NCAA Football 2007-2008

[BH]

It was easily the worst football game I've ever seen in my life. That includes four years worth of high school games, one season of XFL games, a spring season of YMCA non-contact, and a couple of frustrating attempts at TECMO XTREME Football on the original Nintendo.

;D

[primushead]

Oklahoma lost?  For real?  Wow.

So it looks like:

1.) LSU
2.) Kansas(?!?!?)
3.) Mizz
4.) WVU
5.) Ohio State


Um...that could be a weird top 25.

[aMD]

Oklahoma lost?  For real?  Wow.

So it looks like:

1.) LSU
2.) Kansas(?!?!?)
3.) Mizz
4.) WVU
5.) Ohio State


Um...that could be a weird top 25.

I'm really liking OSU's chances now.  The best thing they've got going for them is that they're done playing games.  Everyone in front of them has a tough game left on their schedule.  And if this season plays out like it has, the top five are FAR from safe, even from unranked opponents.  

[Bam_Bam]

Boy that was the worst Michigan team i've ever seen play...was that really the OSU-Michigan game that i watched because I've never been more disgusted with my team in my life. Henne should not have played and it was only when Mallett came on that we looked like doing anything. That was the only time all day that Hart had any sort of game going for him. Can't wait for DeBord and Carr to be gone...i respect the hell out of Lloyd Carr but man, that was just not right to see. End of an Era at Michigan, here's hoping our new coach brings some creativity to the offense because running on 1st and 2nd down and then passing on 3rd and long is not going to work for us anymore...in fact it has never worked so why we keep doing it is beyond me. I could go on but i just don't care about this one. i'm used to losing to Ohio State in the 21st century so this year is no different...WE NEED A NEW CARR WITH LES MILES!

[Jon T.]

Oh, and say what you will about Nick Saban... but I was there, and his coaching wasn't the problem. Saban's first year at LSU included a loss to UAB. Pretty typical of a transition year... win some you shouldn't, lose some you shouldn't.

You are loyal to a fault.  I was at this game too and it was the most uninspired football team I have ever seen.  That IS the coaches fault.  Plain and simple.

[bowl of soup]

Oh, and say what you will about Nick Saban... but I was there, and his coaching wasn't the problem. Saban's first year at LSU included a loss to UAB. Pretty typical of a transition year... win some you shouldn't, lose some you shouldn't.

You are loyal to a fault.  I was at this game too and it was the most uninspired football team I have ever seen.  That IS the coaches fault.  Plain and simple.

Boy, he's making it better by comparing it to 9/11 and Pearl Harbor.  Couldn't happen to a nicer scumbag.

[megisnotreal]

the iron bowl is saturday. big day for our family. i am excited b/c i get to watch the game with my granddad this year.

yay!

[Angry Ewok]

Boy, he's making it better by comparing it to 9/11 and Pearl Harbor.  Couldn't happen to a nicer scumbag.

This coming from the same clown who said a few pages back in this thread that the University of Alabama staff and fan base are all members of the KKK. That cracks me up...  


It's obvious that Saban was talking about drastic change in response to catastrophic events. Pearl Harbor got us ready for war, and all that he's proposing is that perhaps a loss to ULM will prepare his athletes to show up at the Iron Bowl. 9/11 drastically bolstered the average citizen's spirit and patriotism, and all that he's proposing is that perhaps this humiliating loss to ULM will finally deliver that life-altering sting to his athletes. He even compared this loss to being an alcoholic, realizing that after you've hit rock bottom there is only one way to climb up.

Alabama losing to ULM was catastrophic. It's also the worst thing that could have happened to Auburn. Now, some of those players that just didn't give a shit last week are going to have to show up with something to play for - redemption. History can still smile down on this team, but only if they beat Auburn and end the horrible losing streak. I don't see that happening, but I'm looking for a good Iron Bowl to make up for last week.

[bowl of soup]

Boy, he's making it better by comparing it to 9/11 and Pearl Harbor.  Couldn't happen to a nicer scumbag.

This coming from the same clown who said a few pages back in this thread that the University of Alabama staff and fan base are all members of the KKK. That cracks me up...  


It's obvious that Saban was talking about drastic change in response to catastrophic events. Pearl Harbor got us ready for war, and all that he's proposing is that perhaps a loss to ULM will prepare his athletes to show up at the Iron Bowl. 9/11 drastically bolstered the average citizen's spirit and patriotism, and all that he's proposing is that perhaps this humiliating loss to ULM will finally deliver that life-altering sting to his athletes. He even compared this loss to being an alcoholic, realizing that after you've hit rock bottom there is only one way to climb up.

Alabama losing to ULM was catastrophic. It's also the worst thing that could have happened to Auburn. Now, some of those players that just didn't give a shit last week are going to have to show up with something to play for - redemption. History can still smile down on this team, but only if they beat Auburn and end the horrible losing streak. I don't see that happening, but I'm looking for a good Iron Bowl to make up for last week.

Boy oh boy, are you still on that?  I defy you to quote from anything that I have ever posted on this thread that even comes close to me calling Alabama fans and staff members of the KKK.  I did relate a story of some very nasty experiences that I had at an Iron Bowl on Thanksgiving in Birmingham 15 or so years ago.  Are you more upset that I wrote about that experience or that it actually happened?  I can't tell.

Look at the words that you are using to describe a football loss (A FUCKING FOOTBALL LOSS!!!!!!):  Catastrophic (twice); Life-altering; Redemption.  Sports has always been a fertile garden of hyperbole, but I think that there may be a gas leak in your house.

Nick Saban is a lying scumbag who shoots his mouth off without putting any thought into the words that he is saying.  He's the same fuck who makes up statistics about USF's use of non-qualifiers and then refuses to release Alabama's numbers in this regard (See Outside the Lines if you need a citation).  I'm a giagantic, to the point of distraction football fan, but comparing a football loss to life-altering devastation is a sign of mental illness.

Perhaps Nick should sit down with a group of 9/11 widows and offer them counsel and assurance since he now knows how they feel.  And what about the bit about "putting away the belt" with his kids and how difficult that was?  Hey Nick - stop hitting your kids with belts!

[ycartrob]

yeah, I always found it a bit silly to compare a game to death and destruction. Like when Winslow was a TE at U of Miami and said he was a "soldier". And he meant it, too. In his world, it's "life or death" (this game of football), when, it really isn't. When the real heroes (I mean, the true heroes) of our society come home in body bags with zero sound bites, zero national air time, no million dollar signing bonuses.

I have been thinking a lot lately about sports and the sheer spectacle of it. I was watching Ohio St. Saturday as their team walked out arm-in-arm, in rows, swaying, all their uniforms clean, colorful and matching, and they were basically dancing. I mean, remove the game and the physical contact, and you're pretty damn close to a Broaway musical! And then when they met Michigan at midfield and all the players from both teams were jumping up and down (like children), yelling, taunting, in their matching clean outfits, getting ready to play a game. Very homoerotic... And I thought, this is the silliest thing I have ever seen (I mean, if you really think about the whole planet; death and war and fammine, the sight of those OSU players was Felliniesque, absurd, comical.) And that's not a knock on OSU, it's just an observation on sports in general. It's interesting how our society "allows" men to express themselves, you know?

And the women on the sidelines, all pretty and cheering for their men.

I often ask young men I work with where they are allowed to express emotion and the conversation almost always goes back to the field or the court. Where are men allowed to cry? At the game. Where can men hug and embrace? At the game. Where can men talk obsessively, strategize, talk about other men with awe, argue? Before the game (and then after). Women talking about shopping is the same as men talking about sports. It's bizarre if you analyze it.

It's an interesting discussion for me, having grown up immersed in everything that is atheletic and "manly". But I have recently been thinking about what it all means (sports) and why, for instance, a high school will allot 5 adults to coach 40 boys on a football team but only have one guidance counselor for 200 students. Or why "christians" will foam at the mouth and hate homosexuals (b/c the Bible says so) but will follow their team to the death on Sundays when the same Bible says you should rest on the Sabbath. Or a church will hold services on a Saturday night when the home team plays on Sunday b/c the pastor knows the attendance will be low on Sunday morning b/c of the game (the GAME).

And what about those men who know absoluely nothing about pro/college sports? What are they in tuned to that I am not in tuned to?

I could go on and on and on, and please trust me when I say I am not above any of this and I am not trying to persecute anyone. I will be the first to watch 12 hours straight college football, try to get someone to cover a shift at work if the Saints are on Monday night, take off a Thursday/Friday for March Maddness, etc...
I will say I am less rabid than I used to be and I have not paid money to see the Titans play in the past 4 years.

Thoughts? Comments? Suggestions? Donations?

[ycartrob]

BTW:

           [size=18]GO TO HELL AUBURN![/size]

              [size=18]Roll Tide!![/size]

[megisnotreal]

BTW:

           [size=18]GO TO HELL AUBURN![/size]

              [size=18]Roll Tide!![/size]

:-*

[aMD]

I have been thinking a lot lately about sports and the sheer spectacle of it.

Thoughts? Comments? Suggestions? Donations?

I went and found my response from the last time you were thinking out loud about the meaning of sports.  here's part of my response:

To wax philosophical about it, a game in many ways is a microcosm of life itself.  There's struggle, competition, momentum, rules, leaders, followers, organization, and chaos.  The one big difference being that in the end there is a clear cut winner and loser, which is satisfying for those of us who long for that kind of clarity in life itself. Should it be this way?  Of course, it's our nature, it provides meaning and entertainment at the same time, much like music, which also draws some huge crowds.  

http://www.mymorningjacket.com/cgi-local/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1151333111/11#11

[ycartrob]

rivals.com top rivalry games:

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=742086

[bowl of soup]

I hate to be dismissive about the value of sports.  It makes me cringe when people say that sports are just a distraction.  For many people (myself included) sports represent the only real opportunity to connect in a meaningful way with their fathers.  I have had a difficult at best relationship with my father, yet my childhood is defined by me and him following Maryland around the country to bowl games, ACC tourneys, NCAA, etc.

My wife and I went to Hawaii 5 or so years ago and I was sitting in hotel on Waikiki beach when Maryland finally won the championship and my thoughts were with my dad and it was fucking emotional and important in my life.  I have never been any sadder in my life than I was when I found out that Len Bias had died.

We used to go to every game at Cole Field House and there was a blind guy who sat outside in the cold and sold hot peanuts before the game.  We went there before every game and bought peanuts.  My dad would give the guy a 20 and we'd get a couple of bags of peanuts.  When I was little I was always amazed that the blind guy knew that my dad was giving him the right amount of money.  As I got older I got it.  My dad's a hard ass, but in a quiet way he was teaching me a small lesson about charity.

All of this bullshit being said, people need to stop equating real human suffering with fucking games and stop allowing their blind allegiance to their teams to let them be sucked into these absurd analogies.

[aMD]

rivals.com top rivalry games:

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=742086

bullshit.

[bowl of soup]

[primushead]

rivals.com top rivalry games:

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=742086

bullshit.

What was wrong with it?  I mean, I don't have a stake in either the Alabama/Auburn or Ohio St./Michigan rivalries, which I assume is why the bullshit was called (you wanted OSU Mich. at #1, right?)

[BH]

rivals.com top rivalry games:

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=742086

Those lesser ranked teams are cute and all with their "history" and "good ol' times" but I prefer the here and now of the KU vs. MU monster rivalry.   Try and top the history behind this leading up to Saturday Night PRIME FUCKING TIME, BITCHES! ;)

http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB119552143273498638-lMyQjAxMDE3OTI1MDUyMjAxWj.html

[Angry Ewok]

ESPN ran a poll on the Best Rivalry in College Football... the Iron Bowl won that one, too.