NCAA Football 2007-2008

[BH]

Tracy, don't confuse people with your so called "facts".  This thread is strictly for bullshit, speculation, hearsay and biased fanatacism.

[ycartrob]

Tracy, don't confuse people with your so called "facts".  This thread is strictly for bullshit, speculation, hearsay and biased fanatacism.

I think my overall bullshit (and me generally being full of shit) supercedes any facts I might convey, therefore, I am qualified.

[Bam_Bam]

Here's how I see it happening:

PAC 10

Oregon loses AT Arizona or AT UCLA, the pressure of being number 2 has been too much for most teams this season and with all these other teams nipping at their heals their gonna fall in one of these two games.
USC beats Arizona St


Oregon would still win the PAC 10 and play the Ohio St-Michigan winner.

Big 12

Kansas loses to Missouri
Missouri loses to Oklahoma

Oklahoma wins the Big 12

Big 10

Michigan beats Ohio St giving Coach Carr a 7-6 record against OSU. They go on to play Oregon for a rematch in the Rose Bowl.

SEC

This one is tough and i see two possible outcomes either:
Kentucky has one more trick up it's sleeve and beats Georgia
Tennessee loses to either Vanderbilt or Kentucky
This would send Florida of all teams to the SEC Championship game in which they would beat LSU (i'm all about the upsets)

OR

Georgia wins out and beats LSU in the championship game.

ACC

Clemson loses to BC
VT beats VA

VT beats BC in the Championship game

Big East

West Virginia wins out

This would leave my championship game as:

Oklahoma vs. West Virginia  :-?

hmmm maybe not although that would be a fitting end to a most tumultuous year in College Football. All i'm hopinf for is a Michigan win over the Buckeyes so Coach Carr can go out on top...with a victory in the Rose Bowl as well...GO BLUE!

[sweatboard]

Florida SHOULD play LSU  in the SEC championship.  That would be a great game!

[Angry Ewok]

LSU outclasses Arkansas in every single category

not hardly. Again, the facts

You crack me up, dude. Yeah, those are nice little facts, there. Spoken like a true Liberal. Hmm, here's a few stats you forgot when you sought out to prove that LSU doesn't outclass Arkansas (that alone is what cracks me up).

The big picture...

LSU is 9 - 1, #1 in the Nation.
Arkansas is 6 - 4, unranked with no votes.

In the SEC...

LSU is leading the West and the entire SEC conference with 5-1
Arkansas is 2-4, spared from being the worst only because of your Ole Miss.

LSU is 5 and 1 against Top 25 teams...
Arkansas is 0 and 3 against Top 25 teams...

Even though LSU has faced ten Top 25 teams verses Arkansas' three...

LSU has 39.3 points fielded per game.
Arkansas has 38.3 points fielded per game.

Even though LSU took on four of those Top 25 opponents consecutively...

LSU has allowed 16.7 points per game.
Arkansas has allowed 22.8 points per game.

Given the quality of the teams faced, the numbers game doesn't give this stat justice...

LSU has a point margin of 22.6.
Arkansas has a point margin of 15.5.

You talk about QB efficiency, but...

LSU has 235.1 Passing Yards.
Arkansas has 157.7 Passing Yards.

Arkansas is barely leading LSU in rushing yards per game, considering the quality of teams faced. 297.0 to 220.2... that's with a weaker schedule and with Darren McFadden and Felix Jones in the backfield. Nice. Keep in mind that Auburn was able to hold McFadden to 2.5 yards per carry a few weeks ago. Proof enough that he is very mortal against a good defense. Hell, your Ole Winless Miss and Tennessee had him at 5 yards per carry.

More annoying facts you left out... LSU has more 1st downs, more fourth down conversions, less fourth down conversion attempts than Arkansas, and all of that despite having more penalties and more penalty yards against it than any other team in the SEC.


But yeah, I'm totally off the wall when I say LSU outclasses Arkansas.

;D

[Angry Ewok]

Kentucky has one more trick up it's sleeve and beats Georgia
Tennessee loses to either Vanderbilt or Kentucky
This would send Florida of all teams to the SEC Championship game

I like Florida, they're a tough team, but I predicted they'd go 8-4 this year and that looks about right. That said, they are out of the SEC picture, and there is no way they could go to Atlanta, no matter how shitty Georgia and Tennessee become.

Georgia leads the conference 5-2, with one conference game left. Florida is 5-3 with no games left. If Georgia lost their last remaining conference game, that'd tie the two teams. SEC rules say that a tie in overall win/loss then goes to a head-to-head comparison. Georgia beat Florida 42-30, so Georgia wins.

Since Tennessee blew Georgia out of the water, though, Tennessee would beat Georgia in a head to head.

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Tennessee will do fine against Vanderbilt, I think. The 'Dores have been looking strong in the first few weeks of the season, but eventually they fall flat. With the win, Tennessee becomes 5-3, with one more game.

Meanwhile...

Kentucky is at Georgia. This is the Bulldogs' final conference game, so they absolutely must win this game to go to Atlanta. If they lose, the season is over for them. It'll be close, but I'm going to pick Georgia to win and stand in the conference lead with 6-3.

Georgia 6-3
Tennessee 5-3

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After that, all eyes are on Tennessee @ Kentucky. I don't like Tennessee here for three reasons... first, it's in bluegrass territory. Second, Kentucky has the best passing game, and Tennesee has the worst secondary. Third, Kentucky will be wanting revenge after losing to Georgia.

If Tennessee wins, they will end up 6-3 in the conference, tying Georgia's record. The Volunteers would win the head-to-head comparison against Georgia, and represent the SEC East in the SEC Championship game. I've said it before, I'll say it again, LSU would tear them up.

If Tennessee losses, though, Georgia goes to the SEC Game and beats LSU in an upset...



I say Tennessee beats Vanderbilt, losses to Kentucky... while Georgia beats Kentucky, and gets and upset against LSU at the conference championship.

[ycartrob]

LSU outclasses Arkansas in every single category

not hardly. Again, the facts

You crack me up, dude. Yeah, those are nice little facts, there. Spoken like a true Liberal. Hmm, here's a few stats you forgot when you sought out to prove that LSU doesn't outclass Arkansas (that alone is what cracks me up).

The big picture...

LSU is 9 - 1, #1 in the Nation.
Arkansas is 6 - 4, unranked with no votes.

In the SEC...

LSU is leading the West and the entire SEC conference with 5-1
Arkansas is 2-4, spared from being the worst only because of your Ole Miss.

LSU is 5 and 1 against Top 25 teams...
Arkansas is 0 and 3 against Top 25 teams...

Even though LSU has faced ten Top 25 teams verses Arkansas' three...

LSU has 39.3 points fielded per game.
Arkansas has 38.3 points fielded per game.

Even though LSU took on four of those Top 25 opponents consecutively...

LSU has allowed 16.7 points per game.
Arkansas has allowed 22.8 points per game.

Given the quality of the teams faced, the numbers game doesn't give this stat justice...

LSU has a point margin of 22.6.
Arkansas has a point margin of 15.5.

You talk about QB efficiency, but...

LSU has 235.1 Passing Yards.
Arkansas has 157.7 Passing Yards.

Arkansas is barely leading LSU in rushing yards per game, considering the quality of teams faced. 297.0 to 220.2... that's with a weaker schedule and with Darren McFadden and Felix Jones in the backfield. Nice. Keep in mind that Auburn was able to hold McFadden to 2.5 yards per carry a few weeks ago. Proof enough that he is very mortal against a good defense. Hell, your Ole Winless Miss and Tennessee had him at 5 yards per carry.

More annoying facts you left out... LSU has more 1st downs, more fourth down conversions, less fourth down conversion attempts than Arkansas, and all of that despite having more penalties and more penalty yards against it than any other team in the SEC.


But yeah, I'm totally off the wall when I say LSU outclasses Arkansas.

;D

Liberal? WTF?

READ THIS>   you wrote that  LSU outclasses Arkansas in every single category. Right? Those are your words. Now, the SEC, in your opinion, is the best conference in the land. So, if Arkansas leads the BEST CONFERENCE in the land in rushing, how in the heck can LSU outclass them in rushing? "Nice little fact" that Arkansas leads the SEC in rushing? Nice little fact?

I NEVER said Arkansas outclasses LSU (jeeez), I was totally responding to your ignorant statement that:

[size=16] LSU outclasses Arkansas in every single category[/size]

EVERY SINGLE CATEGORY? I was responding to THAT.

Arkansas leads the freaking SEC (you know, the best conference in the nation?) in rushing. But in Ewoks world, that means nothing, b/c LSU is LSU and the SEC is the SEC and blah blah blah.

Sort of like saying the refs helped LSU beat Bama when LSU had 7x more penalties.
LSU- 14 penalties for 130 yards. Alabama-  2 penalties for 15 yards.  Duuhhhh, damn refs!

I come here and try to attach some sort of meaning to your belief that Arkansas is OUTCLASSED IN EVERY CATEGORY BY LSU and you accuse me of saying Arkansas is better than LSU. NEVER did I say that, nor do I believe that. Merely responding to your silly statement that:  LSU outclasses Arkansas in every single category (am I getting my point across?)

And you point out Arkansas leading the SEC in rushing is not a big deal b/c they have McFadden and Jones? lol.    What kind of logic is that? They are running backs silly. What the hell?

Come on man, read my posts (and I suggest you re-read my posts so I don't have to fucking re-post my posts). I have been watching SEC football longer than you have been on the planet and I recognize a homer who just throws out bullshit statements like: "Uhhhh, Arkansas is outclassed in EVERY CATEGORY by LSU" or "Duuuhhhh, the refs really had it in for Alabama", when in reality that's not the truth. If you lay your emotions to the side, the big picture becomes clearer.

LSU DOES NOT outclasses Arkansas in every single category

Get it?
Got it.
Good.

[Angry Ewok]

I say LSU will have a better rushing game than Arkansas.

edit - Just like Auburn and Tennessee did.

[Bam_Bam]

Looks like one of my predictions might come true...dixons out and arizona leads oregon with 7 minutes left...man this season can't get any crazier...but it probably will.

[Angry Ewok]

Yep. I said that Oregon would take a fall due to injuries, and sure enough... Arizona wins by 10.

[Bam_Bam]

Interestingly enough if Ohio St beats Michigan this weekend (won't happen) they could easily end up in the NC game again. I'm still going with OU and WV

[Jon T.]

Yep. I said that Oregon would take a fall due to injuries, and sure enough... Arizona wins by 10.

What was your prediction for bama against my my mighty Seminoles?

[Angry Ewok]

Yep. I said that Oregon would take a fall due to injuries, and sure enough... Arizona wins by 10.

What was your prediction for bama against my my mighty Seminoles?

From this thread...

#22 Alabama at Florida State

FSU bothers me, here... They aren't that great of a team, certainly nowhere near as good as Georgia. Still, since before the season I've had this game circled on the calender as one of those, "Don't talk too much smack" days. Of the grayscale games that really bothered me as totally unpredictable, this was the last of the three where I was reluctant to chalk it up as an easy win (the other two were #16 Arkansas and #22 Georgia).

I'm thinking Alabama is going to be set to redeem itself, even though they were far from shamed last week, but the boys will show a newfound tenacity that'll make Bobby Bowden proud.

My preseason pick was that Alabama would lose. And they did, quite soundly so. I just didn't like our offense's chances going into Florida "neutral" territory. Not to mention we all knew that Bowden probably had more invested into beating the Crimson Tide than he has had invested in any other game this season.

Speakings of the Bowden. I know you guys love Bowden, but you better pull the plug on the old man before he runs your program into the ground.

[Jon T.]

Alabama 42 FSU 13

So,  I guess if bama would have won you would have referred me to this one?

Dogging Bowden doesn't bother me.  He's done, has been for a  few years now.  He did great things there but it's time for him to move on.  Unfortunately, no one has called me to ask my opinion yet.  I will not; however, talk about our glorious championship seasons in the past during our down years.  Unlike any Alabama fan I have ever known.  I've got good friends that are Alabama fans but godamn it gets old hearing about bear this and bear that and we were robbed in '66 or whenever the hell it was that we weren't even alive for.  

[aMD]

Interestingly enough if Ohio St beats Michigan this weekend (won't happen) they could easily end up in the NC game again. I'm still going with OU and WV

that's right.  they have as much of a claim to the national title game as any other one-loss team other than LSU.  I predict Missou will beat Kansas and OK will beat Missou and OSU will find their way back into the fake national championship.  

Go Buckeyes!  If the buckeyes fell all the way to #7 I accept Oregon to fall out of the top ten.  I know you all didn't think they should be #1 but at this point in the season they should be higher than #7.

[Bam_Bam]

It's kind of stupid to have the preseason rankings and all that. rankings shouldn't come out until week 8 or better yet, the last game of the season...that would be interesting...bollocks to the rankings. i want conference winners only competing for the national championship. It's a joke when Oklahoma played for the NC a couple seasons back and they hadn't even won their god damn conference! if you can't win your conference you have no business playing for anything more than a smaller bowl.

[Angry Ewok]

Alabama 42 FSU 13

So,  I guess if bama would have won you would have referred me to this one?

It would have been pretty awesome if Alabama had put up 40 points after a heartbreaker of a loss against Georgia, but I had no faith in our offense putting up 40 points against anyone decent this year - including against FSU. Matter of fact, it's only happened twice, this year.

Oh, by the way, your Fresno State jab was a nice one, I love getting it stirred up a month or so before kickoff.

The inconvenient truth is that the quote I provided you was hours before the game, and I stated outright that my pre-season prediction was that Alabama would lose.

Dogging Bowden doesn't bother me.

I haven't "dogged" Bowden, and I'm sorry that you took it that way. I didn't mean to bother you or hurt your feelings.

I've got good friends that are Alabama fans but godamn it gets old hearing about bear this and bear that and we were robbed in '66 or whenever the hell it was that we weren't even alive for.  

I doesn't get old for me, I love it. People can bitch and whine about Alabama living in the past as long as they want... just sounds like jealousy to me.

[Angry Ewok]

It's kind of stupid to have the preseason rankings and all that. rankings shouldn't come out until week 8 or better yet, the last game of the season...that would be interesting...bollocks to the rankings. i want conference winners only competing for the national championship. It's a joke when Oklahoma played for the NC a couple seasons back and they hadn't even won their god damn conference! if you can't win your conference you have no business playing for anything more than a smaller bowl.

Agree/Disagree

I like preseason rankings to an extent, but I think they should reflect the bowl games of the previous season... that's usually the case, but this year had Florida at #6. That's ridiculous.

I totally agree with conference champions being the BCS contenders. It's one step closer to a tournament. All of the Independents need to find a home, all of the conferences need a championship game, and all of the teams with the National Title in their sights need to produce much more respectable and relevant out of conference games.

[Jon T.]

You did not hurt my feelings.  In fact, I don't even have any, my wife has told me so on several occasions.

[ycartrob]

I believe there are 2 certainties at this point of the season:

1-Mizzou, Kansas, and Oklahoma are all in charge of their destinies; win out and they're in.

2-LSU is in that same boat. However, LSU loses at Ole Miss tomorrow in an upset of epic proportions

Therefore, make room for West Virginia b/c Ohio St loses to Michigan tomorrow in the Save Lloyd's Ass Bowl.

West Virginia and Mizzou for the title?  :-/