Jacket Fans: Stoned, Drunk, Rude, & Stupid?

[BH]

I had a guy want to fight me for standing in front of him at a Crowes show for one friggin' song.  I hate sitting but I usually respect the people behind me.  But  I couldn't help myself and he got all bent out of shape.  I also love when people stand in front of me mahg33ta!  What can you do!

[ericm]

at one point there was a kid a few feet to my right with a glowstick.....he was working feverishly trying to break it so it would shower his victims with glowing goo.....i temporarily lost focus on the show, began imagining myself pummeling him with repeated blows about the head and neck......forcing him to drink the icky contents......holding his severed head up on pole, with two glowsticks crammed in his nostrils, serving as a cautionary tale to anyone else so inclined........but like i said, we're a pretty mellow group. 8-)

;D  

[ALady]

Personally I don't care whether anyone talks, smokes, drinks, or shoots up during a show as long as they are cognizant of the point where their good time starts to infringe on someone else's good time and can regulate themselves accordingly. That goes for both sides.  If the vibe is good, and people are respectful of each other, you can deal with just about anything.

The weird thing is that even if you politely address someone about something that's affecting your experience, they almost always get irate and holler "BUT THIS IS A CONCERT!"  It's odd how that excuse doesn't really work in any other social situation, isn't it?

The folks I went to the show with have been seeing the Jacket in Nashville since the Exit/In days, and were shocked by the crowd - one even wondered aloud "when did MMJ turn into DMB?"  The rude folks in our section all appeared to be in their thirties, which is definitely old enough to know better.  I'm 33 myself and certainly not planning to retire from the pit anytime soon.  I don't think we can blame all the bad behavior on the kids...though goodness knows I was one of those kids back in the day.   ;D  

[when I was 15ish, I went to see the Violent Femmes at a show sponsored by the local college radio station, which we basically worshiped.  We pushed our way up to the rail and proceeded to chainsmoke clove cigarettes, talk loudly and otherwise act "cool".   ;D  The next morning we were all horrified when the DJ specifically mentioned the "lame high school kids" in the front row.  Sometimes I think everyone should have an uber-humbling experience like that...   ;D]

Anyway.  This is not 'Nam, this is a concert.  There are rules.  MARK IT ZERO!!!!   ;D

[ms. yvon]

 ;D ;D ;D

i try to roll with things as much as possible, but when someone gets out of hand i've got an effective withering glare.  ;)  i'm also close enough to the age of most concert kids parents that getting a stern look and clear directive, "No." will make them stop.

[ALady]

yvon, I'm standing near you at MPP then    ;)

Actually, I want to completely envelop myself in boardies, like George Costanza in velvet.   ;D

[Sticky Icky Green Stuff]

A few years back I went with my friend to an allman brothers show, we scored lawn tickets for 3bucks since it didn't sell out and spent our time getting completely hammered in the lot with the other fans.  Met some really awesome people.  We met these older dudes who said they smoked a joint with gov't mule back in the day at the blind pig and all this stuff.   after that we went in to DTE and I was fucked up.  I mean totally fucked up.  Was smoking mad joints, got a couple beers inside, was on xanax, etc.  In other words I don't really remember most of that night but I do remember somehow getting into the pavilion and then from there we were given two tickets for 4th row.  It was a few songs before the encore so we bolted down there instantly.  Warren and Derek were ripping a wicked version of Jessica and I was just drinking this beer, dancing in the aisle all dancing.  

The security guard was like "you can't be in the aisle" and I was all "wh.at?! "?!" and then this guy grabbed me and pulled me back into the row and at first I was PISSED because I was all like "wtf is this guy doing all grabbing my shit" and then I looked at him and he was smiling so I instantly started laughing because I thought security was fucking with me.  We then blazed a joint and rocked fucking hard.  I was right in from of Greg Allman yelling "GREG FUCKING ALLMAN WOO!!!!!!!!!" like a psycho and he was all gregin' it and they came back out and ripped face off.  Then we left.

I didn't plan to get that fucked up and the show didn't cost me much and I had seen them before.  but there it is.  somehow, I got 4th row and it is all completely thanks to beer, weed, luck, and balls.

I've only gotten kicked out of a show once and that was because the usher bitch was racist against whitey.   I was at smashing pumpkins with aisle seats once again (god damn that shit) and this bitch kept saying "you can't dance in the aisle" and I was all "oh come on I love you" and she was all "blah blah blah" being all mean to me and then left.  I continued my dancing and sparked a doobie to share with some people in my area.  Crazy bitch comes back and is like "Why are you in the aisle again - (mid-sentence) - AND YOU'RE SMOKING A JOINT?!!?! COME WITH ME!"  I was like "What the fuck?  Are you serious?" and she was all being a bitch.  I chucked a couple doobies in pocket into the audience because when I tried to get rid of my roach I wasn't fast enough and she actually found it and picked it up.

she walked me to the front and there was a cop and she was all "this guy needs to get kicked out" and the people at the door were all "why?" and she was all "because he was smoking!" and slammed down this little roach on the table in front of the cop.  I took the roach and did a perfect swoosh into the garbage can with it and peaced the fuck out the doors running down the streets of detroit.  when I realized nobody was chasing I went back to my car in the underground garage and waited in fear until my friend got back from the show.  

only two times I have ever been in any kind of trouble at the hundreds of shows I've seen.  In short, it takes a lot of fucking effort and a completely lack of care to get thrown out at a show.  If they threw out everyone who was an ass they wouldn't make any profits from their 8dollar beers.  

[Tracy 3000]

at one point there was a kid a few feet to my right with a glowstick.....he was working feverishly trying to break it so it would shower his victims with glowing goo.....i temporarily lost focus on the show, began imagining myself pummeling him with repeated blows about the head and neck......forcing him to drink the icky contents......holding his severed head up on pole, with two glowsticks crammed in his nostrils, serving as a cautionary tale to anyone else so inclined........but like i said, we're a pretty mellow group. 8-)

I was right there near you and I would have supported this action. It would be pretty cool to see the guy holding the shoe react to your severed head on a pole.

[Tracy 3000]

Anyway.  This is not 'Nam, this is a concert.

nice one

[Ruckus]

Were they as bad as this guy?   ;D  Coachella this year I guess.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmwB-oKwk5U[/media]

[celi]

This has been really bothering me, and I'm really glad that someone brought it up...
get drunk, get high - I don't care, its a concert. Just don't be surprised if I 1, laugh at you or 2, push your drunk ass off of me if you land on me.
what I can't get past is the disrespect. throwing things at the band? are you effing kidding me? who raises these nasty little mongrels? and the talking... for crissakes, the talking. why in THE HELL would anyone pay 50 dollars to go to a show and then talk through the whole thing? I mean I LOVE Dondante, but everytime Jacket plays it, I'm thinking, "here we go... I have to listen to Mr. Polo shirt-fucker talk about god knows what and give his buddy a pictoral slide show on his I-phone." Has going to a concert become simply bragging rights rather than having an experience? like putting a stupid sticker on the back of your car that tells the world that you ran a marathon?
And it isn't just MMJ shows - it is every concert I've been to in the past 10 or so years. I know Jim is a classy cat and all, but I really wish he'd take the Jeff Tweedy approach, and call these little rat bastards out.

end rant.

[Sticky Icky Green Stuff]

This has been really bothering me, and I'm really glad that someone brought it up...
get drunk, get high - I don't care, its a concert. Just don't be surprised if I 1, laugh at you or 2, push your drunk ass off of me if you land on me.
what I can't get past is the disrespect. throwing things at the band? are you effing kidding me? who raises these nasty little mongrels? and the talking... for crissakes, the talking. why in THE HELL would anyone pay 50 dollars to go to a show and then talk through the whole thing? I mean I LOVE Dondante, but everytime Jacket plays it, I'm thinking, "here we go... I have to listen to Mr. Polo shirt-fucker talk about god knows what and give his buddy a pictoral slide show on his I-phone." Has going to a concert become simply bragging rights rather than having an experience? like putting a stupid sticker on the back of your car that tells the world that you ran a marathon?
And it isn't just MMJ shows - it is every concert I've been to in the past 10 or so years. I know Jim is a classy cat and all, but I really wish he'd take the Jeff Tweedy approach, and call these little rat bastards out.

end rant.

I made a poll on this dave matthews band message board about the lamest shit dmb fans do at a show and do you what won the poll? (other).  do you want to know what this collective "other" group was complaining about?

Getting Pissed and Puked on.

At DMB shows there have been 100's of documented incidents of people getting pissed and puked on.  From the looks of it, those fans are trickling in along with the pearl jam hardcore's, some phish phans, and other bigger fan bases.  

It's going to get worse I think.  The first "getting pissed on at an MMJ show" story will be the end of the fanbase's purity.  Once the pissers come, we are fucked.

[manicfanatic]

This has been really bothering me, and I'm really glad that someone brought it up...
get drunk, get high - I don't care, its a concert. Just don't be surprised if I 1, laugh at you or 2, push your drunk ass off of me if you land on me.
what I can't get past is the disrespect. throwing things at the band? are you effing kidding me? who raises these nasty little mongrels? and the talking... for crissakes, the talking. why in THE HELL would anyone pay 50 dollars to go to a show and then talk through the whole thing? I mean I LOVE Dondante, but everytime Jacket plays it, I'm thinking, "here we go... I have to listen to Mr. Polo shirt-fucker talk about god knows what and give his buddy a pictoral slide show on his I-phone." Has going to a concert become simply bragging rights rather than having an experience? like putting a stupid sticker on the back of your car that tells the world that you ran a marathon?
And it isn't just MMJ shows - it is every concert I've been to in the past 10 or so years. I know Jim is a classy cat and all, but I really wish he'd take the Jeff Tweedy approach, and call these little rat bastards out.

end rant.

I made a poll on this dave matthews band message board about the lamest shit dmb fans do at a show and do you what won the poll? (other).  do you want to know what this collective "other" group was complaining about?

Getting Pissed and Puked on.

At DMB shows there have been 100's of documented incidents of people getting pissed and puked on.  From the looks of it, those fans are trickling in along with the pearl jam hardcore's, some phish phans, and other bigger fan bases.  

It's going to get worse I think.  The first "getting pissed on at an MMJ show" story will be the end of the fanbase's purity.  Once the pissers come, we are fucked.

I hope you are wrong.  But, I kinda think you are right.  It's coming to this at some point. >:( >:( >:(

[Sticky Icky Green Stuff]

This has been really bothering me, and I'm really glad that someone brought it up...
get drunk, get high - I don't care, its a concert. Just don't be surprised if I 1, laugh at you or 2, push your drunk ass off of me if you land on me.
what I can't get past is the disrespect. throwing things at the band? are you effing kidding me? who raises these nasty little mongrels? and the talking... for crissakes, the talking. why in THE HELL would anyone pay 50 dollars to go to a show and then talk through the whole thing? I mean I LOVE Dondante, but everytime Jacket plays it, I'm thinking, "here we go... I have to listen to Mr. Polo shirt-fucker talk about god knows what and give his buddy a pictoral slide show on his I-phone." Has going to a concert become simply bragging rights rather than having an experience? like putting a stupid sticker on the back of your car that tells the world that you ran a marathon?
And it isn't just MMJ shows - it is every concert I've been to in the past 10 or so years. I know Jim is a classy cat and all, but I really wish he'd take the Jeff Tweedy approach, and call these little rat bastards out.

end rant.

I made a poll on this dave matthews band message board about the lamest shit dmb fans do at a show and do you what won the poll? (other).  do you want to know what this collective "other" group was complaining about?

Getting Pissed and Puked on.

At DMB shows there have been 100's of documented incidents of people getting pissed and puked on.  From the looks of it, those fans are trickling in along with the pearl jam hardcore's, some phish phans, and other bigger fan bases.  

It's going to get worse I think.  The first "getting pissed on at an MMJ show" story will be the end of the fanbase's purity.  Once the pissers come, we are fucked.

I hope you are wrong.  But, I kinda think you are right.  It's coming to this at some point. >:( >:( >:(

as much as it sucks, it's an impossible fix unless somehow this band finds a way to keep the majority of minors from drinking.  That would require more cops and that would be pretty uncool.

[celi]

This has been really bothering me, and I'm really glad that someone brought it up...
get drunk, get high - I don't care, its a concert. Just don't be surprised if I 1, laugh at you or 2, push your drunk ass off of me if you land on me.
what I can't get past is the disrespect. throwing things at the band? are you effing kidding me? who raises these nasty little mongrels? and the talking... for crissakes, the talking. why in THE HELL would anyone pay 50 dollars to go to a show and then talk through the whole thing? I mean I LOVE Dondante, but everytime Jacket plays it, I'm thinking, "here we go... I have to listen to Mr. Polo shirt-fucker talk about god knows what and give his buddy a pictoral slide show on his I-phone." Has going to a concert become simply bragging rights rather than having an experience? like putting a stupid sticker on the back of your car that tells the world that you ran a marathon?
And it isn't just MMJ shows - it is every concert I've been to in the past 10 or so years. I know Jim is a classy cat and all, but I really wish he'd take the Jeff Tweedy approach, and call these little rat bastards out.

end rant.

I made a poll on this dave matthews band message board about the lamest shit dmb fans do at a show and do you what won the poll? (other).  do you want to know what this collective "other" group was complaining about?

Getting Pissed and Puked on.

At DMB shows there have been 100's of documented incidents of people getting pissed and puked on.  From the looks of it, those fans are trickling in along with the pearl jam hardcore's, some phish phans, and other bigger fan bases.  

It's going to get worse I think.  The first "getting pissed on at an MMJ show" story will be the end of the fanbase's purity.  Once the pissers come, we are fucked.

I certainly hope that it doesn't come to that. I'm far too old to be getting in to fights at shows. Yuck.

[Sticky Icky Green Stuff]

There are a lot of factors when trying to negotiate with people who are truly being senseless.  As long as we can maintain some kind of integrity around here the core will stay strong and those attitude will spread eventually.  If people are talking when they shouldn't the "shhh" or "shut the fuck up" work, especially when done with several other people helping you isolate the talker.  If "Hey, could you shut the fuck up" were common practice our numbers would win.  We have a small window before we're flooded so to speak.  We must build the levee stronger this time.  because we all know what happens when the levee breaks.

this might all sound like paranoia to people but it's the cold hard truth.  we are the information source for this band for the most part.  n00bs eventually will come here and try to lay claim to this place as if they were always here, same with the shows.  we need to point the fuck ups in the right direction.  which doesn't have to be the door, I'm sure plenty of idiots pump mmj up.  I know I'm an idiot and I definitely pump them the fuck up.  we're like all leaves from the same tree yo. sheeit.

[BH]

This has been really bothering me, and I'm really glad that someone brought it up...
get drunk, get high - I don't care, its a concert. Just don't be surprised if I 1, laugh at you or 2, push your drunk ass off of me if you land on me.
what I can't get past is the disrespect. throwing things at the band? are you effing kidding me? who raises these nasty little mongrels? and the talking... for crissakes, the talking. why in THE HELL would anyone pay 50 dollars to go to a show and then talk through the whole thing? I mean I LOVE Dondante, but everytime Jacket plays it, I'm thinking, "here we go... I have to listen to Mr. Polo shirt-fucker talk about god knows what and give his buddy a pictoral slide show on his I-phone." Has going to a concert become simply bragging rights rather than having an experience? like putting a stupid sticker on the back of your car that tells the world that you ran a marathon?
And it isn't just MMJ shows - it is every concert I've been to in the past 10 or so years. I know Jim is a classy cat and all, but I really wish he'd take the Jeff Tweedy approach, and call these little rat bastards out.

end rant.

I made a poll on this dave matthews band message board about the lamest shit dmb fans do at a show and do you what won the poll? (other).  do you want to know what this collective "other" group was complaining about?

Getting Pissed and Puked on.

At DMB shows there have been 100's of documented incidents of people getting pissed and puked on.  From the looks of it, those fans are trickling in along with the pearl jam hardcore's, some phish phans, and other bigger fan bases.  

It's going to get worse I think.  The first "getting pissed on at an MMJ show" story will be the end of the fanbase's purity.  Once the pissers come, we are fucked.

Oh, we had a pisser a couple years ago.  I'd love to find that thread.  It was a classic.

[Sticky Icky Green Stuff]

the getting pissed on stories blow me away.  to just accidentally piss on somebody during a concert... fucked up.   "oh man I don't want to miss this song everybody so I'm just going to piss on you".  I'm a lazy stoner and guarantee I want to go the bathroom way less than almost anybody there but fuck pissing on people.  it's just not worth it.  being drunk only half explains it.  

fuckin pissers are the worst.  somebody needs to make a sign or something.

[Tracy 3000]

Oh, we had a pisser a couple years ago.  I'd love to find that thread.  It was a classic.

just ask: (it gets rolling (or flowing) on page 2)

http://www.mymorningjacket.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1165126021/0

[kymomandstuff]

Oh, we had a pisser a couple years ago.  I'd love to find that thread.  It was a classic.

just ask: (it gets rolling (or flowing) on page 2)

http://www.mymorningjacket.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1165126021/0

Remember when rubbing the dog's nose in it's piss was used as a form of house training(cruel and unusual btw)?However,when the pup is a human asshat who thinks MMJ's first album is "Evil Urges".......Hmmm

[danz]

Oh, we had a pisser a couple years ago.  I'd love to find that thread.  It was a classic.

just ask: (it gets rolling (or flowing) on page 2)

http://www.mymorningjacket.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1165126021/0

AMAZING!!!!