super fantastic.
The Mann in Philly, Mountain Jam, Canandaigua (CMAC), The Cap in Port Chester, multi-night RR's, lots of others that I can't think of right now
Quote from: millerjustin on Jul 31, 2015, 03:10 PM
Quote from: APR on Jul 30, 2015, 03:38 PM
Quote from: millerjustin on Jul 27, 2015, 12:54 PM
March/April 2016 - more heavy touring, hitting the markets and fests they missed this year, then OBH3 finish line Jan/Feb 2017. and then a nice vacation for these hard working dudes!!!
That totally makes sense. But I can't think of a market in the US that they missed this year. Maine? Indy? Living in DC, I can argue that MPP is a Baltimore show and that a run at the Warner Theater would be super fantastic.
The Mann in Philly, Mountain Jam, Canandaigua (CMAC), The Cap in Port Chester, multi-night RR's, lots of others that I can't think of right now
Camden is pretty much Philly, but the others make sense. Maybe they will have a date at the Gorge in Oregon, that's always a place I have wanted to see them play. Also they could hit up Locken in VA as that is one fest they have never done and it continually has a lineup I think they would enjoy and maybe share the stage with.
Quote from: manonthemoon on Aug 01, 2015, 01:36 PM
Quote from: millerjustin on Jul 31, 2015, 03:10 PM
Quote from: APR on Jul 30, 2015, 03:38 PM
Quote from: millerjustin on Jul 27, 2015, 12:54 PM
March/April 2016 - more heavy touring, hitting the markets and fests they missed this year, then OBH3 finish line Jan/Feb 2017. and then a nice vacation for these hard working dudes!!!
That totally makes sense. But I can't think of a market in the US that they missed this year. Maine? Indy? Living in DC, I can argue that MPP is a Baltimore show and that a run at the Warner Theater would be super fantastic.
The Mann in Philly, Mountain Jam, Canandaigua (CMAC), The Cap in Port Chester, multi-night RR's, lots of others that I can't think of right now
Camden is pretty much Philly, but the others make sense. Maybe they will have a date at the Gorge in Oregon, that's always a place I have wanted to see them play. Also they could hit up Locken in VA as that is one fest they have never done and it continually has a lineup I think they would enjoy and maybe share the stage with.
The Gorge is in Washington state. In fact, the Gorge is in George, Washington.
Not sure they'd be a good match for the Gorge, it's a large venue and a couple hours from Seattle, it takes a pretty powerful draw to fill that venue. It would make for a great place for an MMJ festival though. On site camping with multiple sets each day. Other down side on the Gorge is it can be insanely hot during the day. Amazing venue though.
Quote from: buymycar on Aug 02, 2015, 03:01 AM
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Quote from: millerjustin on Jul 31, 2015, 03:10 PM
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Quote from: millerjustin on Jul 27, 2015, 12:54 PM
March/April 2016 - more heavy touring, hitting the markets and fests they missed this year, then OBH3 finish line Jan/Feb 2017. and then a nice vacation for these hard working dudes!!!
That totally makes sense. But I can't think of a market in the US that they missed this year. Maine? Indy? Living in DC, I can argue that MPP is a Baltimore show and that a run at the Warner Theater would be super fantastic.
The Mann in Philly, Mountain Jam, Canandaigua (CMAC), The Cap in Port Chester, multi-night RR's, lots of others that I can't think of right now
Camden is pretty much Philly, but the others make sense. Maybe they will have a date at the Gorge in Oregon, that's always a place I have wanted to see them play. Also they could hit up Locken in VA as that is one fest they have never done and it continually has a lineup I think they would enjoy and maybe share the stage with.
The Gorge is in Washington state. In fact, the Gorge is in George, Washington.
My bad I should of looked it up since I have never been to the venue, but going off of knowledge of the area I thought it would be somewhere along the Dalles area on either side of the river. Been through that area a number of times and always thought it was really scenic (besides the windmills) with the high desert landscape.
from what ive read and gathered in my mind from all applicable interviews, The Waterfall and The 2016 Record are two very differet entities. Thus said, that was exactly why Jim and the others agreed to split the songs up instead of a double album. The Waterfall is about rebirth and all these environmental protection of the planet but also of your personal environment. So if this new one is different than Waterfall, wouldn't it be a very very intensely dark record filled with tales from the dark side?
Im predicting maximum riffage, but a lot more of a Let It Bleed era Stones ensemble feel with maybe some horns and Carl's vocals more present in the backing department. We cant even imagine what they'll come up with, they absolutely create new sounds you can't even dream about. Believe reminded me of Ride My Seesaw by The Moody Blues and that's what I love about MMJ, its their vibe taking songs you think you've heard before but its so new you know you haven't, but those echoes of the past are like ghosts hovering all over it, but in a good way. The band have a mystique all their own and I think we're looking at a noodlier jam heavy, Jim vocal throwdown show dark LP.
Further backing up my theory (however wild it may be), Roger Waters just announced that he will be touring next year.
http://www.oregonlive.com/music/index.ssf/2015/09/my_morning_jacket_counts_portl.html
Patrick with NEW ALBUM INFO!!!! its not a ton but its interesting where they're leaving it at this juncture. ..it may not be what we thought. ..
http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4149363-nature-and-spirituality-run-through-this-record---dis-meets-my-morning-jacket
Another interview this time with Jim that sheds some more light but keeps things up in the air...
Frankly, these two interviews don't make me feel like the album is going to come out even remotely soon. I'd kind of be surprised if it's even 2016.
Quote from: MOWJO8185 on Sep 30, 2015, 09:20 PM
Frankly, these two interviews don't make me feel like the album is going to come out even remotely soon. I'd kind of be surprised if it's even 2016.
Agreed, I am not optimistic about it being out in 2016. I wonder what the status is on the solo effort he mentioned awhile back.
id much rather have nonstop Jacket than the solo stuff frankly, just my opinion and I DID love Regions :beer:
I dread the day when the answer becomes "no".
Quote from: walterfredo on Oct 01, 2015, 11:54 AM
I dread the day when the answer becomes "no".
No as the answer to what bro? ???
In response to Jim's interview...
Whether it is all worth it?
He answered for right now it is "yes"
So the day he says no...
Will be a shitty dreadful day for all of us
Ohhhh ok I getcha now...goddamn that'd just fucking suck. I feel very privileged just to be able to see them twice!
Quote from: Lonndown27 on Oct 01, 2015, 10:34 PM
Ohhhh ok I getcha now...goddamn that'd just fucking suck. I feel very privileged just to be able to see them twice!
That is why whenever people complain about set lists, I think, one day you people are going to wish you could see them on stage playing "I'm Amazed" or Black Metal. That's why I cherish it no matter what's played or not played, because one day, it will all end either for me or the band. So in the meantime, I shall enjoy it all
Quote from: justbcuzido on Oct 02, 2015, 10:32 AM
Quote from: Lonndown27 on Oct 01, 2015, 10:34 PM
Ohhhh ok I getcha now...goddamn that'd just fucking suck. I feel very privileged just to be able to see them twice!
That is why whenever people complain about set lists, I think, one day you people are going to wish you could see them on stage playing "I'm Amazed" or Black Metal. That's why I cherish it no matter what's played or not played, because one day, it will all end either for me or the band. So in the meantime, I shall enjoy it all
im never one to complain, as i pretty much enjoy all mmj songs no matter what. Thats being said, i wish they would get to the point where they could play very different setlists night in and night out, but the fan support is simply not there YET, but it will be sooner rather than later.
Look at Widespread Panic (who im not really a fan of btw, but respect the hell out of them), they dont play the same song twice in a row ever. I know they are more of a jam band and have been around way longer, but how great would that be later in MMJ's career?!?
I second what you said though, one day when theyve decided to hang it up we will all wish we could hear songs like those!
Quote from: jcc0065 on Oct 02, 2015, 12:51 PM
Quote from: justbcuzido on Oct 02, 2015, 10:32 AM
Quote from: Lonndown27 on Oct 01, 2015, 10:34 PM
Ohhhh ok I getcha now...goddamn that'd just fucking suck. I feel very privileged just to be able to see them twice!
That is why whenever people complain about set lists, I think, one day you people are going to wish you could see them on stage playing "I'm Amazed" or Black Metal. That's why I cherish it no matter what's played or not played, because one day, it will all end either for me or the band. So in the meantime, I shall enjoy it all
im never one to complain, as i pretty much enjoy all mmj songs no matter what. Thats being said, i wish they would get to the point where they could play very different setlists night in and night out, but the fan support is simply not there YET, but it will be sooner rather than later.
Look at Widespread Panic (who im not really a fan of btw, but respect the hell out of them), they dont play the same song twice in a row ever. I know they are more of a jam band and have been around way longer, but how great would that be later in MMJ's career?!?
I second what you said though, one day when theyve decided to hang it up we will all wish we could hear songs like those!
great greeeeat points from both of you! I hope for rarities on 10/07 SLC, like Come CLoser, I WIll Sing You, Rollin Back, Oxen etc and i doubt it'll happen but as long as they play one or two and blow my face off and at least give us a little something new (considering they HAVE played more or less the same songs the last four times they've been here).
Quote from: jcc0065 on Oct 02, 2015, 12:51 PM
I think, one day you people are going to wish you could see them on stage playing...Black Metal...
This song would suck even if Jesus tried covering it.
Quote from: WinstonLegthigh on Oct 04, 2015, 03:38 AM
Quote from: jcc0065 on Oct 02, 2015, 12:51 PM
I think, one day you people are going to wish you could see them on stage playing...Black Metal...
This song would suck even if Jesus tried covering it.
..........
Quote from: WinstonLegthigh on Oct 04, 2015, 03:38 AM
Quote from: jcc0065 on Oct 02, 2015, 12:51 PM
I think, one day you people are going to wish you could see them on stage playing...Black Metal...
This song would suck even if Jesus tried covering it.
That's like, your opinion, man!
Quote from: WinstonLegthigh on Oct 04, 2015, 03:38 AM
Quote from: jcc0065 on Oct 02, 2015, 12:51 PM
I think, one day you people are going to wish you could see them on stage playing...Black Metal...
This song would suck even if Jesus tried covering it.
I'm gonna have to agree with Winston(great name by the way-RS,RR circus)
When they play it I'm usually stoked cuz Holdin on to Black Metal=
I'm holdin onto a full bladder. It's a great piss song and you gotta have em. But yes Jesus himself couldn't get me interested in that song. The only version I like is the original, Thai or Cambodian song it's based off of. If someone could post that version on this thread I'd appreciate it.
And as far as saying, someday I'll wish I could see them onstage playin HOBM...
NOPE, that day will never come, EVER. Wanna know how I'm certain...? Because from the first time I heard it on their website before "Circuital" came out til this second, I have never wanted to hear it again. I think they(MMJ) likes playin it or Jim likes singing it, and there's a large fan contingent who likes hearing it too, which is fine. It is just absolutely, positively, not my jam AT ALL. Never has been, never will be. Evan with Prez hall or Antibalas on horns. It's a GREAT piss song and that's all it will ever be for me.
And to answer justbecuaseido's comment about Widespread Panic...Full disclosure, I'm a recovering WSP Fan. Working the steps, one day at a time. I Saw of 75-100 WSP shows.
Hi my name is TIPPITOES and I'm a Widespread fan (used to be). But here's the difference btween these 2 bands
1) WSP hasn't written a good song since 1998. It started with their album "Don't tell the band"
Which should've been called "Don't tell the band, their new lp SUCKS!"
2)And they're fans got to be Soo Bad! Southern frat boys on too much Molly,does not for a good show make.
3)Also I got tired of shelling out big $ to see talented musicians butcher covers of some of my Favorite bands songs. Just shitting out terrible covers so bad that it was embarrassing.
I don't think we'll have that problem with MMJ. The have that almost "Willie Nelson" like quality of covering a song and doing it justice and making it their own. And if and when that day comes, that they decide to hang up their hats it will be a sad day indeed, but I refuse to believe that if this great band we all love so much decides to call it quits, I seriously doubt it will be with the caveat that " We're done playin live, except for HOBM..."
As I've typed this I realize more than half of it is subjective and kinda goofy, but fuck em if they can't take a joke. (Them being EVERYONE)
All The Best,
Tippy
PS- I've seen ppl speculating about doing something like Wilco did, or MMJs new thing might be something Wilco did this one time. I just wanna go on the record and say I hope they don't do anything resembling anything Wilco's every done. I wish this for selfish reasons and I wish it for everyone who hasn't realized that Wilco sucks yet...yet
PPS-Sorry if I've offended any Wilco fans(not really, it's an empty apology.They suck)
PPPS- I think the new record is gonna have an underlying dub ICP vibe, with a Sugar Ray meets 311+Sublime, Meets Hoobastank feel. So stoked. Jugaloos 4 LYFE+lame So Cal feel, sounds like a dream come true...? LP Title "Peaceful Greazy Feelin' " :)
Quote from: tippitoes22 on Oct 17, 2015, 12:00 AM
Quote from: WinstonLegthigh on Oct 04, 2015, 03:38 AM
Quote from: jcc0065 on Oct 02, 2015, 12:51 PM
I think, one day you people are going to wish you could see them on stage playing...Black Metal...
This song would suck even if Jesus tried covering it.
I'm gonna have to agree with Winston(great name by the way-RS,RR circus)
When they play it I'm usually stoked cuz Holdin on to Black Metal=
I'm holdin onto a full bladder. It's a great piss song and you gotta have em. But yes Jesus himself couldn't get me interested in that song. The only version I like is the original, Thai or Cambodian song it's based off of. If someone could post that version on this thread I'd appreciate it.
And as far as saying, someday I'll wish I could see them onstage playin HOBM...
NOPE, that day will never come, EVER. Wanna know how I'm certain...? Because from the first time I heard it on their website before "Circuital" came out til this second, I have never wanted to hear it again. I think they(MMJ) likes playin it or Jim likes singing it, and there's a large fan contingent who likes hearing it too, which is fine. It is just absolutely, positively, not my jam AT ALL. Never has been, never will be. Evan with Prez hall or Antibalas on horns. It's a GREAT piss song and that's all it will ever be for me.
And to answer justbecuaseido's comment about Widespread Panic...Full disclosure, I'm a recovering WSP Fan. Working the steps, one day at a time. I Saw of 75-100 WSP shows.
Hi my name is TIPPITOES and I'm a Widespread fan (used to be). But here's the difference btween these 2 bands
1) WSP hasn't written a good song since 1998. It started with their album "Don't tell the band"
Which should've been called "Don't tell the band, their new lp SUCKS!"
2)And they're fans got to be Soo Bad! Southern frat boys on too much Molly,does not for a good show make.
3)Also I got tired of shelling out big $ to see talented musicians butcher covers of some of my Favorite bands songs. Just shitting out terrible covers so bad that it was embarrassing.
I don't think we'll have that problem with MMJ. The have that almost "Willie Nelson" like quality of covering a song and doing it justice and making it their own. And if and when that day comes, that they decide to hang up their hats it will be a sad day indeed, but I refuse to believe that if this great band we all love so much decides to call it quits, I seriously doubt it will be with the caveat that " We're done playin live, except for HOBM..."
As I've typed this I realize more than half of it is subjective and kinda goofy, but fuck em if they can't take a joke. (Them being EVERYONE)
All The Best,
Tippy
PS- I've seen ppl speculating about doing something like Wilco did, or MMJs new thing might be something Wilco did this one time. I just wanna go on the record and say I hope they don't do anything resembling anything Wilco's every done. I wish this for selfish reasons and I wish it for everyone who hasn't realized that Wilco sucks yet...yet
PPS-Sorry if I've offended any Wilco fans(not really, it's an empty apology.They suck)
PPPS- I think the new record is gonna have an underlying dub ICP vibe, with a Sugar Ray meets 311+Sublime, Meets Hoobastank feel. So stoked. Jugaloos 4 LYFE+lame So Cal feel, sounds like a dream come true...? LP Title "Peaceful Greazy Feelin' " :)
fucking awesome post...I love Black Metal's live versions but only in doses and traces, like when Im getting sick of listening to the Rollin Backs etc, i go to a dose of hit-ivity from MMJ like a Wordless or Black Metal version i've never heard before, and usually they always knock me socks off.
But I love your opinion and how you expressed it .
Black Metal wails.
Wail
1.
a prolonged high-pitched cry of pain, grief, or anger.
"Christopher let out a wail"
synonyms: howl, bawl, yowl, cry, moan, groan; More
Agreed, RobRoy286.
HOBM IS a high pitched cry of pain(usually from my bladder),
grief (:cry: they played HOBM, again), anger (they could have played any other song than HOBM!)
Again just not my jam. Love the band, just not HOBM :) :beer:
Just one guys opinion :thumbsup:
Quote from: tippitoes22 on Oct 20, 2015, 10:34 PM
Wail
1.
a prolonged high-pitched cry of pain, grief, or anger.
"Christopher let out a wail"
synonyms: howl, bawl, yowl, cry, moan, groan; More
Agreed, RobRoy286.
HOBM IS a high pitched cry of pain(usually from my bladder),
grief (:cry: they played HOBM, again), anger (they could have played any other song than HOBM!)
Again just not my jam. Love the band, just not HOBM :) :beer:
Just one guys opinion :thumbsup:
You can add me to the list. Not my jam either. Never was, and never will be.
Ftr, I've been a big Springsteen fan for 40 years and he's got a few tunes I can't stand too.
dont get the hate on black metal here. been one of my favorites
I didn't care for Black Metal when it was played every night on the Circuital tour but it was such a surprise and absolutely rocking in Vegas. Bring it on!
I wish they'd give Circuital a night off.
anybody hear anything new?
Quote from: Lonndown27 on Oct 21, 2015, 01:25 AM
anybody hear anything new?
Tom and Bo spent some time with people outside SF shows - sounds like lighter touring schedule in 2016 (but with some gems in May - stay tuned) - maybe album late year, but most likely 2017 with OBH3
Quote from: millerjustin on Oct 21, 2015, 05:23 PM
Quote from: Lonndown27 on Oct 21, 2015, 01:25 AM
anybody hear anything new?
Tom and Bo spent some time with people outside SF shows - sounds like lighter touring schedule in 2016 (but with some gems in May - stay tuned) - maybe album late year, but most likely 2017 with OBH3
Gems in May huh??? ohhhhhhh Millerjustin, its Millertime!
Quote from: Lonndown27 on Oct 22, 2015, 12:05 AM
Quote from: millerjustin on Oct 21, 2015, 05:23 PM
Quote from: Lonndown27 on Oct 21, 2015, 01:25 AM
anybody hear anything new?
Tom and Bo spent some time with people outside SF shows - sounds like lighter touring schedule in 2016 (but with some gems in May - stay tuned) - maybe album late year, but most likely 2017 with OBH3
Gems in May huh??? ohhhhhhh Millerjustin, its Millertime!
All the shows are gems :)
Now I wonder if that means Jim will still release a solo record in 2016?
QuoteNow I wonder if that means Jim will still release a solo record in 2016?
If it's anything like his last one, I hope not.
Quote from: wheelhousetunes on Oct 22, 2015, 11:20 AM
QuoteNow I wonder if that means Jim will still release a solo record in 2016?
If it's anything like his last one, I hope not.
I personally really liked it and it was great to see live. But to each their own. I also like Holding Onto Black Metal, so what do I know
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I personally really liked it and it was great to see live. But to each their own. I also like Holding Onto Black Metal, so what do I know
My expectations for it was massively high. I should probably give it a few more listens.
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Quote from: wheelhousetunes on Oct 22, 2015, 11:20 AM
QuoteNow I wonder if that means Jim will still release a solo record in 2016?
If it's anything like his last one, I hope not.
I love Jim's solo album! The tour he did for it was killer! I saw him 4 times on that tour (front row for 3 of the 4 shows) and thought the energy and intimacy of the venues was fantastic! Plus, his backing band members are all very skilled professionals. I can't wait for his next album/tour!
Mr. White is right on the money here. He was a few seats away from me up front, and there was a good contingent of forum folks including Fully, Sara, ..., at the Louisville hometown show at the Brown Theater, to kick-off the second leg of this tour.
Thanks again for getting me the ticket for this show and I wish I was able, like you, to see more of this tour!
"If it's anything like his last one, I hope not."
I love Jim's solo album! The tour he did for it was killer! I saw him 4 times on that tour (front row for 3 of the 4 shows) and thought the energy and intimacy of the venues was fantastic! Plus, his backing band members are all very skilled professionals. I can't wait for his next album/tour!
I'm with you Mr. White!, and WAS with you on the rail for the show at the Mercy in Nashville where we also met Big Herm and his wife. Several other forum members up front too. Energy of the great band that nite was fantastic. We met Dave(drummer ) after show - he was carrying the broken foot pedal from his bass drum and proud that he was playing so hard that he broke it!
I was also a lucky winner of passes to the tour kickoff show at the basement in Nashville . Jim looked so proud (maybe a little nervous too).
Carl opened (unplugged) then joined band for the encore of 4 MMJ tunes .
Looking forward to another solo album, whenever it comes.
Black Metal is the greatest thing to come from MMJ since its release in 2011
So for anyone who has heard any bit of the new track Throwback, what are your thoughts?
After seeing it last night in Houston, my thoughts are it's sort of like a mix (of the worst parts) of Big Decisions + Believe. Catchy very poppy riff with repeating catchy chorus. Very straight forward pop rock. I will say the intro guitar work by Carl was cool and there was a jam; however, I hope this isn't what Jim meant when he said he was interested in making a more Rockin' record next. Maybe I just need to hear it again, but it wasn't inspiring to me.
Quote from: justbcuzido on Apr 29, 2016, 12:14 PM
So for anyone who has heard any bit of the new track Throwback, what are your thoughts?
After seeing it last night in Houston, my thoughts are it's sort of like a mix (of the worst parts) of Big Decisions + Believe. Catchy very poppy riff with repeating catchy chorus. Very straight forward pop rock. I will say the intro guitar work by Carl was cool and there was a jam; however, I hope this isn't what Jim meant when he said he was interested in making a more Rockin' record next. Maybe I just need to hear it again, but it wasn't inspiring to me.
I felt the same way when I first heard Big Decisions...
Anybody know of a youtube vid or live audio out there yet?
Big Decisions is one of the few songs MMJ has done with a co-writing credit, not solely Jim. Those things happen when you're on a major label and they want a "single". I'm sure that's a big reason it's been in the doghouse for most of its short existence. If that and Black Metal are what most people consider the bands worst tumes, that still makes them better than 99% of the bands out there today.
Never heard Black Metal as being one of the worst tunes by fans view. I have heard some people don't like it, but also many people think it is the best song on Circuital. I can't even listen to that whole album. Reminds me of Sesame Street.
Quote from: amskinz on Apr 29, 2016, 12:59 PM
Big Decisions is one of the few songs MMJ has done with a co-writing credit, not solely Jim. Those things happen when you're on a major label and they want a "single". I'm sure that's a big reason it's been in the doghouse for most of its short existence. If that and Black Metal are what most people consider the bands worst tumes, that still makes them better than 99% of the bands out there today.
People seem to love Black Metal when it's played live. That song goes so hard. IDK, I just felt Big Decisions was a misstep a little and kind of how I felt last night with this possible new song. It just seemed very generic pop rock light, and it feels weird coming from these guys. I just hope it's not the direction the next album follows..
That said, I'm not totally writing it off until I've given the final product several listens.
I really enjoy Black Metal. They've even said in the past they were trying to make that song sound the way it does in hopes it'd be a breakout single. It indeed rocks live! Like I said, Big Decisions may have been more of a label suggested song more than a band song. I haven't had a chance to hear the new tune so I can't comment. I look forward to someone posting a clip of it!
Quote from: amskinz on Apr 29, 2016, 12:59 PM
Big Decisions is one of the few songs MMJ has done with a co-writing credit, not solely Jim. Those things happen when you're on a major label and they want a "single". I'm sure that's a big reason it's been in the doghouse for most of its short existence. If that and Black Metal are what most people consider the bands worst tumes, that still makes them better than 99% of the bands out there today.
I love black metal. Have really been missing it live lately. One day we'll catch them with a horn section and all remember how much fun it was!
Quote from: justbcuzido on Apr 29, 2016, 12:14 PM
So for anyone who has heard any bit of the new track Throwback, what are your thoughts?
After seeing it last night in Houston, my thoughts are it's sort of like a mix (of the worst parts) of Big Decisions + Believe. Catchy very poppy riff with repeating catchy chorus. Very straight forward pop rock. I will say the intro guitar work by Carl was cool and there was a jam; however, I hope this isn't what Jim meant when he said he was interested in making a more Rockin' record next. Maybe I just need to hear it again, but it wasn't inspiring to me.
I got to OKC early and heard them practicing it a lot before the show and was trying to figure out what the hell it was. I definitely agree with your assessment, it's very much straightforward pop-rock in the vein of "Big Decisions." But I like it a lot more than "Big Decisions" (not as much as "Believe" though). It just seemed like an average song. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I liked the chords and the harmonies. And it was stuck in my head all day today.
I didn't love that new song either but I feel like a MMJ record has so many different types of sounds on it. So if you don't like throwback there will be others on the radar that you will enjoy more.
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Quote from: amskinz on Apr 29, 2016, 12:59 PM
Big Decisions is one of the few songs MMJ has done with a co-writing credit, not solely Jim. Those things happen when you're on a major label and they want a "single". I'm sure that's a big reason it's been in the doghouse for most of its short existence. If that and Black Metal are what most people consider the bands worst tumes, that still makes them better than 99% of the bands out there today.
I love black metal. Have really been missing it live lately. One day we'll catch them with a horn section and all remember how much fun it was!
Black Metal with the PHJB is sublime. Was lucky enough to get it in Oakland back in 2011.
Here's a taste of "Throwback" from Oklahoma City, courtesy of TGMC421.
https://soundcloud.com/john-yacopucci/throwback-oklahoma-city-ok-04272016
Thanks for posting! Sounds good to me. Little Traveling Wilburys-y.
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Quote from: justbcuzido on Apr 29, 2016, 12:14 PM
So for anyone who has heard any bit of the new track Throwback, what are your thoughts?
After seeing it last night in Houston, my thoughts are it's sort of like a mix (of the worst parts) of Big Decisions + Believe. Catchy very poppy riff with repeating catchy chorus. Very straight forward pop rock. I will say the intro guitar work by Carl was cool and there was a jam; however, I hope this isn't what Jim meant when he said he was interested in making a more Rockin' record next. Maybe I just need to hear it again, but it wasn't inspiring to me.
I got to OKC early and heard them practicing it a lot before the show and was trying to figure out what the hell it was. I definitely agree with your assessment, it's very much straightforward pop-rock in the vein of "Big Decisions." But I like it a lot more than "Big Decisions" (not as much as "Believe" though). It just seemed like an average song. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I liked the chords and the harmonies. And it was stuck in my head all day today.
I laughed when I saw that it was stuck in your head all day. I saw a clip of it live and was like "oh that's nice", then after two days of it being stuck in my head I can't wait to hear what it sounds like on the album.
agree with the very pop-oriented sound and song structure (at least what I've heard). Kinda reminds me of a Big Star track...
I'll w/hold final judgement on this, but it seems like a good song...for another band.
So they are playing a new song on this tour and the ACL live stream link mentions "previews of its upcoming 2016 lp"
Is it possible we will get new MMJ in 2016? That'd be most excellent
Quote from: gardenparty on May 02, 2016, 01:21 PM
So they are playing a new song on this tour and the ACL live stream link mentions "previews of its upcoming 2016 lp"
Is it possible we will get new MMJ in 2016? That'd be most excellent
I'm guessing we'll see Throwback plus one or two more new songs at ACL tonight. This being said, one of two things is happening:
1) if they are following same formula as Waterfall with new label, then OBH2 "leak" of 3 new songs led to a May release of the Waterfall. This could indicate a Fall or early winter release (blowing up OBH3 with new material); or
2) they will continue to road test new material throughout the year (which looks light so far in terms of touring) and follow the same formula as above following OBH3.
#2 seems much more likely - especially given the fact that Jim is busy remastering and with his new solo album. Also, the 2016 tour schedule released thus far isn't built for a major roll-out.
So, I'd say let's be happy with the little gems they drop on us this year and get ready for a kick ass 2017!!!
It feels like a number of publications are still citing the expectation for an MMJ album this year based on the initial comments from the band on releasing two albums close together. It seems like they have really backed off those comments in more recent press, however. I think 2nd quarter of 2017 is the earliest we could expect an album.
me too, I'm thinking 2017.
Btw, I thought throwback was fucking great on ACL. Jim had a ton of energy.
Great song.
Throwback sounds like an up tempo Beatles song. Kept waiting to hear all the ladies screaming.
Not horrible but not preferred.
Maybe if they slow it down a notch and noodle it in the middle.
It is an okay Jacket song which makes it better than most songs from other bands :-) The guitar part is awesome
Quote from: parkervb on May 02, 2016, 12:11 PM
agree with the very pop-oriented sound and song structure (at least what I've heard). Kinda reminds me of a Big Star track...
I'll w/hold final judgement on this, but it seems like a good song...for another band.
like I said I was going to w/hold final judgement...
it's a rad fucking song!!! Anytime we get the "Jim saunters over to jam with Carl" moments, I am in!
Here's a link straight to it from last night https://youtu.be/gQEnEYY7GAA?t=46m30s
After hearing it again live last night, I am more onboard with this tune. They are definitely working the kinks out with it as the Jam portion was WAY extended at the ACL taping compared to Houston. The Houston show it was pretty short (was my favorite part). I still think the lyrics are a bit cheesy but I feel like it may be the point of the "Throwback" to pop songs. It has great potential live.
Also, I loved the moment before the song started and Jim takes a step back kind of looks up to the sky and takes a DEEP DEEP breath, exhales and they start. Kind of showed a more human side of him of a bit of nerves and hesitation of playing a new song for a TV audience. pretty cool.
Quote from: justbcuzido on May 03, 2016, 11:20 AM
Also, I loved the moment before the song started and Jim takes a step back kind of looks up to the sky and takes a DEEP DEEP breath, exhales and they start. Kind of showed a more human side of him of a bit of nerves and hesitation of playing a new song for a TV audience. pretty cool.
Totally agree. We all talk about it taking a few listens to get acquainted with new tunes. Even if they've played it 100 times together already, it still takes time to get it where they're comfortable with an audience. And once they're comfortable, it opens it up to even more changes! That's the beauty!!!
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Quote from: parkervb on May 02, 2016, 12:11 PM
agree with the very pop-oriented sound and song structure (at least what I've heard). Kinda reminds me of a Big Star track...
I'll w/hold final judgement on this, but it seems like a good song...for another band.
like I said I was going to w/hold final judgement...
it's a rad fucking song!!! Anytime we get the "Jim saunters over to jam with Carl" moments, I am in!
Here's a link straight to it from last night https://youtu.be/gQEnEYY7GAA?t=46m30s
thanks for posting a direct link. i still don't get how anyone can argue that a new song - with that kind of jam in the middle - isn't EXACTLY what we NEED from this band right now!
The only thing with throwback is I hope on the new album, the producer doesn't take pats power away. Sec walkin, Smokin, all sounded unreal live. Then on the album, the drums sounded like a baby fart.
Unleash pats fury!
Anyone have a different link to that Throwback performance? The ACL direct link is now private.
TIA.
idk I get the vibe like What A Wonderful Man X Big Decisions
Quote from: dub82 on May 03, 2016, 10:31 PM
The only thing with throwback is I hope on the new album, the producer doesn't take pats power away. Sec walkin, Smokin, all sounded unreal live. Then on the album, the drums sounded like a baby fart.
Unleash pats fury!
Haha! So true!
http://www.courier-journal.com/story/entertainment/arts/music/2016/05/10/my-morning-jacket-iroquois-park-louisville/84134966/
James said that a new MMJ album is taking shape, but not the one that fans were expecting. When "The Waterfall" was released last May it was announced that there were more than enough songs for a second, vastly different album to be released this year.
Some of that music is still in play, but a recent surge of inspiration got in the way. Some of the leftover "Waterfall" music will still be used, but the album will take off in yet another direction.
"I feel like a month ago I didn't have any idea when I'd want to make another My Morning Jacket record, and then all of these songs popped out and I got super excited," said James, who anticipates a 2017 release.
also teases that there may be a second new song played
Hopefully Throwback is indeed one of those leftover waterfall tracks and not part of the recent surge of inspiration.
Quote from: AlwxanderD10 on May 10, 2016, 11:41 AM
Hopefully Throwback is indeed one of those leftover waterfall tracks and not part of the recent surge of inspiration.
My guess is the opposite.
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Quote from: AlwxanderD10 on May 10, 2016, 11:41 AM
Hopefully Throwback is indeed one of those leftover waterfall tracks and not part of the recent surge of inspiration.
My guess is the opposite.
i'd be very surprised if Throwback is from the Waterfall sessions. I get that not everyone is going to like Throwback but what is encouraging (for some) is the possible return to songs w/ more guitar interplay that we did not seem to get much of on The Waterfall.
My opinion on Throwback comes down to this: anytime a song provides a moment for Jim to saunter over to Carl for a jam, I am in.
Throwback is a very good melodic pop song with a good jam in the middle. :thumbsup: It ain't Run thru, but neither is the rest of ISM. My guess is it is just a tile in the mosaic of a new album, and just like Big Decisions, it does not set the tone of what to expect.
Quote from: rincon2 on May 10, 2016, 12:59 PM
Throwback is a very good melodic pop song with a good jam in the middle. :thumbsup: It ain't Run thru, but neither is the rest of ISM. My guess is it is just a tile in the mosaic of a new album, and just like Big Decisions, it does not set the tone of what to expect.
So true. I can't think of one song off the last few albums that sets the tone for the rest of that album. Big Decisions or I'm Amazed (recent singles) were not indicative of the rest of the album. No two songs are alike, which is why MMJ albums remind me of an incredible mix tape.
I'm loving the ACL version of Throwback. Got a Neil Young vibe to it. I'll be stoked if this is the direction they're heading for a new album.
Quote from: Human Sauce on May 12, 2016, 11:42 PM
I'm loving the ACL version of Throwback. Got a Neil Young vibe to it. I'll be stoked if this is the direction they're heading for a new album.
Funny you say that. I heard the song a few times waiting for the OKC show, and heard it during the show, but despite that, when I watched the ACL performance I still didn't know it was that song... During the intro on ACL I said, "What's this? It sounds like Neil Young."
Saw it tonight thanks to some generous soul on Periscope, and I have to say, the more I hear it, the more I like it. The jam in the song is definitely contributing to that. We didn't get that in OKC.
First time I heard Throwback tonight thought it was pretty Dope.
I mean Carl is basically double fisting his gold top and sax. Nuff said?
Quote from: ruralt on May 13, 2016, 01:42 AM
Quote from: Human Sauce on May 12, 2016, 11:42 PM
I'm loving the ACL version of Throwback. Got a Neil Young vibe to it. I'll be stoked if this is the direction they're heading for a new album.
Funny you say that. I heard the song a few times waiting for the OKC show, and heard it during the show, but despite that, when I watched the ACL performance I still didn't know it was that song... During the intro on ACL I said, "What's this? It sounds like Neil Young."
Saw it tonight thanks to some generous soul on Periscope, and I have to say, the more I hear it, the more I like it. The jam in the song is definitely contributing to that. We didn't get that in OKC.
Funny you say that, cause in Houston we didn't get treated to that nasty jam either. I'm glad to see this song evolve and get better in my opinion. The ACL performance sold me.
I've come to repent... I can't find my post, but I originally stated that I "hated" Throwback. I didn't even really like it when they played it in Louisville.. but then on my way home a melody got stuck in my head, and it turned out to be Throwback.. so i brought up the ACL version of it and instantly it clicked. I really can't get enough of it now.
I think the problem was that I wanted and expected one thing and got something completely different.. when i let the song be the song, i started to appreciate some really cool aspects of it.. this tends to be my experience with most new Jacket stuff, except that i usually don't hate it i just don't really know how to feel about it.
Anyway.. Throwback kicks ass and I can't wait to hear it again at Red Rocks.
Quote from: Stevie on May 16, 2016, 01:49 AM
I've come to repent... I can't find my post, but I originally stated that I "hated" Throwback. I didn't even really like it when they played it in Louisville.. but then on my way home a melody got stuck in my head, and it turned out to be Throwback.. so i brought up the ACL version of it and instantly it clicked. I really can't get enough of it now.
I think the problem was that I wanted and expected one thing and got something completely different.. when i let the song be the song, i started to appreciate some really cool aspects of it.. this tends to be my experience with most new Jacket stuff, except that i usually don't hate it i just don't really know how to feel about it.
Anyway.. Throwback kicks ass and I can't wait to hear it again at Red Rocks.
I think what you are describing is exactly what Evil Urges did to long time fans when it first came out. Not what was anticipated, yet really chock full of ear worms. (Circuital remains worm free to me)
Quote from: rincon2 on May 16, 2016, 11:41 AM
Quote from: Stevie on May 16, 2016, 01:49 AM
I've come to repent... I can't find my post, but I originally stated that I "hated" Throwback. I didn't even really like it when they played it in Louisville.. but then on my way home a melody got stuck in my head, and it turned out to be Throwback.. so i brought up the ACL version of it and instantly it clicked. I really can't get enough of it now.
I think the problem was that I wanted and expected one thing and got something completely different.. when i let the song be the song, i started to appreciate some really cool aspects of it.. this tends to be my experience with most new Jacket stuff, except that i usually don't hate it i just don't really know how to feel about it.
Anyway.. Throwback kicks ass and I can't wait to hear it again at Red Rocks.
I think what you are describing is exactly what Evil Urges did to long time fans when it first came out. Not what was anticipated, yet really chock full of ear worms. (Circuital remains worm free to me)
Definitely! And totally agree on Circuital. Although Slow Slow Tune is an extremely powerful song live.
I've got to say....it's been 6 weeks since Red Rocks. I've listened to each night of the live recordings probably a dozen times. Throwback is a damn jam!! As with most, I wasn't digging it the first time I heard it. After the ACL show, my buddy and I were like "wait....that is the same song?! It's so good!" I listen to the RR version multiple times per week (along with War Begun & Picture of You :cheesy:)...
Not sure it meshes well with Magic Bullet from a "new album" perspective, but I'm not sure we should read too much into that at this moment. Both of these songs are excellent jams. Can't wait to hear how the band breaks down Magic Bullet at Lockn. It should be a powerful few minutes. It's got a haunting sound about it...
has an extremely similar feel to Only Memories Remain. I wonder if they toyed with the idea of keeping OMR for the second album and creating a real spacey, easy listening kind of album. Would have been interesting.