What Movie Did You Just See?

[wellfleet]

watched "paradise lost" last night. it's an hbo doc about these three young boys who were tortured and murdered in west memphis, arkansas and the ensuing whodunit. it was riveting.
i told my husband that a UFO could have landed smack in my bedroom and little purple sludge could have oozed out of it and i wouldn't have found that any stranger than these west memphis trailer-park people. they were the most foreign folks i have ever seen on cellulose.
it leaves more questions than answers, kind of like "capturing the friedmans". there's a paradise lost 2 which i will be adding to my netflix...
anyway, highly recommend

[ycartrob]

watched "paradise lost" last night. it's an hbo doc about these three young boys who were tortured and murdered in west memphis, arkansas and the ensuing whodunit. it was riveting.
i told my husband that a UFO could have landed smack in my bedroom and little purple sludge could have oozed out of it and i wouldn't have found that any stranger than these west memphis trailer-park people. they were the most foreign folks i have ever seen on cellulose.
it leaves more questions than answers, kind of like "capturing the friedmans". there's a paradise lost 2 which i will be adding to my netflix...
anyway, highly recommend

FYI- http://www.wm3.org/splash.php

[dragonboy]

watched "paradise lost" last night. it's an hbo doc about these three young boys who were tortured and murdered in west memphis, arkansas and the ensuing whodunit. it was riveting.
i told my husband that a UFO could have landed smack in my bedroom and little purple sludge could have oozed out of it and i wouldn't have found that any stranger than these west memphis trailer-park people. they were the most foreign folks i have ever seen on cellulose.
it leaves more questions than answers, kind of like "capturing the friedmans". there's a paradise lost 2 which i will be adding to my netflix...
anyway, highly recommend

What about that Mark Joseph Byers, heh?

I saw Paradise Lost & Paradise Lost 2 last year & was shocked beyond belief.
I put a thread up here soon after but it didn't get many hits.
I have since read Devils Knot: The True Story of The West Memphis 3 & have tried my best to support the WM3 by buying T-shirts for my wife & I.
I urge everyone to watch the documentary & get involved.

[Tree]

blair witch project

good movie.

[dragonboy]

blair witch project

good movie.

Blair Witch scares the shit out of me  :o
Now watch Paradise Lost - true life horror at it's most shocking!!!
Go for the UK version which is Region 0 & had parts 1 & 2.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0009OJ92M/qid=1140955925/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_11_1/203-3789526-6699153
When you've watched 1 you'll want to see 2.

[ali]

melinda & melinda - go radha mitchell!

hitchhikers guide to the galaxy (bought it on dvd) - could there be a more perfect choice for arthur than martin freeman??

shaun of the dead - not a huge fan of zombie flicks/horror/gore/scary movies in general, but dragonboy have to agree with you .... great movie! i've seen a lot of tv shows that simon pegg has been involved in, & really like his slightly twisted sense of humour. the fact that shaun is completely oblivious to the zombies and all the blood when he's off to the shops is classic.... plus the disturbing but funny vinyl collection-as-weapon scene  ;D

[dragonboy]

plus the disturbing but funny vinyl collection-as-weapon scene  ;D

Ed: Purple Rain?
Shaun: No.
Ed: Sign o' the Times?
Shaun: Definitely not.
Ed: The Batman soundtrack?
Shaun: Throw it.

;D

Melinda & Melinda comes out on DVD here in April.
Looking forward to that one...

[ali]

you have to love a film where the best weapon to hand is a cricket bat... only in england...! rambo meets david gower

;D

[Tree]

Blair Witch scares the shit out of me  :o
Now watch Paradise Lost - true life horror at it's most shocking!!!
Go for the UK version which is Region 0 & had parts 1 & 2.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0009OJ92M/qid=1140955925/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_11_1/203-3789526-6699153
When you've watched 1 you'll want to see 2.

ok thanks. i´ll check it out!

btw.dragonboy, you should check this site: http://www.manabalwak.com/

[wellfleet]

tracy, thanks, i've been to WM3 already and it's so fraking sad. they've just moved Damien to supermax and he's on his last-ditch appeals. they're about to kill an innocent man convicted (partly) by a guy who got his degree via mail-order. how horrifying. makes you wonder if they can pin murders on anybody...
and dragonboy... i've reserved devil's knot at my library, i live in arkansas, it's kind of infamous, i suppose, here...
this kind of thing could have never happened in civilization, the prosecution would have been laughed out of court. i'm sad. and i feel like, what's the point of seeing paradise lost 2, since i know they're all still rotting in jail...
oy... the south is a weird and dangerous place. how can so much hate grow in such a truly beautiful place?

[ycartrob]

... the south is a weird and dangerous place. how can so much hate grow in such a truly beautiful place?

It's not just the south, trust me, it's just that the stereotype is accepted more in our country.

 The planet is full of hate.  :-/

[wellfleet]

i wish that weren't true... but i can't imagine such a blind fear of other-ness would have been a factor in new york city or los angeles or detroit, you know? i feel like the small, insular, rural communities, with lower education levels and a church stranglehold are a breeding ground for this kind of mind set, ya know?

[EC]

i wish that weren't true... but i can't imagine such a blind fear of other-ness would have been a factor in new york city or los angeles or detroit, you know? i feel like the small, insular, rural communities, with lower education levels and a church stranglehold are a breeding ground for this kind of mind set, ya know?

aaaahhhhh woah now.  In every visit I've ever had to the southern states, it's been met with nothing but loveliness.  And it's not just the south with the smaller, rural communities, and those communities aren't the only places that breed hate and fear.  I have to agree with Tracy on this one - hate is everywhere.  It might just manifest itself in more "sophisticated" ways in cities and bigger towns.

Love, however, is also found everywhere.  whoot.

[SiOuxTribe]

Brokeback Mountain a few weeks ago.
Horrible.

[ycartrob]

i wish that weren't true... but i can't imagine such a blind fear of other-ness would have been a factor in new york city or los angeles or detroit, you know? i feel like the small, insular, rural communities, with lower education levels and a church stranglehold are a breeding ground for this kind of mind set, ya know?

Fear=Hate

Yep, it's a different fear in the big city and it manifests itself in just different, ugly ways. I will agree that lack of education makes some reject the unknown, however, so does too much education (some of the biggest hateful snobs, who HATE (fear) the poor are very educated).

There's also urbanization that can buy reality. Take OJ Simpson, for example. Now he wasn't guilty of anything, was he? Hate of the white man didn't get him off the hook now, did it?

Or the LA PD (or the NYPD), those there are some loving, open minded folks.

Hate is everywhere, but it sensationalizes well in the south b/c we as a nation don't care as much about the poor, whites and blacks as much as we care about the rich whites and blacks. IMO.

You would probably see it different if you lived in the south. I have lived in New England and seen vicious hate. It's everywhere.

[ycartrob]

I also understand how the curch can be a breeding ground for hate and intolerance, however, I work with homeless teens and must say that churches help out more than any other group of citizens. Even the wealthy liberals choose the church as a vehicle to aid the poor. Haven't run into many atheist groups who are bent on helping the poor.

I see the good and the bad when people talk about the stranglehold of the "church"

[wellfleet]

well, i DO live in the south. i've lived in texas, and now i live in arkansas. but you're absolutely right about hate and fear being found everywhere.
EC, i'm not saying they're not nice. they're super-nice. i, for one, adore it when a waitress calls me "hun" and people leave their doors open and everyone knows your name at the grocery store. it's part of the south's charm.
i guess i've just been extremely fortunate to do most of my growing up in montreal, who, for all its problems, is so multicultural and colourful. i loved getting on the metro and seeing people in 10 different colours and traditional dress.
but quebec is still very much catholic and many of the traditions, customs and laws are still based on the church being such a dominant factor.
i was refering to west memphis specifically, and especially the people portrayed in the movie. it would be ignorant to paint the entire south (or north) with the same brush.
to me, fearing someone who wears black or practices wicca or listens to metal is completely foreign because i don't know any people who fear those things. hate and fear of others is a pretty foreign concept to me cause i just wasn't raised like that.

[wellfleet]

i voluneteered for years at the old brewery mission in montreal and absolutely churches (and temples and mosques) do incredible good in the community.
the reason i fear, and i'll admit it, deeply religious people, is because their truth often, although not always, excludes all other truths. i find it frightening when something man-made is used to create an "us" and a "them". i feel that belonging to a religion and/or a church is a source of community and comfort to many, i fear those who feel that their way/god/belief/philosophy is the only way. i read an article about scientology in rolling stone today and thought the writer did a solid job of not saying "these quacks believe they are a trillion year old alien life form"... i find the tenets and beliefs of scientology no more and no less true than mormons or hindus. i just get really scared when people believe in only one way. and i see a lot of it in texas and arkansas where i've lived. for every church member who works with homeless teens (like you tracy, and that makes you a good person in my book), there's kirk cameron telling gay people they have sinned against god.
my fear is of politicized religion, of religion being used to further a cause other than love and peace, of religion being used to justify hating gays, abortions and interracial dating.

[ycartrob]

i guess i've just been extremely fortunate to do most of my growing up in montreal, who, for all its problems, is so multicultural and colourful

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Funny, when I lived up in Boston and I talked about driving to Montreal, almost everyone warned me about how rude the people are in Montreal (it had been their personal experience).

So are they that way just with tourists?

[Jaimoe]

Montreal is a great town. Don't worry about what some of the Bostonians told you. Just don't walk around thinking eveyone wants to speak English to you. It's a town that is a politial language (French vs English) powder-keg. If anything, French Montrealers should have not liked me when I visited being from hated Toronto, but I had no problems. I'd live in Montreal in a second. One of the best cities in North America to live and work in.