NCAA Football 2011

[kotchishm]

Big 12 is better this year.  SEC is vastly overrated.  Outside of Bammer and LSU there really isn't another solid Top 10 team IMO (Lattimore eliminates USCjr)

Agreed.  LSU and 'Bama are in a class by themselves in the SEC this year.  UGA is looking like they are going to win the SEC LEast only to get the misfortune of getting hammered by the winner of the LSU/'Bama game in the SEC Championship game.

But with that said, I think the overall weakness of the SEC this year should end the speculation that there could be an LSU/'Bama rematch in the BCS title game if there is an undefeated team out there still standing like a Big 12 team or a Stanford or a Boise...

Also, this wasn't necessarily a crack on the SEC, they have been the best for a while now and deserve the distinction of best conference year in year out, no questions asked, even in a down year.  This year however, I just don't feel that the depth is there as in other seasons.  I felt like USCjr had a very strong team at the beginning of the year but losing Lattimore all but took them out of contention (even though they are currently first in the east).    The Big 12 is fielding a good amount of very competitive teams this year and I feel like as a whole, they are the strongest from top to bottom.  Even though whoever wins the SEC title game ultimately stomps the BIG 12 representative into another world because Bammer and LSU are truly on another level.

Soooooooo Arkansas beat Texas AM in the only SEC / Big 12 match up. You got another theory?

So one head to head matchup determines conference depth and strength?  A 42-38 game?  If that's your argument then the ACC is better than the SEC (1-0 but we both know this isn't true).  Both conferences have six teams ranked in the BCS top 25.  All I was saying is as of right now I think the Big 12 has a slight edge in overall conference strength....so does Jeff Sagarin

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc11.htm   

[Tracy 2112]

So one head to head matchup determines conference depth and strength?  A 42-38 game?  If that's your argument then the ACC is better than the SEC (1-0 but we both know this isn't true).  Both conferences have six teams ranked in the BCS top 25.  All I was saying is as of right now I think the Big 12 has a slight edge in overall conference strength....so does Jeff Sagarin

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc11.htm

The best team in the ACC, Clemson, beat a not so good Auburn team (who could easily be 3-5) at home. Big whoop. Boise St. beat UGA and I don't think the Mountain West is better than the SEC.

Arkansas and Texas A&M are comparable teams in their conferences(2nd tier) and Arkansas won, thus the comparison, the only real comparison outside of theorizing who would win.

[capt. scotty]

So one head to head matchup determines conference depth and strength?  A 42-38 game?  If that's your argument then the ACC is better than the SEC (1-0 but we both know this isn't true).  Both conferences have six teams ranked in the BCS top 25.  All I was saying is as of right now I think the Big 12 has a slight edge in overall conference strength....so does Jeff Sagarin

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc11.htm

The best team in the ACC, Clemson, beat a not so good Auburn team (who could easily be 3-5) at home. Big whoop. Boise St. beat UGA and I don't think the Mountain West is better than the SEC.

Arkansas and Texas A&M are comparable teams in their conferences(2nd tier) and Arkansas won, thus the comparison, the only real comparison outside of theorizing who would win.

1 game is kind of a small sample size. Bowl season will likely show what conference was stronger

[Ruckus]

http://tebowing.com/

[Tracy 2112]

So one head to head matchup determines conference depth and strength?  A 42-38 game?  If that's your argument then the ACC is better than the SEC (1-0 but we both know this isn't true).  Both conferences have six teams ranked in the BCS top 25.  All I was saying is as of right now I think the Big 12 has a slight edge in overall conference strength....so does Jeff Sagarin

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc11.htm

The best team in the ACC, Clemson, beat a not so good Auburn team (who could easily be 3-5) at home. Big whoop. Boise St. beat UGA and I don't think the Mountain West is better than the SEC.

Arkansas and Texas A&M are comparable teams in their conferences(2nd tier) and Arkansas won, thus the comparison, the only real comparison outside of theorizing who would win.

1 game is kind of a small sample size. Bowl season will likely show what conference was stronger

1 > 0

[capt. scotty]

So one head to head matchup determines conference depth and strength?  A 42-38 game?  If that's your argument then the ACC is better than the SEC (1-0 but we both know this isn't true).  Both conferences have six teams ranked in the BCS top 25.  All I was saying is as of right now I think the Big 12 has a slight edge in overall conference strength....so does Jeff Sagarin

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc11.htm

The best team in the ACC, Clemson, beat a not so good Auburn team (who could easily be 3-5) at home. Big whoop. Boise St. beat UGA and I don't think the Mountain West is better than the SEC.

Arkansas and Texas A&M are comparable teams in their conferences(2nd tier) and Arkansas won, thus the comparison, the only real comparison outside of theorizing who would win.

1 game is kind of a small sample size. Bowl season will likely show what conference was stronger

1 > 0

Great mathematics, Pythagoras

[capt. scotty]

Samsonite!!! .....I was way off on how good Wisky was/is.

I mostly watched Stanford/USC instead of that game though, helluva game! I actually think Barkley looked arguably better than Luck

[iLikeBeer]

Samsonite!!! .....I was way off on how good Wisky was/is.

I mostly watched Stanford/USC instead of that game though, helluva game! I actually think Barkley looked arguably better than Luck

I don't think it's about being way off on how good Wisky is/was.  They are a good football team.  Just a poorly coached football team.  I think Wisky's freefall has more to do with their coach being exposed for the fraud he is than anything else.  That and the fact that Bielema can never seem to figure out that scheduling at least one tough opponent in your non-conference schedule might actually better prepare your football team for the grind of the conference schedule more than scheduling the cupcakes Wisconsin feasts year in and year out.

Bret Bielema=One of the most Over-rated head coaches in CFB...

[kotchishm]

Thought everyone would enjoy these articles that Bammer fans put together each week.  IT'S MELTDOWN TIME!

**language warning**

Last week:
http://www.rollbamaroll.com/2011/11/1/2525434/its-meltdown-time

10/25:
http://www.rollbamaroll.com/2011/10/25/2507389/its-meltdown-time

10/18:
http://www.rollbamaroll.com/2011/10/18/2493871/its-meltdown-time

You can find older ones too, I think they are hilarious.

[capt. scotty]

GAME OF THE CENTURY _{of the week} !!!!

[iLikeBeer]

GAME OF THE CENTURY _{of the week} !!!!

I'm so sick of the hype this game is getting?!  It's almost nauseating.  I'll be so glad when ESPN can actually talk about the rest of college football after this week...  ::)

[ophidiophobia]

GAME OF THE CENTURY _{of the week} !!!!

I'm so sick of the hype this game is getting?!  It's almost nauseating.  I'll be so glad when ESPN can actually talk about the rest of college football after this week...  ::)

I'm really excited for this game, but I've had to stay away from ESPN the last few day. The hype is too much. I'm ready for my Pokes to move into the #2 spot tomorrow.

[capt. scotty]

GAME OF THE CENTURY _{of the week} !!!!

I'm so sick of the hype this game is getting?!  It's almost nauseating.  I'll be so glad when ESPN can actually talk about the rest of college football after this week...  ::)

I dont watch ESPN enough to really be sick of it, all I watch for the most part is PTI, ATH, and 1st&10. That said, I realize its #1 and #2, but what if its not all that good of a game? Id be shocked if its as good as Stanford/USC was last week. It will probably be a good game, but I wouldnt be surprised if Bama wins like 27-17 in a game that might not even be as close as that score would make you think.

I will be just as excited/interested for Sooners/Okie St and Stanford/Oregon as I am for this game tonight, and for selfish reasons, how Penn St looks the next few weeks vs NEB, @ tOSU, and @Wisky.

[pawpaw]

Burn in hell, Sandusky. Fuckin' piece of shit. Fuck him. Fuck Penn State for allowing him to operate his camps. It's absolutely disgusting, all of it.

[Jon T.]

Burn in hell, Sandusky. Fuckin' piece of shit. Fuck him. Fuck Penn State for allowing him to operate his camps. It's absolutely disgusting, all of it.

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[iLikeBeer]

Burn in hell, Sandusky. Fuckin' piece of shit. Fuck him. Fuck Penn State for allowing him to operate his camps. It's absolutely disgusting, all of it.

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Totally agreed.  What a sickening and disturbing story.  Really not much there to defend PSU when you look at it from the perspective that by sweeping Sandusky's raping of a 10 year old in a PSU locker room shower under the rug, they basically condoned his deplorable behavior and allowed it to continue for an additional 10 years?! 

Thought this quote from the PA Attorney General says it best and really makes PSU look foolish:

The grand jury noted that Sandusky was barred from the school district attended by the victim in 2009, after the boy's mother reported allegations of sexual assault to the school.  That matter was promptly reported to authorities, as required by Pennsylvania law - a report that marked the start of an extensive investigation by Pennsylvania State Police and the Attorney General's Office.    
The quick action by high school staff members in Clinton County in response to reports of a possible sexual assault by Sandusky is in marked contrast to the reaction of top officials at Penn State University, who had actually received a first-hand report of a sexual attack by Sandusky seven years earlier.

[Taterbug]

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/11/07/sandusky_grand_jury_presentment.pdf?hpt=hp_t1

The link above is the grand jury findings.  I hope this guy gets put in general population when he is locked up.  And the people that covered it should be considered accomplices.  I feel bad for all the good people at Penn State that now have to deal with the carnage this asshole left.

[BH]

OK, I give, the SEC IS better than the BIG12..... ;D

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/7199062/missouri-tigers-move-sec-official-big-12-hurdles-remain

In all seriousness though, I'm kind of depressed that we are losing our big rivals.   We have played KU since 1907.  1907!   That blows.   I am happy with the stability of the SEC and not having to worry about opening the paper every morning to see what's going on.

I still believe over the last 10 years that the Big 12 is by far the best conference if you factor in football AND basketball.

I also believe, unlike the local and national media, that Mizzou will be able to compete in the SEC.   Mock up any future schedule and it doesn't look any worse than what we played this year in the Big 12.

[Tracy 2112]

OK, I give, the SEC IS better than the BIG12..... ;D

[BH]

OK, I give, the SEC IS better than the BIG12..... ;D

One of the things I've always had on my bucket list was to see an SEC football game.   Watching Mizzou play Kentucky in Columbia, MO (although awesome) is not exactly what I had in mind.