oh so far walt and jesse have come. so many questions to be answered. will walt become even higher up on the ladder, perhaps taking over Gus' old spot? will his family survive? will hank recover in time to tear shit up? let's do it. tonight 10pm. look forward to some after show reviews. this thread contains spoilers from this point on.
pretty... pretty.. pretty good. the ending was a nice "welcome back" moment.
Quote from: Sticky Icky Green Stuff on Jul 17, 2011, 11:06 PM
pretty... pretty.. pretty good. the ending was a nice "welcome back" moment.
Yeah, I thought so too.
Not for nothing, but Walt is the MAN! Dude stares down the big C, and after that is like f*ck it, bring it, game on!
Quote from: ericm on Jul 18, 2011, 12:03 AM
Quote from: Sticky Icky Green Stuff on Jul 17, 2011, 11:06 PM
pretty... pretty.. pretty good. the ending was a nice "welcome back" moment.
Yeah, I thought so too.
Not for nothing, but Walt is the MAN! Dude stares down the big C, and after that is like f*ck it, bring it, game on!
they really give you your basic cables hours worth. that scene with them in the meth lab with gus was not typical television. it's so cinematic. what does gus have to say about what walt did? nothing. totally knew that guy was going to die once gus started suiting up.
Jesse eating breakfest was pretty great acting. the dude is so beat down and tired, eating some pancakes probably in shock still. he seemed even more diluted, like he's on some death trip now. survival of the fittest. "now we're on the same page". shit was solid. love how they started with the Gale subplot.
Pretty sick start to season 4. I love that Gus says nothing until just before leaving the lab. Sometimes actions speak louder than words. And then to follow that with the Walking Dead promo was some good ol' fashioned violence. It makes you wonder what we are capable of, given circumstances. What a great summer- Breaking Bad, Louis, Wilfred, Curb Your Enthusiasm.
Quote from: johnnYYac on Jul 19, 2011, 09:47 AM
Pretty sick start to season 4. I love that Gus says nothing until just before leaving the lab. Sometimes actions speak louder than words. And then to follow that with the Walking Dead promo was some good ol' fashioned violence. It makes you wonder what we are capable of, given circumstances. What a great summer- Breaking Bad, Louis, Wilfred, Curb Your Enthusiasm.
that walking dead shit was tiiight. he looks so exhausted when he's taking out those zombies with that rock. can't wait for a full season of zombies.
breaking bad night. fuck yes.
I haven't looked forward to TV like this since The Shield.
Quote from: johnnYYac on Jul 24, 2011, 07:39 PM
I haven't looked forward to TV like this since The Shield.
is the shield awesome? I never got a chance to watch it until the end of the last season. would it suck to watch it knowing the ending? but back to breaking bad.
what the fuck will even happen tonight? these episode names are fucking intense:
1.) "Box Cutter"
2.) "Thirty-Eight Snub"
3.) "Open House"
4.) "Bullet Points"
5.) "Shotgun"
6.) "Cornered"
7.) "Problem Dog"
so aggressive...
dude the ending from this week's episode was psychedelic and very deep
Quote from: darkglow on Jul 24, 2011, 11:02 PM
dude the ending from this week's episode was psychedelic and very deep
I really liked this episode a lot. opening scene with ellsworth giving walt advice about how to draw tickled me in my under pants a little. It's cool how they're showing Jesse's emotions now slowly start to sweep out. he must keep hearing Gale's voice in his head or something, hence trying to keep himself distracted. really great writing, patient when it needs to be. skyler is such a dumb dandruff flake. Mike is the man, I think the key to him is his daughter. Gus and Walt truly have a life or death game of chess going right now. Gus is powerful enough to hold off the Cartel, Walt's a genius and whatever but fuck. how are they not going to die this season? haha, I think it'd be sweet if Walt died of cancer at the end of the series. he'll probably get melted in a vat of acid by jesse while skyler watches. such a great show.
Is hank looking for the blue hue in the meth Yac, you teach chemistry right?
just watched my first episode this morning: snub. dude, like, i am so hooked...now i gots to find and watch all of the other seasons!
Sticky, I'm not sure what Hank's looking for, but interesting take. I don't teach enough chemistry to compete with Walt's product. ;)
I think Hank is looking to understand chemistry a bit better. It's definitely something.
I just want to know how they take care of the loose ends re: the notebook.
Quote from: el_chode on Jul 27, 2011, 08:52 AM
I think Hank is looking to understand chemistry a bit better. It's definitely something.
I just want to know how they take care of the loose ends re: the notebook.
the day is coming...
So Hank knows Jesse is connected to Heisenberg and the RV was the proof right? It'll be interesting to see where the notebook leads him or perhaps his partner (gomez?). if his partner solves it Hank would probably kill himself.
I can see Hank turning a blind eye or even becoming complicit.
Quote from: el_chode on Jul 27, 2011, 11:52 PM
I can see Hank turning a blind eye or even becoming complicit.
I think he's pissed as fuck at Marie for taking the money from Skyler and Walt. I think he's as pissed as Walt was at his ex- and her husband who offered to pay for his shit. the way the season is running, which has been what? like 5days so far in two episodes. how fast can Hank believably recover? It seems like it will take the entire season at the current rate. Maybe if he finds out Gus is involved he'll put that together as the Cartel shootings and think Gus is Heisenberg... Gus takes the fall for Walt's bullshit? Saul representing Gus would be hilarious.
Quote from: Sticky Icky Green Stuff on Jul 28, 2011, 12:02 AM
Quote from: el_chode on Jul 27, 2011, 11:52 PM
I can see Hank turning a blind eye or even becoming complicit.
I think he's pissed as fuck at Marie for taking the money from Skyler and Walt. I think he's as pissed as Walt was at his ex- and her husband who offered to pay for his shit. the way the season is running, which has been what? like 5days so far in two episodes. how fast can Hank believably recover? It seems like it will take the entire season at the current rate. Maybe if he finds out Gus is involved he'll put that together as the Cartel shootings and think Gus is Heisenberg... Gus takes the fall for Walt's bullshit? Saul representing Gus would be hilarious.
I think you're on to something. Walt wants Gus out, right? Well, things have a funny way of working themselves out, ya know? I can totally see that, except the problem becomes if Gus goes, then what happens to the lab?
Mike's gotta have more going on than we know.
Mike is without a doubt a major variable in what the end outcome is going to be if you ask me. pulling his gun on Gus when Vic was neck sliced, drinking at the bar constantly, helping walt and jesse put the dude in the vat of acid, etc. Mike is getting tangled in their web of bullshit and he's going to have to eventually pick a side if he hasn't already.
he's one of my favorite characters for sure.
there was also that "the bloods on your hands" moment at the bar for mike when he found the blood on his sleeve.
Neil Young - Tonight's the Night (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foydBgsse6Q#)
http://www.deadline.com/2011/08/breaking-bad-eying-two-season-final-run/ (http://www.deadline.com/2011/08/breaking-bad-eying-two-season-final-run/)
Quote from: el_chode on Aug 05, 2011, 07:59 PM
http://www.deadline.com/2011/08/breaking-bad-eying-two-season-final-run/ (http://www.deadline.com/2011/08/breaking-bad-eying-two-season-final-run/)
I always figured it'd be 5seasons. AMC is being a bag of dicks I've heard. specifically fucking with Walking Dead but from what I've heard it's still shooting season two. they're on like episode 7 or 8 so far.
Seems like tonight's episode is picking up the pace some. The first episodes of the season have been dull, I thought. I'm curious to see how Pinkman's character turns out this season.
Quote from: ophidiophobia on Aug 14, 2011, 10:13 PM
Seems like tonight's episode is picking up the pace some. The first episodes of the season have been dull, I thought. I'm curious to see how Pinkman's character turns out this season.
I think it's been pretty much perfect so far. there is an article about the season opener and what to expect. they brought up a great point about how normal series like this sort of ease you into the bigger events. breaking bad this season had to resolve some pretty huge fucking shit in that first episode. then the second two episodes were slow but necessary to keep developing the story. I look at each season as one episode basically. it's always "To be continued". so long view of watching the show start to finish those mellow tense moments are so worth it. like when walt and skyler are going over what to say to hank at dinner. it's the rebuilding of their relationship that completely disintegrated. I'm buzzin but this season the cinemotagraphy has been great. some really cool feeling to the shots. not a lot of dialogue in some places, more about putting you IN the character. it's back on fuck whatever I'm bullshiting about. oh shit! walt and skyler re-boned!!
fucking loved tonight's episode. Gus is totally making it so Walt will have motivation to kill Jesse. said it on another board but I think Gus is trying to rub his cock in walts face showing him what it takes to be Gus. how the Cartel plays into this is going to be the most interesting thing. skylers way too fat this season, it doesn't make sense. she's twice walts size when she's boning him, wtf?
(http://firstdollarframe.com/frame_picture_2.jpg)
PS loved the first promo for Walking Dead
"makes True Blood look like iCarly"
I AM THE KNOCK
New theory: Jesse's ex girlfriend will be the unraveling. I thought they wrote her off the show, but the simple fact that she still exists, Jesse still cares, and Walt is laundering his money while Jesse isn't is going to be a huge plot hole if they don't address it
So did Walt poison Brock?
Quote from: el_chode on Oct 09, 2011, 11:16 PM
So did Walt poison Brock?
That seems to be what they intend us to think. Quite an ending. I can't wait for the return of Mike next season.
Quote from: johnnYYac on Oct 09, 2011, 11:36 PM
Quote from: el_chode on Oct 09, 2011, 11:16 PM
So did Walt poison Brock?
That seems to be what they intend us to think. Quite an ending. I can't wait for the return of Mike next season.
See, at first I thought "no" it can't be that simple, and I didn't want Walt to be that evil. That's a lot of assuming for things to go certain ways for Walt. Gus had assassins at Walt's house, could be framing him - he is always one step ahead. Plus Gus was on the board of the Hospital, so he could have fixed the diagnosis in order to ensure that no more questions were asked of Jesse. The timing there between Jesse getting released from interrogation and picked up by Gus was too perfect.
But then I read this review
[SPOILERS]:
http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-alan-watching/posts/breaking-bad-face-off-say-uncle (http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-alan-watching/posts/breaking-bad-face-off-say-uncle)
And (non-spoiler) they said that plant was there in last week's episode, so I'll agree - Walt did it.
walt poisoned the fuck out of that kid and huell stole the ricin from jesse at sauls during the pat down. I read an article Vince did and he said that they're going to do something with Walts character that's never been done before. they're going to make you go from loving him to absolutely hating. walt poisoning a child in order to orchestrate jesse's reactions the last few episodes of the season was genius. evil, but awesome.
so did they show gus get up and adjust his tie just to show how soulless he is? like when you kill a snake and its body keeps moving? solid season. 16episodes left.
Let's not forget Walt sending his neighbor into the house w/2 assassins lurking about. He seems willing to sacrifice the innocent to save his ass.
This should be interesting (part 1 of 4):
http://www.avclub.com/articles/vince-gilligan-walks-us-through-season-four-of-bre,63013/ (http://www.avclub.com/articles/vince-gilligan-walks-us-through-season-four-of-bre,63013/)
http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/09/vince-gilligan-of-breaking-bad-talks-about-ending-the-season-and-the-series/?ref=television (http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/09/vince-gilligan-of-breaking-bad-talks-about-ending-the-season-and-the-series/?ref=television)
Not reading a word of this until I catch up. I recently watched the first three seasons in about 2 weeks and I now feel like I live in this show. Anyway I'm sort of screwed on season 4 - on demand only has the last 4 episodes of this season - not sure where to watch the first part of this season. Am I just screwed until the DVD comes out?
Quote from: bowl of soup on Oct 11, 2011, 03:45 PM
Not reading a word of this until I catch up. I recently watched the first three seasons in about 2 weeks and I now feel like I live in this show. Anyway I'm sort of screwed on season 4 - on demand only has the last 4 episodes of this season - not sure where to watch the first part of this season. Am I just screwed until the DVD comes out?
not sure if these work or not, give it a shot: http://www.free-tv-video-online.me/internet/breaking_bad/season_4.html (http://www.free-tv-video-online.me/internet/breaking_bad/season_4.html)
Quote from: Sticky Icky Green Stuff on Oct 11, 2011, 09:55 PM
Quote from: bowl of soup on Oct 11, 2011, 03:45 PM
Not reading a word of this until I catch up. I recently watched the first three seasons in about 2 weeks and I now feel like I live in this show. Anyway I'm sort of screwed on season 4 - on demand only has the last 4 episodes of this season - not sure where to watch the first part of this season. Am I just screwed until the DVD comes out?
not sure if these work or not, give it a shot: http://www.free-tv-video-online.me/internet/breaking_bad/season_4.html (http://www.free-tv-video-online.me/internet/breaking_bad/season_4.html)
A late thanks for this brother - allowed me to catch up and worked pretty well aside from the occassional pop-up inviting me to meet attractive Asian women; and hey, who doesn't want to meet attractive Asian women?
Just finished last night; seemed more like the end of the show rather than season. I think the show has become more about Jesse than Walt - not really a bad thing, but interesting in that Jesse was supposed to be killed off early. My guess is that next year focuses on Walt's death and with him ending up right where he started from.
Haven't read the thread because I just started Season 4 but this show has really grown on me even though I find the female characters to be nothing but annoying.
I just love the indie film sensibility in the direction of this series: the odd camera angles, the stark and sparse backdrop, lengthy conversational pauses, lack of music, etc. The series really hit its stride in Season 3 I think. I think the Fly episode was understated genius!
Anyone else immediately draw parallels between Dexter and Breaking Bad concerning the general plot though they share nothing else in common? Supremely intelligent individual in less than prestigious position where job facilitates the need to break the law for whatever reason. Loud mouthed, hyperactive sister/brother in law (also best friend) is who they are being chased by and from whom they keep their secret...etc.
Quote from: Ruckus on Oct 26, 2011, 11:21 AM
Anyone else immediately draw parallels between Dexter and Breaking Bad concerning the general plot though they share nothing else in common? Supremely intelligent individual in less than prestigious position where job facilitates the need to break the law for whatever reason. Loud mouthed, hyperactive sister/brother in law (also best friend) is who they are being chased by and from whom they keep their secret...etc.
Yep. And I'll preface this by saying possible spoiler alert, but it is just sheer speculation, but I think it's got to be their respective relatives that figures them out... right?
Quote from: Jon T. on Oct 26, 2011, 11:30 AM
Quote from: Ruckus on Oct 26, 2011, 11:21 AM
Anyone else immediately draw parallels between Dexter and Breaking Bad concerning the general plot though they share nothing else in common? Supremely intelligent individual in less than prestigious position where job facilitates the need to break the law for whatever reason. Loud mouthed, hyperactive sister/brother in law (also best friend) is who they are being chased by and from whom they keep their secret...etc.
Yep. And I'll preface this by saying possible spoiler alert, but it is just sheer speculation, but I think it's got to be their respective relatives that figures them out... right?
Hank busting Walt would be a supremely shitty way for this show to end. I really think that Walt begins his death march this year due to the cancer and winds up with nothing at the end despite all of the mayhem that he has created. Maybe he finally does something noble and takes the fall for the whole enterprise while Jesse flies off to New Zealand with his girlfriend and Brock. And what does Mike do when he returns?
Quote from: bowl of soup on Oct 26, 2011, 02:14 PM
Quote from: Jon T. on Oct 26, 2011, 11:30 AM
Quote from: Ruckus on Oct 26, 2011, 11:21 AM
Anyone else immediately draw parallels between Dexter and Breaking Bad concerning the general plot though they share nothing else in common? Supremely intelligent individual in less than prestigious position where job facilitates the need to break the law for whatever reason. Loud mouthed, hyperactive sister/brother in law (also best friend) is who they are being chased by and from whom they keep their secret...etc.
Yep. And I'll preface this by saying possible spoiler alert, but it is just sheer speculation, but I think it's got to be their respective relatives that figures them out... right?
Hank busting Walt would be a supremely shitty way for this show to end. I really think that Walt begins his death march this year due to the cancer and winds up with nothing at the end despite all of the mayhem that he has created. Maybe he finally does something noble and takes the fall for the whole enterprise while Jesse flies off to New Zealand with his girlfriend and Brock. And what does Mike do when he returns?
Season 4 SPOILER AHEAD...
I was thinking... Mike owes Jesse his life, perhaps becomes an enforcer for Walt, who becomes a true kingpin - the new Gus. That would be the start of Season 5.
Quote from: johnnYYac on Oct 26, 2011, 03:58 PM
Quote from: bowl of soup on Oct 26, 2011, 02:14 PM
Quote from: Jon T. on Oct 26, 2011, 11:30 AM
Quote from: Ruckus on Oct 26, 2011, 11:21 AM
Anyone else immediately draw parallels between Dexter and Breaking Bad concerning the general plot though they share nothing else in common? Supremely intelligent individual in less than prestigious position where job facilitates the need to break the law for whatever reason. Loud mouthed, hyperactive sister/brother in law (also best friend) is who they are being chased by and from whom they keep their secret...etc.
Yep. And I'll preface this by saying possible spoiler alert, but it is just sheer speculation, but I think it's got to be their respective relatives that figures them out... right?
Hank busting Walt would be a supremely shitty way for this show to end. I really think that Walt begins his death march this year due to the cancer and winds up with nothing at the end despite all of the mayhem that he has created. Maybe he finally does something noble and takes the fall for the whole enterprise while Jesse flies off to New Zealand with his girlfriend and Brock. And what does Mike do when he returns?
Season 4 SPOILER AHEAD...
I was thinking... Mike owes Jesse his life, perhaps becomes an enforcer for Walt, who becomes a true kingpin - the new Gus. That would be the start of Season 5.
I'm pretty sure Vince said Mike will be back next season for sure. it'll be interesting. I'm preparing myself to end up hating Walt. season 4 spoiler... brock and the flower shit feels like the first real taste of the evil Walt is going to unleash in season 5. I wouldn't be surprised if Walt ends up killing Hank or Gomez or both of them. he can build bombs, make untraceable poison compounds. I have a feeling the cartel isn't done with him yet. or maybe it will be Gus' people who come after him, I suppose that's more likely.
ALL SPOILER. I think they have to return to the beginning. He's still a dude with a death sentence and I think that they were hinting seriously towrds the end of last season that the cancer was back. Walt going kingpin does not make too much sense - he doesn't have the network or the time to develope an organization. Just because he killed Gus doesn't mean he gets to take over.
And where does he cook now? I imagine he's not welcome at the laundry. And all of his money is gone. Time to buy a new RV and call Skinny P and Badger. Mike's the biggest variable, even Vince G. acknowledged that in his interview.
All in all, not a good time to be a meth-head. The cartel had its 12 or so top guys killed and Gus had his face blown off - so its gonna be a little hard to find a good hit of meth on the streets.
Quote from: bowl of soup on Oct 27, 2011, 09:37 AM
ALL SPOILER. I think they have to return to the beginning. He's still a dude with a death sentence and I think that they were hinting seriously towrds the end of last season that the cancer was back. Walt going kingpin does not make too much sense - he doesn't have the network or the time to develope an organization. Just because he killed Gus doesn't mean he gets to take over.
And where does he cook now? I imagine he's not welcome at the laundry. And all of his money is gone. Time to buy a new RV and call Skinny P and Badger. Mike's the biggest variable, even Vince G. acknowledged that in his interview.
All in all, not a good time to be a meth-head. The cartel had its 12 or so top guys killed and Gus had his face blown off - so its gonna be a little hard to find a good hit of meth on the streets.
Unlike the wiping-out of the cartel, only Gus and his bodyguard were killed in the explosion, so Walt steps into that vacuum but has Gus's network otherwise in place. I think, between he, Jesse, and Mike they could pull it off. Perhaps a meth lab at the car wash? Walt is gonna be desperate to make back the money Sylar gave her former boss to pay his tax debt. That or he decides to go back to teaching high school chemistry until the lung cancer gets 'im. Maybe Walter Jr. becomes a meth head.
Quote from: johnnYYac on Oct 27, 2011, 03:31 PM
Quote from: bowl of soup on Oct 27, 2011, 09:37 AM
ALL SPOILER. I think they have to return to the beginning. He's still a dude with a death sentence and I think that they were hinting seriously towrds the end of last season that the cancer was back. Walt going kingpin does not make too much sense - he doesn't have the network or the time to develope an organization. Just because he killed Gus doesn't mean he gets to take over.
And where does he cook now? I imagine he's not welcome at the laundry. And all of his money is gone. Time to buy a new RV and call Skinny P and Badger. Mike's the biggest variable, even Vince G. acknowledged that in his interview.
All in all, not a good time to be a meth-head. The cartel had its 12 or so top guys killed and Gus had his face blown off - so its gonna be a little hard to find a good hit of meth on the streets.
Unlike the wiping-out of the cartel, only Gus and his bodyguard were killed in the explosion, so Walt steps into that vacuum but has Gus's network otherwise in place. I think, between he, Jesse, and Mike they could pull it off. Perhaps a meth lab at the car wash? Walt is gonna be desperate to make back the money Sylar gave her former boss to pay his tax debt. That or he decides to go back to teaching high school chemistry until the lung cancer gets 'im. Maybe Walter Jr. becomes a meth head.
yeah exactly. I kept thinking they were going to move the lab to the car wash last season so it's definitely a plausible option if you ask me. walt needs to make enough money to disappear now and take his family with him. skyler gave ted all that bread making walt have to work longer now. the never ending cycle that will inevitably turn walt insane.
also, that explosion won't go unnoticed. I think it's safe to say the Feds will be coming soon. they already sorta teased it when Jesse was questioned.
I wonder how many loose ends they'll tie up. Will it be none, like LOST? Most, like Sopranos? Or as many as possible like Battlestar (even if the explanation is sort of lame)?
You have Jesse's girlfriend getting untold amounts of money and buying a house without the job to explain it to the gov't. You have a dead Beneke. You have a shady lawyer. You've got Hank on the trail. A snooping Marie with a propensity to lie. A cartel that has seen it's top tiers decimated along with its competition.
I just re-watched the pilot (the best first-episode of anything ever) and I think the answer is in the beginning. Early in the episode, Walt is in his chemistry class and goes into a speech about what chemistry is. One of the students says something about chemistry being the study of chemicals - Walt corrects him and says that chemistry is the study of change.
The chemistry is always pure in the show - the answers to all of the problems are always rooted in chemistry. Need to kill Crazy 8 and Emillio - cause a chemical reaction in an RV that kills them. Need to shake Tuco into doing business - blow up his office with imitation meth. Need a barrel of chemicals - burn the door down with chemicals. Need to kill Gus - poison a child and blow his face off with a bomb. It goes on and on.
In the end - Walt will die. The show has always been about his inevitable death in some way. Everyone else will be changed. Jesse goes to New Zealand with his girlfriend and son to live a peaceful life. Skyler falls in love with breaking bad and maintains the operation with the help of Hank who turns after being canned by the DEA. Walt Jr. gets hooked on drugs, etc.
This:
http://www.youtube.com/embed/t4Qv2hCprbs?feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/embed/t4Qv2hCprbs?feature=player_embedded)
This promo has tied me over until Season 5: Badger's revenge.
Do not watch if you have not finsihed Season 4!
Breaking Bad - The Ecstasy of Gold (tribute video) BETA version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYBTX_GmSM8#ws)
There was one thing missing from this "season"'s finale:
"plop"
This show has the potential to oust the Sopranos as my all-time favorite, depending on how next year goes
Quote from: el_chode on Sep 04, 2012, 10:59 PM
There was one thing missing from this "season"'s finale:
"plop"
This show has the potential to oust the Sopranos as my all-time favorite, depending on how next year goes
I have to admit, I though the same thing... plop.
Quote from: johnnYYac on Sep 04, 2012, 11:06 PM
Quote from: el_chode on Sep 04, 2012, 10:59 PM
There was one thing missing from this "season"'s finale:
"plop"
This show has the potential to oust the Sopranos as my all-time favorite, depending on how next year goes
I have to admit, I though the same thing... plop.
plop.
Quote from: el_chode on Sep 04, 2012, 10:59 PM
There was one thing missing from this "season"'s finale:
"plop"
This show has the potential to oust the Sopranos as my all-time favorite, depending on how next year goes
has there ever been a show as cinematic-ly complex as breaking bad is? a lot of the mystery solving is thru observation too. every frame seems important and thought out. the bugs, the pool, the book, the ricin. everything. best show ever made for sure, imo.
i agree with sticky on this one, for me, the show got even better when i re-watched it over again knowing what to expect. you can pay more attention to the subtleties in vince gilligan's writing - as the show is littered with "easter eggs" of intricate story telling.
caught this on slashflim, fantastic summary in one video (contains many spoilers for those that aren't up to date.)
Breaking Bad fan tribute - The Journey of Walter White (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djaLf6bgFuU#ws)
I have not read this anywhere else, but there is another G.B. in Walt's life: Gretchen Black, his old partner at Gray Matter. We never really did see Gale expressly give Leaves of Grass to Walt - it was implied. Sure he quoted Whitman, but there's a reason for everything on this show.
A relationship between Walt and Gretchen was implied in earlier seasons and a poetry book is a gift that nerdy folks give each other, especially if feelings are involved.
At the very least it gives Waly a fairly ready explanation when Hank comes asking.
Quote from: bowl of soup on Sep 10, 2012, 04:35 PM
I have not read this anywhere else, but there is another G.B. in Walt's life: Gretchen Black, his old partner at Gray Matter. We never really did see Gale expressly give Leaves of Grass to Walt - it was implied. Sure he quoted Whitman, but there's a reason for everything on this show.
A relationship between Walt and Gretchen was implied in earlier seasons and a poetry book is a gift that nerdy folks give each other, especially if feelings are involved.
At the very least it gives Waly a fairly ready explanation when Hank comes asking.
You sir, deserve an honorary PhD in chemistry
BOO
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/09/05/on-the-galegretchen-breaking-bad-leaves-of-grass-conspiracy-theory/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/09/05/on-the-galegretchen-breaking-bad-leaves-of-grass-conspiracy-theory/)
Quote from: el_chode on Sep 10, 2012, 06:01 PM
Quote from: bowl of soup on Sep 10, 2012, 04:35 PM
I have not read this anywhere else, but there is another G.B. in Walt's life: Gretchen Black, his old partner at Gray Matter. We never really did see Gale expressly give Leaves of Grass to Walt - it was implied. Sure he quoted Whitman, but there's a reason for everything on this show.
A relationship between Walt and Gretchen was implied in earlier seasons and a poetry book is a gift that nerdy folks give each other, especially if feelings are involved.
At the very least it gives Waly a fairly ready explanation when Hank comes asking.
You sir, deserve an honorary PhD in chemistry
Definitely BRAVO!
Fuck forbes.com, though its an amazing article. Its almost crazier than my Jacket obsession.
Pretty great review here. Not sure if this has been posted before,and apologies if it has.
http://www.denofgeek.com/tv/breaking-bad/22544/breaking-bad-season-5-episode-8-review-gliding-over-all (http://www.denofgeek.com/tv/breaking-bad/22544/breaking-bad-season-5-episode-8-review-gliding-over-all)
Quote from: johnnYYac on Sep 10, 2012, 09:08 PM
Quote from: el_chode on Sep 10, 2012, 06:01 PM
Quote from: bowl of soup on Sep 10, 2012, 04:35 PM
I have not read this anywhere else, but there is another G.B. in Walt's life: Gretchen Black, his old partner at Gray Matter. We never really did see Gale expressly give Leaves of Grass to Walt - it was implied. Sure he quoted Whitman, but there's a reason for everything on this show.
A relationship between Walt and Gretchen was implied in earlier seasons and a poetry book is a gift that nerdy folks give each other, especially if feelings are involved.
At the very least it gives Waly a fairly ready explanation when Hank comes asking.
You sir, deserve an honorary PhD in chemistry
Definitely BRAVO!
Fuck forbes.com, though its an amazing article. Its almost crazier than my Jacket obsession.
Well, thanks I guess. That article pretty much blew up theory - I guess I have to give back my PhD. I totally forgot that their actual name was not Black, but Schwartz.
Funny thing about Breaking Bad is that they rarely go for the cheap twist. When people die - they die. They rarely go for the typical either. I mean how many times have you expected to meet a a dirty cop or DEA agent - not a single one yet. I thought Gomez worked for the cartel for 5 seasons, but it seems that he's just a good DEA agent. They show you everything before it happens - you just have to guess.
so walts got over 200million dollars, is "out" of methylamine, and now has hank on him. that's not including the Todd Brigade. man Todd is going to fuck shit up so bad with his uncle. those neo-nazi's from the hotel room seemed too important not to be prominent next season.
Lydia is going to fuck walt over big time too if she gets pressured from the czech mafia or whomever she works with over there, bye bye lydia, here's some ricin in your tea.
I think that scene where the german business owner kills himself in the bathroom in episode 2 of this season was the beginning of walts empire collapsing. unless walt kills all the loose ends, or flips on some punk and gets a plea deal because hanks his bro-in-law there is nothing but death in the poor, now psychotic dudes future. 8episodes left.
I think we should do a "who gets ricined" poll.
I agree Lydia would be a good bet, just not sure they would tease us with her almost getting done in by it, and then coming back at her to finish the job.
I really thought it was gonna be Mike, but so much for that. Gonna have to think on it some more before I chime in with a final guess.
So many crazy theories that could be thrown out there...
Skyler's seems like she's gonna talk/threatens to leave...ricin 'er!
Jesse is outta control...ricin 'im! (Would be especially sad/fitting after he thought Walt ricined the little boy)
I think Hank will catch him, but ultimately decide that he's not going to turn Walt in, for whatever reason. Skyler and kids probably end up in some other state or in some sort of protection program. Walt will kill Jesse, somehow.
My mind will probably change about all of this tomorrow...
Can't wait for the final season!
Quote from: ericm on Sep 11, 2012, 10:08 PM
I think we should do a "who gets ricined" poll.
I agree Lydia would be a good bet, just not sure they would tease us with her almost getting done in by it, and then coming back at her to finish the job.
I really thought it was gonna be Mike, but so much for that. Gonna have to think on it some more before I chime in with a final guess.
for sure, it's been around, what? two seasons now? what if hank puts walt on lockdown and they do a search and find the ricin? fuckin' loose ends. I keep thinking of that scene where he's just sitting on the couch with his heisenburg hat and the single loose strand, just stroking it like his little monkey. shit is genius.
Quote from: Hawkeye on Sep 11, 2012, 11:23 PM
So many crazy theories that could be thrown out there...
Skyler's seems like she's gonna talk/threatens to leave...ricin 'er!
Jesse is outta control...ricin 'im! (Would be especially sad/fitting after he thought Walt ricined the little boy)
I think Hank will catch him, but ultimately decide that he's not going to turn Walt in, for whatever reason. Skyler and kids probably end up in some other state or in some sort of protection program. Walt will kill Jesse, somehow.
My mind will probably change about all of this tomorrow...
Can't wait for the final season!
the ultimate would be walt jr. sprinkling it on his corn flakes but we all know that will never happen...
The ricin is for Holly. They keep visually suggesting it. They wouldn't take so much care in showing him replace the face plate at least twice. It's coming loose somehow...
Nice eye, Soup.
As a first time parent of a newborn though, that scares the crap out of me! Not that I'm keeping ricin in my HVAC system lol.
I really hope not, but I just thinks its inevitable. The little kid dealer got killed, Walt poisoned Brock, they killed spider boy - this show has not shied away from putting kids in harm's way. And everything comes around on this show.
Quote from: bowl of soup on Sep 12, 2012, 03:07 PM
The ricin is for Holly. They keep visually suggesting it. They wouldn't take so much care in showing him replace the face plate at least twice. It's coming loose somehow...
I could see that. The outlet isn't child proofed either. I can see Holly putting a coin or something in the outlet, sparks fly,ricin vial shatters, kid inhales it or gets ricin on her hands or face, and bye-bye Holly.
Quote from: bowl of soup on Sep 12, 2012, 03:07 PM
The ricin is for Holly. They keep visually suggesting it. They wouldn't take so much care in showing him replace the face plate at least twice. It's coming loose somehow...
no way. I think holly will die but not by way of ricin. If hank confronts walt after that dump he's taking I could see hank getting slipped that shit in his "brew" or whatever they were requesting him to make.
I could see walt jr. finding it and thinking it's coke or something. still think walt jr. and his friend louis are going to start dabbling in the blue. have we ever even seen louis? he could be some cartel dudes son for all we know.
I think we saw Louis once, maybe twice. Maybe season 1 or 2 he came over and picked up Walt Jr. There was also that time that Walt Jr. tried to get the cop to buy him and his friends beer. There were 2 dudes with him and one was what appeared to big a big Native American dude.
watching this spoilerific video made me realize something around 2:28 into it.
Posted in white below to see if anyone else guesses it first.
the teddy bear is gus
http://youtu.be/5y_Kd9ZoA6Q (http://youtu.be/5y_Kd9ZoA6Q)
Breaking Bad script stolen
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/26/breaking-bad-script-stolen_n_2955231.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/26/breaking-bad-script-stolen_n_2955231.html)
Quote from: Jackets N Pones on Mar 26, 2013, 12:21 PM
Breaking Bad script stolen
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/26/breaking-bad-script-stolen_n_2955231.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/26/breaking-bad-script-stolen_n_2955231.html)
That sucks. Anyone hear exactly when BB is returning? The website just says "Returns Summer 2013". I'm gonna need a refresher.
They have been playing last seasons episodes at 4 in the morning on Sundays. I guess we're about 2 months or so away.
Quote from: johnnYYac on Mar 26, 2013, 03:16 PM
Quote from: Jackets N Pones on Mar 26, 2013, 12:21 PM
Breaking Bad script stolen
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/26/breaking-bad-script-stolen_n_2955231.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/26/breaking-bad-script-stolen_n_2955231.html)
That sucks. Anyone hear exactly when BB is returning? The website just says "Returns Summer 2013". I'm gonna need a refresher.
August 11
Quote from: Jackets N Pones on Apr 22, 2013, 06:14 PM
Quote from: johnnYYac on Mar 26, 2013, 03:16 PM
Quote from: Jackets N Pones on Mar 26, 2013, 12:21 PM
Breaking Bad script stolen
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/26/breaking-bad-script-stolen_n_2955231.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/26/breaking-bad-script-stolen_n_2955231.html)
That sucks. Anyone hear exactly when BB is returning? The website just says "Returns Summer 2013". I'm gonna need a refresher.
August 11
I saw that... brutal! When did the last episode air? Its not just that the wait is killing me, its killing my recollection of the show and my enthusiasm for this final stretch of 8 eps. I'm sure it will repair itself by fucking August 11th, but sheesh...
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7434/9186918478_9c7727b59b_z.jpg)
Came here to do the same thing, JnP... 'cept mine's bigger. :wink:
(http://blogs.amctv.com/breaking-bad/BB-S5B-Key-Art-796-v2.jpg)
Haha well done Yacc attack. What are y'all doing to gear up for August 11th?
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7359/9189562504_da6cbbfb20_z.jpg)
Hoping I'll have operational modes for viewing at the new home in Iowa. Moving 11 days before BB returns. I wonder. Will it be on 9pm Central or delayed an hour?
I've only just started watching BB - about half way through season two (and haven't read any of the above thread to avoid spoilers). I need to get caught up... love it so far.
#teamHank
Bought this on iTunes yesterday to get ready for the final episodes. Pretty cool, especially the fan art.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/breaking-bad-alchemy/id669224505?mt=11
Cool comic book summary of the last 4.5 seasons, with more to come...
http://www.amctv.com/shows/breaking-bad/all-bad-things
Has anyone else noticed the common "bug" theme in Breaking Bad? Any idea what it means?
1. Jesse (waiting on the street corner - before he attempts to kill the junkies that ripped him off) lets the bug live, and then Skinny Pete squishes it with no hesitation.
2. Fly episode
3. Tarantula in the jar
4. All of the "bugs" Mike and Walt use throughout the series - I think there is an actual episode called "Bug"
5. Vamanos Pest
6. Logo on the methylamine barrels
let me know if you can think of others
7. Marie drives a Volkswagen beetle
8. You're like a bee at a damn picnic...
Hank to Marie
Moving to the Central time zone puts Breaking Bad at 8pm, too early with three girls to put to bed. DVR is active. Caught a glimpse of the opening scene... The end is beginning.
"If that's true.... If you don't know who I am, then maybe your best course would be to tread lightly."-Walter White
Oh and fuck AMC for making me sit through 30min of LWS before showing the preview for the next episode. Seriously 30 min without a commercial break.
Quote from: EverythingChanges on Aug 11, 2013, 11:00 PM
"If that's true.... If you don't know who I am, then maybe your best course would be to tread lightly."-Walter White
Oh and fuck AMC for making me sit through 30min of LWS before showing the preview for the next episode. Seriously 30 min without a commercial break.
this
Great start after an awful wait. Strong and intense right out of the gate.
SPOILER ALERT!!!
Putting Walt and Hank toe-to-toe so soon suggests some big doings to come. The more I think about the implications of Hank's discovery... where that puts all past events... I can't imagine the position Hank is in and what he'll so.
Will he take Walt's advice/threat?
"...tread lightly."
Jesse obviously knows Walt killed Mike. But how?
***SPOILER ALERT***
I think he bugged the watch he gave Walt for his birthday in season 5a. Jesse owed Walt for bugging the Tercel in season 4.
I like how they chose to put the Walt/hank confrontation in the 1st episode instead of making us wait. We must remember it may be the Walter White show but Hank is the hero. Can't wait to see what goes down.
SPOILERZ
When Walt said "you have to believe me Jesse", he definitely meant "pretend to believe my lie so I don't have to kill you."
Theories:
Walt has faked his death in the flash forward. Carol was scared because she thought she saw a ghost.
Walt might use the m60 on the DEA?
The ricin is either for Jesse or for himself.
the M60 will be for the czechs... quality has dipped down to 68%, likely todd's method using walt's "system in place."
lydia mentioned there are "moving parts" that have a cause for concern, so my guess is that those "parts/czechs" will be making an appearance soon.
jesse gets the ricin
walt dies of cancer... based on the allegory of badger's "147 kirks/pie eating contest..." heisenberg is chekov, sending frozen "blueberries in space" and then bones messes up and sends checkov's guts into space... walt has been seen spitting blood again as the cancer has returned.
quite a stretch, i know... yet, this is part of why the show is so great. you can take any idea and run with it.
http://www.slashfilm.com/lol-animation-of-badgers-star-trek-story-from-breaking-bad/ (http://www.slashfilm.com/lol-animation-of-badgers-star-trek-story-from-breaking-bad/)
Quote from: wolof7 on Aug 12, 2013, 09:00 PM
I like how they chose to put the Walt/hank confrontation in the 1st episode instead of making us wait. We must remember it may be the Walter White show but Hank is the hero. Can't wait to see what goes down.
no time to wait, they only have 7 episodes to bring it current. I've been on Team Hank since One Minute and his comeback from that so I was really pumped for him to deck Walt and I can't wait to see what's next (I do think he takes his case to the DEA - sorta have a feeling he gets cooperation from Jesse, you know the enemy of my enemy is my friend).
Also can't wait for Walt's "Say hello to my little friend" moment to bring it complete with Gilligan's "Mr Chips to Scarface" preface.
Quote from: parkervb on Aug 13, 2013, 01:51 PM
Also can't wait for Walt's "Say hello to my little friend" moment to bring it complete with Gilligan's "Mr Chips to Scarface" preface.
This.
Quote from: parkervb on Aug 13, 2013, 01:35 PM
Quote from: wolof7 on Aug 12, 2013, 09:00 PM
I like how they chose to put the Walt/hank confrontation in the 1st episode instead of making us wait. We must remember it may be the Walter White show but Hank is the hero. Can't wait to see what goes down.
no time to wait, they only have 7 episodes to bring it current. I've been on Team Hank since One Minute and his comeback from that so I was really pumped for him to deck Walt and I can't wait to see what's next (I do think he takes his case to the DEA - sorta have a feeling he gets cooperation from Jesse, you know the enemy of my enemy is my friend).
I would love to see Jesse and Hank team up. Last season I thought there was a chance Jesse and Skyler were going to team up after the classic dinner scene, and then the "Vamanos"..."I wish" line.
Loved the opening scene to the new episode. I thought it was a very emotional scene for Walt to walk into his family home and see the fruits of his "Breaking Bad". His home where he was a loved husband and father.
Can't wait to see where it goes, but this set up was just about perfect. I like the "faking his own death" idea from above!
I started watching the series from the beginning after catching the premier of the final season last Sunday. Its been a very interesting experience seeing it again with the foreknowledge of what's to come. Especially interesting is citing all the times that Hank kids Walter about being the new meth cook in town, such as when he follows up on missing inventory (they found a respirator in the desert) at Walter's high school science department.
Also interesting is the number of times Walter lies and/or causes real harm to others. Why didn't he just accept the job offer from his old pal at Gray Matter? Pride I understand, but... After he blows up Tuco's crib with fulminated mercury, he's sitting in his car with a big bag of cash, screams and hits the steering wheel... then grins with satisfaction. I think he finds he likes the dark side. Must've been good too long; I kinda understand that.
I'm using Netflix and can't believe the number of F-bombs they had. I don't recall any bleeping during the original broadcasts on AMC; wonder if there was some careful editing or dubbing for broadcast.
Looking forward to Sunday's new episode: Buried
Looking at the upcoming and past episode titles for the final season is interesting, especially ep. 1 and 15 as references my home state of NH... and where the story may end?
1. "Live Free or Die"
2. "Madrigal"
3. "Hazard Pay"
4."Fifty-One"
5. "Dead Freight"
6. "Buyout"
7. "Say My Name"
8. "Gliding Over All "
9. "Blood Money"
10. "Buried"
11. "Confessions"
12. "Rabid Dog"
13. "To'hajiilee"
14. "Ozymandias"
15. "Granite State"
16. "Felina"
Watched the premier again. Something is up with the watch Jesse gave Walt for his 51st. I think Mike convinced Jesse to bug Walt at some point in 5a. Mike never trusted Walt and he cared about Jesse enough to convince him to bug Walt.
Episode 11 "Confessions" has to be when Walt spills the beans to Jesse about Jane/Brock/Mike.
I seriously doubt the ricin is for Walt. He wants to win and be there for his family as much as possible. I don't think he would ever kill himself. I think the ricin is for Hank.
Interesting thought about Jesse working with Hank to get Walt. I never thought of that. That could happen.
Skyler got pretty mean in that scene at the car wash. She sounded like Walt. I think she'll play a big part in the last few episodes, which is unfortunate because she was very annoying in a few stretches during the series.
Maybe Skyler dies this Sunday? She will be on talking bad as maybe a send off? Vince teased Lydia's moving parts last Sunday. Maybe Skyler's bitchiness comes back to bite her soon?
The watch is most definitely bugged, good idea.
Quote from: APR on Aug 16, 2013, 09:19 PM
I seriously doubt the ricin is for Walt. He wants to win and be there for his family as much as possible. I don't think he would ever kill himself. I think the ricin is for Hank.
Interesting thought about Jesse working with Hank to get Walt. I never thought of that. That could happen.
Skyler got pretty mean in that scene at the car wash. She sounded like Walt. I think she'll play a big part in the last few episodes, which is unfortunate because she was very annoying in a few stretches during the series.
I never agreed with the Skylar is annoying talk out there...that annoying-ness or whatever is vital to the direction of the show. She was just playing her character and playing it very, very well I might add. Though, I think a lot of people came around on her last night after saying the best move was to stay quiet.
:shocked:
Hank's only hope is Pinkman.
On a lighter note, before Breaking Bad...
Preparation H ad with Bryan Cranston (early '80s) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1LnLsMW19U#)
3 episodes left. Any predictions?
I never thought Walt would kill himself, but if he thinks he "won" and is about to die because of lung cancer, it wouldn't surprise me if the ricin is for him to avoid a long battle with lung cancer. I don't think he would want his family to see him suffer for months.
I also think Marie and Skyler will become close again. They're sisters and will have something to bond over, and the characters keep emphasizing family.
That was tough.
Quote from: parkervb on Sep 15, 2013, 10:30 PM
That was tough.
Great fucking episode! That might've been the best, most intense hour of a tv show that I ever saw. Walt has gone beyond Tony Soprano as the worst family man/bad guy ever on TV as far as I'm concerned.
I think Walt is gone now, and only Heisenberg remains.
Quote from: ericm on Sep 15, 2013, 10:50 PM
Quote from: parkervb on Sep 15, 2013, 10:30 PM
That was tough.
Great fucking episode! That might've been the best, most intense hour of a tv show that I ever saw. Walt has gone beyond Tony Soprano as the worst family man/bad guy ever on TV as far as I'm concerned.
I think Walt is gone now, and only Heisenberg remains.
I think Walt is still there. Think about it, he ended up giving Holly back and he made a phone call to make Skylar sound like a victim to the authorities. As twisted and evil as he is, it still seems that his family's well-being is one of his main priorities.
Quote from: Jared on Sep 15, 2013, 11:50 PM
Quote from: ericm on Sep 15, 2013, 10:50 PM
Quote from: parkervb on Sep 15, 2013, 10:30 PM
That was tough.
Great fucking episode! That might've been the best, most intense hour of a tv show that I ever saw. Walt has gone beyond Tony Soprano as the worst family man/bad guy ever on TV as far as I'm concerned.
I think Walt is gone now, and only Heisenberg remains.
I think Walt is still there. Think about it, he ended up giving Holly back and he made a phone call to make Skylar sound like a victim to the authorities. As twisted and evil as he is, it still seems that his family's well-being is one of his main priorities.
Well that's why I said "now." His family is in the past for him now. He got Skylar off the hook, and made sure Holly was safe. I wouldn't doubt if he set them up with some cash somehow too, but there's no going back now to Walter White for him. In name, and actions,IMO.
I think his alter ego Heisenberg will be his persona from here on out.
Yeah they need an excuse to play this amazing score one more time anyway...
Breaking Bad OST 12/20 - "The Long Walk Alone (Heisenberg's Theme)" [Dave Porter] [HQ/HD] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61UEKToo3rw#ws)
Such an intense episode. I can't believe Walt gave the go ahead to kill Jessie. "Found him..."
I think Walt's lottery ticket will win, and he will get his 80 million back. Just kidding.
Loved how Walt Jr. finally got his moment to shine. That scene at the house was gut-wrenching.
Jessie is definitely going to kill Todd.
Scanning through some of the older posts, it's crazy how opinions on characters have changed so drastically. Someone at one point said they could see hank becoming complicit in Walts dealings. How off was that? my man Hank didn't bow to anybody. I loved Hanks character, he was kinda a putz to begin but he's been the only one (besides Walt Jr I guess) to have a consistent moral code. RIP ASAC Schrader
I know the popular interpretation of Walt's phone call to Skyler was that he was coming clean, and thus "saving her" from the authorities, but was I the only one who saw that scene completely differently? I saw it as Walt's full descent into evil, his stupid overconfidence and pride finally fully released and unhinged. Yes, it has the effect of pretty much freeing Skyler and the family from any wrongdoings by admitting it was all him, but I don't think this was done intentionally by Walt. It was just his ridiculous hubris fully consuming him.
By the way, "What the hell is wrong with you, we're a family!!!!" was probably the most chilling/crazy/viscerally impactful line in TV history.
Quote from: oistheone on Sep 16, 2013, 11:52 AM
I know the popular interpretation of Walt's phone call to Skyler was that he was coming clean, and thus "saving her" from the authorities, but was I the only one who saw that scene completely differently? I saw it as Walt's full descent into evil, his stupid overconfidence and pride finally fully released and unhinged. Yes, it has the effect of pretty much freeing Skyler and the family from any wrongdoings by admitting it was all him, but I don't think this was done intentionally by Walt. It was just his ridiculous hubris fully consuming him.
By the way, "What the hell is wrong with you, we're a family!!!!" was probably the most chilling/crazy/viscerally impactful line in TV history.
if that was the case, why did he give Holly back? He was crying as well in that scene.
Good point! After rewatching the episode twice (intense way to kill a few hours), I can see it both ways. I could also see that Walt stole the baby in the first place to completely villanize himself, knowing that he was going the Hoover vaccuum route, and therefore making the call to take the fall. I can't wait to see where this goes next, hard to believe it's probably only going to get more intense from here.
What do you guys think of the two tapes still out there? Think both could play a part in the final two episodes? Both were mentioned in last night's episode.
Quote from: oistheone on Sep 16, 2013, 11:52 AM
I know the popular interpretation of Walt's phone call to Skyler was that he was coming clean, and thus "saving her" from the authorities, but was I the only one who saw that scene completely differently? I saw it as Walt's full descent into evil, his stupid overconfidence and pride finally fully released and unhinged. Yes, it has the effect of pretty much freeing Skyler and the family from any wrongdoings by admitting it was all him, but I don't think this was done intentionally by Walt. It was just his ridiculous hubris fully consuming him.
By the way, "What the hell is wrong with you, we're a family!!!!" was probably the most chilling/crazy/viscerally impactful line in TV history.
He was definitely wiping skyler of any suspicion. He knew the police were there. It was the nicest thing that he has done in awhile.
so, if the popular opinion is that Walt has come back as Mr Lambert to rescue Jesse, how does he know he's alive? I would think he believes the Nazis killed him. Or is he coming back to protect his family by killing the Nazis and then discovers they are using Jesse as their cook?
He said he had things left to do - he has to mean revenge for the Nazis killing Hank and taking his money. I don't think he means rescuing Jesse since he gave the go-ahead and THEN dropped the Jane Bomb on him.
So, the gun is for the Nazis...the ricin is for??? Options: himself, Lydia...anyone else you folks can think of?
good interview with one of the writers on Ozymandias
http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/09/16/breaking-bad-ozymandias/ (http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/09/16/breaking-bad-ozymandias/)
Quote from: parkervb on Sep 17, 2013, 09:41 AM
so, if the popular opinion is that Walt has come back as Mr Lambert to rescue Jesse, how does he know he's alive? I would think he believes the Nazis killed him. Or is he coming back to protect his family by killing the Nazis and then discovers they are using Jesse as their cook?
He said he had things left to do - he has to mean revenge for the Nazis killing Hank and taking his money. I don't think he means rescuing Jesse since he gave the go-ahead and THEN dropped the Jane Bomb on him.
So, the gun is for the Nazis...the ricin is for??? Options: himself, Lydia...anyone else you folks can think of?
I think Heisenberg is coming back to get his money. I can see him taking out the Nazis in the process, and being surprised to find Jesse still alive. Where he goes from there or if Walter White ever emerges again is anyone's guess. Personally I think Walter White is gone, and aside from possibly getting money to his family, his evil side;Heisenberg, is there to stay.
Yeah, after leaving Jesse for dead and telling him about Jane, I can't see the relationship ever being salvaged. The show has never really disappointed me, but I'm going to have a hard time believing that Walt will ever care about Jesse again.
Just finished watching that episode. Wow.
That show has fooled me many times in the past, so I wouldn't be surprised if there was some sort of underlying scheme in Walt's mind when he gave Jesse up.
I guess he wouldn't know that Todd was gonna save Jesse though, so I guess not. I don't know. I don't see where the show can go from here if it picks up from the flash forward AND finish in 120 minutes or less.
I also think that Walt's coming back in the flash forward (or whats about to happen I guess) is going to be a result of him being absolutely miserable and depressed. It kind of seemed that way in the flash forward, anyway. So maybe hes going to do what he can to help his fam and Jesse and take out the Nazis (and himself) on the way down.
also, this:
"SUM1 JUST TOLD ME THA END TO BREAKING BAD IT WAS ALL A DREAM JESSE FELL ASLEEP IN CLASS AN WALT WAKES HIM UP WITH A NOOGIE IN THA LAST SCENE"
and a reply:
" NAH HOME IT TURND OUT THEY GOT WALTS MEDICAL SHEETS MIXED UP AN HE AINT GOT CANSER"
and finally:
" It'll end with him waking up from the vivid dream in the hospital with dr telling him he has cancer and he'll look at camera like arnold swarzenegger at end of jingle all the way"
THE FUTURE OF OUR SPECIES, MY FRIENDS
Quote from: cre618 on Sep 17, 2013, 03:01 PM
Yeah, after leaving Jesse for dead and telling him about Jane, I can't see the relationship ever being salvaged. The show has never really disappointed me, but I'm going to have a hard time believing that Walt will ever care about Jesse again.
in that interview i posted above the writer being interviewed said most of the last two eps is about the Jesse/Walt relationship. Which leads me to believe that something positive happens b/t them. This show is all about throwing you the okie-doke, so like Jesse told Hank about Walt: "whatever you think is going to happen, the exact opposite will happen"
I also think that Heisenberg is now gone and that Holly "killed" him when she said "mama". Just my $.02
Quote from: e_wind on Sep 18, 2013, 12:22 AM
" It'll end with him waking up from the vivid dream in the hospital with dr telling him he has cancer and he'll look at camera like arnold swarzenegger at end of jingle all the way"
I hope it ends this way.
This was a prediction I read from before the previous episode:
Quote
My speculation is that it will be revealed that Walt Jr. is the brains behind everything the whole time. He was Gus' boss and now he plays his dad like a marionette. After Walt confesses his ways to his son Walt Jr. will just laugh and say "No shit dad, who do you think bought all of the Captain Crunch?"
Then he'll throw his crutches on the ground and walk to the kitchen cabinet. He'll open the cabinet door and reveal dozens of boxes of a new cereal titled Flynn's Blue Ice Crunch. He'll shout "DO YOU THINK ALL OF THIS WAS FOR NOTHING, DAD? I gave you cancer. I controlled Gus. I control the DEA. Now I'm going to control the cereal industry with this coming out next month. And it's all thanks to you, you stupid asshole"
As Walt stands in the living room, stunned, Walt Jr takes out a box of Flynn's Blue Ice Crunch, opens it up, and digs his hand inside. "And here is the best part, dad. It comes with a prize." He pulls a gun out of the cereal and shoots Walt square between eyes. He then walks over and picks up his crutches off the ground, grabs the handles and vigorously whips them in a circle above his head. He lifts off the ground and flies through the roof of the house.
EXECUTIVE PRODUCER VINCE GILLIGAN
I mustve missed smething, but why do they call him Flynn?
Quote from: FiddleCastro on Sep 18, 2013, 11:10 AM
Quote from: e_wind on Sep 18, 2013, 12:22 AM
" It'll end with him waking up from the vivid dream in the hospital with dr telling him he has cancer and he'll look at camera like arnold swarzenegger at end of jingle all the way"
I hope it ends this way.
Same person who's status that comes from also posted last week "OK I GIVE UP WTF IS SYRIA"
Quote from: parkervb on Sep 18, 2013, 11:00 AM
Quote from: cre618 on Sep 17, 2013, 03:01 PM
Yeah, after leaving Jesse for dead and telling him about Jane, I can't see the relationship ever being salvaged. The show has never really disappointed me, but I'm going to have a hard time believing that Walt will ever care about Jesse again.
in that interview i posted above the writer being interviewed said most of the last two eps is about the Jesse/Walt relationship. Which leads me to believe that something positive happens b/t them. This show is all about throwing you the okie-doke, so like Jesse told Hank about Walt: "whatever you think is going to happen, the exact opposite will happen"
I also think that Heisenberg is now gone and that Holly "killed" him when she said "mama". Just my $.02
It's unpredictability is just one of the things that makes this show so amazing. I can see where you can take that out of Holly saying "mama", but I saw it as the last thing Walter does, and now he's gone. I think the clip in the 1st episode where he comes back for the ricin is probably influencing my thinking this way also. That's something Heisenberg would use, not Walter, but who knows? Nothing Vince Gilligan writes will surprise me at this point, and I'm really liking that.
To me it seems with Hank gone Jesse remains Walt's biggest enemy. He has the most knowledge of Walt's activity and is determined to bring some form of justice. I do not predict that they will make-up in anyway, unless it involves Walt turning himself in (which is preposterous).
My favorite failed prediction of how the show would end made prior to the last episode was very similar to the one FiddleCastro posted and it was called the Denny's theory:
QuoteWalt Jr. is SO innocent and SO clueless that it really is hard for me to imagine him just finding out about everything. It's close to inconceivable. Maybe Skyler needs to take more drastic measures to shield him from the truth as things get more intense and he starts asking more pointed questions. And what's the best way to distract Walt Jr.? What about giving him a brick of cash and sending him to a 24-hour Denny's until things cool down? The main thing I want out of this is an extended montage of Walt Jr. having a field day in breakfast food heaven set to a forgotten '60s/'70s song a la Walt's "Crystal Blue Persuasion" meth-cooking victory scene.
source: http://www.pastemagazine.com/blogs/lists/2013/09/10-ridiculous-breaking-bad-predictions.html (http://www.pastemagazine.com/blogs/lists/2013/09/10-ridiculous-breaking-bad-predictions.html)
"Bogdan's got a bug up his butt." Not sure why, but I can't get that great use of alliteration out of my head. It seemed like Cranston really enjoyed delivering the line as well.
Quote from: e_wind on Sep 18, 2013, 11:27 AM
I mustve missed smething, but why do they call him Flynn?
It's something that started way back in the first season, I believe.. Here's what the Wikipedias say about it:
QuoteHis father's absences and bizarre behavior lead them to grow apart, leading Walter Jr. to have his friends teach him to drive and his wanting to be called "Flynn".
It's stopped in the more recent seasons, but Hank and Marie still call him "Flynn"
Quote from: marino13 on Sep 18, 2013, 11:56 AM
"Bogdan's got a bug up his butt." Not sure why, but I can't get that great use of alliteration out of my head. It seemed like Cranston really enjoyed delivering the line as well.
it's also another example of the use of bugs in the series. Someone referred to that earlier in this thread
Quote from: parkervb on Sep 17, 2013, 11:14 AM
good interview with one of the writers on Ozymandias
http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/09/16/breaking-bad-ozymandias/ (http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/09/16/breaking-bad-ozymandias/)
That was a good read. Thanks.
I love how seeing flash-forwards and flashbacks just make this show feel more like a puzzle you can't figure out.
We know Walt gets the ricin, but it can be for anyone.... I didn't even think of Lydia. You could argue that it's for Jesse not because Walt hates him (as of right now) but to put him out of his misery. It could be for Todd. Or Jack. And what about Marie? She could still cause problems knowing what she knows. It's hard to believe the next two episodes will be even darker.
So the writer in the above-posted interview verifies that Walt's intent when calling Skylar is to distance her from his crimes and her complicity.
Two to go. Hold on to your (pork pie) hats!
Hitler Finds Out Hank Schrader Is Dead (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvnpeqV5ypg#)
Obviously Walt is coming back to use the M60 on the Nazis. The question is, does Uncle Jack get a hold of Skyler before Walt shows up? I think Walt is going to put the ricin in Lydia's tea, since they always focus on her drinking tea. I think Walt might let Jesse kill him, or do something very drastic to make amends. He has already lost his family, so it would make sense for him to want to mend his father-son relationship with Jesse. Granted, letting Jesse shoot him isn't really family-like. I would think Walt's family would be put in protective custody, which would make it hard for Jack's crew to track Skyler down.
Walt is obviously going to die. The question is whether he is going to force his death before the cancer takes him, or if the show is going to end with the cancer winning, and with Walt all alone with no family, and without any inheritance for his children.
Watching those NH scenes all I kept thinking about was Yac's long as hell old driveway! :wink:
Are all rural NH driveways like that? :grin:
Quote from: ericm on Sep 22, 2013, 10:24 PM
Watching those NH scenes all I kept thinking about was Yac's long as hell old driveway! :wink:
Are all rural NH driveways like that? :grin:
Not all, but... I've stared down my drive a few times over the past decade in winter and thought, "...tomorrow."
I loved in last night's episode how it seemed what really inspired Walt to not just turn himself in was seeing his old partners from Grey Matter on TV denouncing him and his role in founding the company.
Made me think that maybe the guns he is getting are not just for the Nazis, but that maybe also he's planning to take out the Grey Matter founder or do something to get revenge on them.
I guess he also could have been motived to not turn himself in by learning that the blue meth was back on the street, which he could have taken to mean that Jesse was still alive and being forced to cook.
Quote from: parkervb on Sep 18, 2013, 02:47 PM
Quote from: marino13 on Sep 18, 2013, 11:56 AM
"Bogdan's got a bug up his butt." Not sure why, but I can't get that great use of alliteration out of my head. It seemed like Cranston really enjoyed delivering the line as well.
it's also another example of the use of bugs in the series. Someone referred to that earlier in this thread
Yes! Follow the bugs
1. Jesse (waiting on the street corner - before he attempts to kill the junkies that ripped him off) lets the bug live, and then Skinny Pete squishes it with no hesitation.
2. Fly episode
3. Tarantula in the jar
4. All of the "bugs" Mike and Walt use throughout the series - I think there is an actual episode called "Bug"
5. Vamanos Pest
6. Logo on the methylamine barrels
7. Marie drives a Volkswagen beetle
8. You're like a bee at a damn picnic...Hank to Marie
9. "Bogdan's got a bug up his butt."
Also, did anyone notice the two birds in the air (Ozymandias) when Jesse looked up before he thought he was going to be killed in the desert? I immediately thought of the plane crash but why do you think they put that in there? Also the (rabid/problem?) dog crossing the street at the end of the episode?
I managed to snag one of the 300 s/n prints of "Breaking Bad On The Mount" (http://nineteeneightyeight.com/products/scott-c-breaking-bad-upon-the-mount) that went on sale today (since sold out 'cept for eBay). Really like it and couldn't resist...
(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0073/2452/products/BreakingBadUponTheMount_large.jpg)
Quote from: parkervb on Sep 17, 2013, 09:41 AM
so, if the popular opinion is that Walt has come back as Mr Lambert to rescue Jesse, how does he know he's alive? I would think he believes the Nazis killed him. Or is he coming back to protect his family by killing the Nazis and then discovers they are using Jesse as their cook?
He said he had things left to do - he has to mean revenge for the Nazis killing Hank and taking his money. I don't think he means rescuing Jesse since he gave the go-ahead and THEN dropped the Jane Bomb on him.
So, the gun is for the Nazis...the ricin is for??? Options: himself, Lydia...anyone else you folks can think of?
I think the ricin would be used in someone's tea most likely Lydia, but how does Walt find out that she had Todd and the skinheAds threaten his family. Unless when Walt goes for revenge against Jack and his crew and by some chance over hears them mentioning the threat Lydia had them make to his family that's where's the ricin is destined for. Question is Lydia knows Walt would want to kill her for that so the only way I see her meeting anyone would be with Todd somehow being alive. I see her poisoning herself with the Astiva packets she always seems to need more of them and just the place for Walt to put the ricin in!!!! That's how I hope it works but we will see this show has not let me down ever since the pilot it's been this intense from the start.
The New York Times article mentioned during the Charlie Rose interview with the people from Gray Matter:
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2013/09/23/breaking-bad-the-gray-matter-of-charity/?_r=1& (http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2013/09/23/breaking-bad-the-gray-matter-of-charity/?_r=1&)
Quote from: johnnYYac on Sep 23, 2013, 04:05 PM
I managed to snag one of the 300 s/n prints of "Breaking Bad On The Mount" (http://nineteeneightyeight.com/products/scott-c-breaking-bad-upon-the-mount) that went on sale today (since sold out 'cept for eBay). Really like it and couldn't resist...
(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0073/2452/products/BreakingBadUponTheMount_large.jpg)
those things are going for over $300 now on ebay. I think it's cool but I'd be looking for a quick profit.
Quote from: parkervb on Sep 24, 2013, 08:57 AM
Quote from: johnnYYac on Sep 23, 2013, 04:05 PM
I managed to snag one of the 300 s/n prints of "Breaking Bad On The Mount" (http://nineteeneightyeight.com/products/scott-c-breaking-bad-upon-the-mount) that went on sale today (since sold out 'cept for eBay). Really like it and couldn't resist...
(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0073/2452/products/BreakingBadUponTheMount_large.jpg)
those things are going for over $300 now on ebay. I think it's cool but I'd be looking for a quick profit.
Yeah, sort of the Sophie's choice of poster collecting...
We should all put money in a pot and make predictions on last episodes and death. Something along the lines of...
Will Jesse die?
Will Walt die?
Will Jack die?
Will Lydia die?
Will Skyler die?
Who will the ricin be used on?
Will we see Saul again?
Will anyone from Grey Matter die?
Tie breaker: Will Jr eat breakfast?
and we all put 5 bucks up and whoever gets the most questions right wins the pot. something like that.
Quote from: e_wind on Sep 24, 2013, 11:23 AM
We should all put money in a pot and make predictions on last episodes and death. Something along the lines of...
Will Jesse die?
Will Walt die?
Will Jack die?
Will Lydia die?
Will Skyler die?
Who will the ricin be used on?
Will we see Saul again?
Will anyone from Grey Matter die?
Tie breaker: Will Jr eat breakfast?
and we all put 5 bucks up and whoever gets the most questions right wins the pot. something like that.
fun idea, even if we don't do it, I am going to take a swing at these
Will Jesse die? Yes (THE hardest one to answer)
Will Walt die? Yes (see below for my guess as to how)
Will Jack die? Yes
Will Lydia die? No
Will Skyler die? No
Who will the ricin be used on? Walt (he's going to take the ricin, then turn himself in after using the M60 on the Nazis, he dies in custody)
Will we see Saul again? No (maybe only in a flashback - his present day story line is done)
Will anyone from Grey Matter die? No
Tie breaker: Will Jr eat breakfast? Yes (easiest one to answer)
BONUS - does Todd die? I fucking hope so! Dead-eyed, Opie POS
Quote from: johnnYYac on Sep 24, 2013, 09:55 AM
Quote from: parkervb on Sep 24, 2013, 08:57 AM
Quote from: johnnYYac on Sep 23, 2013, 04:05 PM
I managed to snag one of the 300 s/n prints of "Breaking Bad On The Mount" (http://nineteeneightyeight.com/products/scott-c-breaking-bad-upon-the-mount) that went on sale today (since sold out 'cept for eBay). Really like it and couldn't resist...
(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0073/2452/products/BreakingBadUponTheMount_large.jpg)
those things are going for over $300 now on ebay. I think it's cool but I'd be looking for a quick profit.
Yeah, sort of the Sophie's choice of poster collecting...
*googles "Sophie's choice"*
yea that can be a predicament.
Don't sell the poster YYac. It's a definite keeper. I wish it wasn't sold out at $70 (poster scalpers suck).
The show does not disappoint. There's a lot of ground to cover in one episode. How does Walt get the gun, travel from New Hampshire to his house, and interact with all these characters we think he will talk to (or kill).... nazis, Lydia, Jesse, his family, his former business partner.
Not sure about this Sunday, but I know we'll see Saul again since AMC said yes to Vince Gilligan's new show, a prequel to Breaking Bad based on Saul. It will most likely have Gus as another main character. I assume Mike would be back as well.
Quote from: parkervb on Sep 24, 2013, 01:47 PM
Quote from: e_wind on Sep 24, 2013, 11:23 AM
We should all put money in a pot and make predictions on last episodes and death. Something along the lines of...
Will Jesse die?
Will Walt die?
Will Jack die?
Will Lydia die?
Will Skyler die?
Who will the ricin be used on?
Will we see Saul again?
Will anyone from Grey Matter die?
Tie breaker: Will Jr eat breakfast?
and we all put 5 bucks up and whoever gets the most questions right wins the pot. something like that.
fun idea, even if we don't do it, I am going to take a swing at these
Will Jesse die? Yes (THE hardest one to answer)
Will Walt die? Yes (see below for my guess as to how)
Will Jack die? Yes
Will Lydia die? No
Will Skyler die? No
Who will the ricin be used on? Walt (he's going to take the ricin, then turn himself in after using the M60 on the Nazis, he dies in custody)
Will we see Saul again? No (maybe only in a flashback - his present day story line is done)
Will anyone from Grey Matter die? No
Tie breaker: Will Jr eat breakfast? Yes (easiest one to answer)
BONUS - does Todd die? I fucking hope so! Dead-eyed, Opie POS
Yup, probably easier if we just do it for fun, so heres my predictions:
Will Jesse die? No.
Will Walt die? Yes.
Will Jack die? Yes.
Will Lydia die? Yes.
Will Skyler die? No.
Who will the ricin be used on? Lydia
Will we see Saul again? No.
Will anyone from Grey Matter die? No.
Will Todd Die? Yes.
Tie breaker: Will Jr eat breakfast? Yes.
I really like your prediction of Walt dying in custody. That would be awesome.
Also, my friends and I were talking about Better Call Saul, or whatever they're gonna call the show. My friend suggested that the final scene of that show should be Walt walking into Saul's office. That would be off the chain.
Quote from: APR on Sep 24, 2013, 01:51 PM
I assume Mike would be back as well.
That would be awesome.
Also, definitely watching this whenever it comes out.
http://www.avclub.com/articles/univisions-spanishlanguage-version-of-breaking-bad,97684/ (http://www.avclub.com/articles/univisions-spanishlanguage-version-of-breaking-bad,97684/)
Quote from: johnnYYac on Sep 23, 2013, 04:05 PM
I managed to snag one of the 300 s/n prints of "Breaking Bad On The Mount" (http://nineteeneightyeight.com/products/scott-c-breaking-bad-upon-the-mount) that went on sale today (since sold out 'cept for eBay). Really like it and couldn't resist...
(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0073/2452/products/BreakingBadUponTheMount_large.jpg)
Found it
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3782/9924289156_453e410b4c.jpg)
Quote from: Jackets N Pones on Sep 24, 2013, 07:27 PM
Quote from: johnnYYac on Sep 23, 2013, 04:05 PM
I managed to snag one of the 300 s/n prints of "Breaking Bad On The Mount" (http://nineteeneightyeight.com/products/scott-c-breaking-bad-upon-the-mount) that went on sale today (since sold out 'cept for eBay). Really like it and couldn't resist...
(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0073/2452/products/BreakingBadUponTheMount_large.jpg)
Found it
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3782/9924289156_453e410b4c.jpg)
The episode where they try to kill that fly so it doesn't contaminate is probably top 5 or 10 maybe. I'll have to rewatch the series when the box set comes out. Great poster!
Hey as I am not a native speaker I did not quite understand what Saul said to Walther in the last episode when he said he will never be somebodys lawyer anymore and what his future will hold in Omaha, Nebraska.
that whole scene can be summed up with Saul saying "its over." Walt wanted to keep working with him and Saul kept giving reasons not to.
I understood what he was saying in general, he just said something about ending up in Omaha, Nebraska and I was wondering what he was saying exactly.
Being a lawyer myself I kind of like Saul, he is my favorite character on the show although as a lawyer I of course condem his methods and ethics ;)
But I like his way with words e.g. sending somebody to Belize ;)
Bob Odenkirk is a great actor his Saul Goodman is the best sleazy lawyer since Walther Matthau in Fortune Cookie
The vacuum repair guy set Saul up with a new identity in Omaha. As his face was plastered all over New Mexico, in adverts (and wanted posters?), he'll need to lay low and find something else to do...
what Johnny said. Just where his new identity would take hime. I like Saul a lot too. I think it was smart to make a spin off prequel about him as opposed to any other characters. If they wouldn't have shown Gus's flashbacks, then maybe he'd work, too. He was my other favorite non-walt/jesse character.
I hear the really big spinoff is going to have Skinny Pete and Badger hitting the road to tour with The Shins.
If I was Saul, I would think that Omaha was way too close to Albuquerque. I'd have asked for someplace a little safer, like Afghanistan.
What about a spin off of Saul being the manager at a Cinabon in Nebraska? I'd watch that one. He could wear those shiny suits to work there. Seriously though, could a prequel have Tuco and his uncle as well?
I read an article where Bob Odenkirk said that lawyers always come up to him and say they know a lawyer like Saul (but no one has said they are actually the lawyer like Saul).
I found Saul in Nebraska! ...great timing for this movie
Nebraska Official Trailer #1 (2013) - Alexander Payne Movie HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuIBvmxIN4w#)
Looking forward to tonight's episode, AMC has been kicking ass. Love when Walt gets to the place in NH and looks at the movies and says "Mister Magorium's Wonder Emporium, two copies!" Really going to miss this show!! Rip Jesse if it happens
Satisfied. NO half measures
first impression as soon as Badfinger started playing - satisfied but not blown away. I will be rewatching it later today but I am probably suffering from extremely high expectations.
I thought it was great. I watched it with about 8 friends and during the scene when all the nazis just start gettin blasted I looked around the room and everyones mouth was open and their faces looked like "holy shit!"
Jesse killing Todd. Awesome. Jesses whole role, despite the fact that it was short, was awesome. Great final episode for his character, imo.
The scene when Walt is at the Greymatter peoples house was one of my favorite scenes from an TV show or movie EVER. From him standing in the shadows, to him just lurking around, to the laser pointers. For the last week I've kept thinking that bringing those people back was stupid, and just complicated an already complicated story. However, the way he made them relevant was prefect.
Walt dying with "his baby", as VG put it, was great also, imo.
The scene with Walt and Skyler was amazing. All in all, I'm really really stoked on how it ended. I thought they did an amazing job. Well done VG and crew, well done. :beer:
The song definitely took me out of the last scene in a bad way. It was too upbeat. Other than that, it was a fine ending.
If I'm to split hairs I'd say they tied the bow too neatly. I don't participate or read any BB blogs, boards, etc so was wondering if there was any significance in the ricochet bullet deflecting off #10 that struck Walt. Nonetheless bravo VG and crew. Sits comfortably behind the Wire and miles ahead of any other TV show I've committed this much time to.
Ricin Beans to Belize - what a trip it's been
Quote from: Ruckus on Oct 02, 2013, 12:49 AM
If I'm to split hairs I'd say they tied the bow too neatly. I don't participate or read any BB blogs, boards, etc so was wondering if there was any significance in the ricochet bullet deflecting off #10 that struck Walt. Nonetheless bravo VG and crew. Sits comfortably behind the Wire and miles ahead of any other TV show I've committed this much time to.
Ricin Beans to Belize - what a trip it's been
So is The Wire better for the amazing seasons of 1, 3, 4, and possibly one of the greatest series finales after my least favorite season 5. I think Breaking Bad was more consistent, not a bad season.
Quote from: ManNamedTruth on Oct 02, 2013, 01:07 AM
Quote from: Ruckus on Oct 02, 2013, 12:49 AM
If I'm to split hairs I'd say they tied the bow too neatly. I don't participate or read any BB blogs, boards, etc so was wondering if there was any significance in the ricochet bullet deflecting off #10 that struck Walt. Nonetheless bravo VG and crew. Sits comfortably behind the Wire and miles ahead of any other TV show I've committed this much time to.
Ricin Beans to Belize - what a trip it's been
So is The Wire better for the amazing seasons of 1, 3, 4, and possibly one of the greatest series finales after my least favorite season 5. I think Breaking Bad was more consistent, not a bad season.
ahhh, the Wire vs BB argument. There is no wrong or right answer in this IMO. I have BB slightly ahead based on the artistic facets of the show (cinematography, directing, music/score). I would give a slight edge in acting to BB but it was a much more focused show with fewer characters so the margin of error is smaller (Cranston>>anyone on the Wire). The storytelling and writing in the Wire was unbelievable.
Season 5 overall does put a bit of a damper on The Wire for me. I loved the newspaper storyline (Gus was a great character) but the McNulty/serial killer storyline didn't do it for me and I just didn't think it fit with the rest of the series.
I think the Wire is better. While I loved BB, I think there was something more to The Wire. It was a show that was wildly entertaining while still teaching you something about the way of the world. That makes since though, considering DAvid Simon's past and goals with the show.
I've fallen pretty far down the Wire rabbit hole of youtube, and now I can't stop. So yeah, the wire.
THE WIRE - 100 Greatest Quotes (spoilers) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Sgj78QG9Bg#)
Quote from: Ruckus on Oct 02, 2013, 12:49 AM
If I'm to split hairs I'd say they tied the bow too neatly. I don't participate or read any BB blogs, boards, etc so was wondering if there was any significance in the ricochet bullet deflecting off #10 that struck Walt. Nonetheless bravo VG and crew. Sits comfortably behind the Wire and miles ahead of any other TV show I've committed this much time to.
Ricin Beans to Belize - what a trip it's been
What caused the deflection? I didn't catch that at all. How could you tell where it came from? You must have really good vision or watched in slow motion.
The only possible conclusion in my humble opinion. Somewhat predictable, but in a good way. The goodbye scene between Walt and Skyler (and baby Holly) was as good as any scene that's ever been on the show. Television gets no better than the Ozymandias episode a couple of weeks ago - the last two were about wrapping it all up and they did it well.
Here's to hoping Better Call Saul features pre-Walt Mike and Gus.
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Quote from: johnnYYac on Sep 23, 2013, 04:05 PM
I managed to snag one of the 300 s/n prints of "Breaking Bad On The Mount" (http://nineteeneightyeight.com/products/scott-c-breaking-bad-upon-the-mount) that went on sale today (since sold out 'cept for eBay). Really like it and couldn't resist...
(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0073/2452/products/BreakingBadUponTheMount_large.jpg)
those things are going for over $300 now on ebay. I think it's cool but I'd be looking for a quick profit.
Yeah, sort of the Sophie's choice of poster collecting...
*googles "Sophie's choice"*
yea that can be a predicament.
Had to cave...
I tried to get two of Upon The Mount, so that one could pay for the other but was limited to one at $70 (didn't see a price until the buy button went live, acted fast, more than I wanted to spend). I never intentionally purchase posters with the intention to flip 'em, but I have to say I could not resist once I started seeing the going prices on eBay.
I posted it for sale at $.99 w/free shipping. In the first 24 hours, it was up to $355. Now at $439 with 2 days left! Holy mama!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/190920194007?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/190920194007?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649)
Highest price paid thus far... $625!
Breaking Bad - The Ecstasy of Gold (tribute video) FINAL VERSION (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlZZFX8lqbg#)