Red Rocks - August 14

Lonndown27 · Aug 16, 2015, 03:31 AM

Quote from: ericm on Aug 15, 2015, 02:40 PM
Quote from: Lonndown27 on Aug 15, 2015, 02:25 PM
Quote from: ericm on Aug 15, 2015, 11:27 AM
Quote from: Lonndown27 on Aug 15, 2015, 10:44 AM
it was an amazing experience, there's really nothing to complain about.

Well why all the complaining in your last post, and this one then?

Because I'm being honest haha

You can certainly be honest,and post your opinions all you want. No problem there.

It's throwing out 7-8 complaints in a couple of posts, and then saying there's nothing to complain about that's got me scratching my head.

they weren't so much complaints as more just "I Wish they'd done this" or "i wish they'd done that" and everybody has those. I think my post made it very clear I fucking loved every second of it, as I should and as everybody should. It was worth 50 bucks to me, especially getting a record of it too

Lonndown27 · Aug 16, 2015, 03:44 AM

I was basically figuring out my thoughts and wrestling between certain thoughts out loud hahah i am definitely a head scratcher Ericm, this won't be the last time you scratch your head at some weird shit I say hahah

Lonndown27 · Aug 16, 2015, 03:48 AM

after replaying the stream three times, I've come to realize that as cool as the experiment was, it'd have been best to not have done it, cause that was fast becoming one of the best Steams ever, it had so much beauty, like Jim's voice on the "at least not to me" was so pained and agonized it was making me misty to hear the purposeful cracking in his voice, it was a phenomenal vocal performance and he nailed the SO!! at the beginning. Steam Engine absolutely takes you on a journey, and them taking a detour every now and then is one thing, but the FIRST time i see Steam Engine live, would I want them to break it up like that? FUCK NO. but is it a cool experiment? Yes, and I think there's better songs that can be mish-mashed, like Cobra could fit with about three billion different things...

ericm · Aug 16, 2015, 07:20 AM

Quote from: Lonndown27 on Aug 16, 2015, 03:44 AM
I was basically figuring out my thoughts and wrestling between certain thoughts out loud hahah i am definitely a head scratcher Ericm, this won't be the last time you scratch your head at some weird shit I say hahah

Ah well, that explains it then.

Like I said, I was just trying to figure out your posts, definitely not trying to keep you from making them.

I'll keep this post in mind going forward, and if there's any more head scratching, I'll be sure to call you on it so you can straighten me out..

slappymoe · Aug 16, 2015, 08:33 AM

looks like someone missed out on jim's message of spreading the love.

DayDrinkin · Aug 16, 2015, 10:37 AM

Anybody have an estimate on how many early entry RollCallers were at Red Rocks? I'm just curious how many rows they filled?

layin low · Aug 16, 2015, 11:07 AM

Quote from: DayDrinkin on Aug 16, 2015, 10:37 AM
Anybody have an estimate on how many early entry RollCallers were at Red Rocks? I'm just curious how many rows they filled?

Give or take, about the first 5 rows or so. Couple hundred people maybe?

parkervb · Aug 16, 2015, 11:27 AM

Quote from: dookie shoot bandit on Aug 15, 2015, 11:34 AM
I get that some people may think wordless is getting old. I dunno... I still love it. It works every time.
But it is so much better as the opener or the start of the encore. So wher they had it last night, was great for me.
Same as victory dance for me. The whole Circuital tour, it fit perfect as the opening song.

I like WC, don't love it but I think its a great opener to get everyone involved in the show right away. I would have liked them to open the encore with OBH as a curveball but that's my only quibble if you will.

parkervb · Aug 16, 2015, 11:29 AM

Quote from: hendo9591 on Aug 16, 2015, 08:01 AM
ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING. I was sitting front row right behind the "one big family crowd" towards the right of the stage And one of the girls with that crowd continued to scream at me during dondante because I was singing to Loud. Listen you little smurf wherver you are you are the most hateful Bitch I have ever met in my life. Even after I explained to her how my best friend had recently passed away in a car accident and that the song was extra emotional for me tonight she continued to flip me off and stare at me angrily the rest of the night. You are a disgusting excuse of a human being Jim James would be repulsed by you and you gave your "one big family" a horrible image. Shame on you

that's awful. I'd much rather see someone singing than chatting away or on the phone.

Sorry for the loss of your friend. Sing loud. Sing proud. They hear you and that's all that matters.

Lonndown27 · Aug 16, 2015, 05:14 PM

I cant even fathom how fucked up that is just disgusting to me that even AFTER you tell her why you're singing, its like she kept trying to get you angry or something. She can take a One Big Fist and stick it up her ass! Seriously, dont be phased by that drunken bitch! Im sorry if she in any way fucked with your experience. Let it be known, if you were around 100% RCllrs that would NEVER happen in a million years...I'm speechless that someone did this shit to you seriously...did she not hear Jim? Back the fuck off and chill out, and maybe stop drinking cause you obviously can't handle it little lady....good god... hendo9591, I feel ya bro...i'm glad you disarmed her by not letting her ruin it for you

Lonndown27 · Aug 16, 2015, 06:32 PM

Jim, trying to claw that bitch's eyes out during the set!

Santo · Aug 16, 2015, 07:05 PM

Quote from: layin low on Aug 16, 2015, 11:07 AM
Quote from: DayDrinkin on Aug 16, 2015, 10:37 AM
Anybody have an estimate on how many early entry RollCallers were at Red Rocks? I'm just curious how many rows they filled?

Give or take, about the first 5 rows or so. Couple hundred people maybe?

We were in row 10 or 11, wanted to be closer to the center, so we got a few rows back. We estimated about 500 maybe more. Its tough to say though, a lot of people were doing the old blanket reserve, saving seats for their non Roll Call friends.

Santo · Aug 16, 2015, 07:08 PM

Anybody catch if there was code for the show download? In 2012 they put something on the screen and at the merch boot. I didn't see anything, but was too excited and didn't pay attention.

Lonndown27 · Aug 16, 2015, 07:57 PM

wouldnt it be on the ticket stub? I hope we get the recordings soon! I cannot wait to revisit the opening of Steam Engine..Jim's never sung that song better in my opinion, I loved how pained his voice was

raheuer · Aug 16, 2015, 10:22 PM

We were RC early admission and in row 9. Some of that one big family crew were pretty nice, but one lady (I bet it's the awful lady referenced earlier) was just so rude. She yelled at us all waiting in the early admission like we were stupid. Everyone was just kind of like "who the hell is this bitch???" This was my first live MMJ experience and I'm so glad the great people outshone the awful folks with similarly awful attitudes

Santo · Aug 16, 2015, 11:18 PM

Quote from: Lonndown27 on Aug 16, 2015, 07:57 PM
wouldnt it be on the ticket stub? I hope we get the recordings soon! I cannot wait to revisit the opening of Steam Engine..Jim's never sung that song better in my opinion, I loved how pained his voice was

According to the live stream info, it should be released on or before August 21.

Didn't see anything on the ticket that would indicate a download, unless they use the barcode number. I'm not even certain that its included with the ticket this time. Either way, I'll be happy.

Frank G · Aug 16, 2015, 11:35 PM

Just my .02, but I was disappointed with the Red Rocks show. Did anyone else go to The Fox in Atlanta and to RR? I will say the only reason i am disappointed is because I saw Atlanta the previous weekend. RR was nothing more than Atlanta crammed into a 3:17 min show...which was incredible, but I hope you see my point. Think about it, the Steam > Memories > Steam first surfaced in Atlanta and was just insane. First ever and totally put the crowd in a place of wanting more. Also look at Part 1 & Part 2 played back to back for the first time ever as well, at least that I recall. They did both of these at RR which seems to cheapen the experience a bit. Why no out of this world covers to start the night off in a tear? Not even an old rarity or Tyrone or at least throw a Bear / September in for the first handful of tunes.

Anyone feel me on this? Again, do not get me wrong RR was an incredible experience. But if you saw both nights at The Fox in Atlanta, I would really like to know your opinion. I hope they are not like Tedeschi Trucks where you only need to see them once per tour based on the similar set lists.

I will end with a question. If you saw 5-8+ shows this tour, would you fly to Europe to see them? Would you head to Boston and then to NYC to see all shows? After the last few to close this tour, I am not so sure I would. And that makes me sad.

I love this band with my entire being. I love what Jim writes and I love what they stand for. But I wish they would take it to the next level for the fans. Perhaps they will and perhaps I will be surprised in Europe. Dying to hit Amsterdam based on the last time they played in '08.

Share your thoughts as I'm curious to know everyone's thoughts. I love the fans, I love you, and I love the band. This statement is in no way taking anything away from what they are doing, but an honest assessment of what I experienced and my thoughts.

Frank.

rna2525 · Aug 16, 2015, 11:56 PM

Hey Frank G,

I wasn't at red rocks for the exact reason u explained in your post.The band while on a new album tour just won't give you what you want.IMO they are still going above and beyond but i personally believe it will be more of the same in europe maybe worse since they want more of the "hits"being they go there less than the states.

On the flip side they have not played 4days at 1 venue so NY is a huge question mark of whats gonna happen there & I'm sure LA will get a 3-4 day stint on the 2nd leg of this tour.

They are good at mixing things up so id imagine a must event in 2016.

Keep posting great posts like the above and I do hope people don't take it as criticism.

Lonndown27 · Aug 17, 2015, 12:05 AM

Quote from: Frank G on Aug 16, 2015, 11:35 PM
Just my .02, but I was disappointed with the Red Rocks show. Did anyone else go to The Fox in Atlanta and to RR? I will say the only reason i am disappointed is because I saw Atlanta the previous weekend. RR was nothing more than Atlanta crammed into a 3:17 min show...which was incredible, but I hope you see my point. Think about it, the Steam > Memories > Steam first surfaced in Atlanta and was just insane. First ever and totally put the crowd in a place of wanting more. Also look at Part 1 & Part 2 played back to back for the first time ever as well, at least that I recall. They did both of these at RR which seems to cheapen the experience a bit. Why no out of this world covers to start the night off in a tear? Not even an old rarity or Tyrone or at least throw a Bear / September in for the first handful of tunes.

Anyone feel me on this? Again, do not get me wrong RR was an incredible experience. But if you saw both nights at The Fox in Atlanta, I would really like to know your opinion. I hope they are not like Tedeschi Trucks where you only need to see them once per tour based on the similar set lists.

I will end with a question. If you saw 5-8+ shows this tour, would you fly to Europe to see them? Would you head to Boston and then to NYC to see all shows? After the last few to close this tour, I am not so sure I would. And that makes me sad.

I love this band with my entire being. I love what Jim writes and I love what they stand for. But I wish they would take it to the next level for the fans. Perhaps they will and perhaps I will be surprised in Europe. Dying to hit Amsterdam based on the last time they played in '08.

Share your thoughts as I'm curious to know everyone's thoughts. I love the fans, I love you, and I love the band. This statement is in no way taking anything away from what they are doing, but an honest assessment of what I experienced and my thoughts.

Frank.

i feel like it was absolutely a brilliant show! but was it the setlist I would've chosen? NOT AT ALL, despite the amazing jams thrown into all the hits, making them a lot less hit-ier and juicing them up and reinventing them. I totally feel like they could've thrown in a How Do You Know or an Oxen for god's sake, considering those two are beasts and MUST be heard by their mainstream fans. There seems to be, for the first time in their careers, that there's a vast group of people there at shows to get fucked up and yell stupid shit and talk over Jim during the quieter numbers and that BOTHERS me.

I think you're a tad cynical, I think they pulled out all the stops for the fans, given that they gave us something very special with the Danny Clinch filmed show. Yes, I would've replaced about 10-11 songs with choices of my own, that may not please the housewives or alcoholics in the crowd, but would just about make everyone on here's year: Come Closer, How Do You Know, Oxen, Cobra...

but lets keep in the perspective of this: what other band would've done half the things this band has done for us? 3 hour shows? at least being mindful enough to ask fans for requests (whether they play them is another issue)

We ALL love this band.

I feel there is a vibe on here whenever someone posts something critical of the band, people get defensive. Let's stop that. It solves nothing. Lets listen to each other and realize that the person you may disagree with, loves this band just as much as you do :)

Peace and Loves to My Jacket Peoples:
LONN :)

ruralt · Aug 17, 2015, 01:55 AM

It's probably because I'm so fresh, but I thought the show was perfect. The only point I'd put against them was Memories sounded like it was in a different key, but I haven't been following the tour via social media, just seen a set list here and there, so the Steam sandwich blew my fucking mind regardless. I involuntarily blurted "oh my god!" when they jumped back into Steam.

I had such a great time, and it bums me out to see people criticize their decisions. I think it's easy to forget that they're in charge - this is how they make the bulk of their income. To me it's a privilege to see them, and if I'm lucky enough to get the chance to do so, how could I possibly complain? But I also know people have a right to voice their complaints and concerns, and I understand why seasoned show goers would do so. If I'd seen them a gazillion times I wonder if I would be doing the same thing.

I dunno. I just feel like if I had the chance to see them as much as I want to, I still wouldn't care, just because I'd be so happy to see them. There are a lot of people who would've loved go to this show but couldn't and I'm thankful I got to witness it.

Just my opinion. Not trying to nag anybody. Just got some post-show blues.