:rolleyes:
CBS Sports bowl predictions for 2013 season
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/bowls/predictions (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/bowls/predictions)
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on May 08, 2013, 01:53 PM
CBS Sports bowl predictions for 2013 season
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/bowls/predictions (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/bowls/predictions)
PLEASE let's revisit these at the end of the season to see how ridiculously wrong they are! I don't have a problem with this type of pretty-much meaningless prediction, but I think the preseason Top 25 rankings are the bane of the college football "championship".
Hey now, I can't wait to see my team take on Northwestern in the Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl!
For the last year of the BCS, the champion from the SEC should get an automatic bid to the national title game. OR just crown the SEC champion as national champion and use the BCS title game to determine 3rd and 4th best :cool:
Quote from: Crispy on May 08, 2013, 02:11 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on May 08, 2013, 01:53 PM
CBS Sports bowl predictions for 2013 season
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/bowls/predictions (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/bowls/predictions)
PLEASE let's revisit these at the end of the season to see how ridiculously wrong they are! I don't have a problem with this type of pretty-much meaningless prediction, but I think the preseason Top 25 rankings are the bane of the college football "championship".
Hey now, I can't wait to see my team take on Northwestern in the Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl!
I'm with you Crispy! Just shows that some people in the world of sports media have entirely too much time on their hands to be coming up with a list of bowl projections already?!
Another thing I love is seeing that they are already releasing mock NFL drafts for 2014?!?! I mean, can we at least finish the regular season first so we at least know for sure what the draft order will be before we start releasing mock drafts? :rolleyes:
HA! A mock 2014 NFL draft is like a super-stupid mashup of combined NFL standings/college player performance predictions! These people need side jobs as well as more people besides Gregg Easterbrook calling them out on their bullshit.
Mahgeetah34, that's a good funny, except, as Tracy will surely agree, it's an entirely accurate prediction.
I'm just ready for football
The worst part is when basketball season ends and there's a dead period of no basketball or football and ESPN is filled with baseball and soccer highlights. :undecided:
Agreed, preseason ranking do more harm than good. In fact, I don't think they do any good.
I can't wait to see how Bill O'Brien develops the young stable of QBs on the roster. Hopefully he can coach them up and lead them to a bowl ga...uhh I'll just root for an 8 win season I guess. :cry:
pre-season poll. The question, who plays for the National Title in Atlanta on December 7th?
1.Alabama (58)
2.Ohio St. (3)
3.Oregon
4.Stanford
5.Georgia
6.Texas A&M (1)
7.South Carolina
8.Clemson
9.Louisville
10.Florida
11.Notre Dame
12.Florida St.
13.LSU
14.Oklahoma St.
15.Texas
16.Oklahoma
17.Michigan
18.Nebraska
19.Boise St.
20.TCU
21.UCLA
22.Northwestern
23.Wisconsin
24.USC
25.Oregon St.
Obviously, as a Michigan fan I'm a bit biased in my opinion on all things OSU, but I feel they are one of the most overrated teams in the pre-season poll. Sure, they're coming off of an undefeated season, but who the hell did they play? Hell, they couldn't even play in a bowl game vs. a highly ranked opponent to somewhat validate their undefeated season?! ND was exposed by Alabama in the NC game and that landed them outside of the top 10 in the pre-season poll. Don't kid yourself if you don't think Alabama would not have had a similar result had they played OSU instead of ND...
I just have the feeling that OSU is going to find it real difficult to run the table again this season despite the fact that their schedule is about as easy as you could find (save for Louisville's schedule). They have a lot of talent on their roster, no doubt. But one thing a lot of people are overlooking is that OSU lost a TON of leadership and that leadership was a big key in driving OSU to an undefeated season. Where is that leadership going to come from this year? Senior running back Carlos Hyde already suspended for 3 games? :grin: How about their cornerback and senior (former) captain Bradley Roby who was arrested the same weekend Hyde got in trouble for hitting a young woman and has since had charges brought up against him? :grin: Who doesn't want that kind of leadership on your football team right? :thumbsup:
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Aug 03, 2013, 10:35 AM
pre-season poll. The question, who plays for the National Title in Atlanta on December 7th?
Clever Tracy, verrrrrrrry clever... :beer:
South Carolina 23 - Stanford 17
Missing some Garrett Gilbert highlights but still pretty awesome...
College Football Pump-Up 2013-14 (1080p HD) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htWnfYBEE_c#ws)
How'd you like that game to start out your Rebel's season Tracy?
Quote from: BH on Aug 30, 2013, 12:50 PM
How'd you like that game to start out your Rebel's season Tracy?
Great, hard hitting, high scoring game. One of the more memorable bourbon showers in the Ole Miss section when Jeff Scott broke off for 75.
Here's Channing Ward knocking out Brian Kimbrow
Ole Miss - Ward Big Hit vs Vanderbilt (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-xg6ezBJ7s#ws)
And Jeff Scott going all the way
Ole Miss - Jeff Scott 75 Yd Run vs Vanderbilt (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84XzQq8x0dw#ws)
no YouTubes of Jordan Matthews barfing on the field?
Quote from: ItBeats4Jew on Aug 30, 2013, 04:33 PM
no YouTubes of Jordan Matthews barfing on the field?
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/8/30/4674808/jordan-matthews-catch (http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/8/30/4674808/jordan-matthews-catch)
That game was something else! I guess you were in the all red section Tracy? Quite a turnout for the Ole Miss fans. Your freshman DB outplayed Nkemdiche or however you spell it.
Let's all enjoy the farce that is NCAA football this year. I was laughing at the outrage over JF's "suspension". For the casual fan it's important to distinguish the economics of football vs. basketball. The NCAA generates all it's operating revenue through the basketball tournament contract. They've almost become superfluous in football where ESPN and the power conferences have all the leverage with regional cable and ABC/ESPN duopoly. The Big Ten and SEC and Pac 10 could just create their 20 team super conferences already, dump the NCAA as a governing body and become the professional league proper that they already are in football. You think the NCAA had a say in JF's punishment? Under the guise of still disciplining, they just did what the SEC and ESPN told them to do. Farce farce farce. Pay them already!
Quote from: Ruckus on Aug 30, 2013, 07:16 PM
Let's all enjoy the farce that is NCAA football this year. I was laughing at the outrage over JF's "suspension". For the casual fan it's important to distinguish the economics of football vs. basketball. The NCAA generates all it's operating revenue through the basketball tournament contract. They've almost become superfluous in football where ESPN and the power conferences have all the leverage with regional cable and ABC/ESPN duopoly. The Big Ten and SEC and Pac 10 could just create their 20 team super conferences already, dump the NCAA as a governing body and become the professional league proper that they already are in football. You think the NCAA had a say in JF's punishment? Under the guise of still disciplining, they just did what the SEC and ESPN told them to do. Farce farce farce. Pay them already!
If that's true then why did Ohio State receive a much harsher punishment? How about Dez Bryant? It's clear that Johnny Manziel followed the Cam Newton blueprint...do everything in cash and leave no paper trail and the NCAA can't prove anything.
As for paying the football & basketball players...that would be illegal. You can't pay some college athletes for playing but not others. And the schools are not about to start paying athletes in sports that generate little to no revenue.
Quote from: Tired Eyes on Aug 30, 2013, 07:29 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Aug 30, 2013, 07:16 PM
Let's all enjoy the farce that is NCAA football this year. I was laughing at the outrage over JF's "suspension". For the casual fan it's important to distinguish the economics of football vs. basketball. The NCAA generates all it's operating revenue through the basketball tournament contract. They've almost become superfluous in football where ESPN and the power conferences have all the leverage with regional cable and ABC/ESPN duopoly. The Big Ten and SEC and Pac 10 could just create their 20 team super conferences already, dump the NCAA as a governing body and become the professional league proper that they already are in football. You think the NCAA had a say in JF's punishment? Under the guise of still disciplining, they just did what the SEC and ESPN told them to do. Farce farce farce. Pay them already!
If that's true then why did Ohio State receive a much harsher punishment? How about Dez Bryant? It's clear that Johnny Manziel followed the Cam Newton blueprint...do everything in cash and leave no paper trail and the NCAA can't prove anything.
As for paying the football & basketball players...that would be illegal. You can't pay some college athletes for playing but not others. And the schools are not about to start paying athletes in sports that generate little to no revenue.
Dez Bryant is not Johnny Manziel or Cam Newton and OSU is not SEC. Of course you can pay college players. Right now there is an agreement that the NCAA is the governing body of Division I athletics and they are "amateur". These athletes generate revenue and therefore are entitled to compensation if that is the agreement. You are allowed to work while you are in college. That is what they are doing. If the NCAA doesn't govern, all those restrictions and bylaws over the athletes and of treating all sports alike are moot. For those that generate revenue, they can pay them what is deemed market value. If the SEC so chose, they could get out of the NCAA in time. The O'Bannon case is merely the tip of the iceberg.
Quote from: Ruckus on Aug 30, 2013, 07:39 PM
Quote from: Tired Eyes on Aug 30, 2013, 07:29 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Aug 30, 2013, 07:16 PM
Let's all enjoy the farce that is NCAA football this year. I was laughing at the outrage over JF's "suspension". For the casual fan it's important to distinguish the economics of football vs. basketball. The NCAA generates all it's operating revenue through the basketball tournament contract. They've almost become superfluous in football where ESPN and the power conferences have all the leverage with regional cable and ABC/ESPN duopoly. The Big Ten and SEC and Pac 10 could just create their 20 team super conferences already, dump the NCAA as a governing body and become the professional league proper that they already are in football. You think the NCAA had a say in JF's punishment? Under the guise of still disciplining, they just did what the SEC and ESPN told them to do. Farce farce farce. Pay them already!
If that's true then why did Ohio State receive a much harsher punishment? How about Dez Bryant? It's clear that Johnny Manziel followed the Cam Newton blueprint...do everything in cash and leave no paper trail and the NCAA can't prove anything.
As for paying the football & basketball players...that would be illegal. You can't pay some college athletes for playing but not others. And the schools are not about to start paying athletes in sports that generate little to no revenue.
Dez Bryant is not Johnny Manziel or Cam Newton and OSU is not SEC. Of course you can pay college players. Right now there is an agreement that the NCAA is the governing body of Division I athletics and they are "amateur". These athletes generate revenue and therefore are entitled to compensation if that is the agreement. You are allowed to work while you are in college. That is what they are doing. If the NCAA doesn't govern, all those restrictions and bylaws over the athletes and of treating all sports alike are moot. For those that generate revenue, they can pay them what is deemed market value. If the SEC so chose, they could get out of the NCAA in time. The O'Bannon case is merely the tip of the iceberg.
As you well know, Title IX is not an NCAA bylaw. It is federal law. If male athletes are paid, then female athletes would have the legal right to be paid as well. Not just the revenue-producing women's hoops either...every sport that women play in college.
Quote from: Tired Eyes on Aug 30, 2013, 09:36 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Aug 30, 2013, 07:39 PM
Quote from: Tired Eyes on Aug 30, 2013, 07:29 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Aug 30, 2013, 07:16 PM
Let's all enjoy the farce that is NCAA football this year. I was laughing at the outrage over JF's "suspension". For the casual fan it's important to distinguish the economics of football vs. basketball. The NCAA generates all it's operating revenue through the basketball tournament contract. They've almost become superfluous in football where ESPN and the power conferences have all the leverage with regional cable and ABC/ESPN duopoly. The Big Ten and SEC and Pac 10 could just create their 20 team super conferences already, dump the NCAA as a governing body and become the professional league proper that they already are in football. You think the NCAA had a say in JF's punishment? Under the guise of still disciplining, they just did what the SEC and ESPN told them to do. Farce farce farce. Pay them already!
If that's true then why did Ohio State receive a much harsher punishment? How about Dez Bryant? It's clear that Johnny Manziel followed the Cam Newton blueprint...do everything in cash and leave no paper trail and the NCAA can't prove anything.
As for paying the football & basketball players...that would be illegal. You can't pay some college athletes for playing but not others. And the schools are not about to start paying athletes in sports that generate little to no revenue.
Dez Bryant is not Johnny Manziel or Cam Newton and OSU is not SEC. Of course you can pay college players. Right now there is an agreement that the NCAA is the governing body of Division I athletics and they are "amateur". These athletes generate revenue and therefore are entitled to compensation if that is the agreement. You are allowed to work while you are in college. That is what they are doing. If the NCAA doesn't govern, all those restrictions and bylaws over the athletes and of treating all sports alike are moot. For those that generate revenue, they can pay them what is deemed market value. If the SEC so chose, they could get out of the NCAA in time. The O'Bannon case is merely the tip of the iceberg.
As you well know, Title IX is not an NCAA bylaw. It is federal law. If male athletes are paid, then female athletes would have the legal right to be paid as well. Not just the revenue-producing women's hoops either...every sport that women play in college.
Paid by school would apply to title ix right? But what about letting the players accept whatever endorsements and other payments they can get. Why can't they be capitalists like the rest of us. The school is already supplying the education, room, board and the best facilities and coaching in the world for free.
Ahhh I hope the bulldawgs can do it tonight...biggest game of the week! :beer:
Quote from: BH on Aug 31, 2013, 12:03 AM
Quote from: Tired Eyes on Aug 30, 2013, 09:36 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Aug 30, 2013, 07:39 PM
Quote from: Tired Eyes on Aug 30, 2013, 07:29 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Aug 30, 2013, 07:16 PM
Let's all enjoy the farce that is NCAA football this year. I was laughing at the outrage over JF's "suspension". For the casual fan it's important to distinguish the economics of football vs. basketball. The NCAA generates all it's operating revenue through the basketball tournament contract. They've almost become superfluous in football where ESPN and the power conferences have all the leverage with regional cable and ABC/ESPN duopoly. The Big Ten and SEC and Pac 10 could just create their 20 team super conferences already, dump the NCAA as a governing body and become the professional league proper that they already are in football. You think the NCAA had a say in JF's punishment? Under the guise of still disciplining, they just did what the SEC and ESPN told them to do. Farce farce farce. Pay them already!
If that's true then why did Ohio State receive a much harsher punishment? How about Dez Bryant? It's clear that Johnny Manziel followed the Cam Newton blueprint...do everything in cash and leave no paper trail and the NCAA can't prove anything.
As for paying the football & basketball players...that would be illegal. You can't pay some college athletes for playing but not others. And the schools are not about to start paying athletes in sports that generate little to no revenue.
Dez Bryant is not Johnny Manziel or Cam Newton and OSU is not SEC. Of course you can pay college players. Right now there is an agreement that the NCAA is the governing body of Division I athletics and they are "amateur". These athletes generate revenue and therefore are entitled to compensation if that is the agreement. You are allowed to work while you are in college. That is what they are doing. If the NCAA doesn't govern, all those restrictions and bylaws over the athletes and of treating all sports alike are moot. For those that generate revenue, they can pay them what is deemed market value. If the SEC so chose, they could get out of the NCAA in time. The O'Bannon case is merely the tip of the iceberg.
As you well know, Title IX is not an NCAA bylaw. It is federal law. If male athletes are paid, then female athletes would have the legal right to be paid as well. Not just the revenue-producing women's hoops either...every sport that women play in college.
Paid by school would apply to title ix right? But what about letting the players accept whatever endorsements and other payments they can get. Why can't they be capitalists like the rest of us. The school is already supplying the education, room, board and the best facilities and coaching in the world for free.
There are two ways around it, one much easier than the other. The Olympics allow an exemption for sponsorships and endorsements and the NCAA can do the same. JF would make millions a year and he deserves it, not A&M. Similarly, so long as it is not the University paying them, you can circumvent Title IX. The NCAA just has to stop snooping.
Or something like the SEC could become a non academic entity with regional football clubs representing the schools but the athletes won't be students but paid instead. It would still serve it's primary function as a free minor leagues to the NFL while paying 18-22 year olds.
The best way that this will be resolved is if the NFL removes it's eligibility restriction (not gonna happen) or a viable professional league sprouts up in the US or abroad that gives 18 year olds the opportunity to pay for play as an option over going to a college program.
Quote from: Ruckus on Aug 31, 2013, 11:20 AM
Quote from: BH on Aug 31, 2013, 12:03 AM
Quote from: Tired Eyes on Aug 30, 2013, 09:36 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Aug 30, 2013, 07:39 PM
Quote from: Tired Eyes on Aug 30, 2013, 07:29 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Aug 30, 2013, 07:16 PM
Let's all enjoy the farce that is NCAA football this year. I was laughing at the outrage over JF's "suspension". For the casual fan it's important to distinguish the economics of football vs. basketball. The NCAA generates all it's operating revenue through the basketball tournament contract. They've almost become superfluous in football where ESPN and the power conferences have all the leverage with regional cable and ABC/ESPN duopoly. The Big Ten and SEC and Pac 10 could just create their 20 team super conferences already, dump the NCAA as a governing body and become the professional league proper that they already are in football. You think the NCAA had a say in JF's punishment? Under the guise of still disciplining, they just did what the SEC and ESPN told them to do. Farce farce farce. Pay them already!
If that's true then why did Ohio State receive a much harsher punishment? How about Dez Bryant? It's clear that Johnny Manziel followed the Cam Newton blueprint...do everything in cash and leave no paper trail and the NCAA can't prove anything.
As for paying the football & basketball players...that would be illegal. You can't pay some college athletes for playing but not others. And the schools are not about to start paying athletes in sports that generate little to no revenue.
Dez Bryant is not Johnny Manziel or Cam Newton and OSU is not SEC. Of course you can pay college players. Right now there is an agreement that the NCAA is the governing body of Division I athletics and they are "amateur". These athletes generate revenue and therefore are entitled to compensation if that is the agreement. You are allowed to work while you are in college. That is what they are doing. If the NCAA doesn't govern, all those restrictions and bylaws over the athletes and of treating all sports alike are moot. For those that generate revenue, they can pay them what is deemed market value. If the SEC so chose, they could get out of the NCAA in time. The O'Bannon case is merely the tip of the iceberg.
As you well know, Title IX is not an NCAA bylaw. It is federal law. If male athletes are paid, then female athletes would have the legal right to be paid as well. Not just the revenue-producing women's hoops either...every sport that women play in college.
Paid by school would apply to title ix right? But what about letting the players accept whatever endorsements and other payments they can get. Why can't they be capitalists like the rest of us. The school is already supplying the education, room, board and the best facilities and coaching in the world for free.
There are two ways around it, one much easier than the other. The Olympics allow an exemption for sponsorships and endorsements and the NCAA can do the same. JF would make millions a year and he deserves it, not A&M. Similarly, so long as it is not the University paying them, you can circumvent Title IX. The NCAA just has to stop snooping.
Or something like the SEC could become a non academic entity with regional football clubs representing the schools but the athletes won't be students but paid instead. It would still serve it's primary function as a free minor leagues to the NFL while paying 18-22 year olds.
The best way that this will be resolved is if the NFL removes it's eligibility restriction (not gonna happen) or a viable professional league sprouts up in the US or abroad that gives 18 year olds the opportunity to pay for play as an option over going to a college program.
While I do kind of believe that people should be able to profit from things like endorsements and autographs as a college kids, here's why that will not work.
Its all about the haves and the have nots, if you make it legal for kids to get money then you will have the big time donors of the bigger schools give kids money for all types of things and that will give some schools a competitive advantages.
I also don't like the idea of taking the sports away from the Universities as I think that is part of the whole allure of college athletics as you have alumni, like myself, who support the university and therefore support the athletic programs. You seperate that and I think you will lose some attendance and revenue as I would be less likely to attend games etc.
While it is not entirely fair for the athletes, its not like they are forced to go to these schools and play sports. I will also say that from my experience a lot of these athletes should be more than happy to accept a paid ride through college, which quite frankly a lot of them don't belong on a college campus from an academic point of view. The classes I had with them when I was in school you could tell they were not the brightest crayons in the box and all of my experiences were with very easy entry level courses. And considering the very few that make it to the pro league, they should be thankful to basically be given a college degree which should help them earn more money then they would have with just a basic hs diploma.
That Georgia-Clemson game tonight was really exciting and fun to watch! I was rooting for Georgia because I like going to Athens so much every year and I saw a game in Athens when I was a kid (UGA took Ole Miss behind the woodshed) but congrats to Clemson on the win.
Quote from: Tired Eyes on Sep 01, 2013, 12:26 AM
That Georgia-Clemson game tonight was really exciting and fun to watch! I was rooting for Georgia because I like going to Athens so much every year and I saw a game in Athens when I was a kid (UGA took Ole Miss behind the woodshed) but congrats to Clemson on the win.
Great game! Bill, thanks for coaching me up on Title IX. I love the "as you know" because I clearly don't. I haven't thought about the 3 prong test in quite some time :grin:
glad bama has a week off to work out some kinks...we'll be fine though...you play like that and still win by 25...you've been doing something right...and wrong
Quote from: manonthemoon on Aug 31, 2013, 08:06 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Aug 31, 2013, 11:20 AM
Quote from: BH on Aug 31, 2013, 12:03 AM
Quote from: Tired Eyes on Aug 30, 2013, 09:36 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Aug 30, 2013, 07:39 PM
Quote from: Tired Eyes on Aug 30, 2013, 07:29 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Aug 30, 2013, 07:16 PM
Let's all enjoy the farce that is NCAA football this year. I was laughing at the outrage over JF's "suspension". For the casual fan it's important to distinguish the economics of football vs. basketball. The NCAA generates all it's operating revenue through the basketball tournament contract. They've almost become superfluous in football where ESPN and the power conferences have all the leverage with regional cable and ABC/ESPN duopoly. The Big Ten and SEC and Pac 10 could just create their 20 team super conferences already, dump the NCAA as a governing body and become the professional league proper that they already are in football. You think the NCAA had a say in JF's punishment? Under the guise of still disciplining, they just did what the SEC and ESPN told them to do. Farce farce farce. Pay them already!
If that's true then why did Ohio State receive a much harsher punishment? How about Dez Bryant? It's clear that Johnny Manziel followed the Cam Newton blueprint...do everything in cash and leave no paper trail and the NCAA can't prove anything.
As for paying the football & basketball players...that would be illegal. You can't pay some college athletes for playing but not others. And the schools are not about to start paying athletes in sports that generate little to no revenue.
Dez Bryant is not Johnny Manziel or Cam Newton and OSU is not SEC. Of course you can pay college players. Right now there is an agreement that the NCAA is the governing body of Division I athletics and they are "amateur". These athletes generate revenue and therefore are entitled to compensation if that is the agreement. You are allowed to work while you are in college. That is what they are doing. If the NCAA doesn't govern, all those restrictions and bylaws over the athletes and of treating all sports alike are moot. For those that generate revenue, they can pay them what is deemed market value. If the SEC so chose, they could get out of the NCAA in time. The O'Bannon case is merely the tip of the iceberg.
As you well know, Title IX is not an NCAA bylaw. It is federal law. If male athletes are paid, then female athletes would have the legal right to be paid as well. Not just the revenue-producing women's hoops either...every sport that women play in college.
Paid by school would apply to title ix right? But what about letting the players accept whatever endorsements and other payments they can get. Why can't they be capitalists like the rest of us. The school is already supplying the education, room, board and the best facilities and coaching in the world for free.
There are two ways around it, one much easier than the other. The Olympics allow an exemption for sponsorships and endorsements and the NCAA can do the same. JF would make millions a year and he deserves it, not A&M. Similarly, so long as it is not the University paying them, you can circumvent Title IX. The NCAA just has to stop snooping.
Or something like the SEC could become a non academic entity with regional football clubs representing the schools but the athletes won't be students but paid instead. It would still serve it's primary function as a free minor leagues to the NFL while paying 18-22 year olds.
The best way that this will be resolved is if the NFL removes it's eligibility restriction (not gonna happen) or a viable professional league sprouts up in the US or abroad that gives 18 year olds the opportunity to pay for play as an option over going to a college program.
While I do kind of believe that people should be able to profit from things like endorsements and autographs as a college kids, here's why that will not work.
Its all about the haves and the have nots, if you make it legal for kids to get money then you will have the big time donors of the bigger schools give kids money for all types of things and that will give some schools a competitive advantages.
I also don't like the idea of taking the sports away from the Universities as I think that is part of the whole allure of college athletics as you have alumni, like myself, who support the university and therefore support the athletic programs. You seperate that and I think you will lose some attendance and revenue as I would be less likely to attend games etc.
While it is not entirely fair for the athletes, its not like they are forced to go to these schools and play sports. I will also say that from my experience a lot of these athletes should be more than happy to accept a paid ride through college, which quite frankly a lot of them don't belong on a college campus from an academic point of view. The classes I had with them when I was in school you could tell they were not the brightest crayons in the box and all of my experiences were with very easy entry level courses. And considering the very few that make it to the pro league, they should be thankful to basically be given a college degree which should help them earn more money then they would have with just a basic hs diploma.
It seems to me colleges get the bulk of their cash for sports from the television revenue created by football, and basketball. It looks like this money sustains all their athletic programs well enough. How about they take some of the dough generated by merchandise, and split it up among all their athletes? The same amount to every athlete so they're in compliance with Tile IX. It might not be much, but it will be a bit of a stipend, and more than the 0 they're receiving now.
Seems kind of hypocritical to me for schools to be able to sell a jersey with a player's name, and number on it, profit from that, but the athlete gets none of that $$. If they try to sell one of their own jerseys, or barters with it, they're subject to suspension, or declared ineligible.
I would think the schools get enough revenue from TV to be able to share the merchandise revenue with the athletes.
I would personally like to thank the Georgia Bulldogs for losing their 1st game. You guys usually wait a few games to drop a stinker...Now for the love of God....fire Mark Richt....send him off to be an offensive co-ordinator like he was at FSU...we dont need a choir boy in Athens any longer...please send us a "Saban-like" killer...this Saturday is South Carolina...cant wait to see Spurrier make camp in Richts head....cant wait to see GA in the Poulan Weed Wacker Bowl played on Dec.14... :drum:...Mr.Richt you SUCK
Clearly, Johnny Fuckup really learned his lesson from having to sit a whole half for his discretions... I really wish someone would just cold cock that cocky SOB! I mean the whole taunting that dude from Rice with his autograph thing? And then blowing off his coach on the sideline after he was flagged for it? If there is anyone that is in need of a good old fashioned ass kicking, it is Johnny Manziel...
Quote from: iLikeBeer on Sep 03, 2013, 08:16 PM
Clearly, Johnny Fuckup really learned his lesson from having to sit a whole half for his discretions... I really wish someone would just cold cock that cocky SOB! I mean the whole taunting that dude from Rice with his autograph thing? And then blowing off his coach on the sideline after he was flagged for it? If there is anyone that is in need of a good old fashioned ass kicking, it is Johnny Manziel...
:grin: He was being taunted all game by Rice and they were doing the signature stuff to him first. I loved him doing the cash thing as a huge FU to the NCAA. They had no actual proof and besides, that same memorabilia dealer had signed Jadaveon Clowney, Braxton Miller, and Teddy Bridgewater stuff for sale as well. Of course those three just donated their signatures :grin: He's gonna get cheapshotted all season and that may be a problem but I think it's refreshing.
EDIT: I agree with you about him blowing off Sumlin. It didn't look good but I just think he's a fiery dude who feels taken advantage of by everyone around him and is just pissed off.
I'll say this over and over but it's amusing how sports fans get so outraged over things the media creates. You build him up, make him a hero, then create controversy to make the story even bigger. The formula works every time and the only victims are the unpaid players. I don't feel as bad for professional athletes subjected to this but it's just sick and twisted. I'll just keep watching the games.
Go Illini football! :grin: :grin: :grin:
Quote from: Ruckus on Sep 03, 2013, 11:51 PM
Quote from: iLikeBeer on Sep 03, 2013, 08:16 PM
Clearly, Johnny Fuckup really learned his lesson from having to sit a whole half for his discretions... I really wish someone would just cold cock that cocky SOB! I mean the whole taunting that dude from Rice with his autograph thing? And then blowing off his coach on the sideline after he was flagged for it? If there is anyone that is in need of a good old fashioned ass kicking, it is Johnny Manziel...
:grin: He was being taunted all game by Rice and they were doing the signature stuff to him first. I loved him doing the cash thing as a huge FU to the NCAA. They had no actual proof and besides, that same memorabilia dealer had signed Jadaveon Clowney, Braxton Miller, and Teddy Bridgewater stuff for sale as well. Of course those three just donated their signatures :grin: He's gonna get cheapshotted all season and that may be a problem but I think it's refreshing.
EDIT: I agree with you about him blowing off Sumlin. It didn't look good but I just think he's a fiery dude who feels taken advantage of by everyone around him and is just pissed off.
I'll say this over and over but it's amusing how sports fans get so outraged over things the media creates. You build him up, make him a hero, then create controversy to make the story even bigger. The formula works every time and the only victims are the unpaid players. I don't feel as bad for professional athletes subjected to this but it's just sick and twisted. I'll just keep watching the games.
Go Illini football! :grin: :grin: :grin:
I didn't like that cocksucker
last year, before it was cool to not like that cocksucker. :cool:
Quote from: Ruckus on Sep 03, 2013, 11:51 PM
:grin: He was being taunted all game by Rice and they were doing the signature stuff to him first. I loved him doing the cash thing as a huge FU to the NCAA. They had no actual proof and besides, that same memorabilia dealer had signed Jadaveon Clowney, Braxton Miller, and Teddy Bridgewater stuff for sale as well. Of course those three just donated their signatures :grin: He's gonna get cheapshotted all season and that may be a problem but I think it's refreshing.
EDIT: I agree with you about him blowing off Sumlin. It didn't look good but I just think he's a fiery dude who feels taken advantage of by everyone around him and is just pissed off.
I'll say this over and over but it's amusing how sports fans get so outraged over things the media creates. You build him up, make him a hero, then create controversy to make the story even bigger. The formula works every time and the only victims are the unpaid players. I don't feel as bad for professional athletes subjected to this but it's just sick and twisted. I'll just keep watching the games.
Go Illini football! :grin: :grin: :grin:
Taken advantage of? LOL! If there's one thing that pisses me off more than anything about this douchebag it's how he whines about the problems he now faces due to his sudden rise in fame. Poor wittle Johnny can't go to class because he's mobbed on the aTm campus. Poor wittle Johnny can't go out in public because he'll get mobbed for autographs. Yet, I don't hear his sorry ass whining when he's going to play Pebble, getting front row tickets to NBA Finals games or getting flown to Canada to catch a Drake concert. :rolleyes:
If he's going to act like a prima donna, he's got to take the good with the bad and he doesn't seem to know how to do that!
Quote from: iLikeBeer on Sep 04, 2013, 12:04 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Sep 03, 2013, 11:51 PM
:grin: He was being taunted all game by Rice and they were doing the signature stuff to him first. I loved him doing the cash thing as a huge FU to the NCAA. They had no actual proof and besides, that same memorabilia dealer had signed Jadaveon Clowney, Braxton Miller, and Teddy Bridgewater stuff for sale as well. Of course those three just donated their signatures :grin: He's gonna get cheapshotted all season and that may be a problem but I think it's refreshing.
EDIT: I agree with you about him blowing off Sumlin. It didn't look good but I just think he's a fiery dude who feels taken advantage of by everyone around him and is just pissed off.
I'll say this over and over but it's amusing how sports fans get so outraged over things the media creates. You build him up, make him a hero, then create controversy to make the story even bigger. The formula works every time and the only victims are the unpaid players. I don't feel as bad for professional athletes subjected to this but it's just sick and twisted. I'll just keep watching the games.
Go Illini football! :grin: :grin: :grin:
Taken advantage of? LOL! If there's one thing that pisses me off more than anything about this douchebag it's how he whines about the problems he now faces due to his sudden rise in fame. Poor wittle Johnny can't go to class because he's mobbed on the aTm campus. Poor wittle Johnny can't go out in public because he'll get mobbed for autographs. Yet, I don't hear his sorry ass whining when he's going to play Pebble, getting front row tickets to NBA Finals games or getting flown to Canada to catch a Drake concert. :rolleyes:
If he's going to act like a prima donna, he's got to take the good with the bad and he doesn't seem to know how to do that!
How can someone bother you this much who doesn't even know you exist?
Quote from: iLikeBeer on Sep 03, 2013, 08:16 PM
And then blowing off his coach on the sideline after he was flagged for it?
here's what coach Sumlin had to say about that:
He also brushed off the notion that Manziel disrespected him on Saturday by not responding when he talked to him following his fourth-quarter unsportsmanlike conduct penalty.
''When he came off the field, I basically made two statements to him, neither one of which should he have responded to,'' Sumlin said. ''They weren't questions. They were direct statements and I can't repeat them right now. What's amazing to me is the perception that he ignored me. The worst thing that could have happened was for him to reply based on what I told him.''
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Sep 04, 2013, 12:20 PM
Quote from: iLikeBeer on Sep 03, 2013, 08:16 PM
And then blowing off his coach on the sideline after he was flagged for it?
here's what coach Sumlin had to say about that:
He also brushed off the notion that Manziel disrespected him on Saturday by not responding when he talked to him following his fourth-quarter unsportsmanlike conduct penalty.
''When he came off the field, I basically made two statements to him, neither one of which should he have responded to,'' Sumlin said. ''They weren't questions. They were direct statements and I can't repeat them right now. What's amazing to me is the perception that he ignored me. The worst thing that could have happened was for him to reply based on what I told him.''
Well there's some spin there as well. But enough of logic and understanding. Outrage! Outrage! Outrage! Exclamation points! Caps lock at a 20 year old that is being run through the psychological gauntlet in a way none of us could understand.
Quote from: Jon T. on Sep 04, 2013, 11:46 AM
Quote from: Ruckus on Sep 03, 2013, 11:51 PM
Quote from: iLikeBeer on Sep 03, 2013, 08:16 PM
Clearly, Johnny Fuckup really learned his lesson from having to sit a whole half for his discretions... I really wish someone would just cold cock that cocky SOB! I mean the whole taunting that dude from Rice with his autograph thing? And then blowing off his coach on the sideline after he was flagged for it? If there is anyone that is in need of a good old fashioned ass kicking, it is Johnny Manziel...
:grin: He was being taunted all game by Rice and they were doing the signature stuff to him first. I loved him doing the cash thing as a huge FU to the NCAA. They had no actual proof and besides, that same memorabilia dealer had signed Jadaveon Clowney, Braxton Miller, and Teddy Bridgewater stuff for sale as well. Of course those three just donated their signatures :grin: He's gonna get cheapshotted all season and that may be a problem but I think it's refreshing.
EDIT: I agree with you about him blowing off Sumlin. It didn't look good but I just think he's a fiery dude who feels taken advantage of by everyone around him and is just pissed off.
I'll say this over and over but it's amusing how sports fans get so outraged over things the media creates. You build him up, make him a hero, then create controversy to make the story even bigger. The formula works every time and the only victims are the unpaid players. I don't feel as bad for professional athletes subjected to this but it's just sick and twisted. I'll just keep watching the games.
Go Illini football! :grin: :grin: :grin:
I didn't like that cocksucker last year, before it was cool to not like that cocksucker. :cool:
Are you brewing Miller Lite again as well sportster?
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Sep 04, 2013, 12:20 PM
Quote from: iLikeBeer on Sep 03, 2013, 08:16 PM
And then blowing off his coach on the sideline after he was flagged for it?
here's what coach Sumlin had to say about that:
He also brushed off the notion that Manziel disrespected him on Saturday by not responding when he talked to him following his fourth-quarter unsportsmanlike conduct penalty.
''When he came off the field, I basically made two statements to him, neither one of which should he have responded to,'' Sumlin said. ''They weren't questions. They were direct statements and I can't repeat them right now. What's amazing to me is the perception that he ignored me. The worst thing that could have happened was for him to reply based on what I told him.''
I saw that too Tracy. Probably something along the lines of...."you're done, sit the fuck down, and I don't want to hear another fucking word outta you".
Sumlin also went on to criticize the media, and desk jockeys for thinking they knew anything that was said, and putting their own opinions on that scene out there as factual.
We have something similar here in the NYC area going on with the Yanks. Girardi had mentioned in an interview that he would talk to Mariano Rivera a couple of months into the offseason to discuss how he felt when he retired, and just give him some input to make sure Mo didn't have any 2nd thoughts, and was comfortable in his decision. Now it's a nationwide story that Girardi wants to talk Mo out of retiring. :rolleyes: I'm sure he'd like to have him back, but he never even hinted at trying to talk him into coming back.
Quote from: Ruckus on Sep 04, 2013, 12:49 PM
Quote from: Jon T. on Sep 04, 2013, 11:46 AM
Quote from: Ruckus on Sep 03, 2013, 11:51 PM
Quote from: iLikeBeer on Sep 03, 2013, 08:16 PM
Clearly, Johnny Fuckup really learned his lesson from having to sit a whole half for his discretions... I really wish someone would just cold cock that cocky SOB! I mean the whole taunting that dude from Rice with his autograph thing? And then blowing off his coach on the sideline after he was flagged for it? If there is anyone that is in need of a good old fashioned ass kicking, it is Johnny Manziel...
:grin: He was being taunted all game by Rice and they were doing the signature stuff to him first. I loved him doing the cash thing as a huge FU to the NCAA. They had no actual proof and besides, that same memorabilia dealer had signed Jadaveon Clowney, Braxton Miller, and Teddy Bridgewater stuff for sale as well. Of course those three just donated their signatures :grin: He's gonna get cheapshotted all season and that may be a problem but I think it's refreshing.
EDIT: I agree with you about him blowing off Sumlin. It didn't look good but I just think he's a fiery dude who feels taken advantage of by everyone around him and is just pissed off.
I'll say this over and over but it's amusing how sports fans get so outraged over things the media creates. You build him up, make him a hero, then create controversy to make the story even bigger. The formula works every time and the only victims are the unpaid players. I don't feel as bad for professional athletes subjected to this but it's just sick and twisted. I'll just keep watching the games.
Go Illini football! :grin: :grin: :grin:
I didn't like that cocksucker last year, before it was cool to not like that cocksucker. :cool:
Are you brewing Miller Lite again as well sportster?
Fuckin' A, bro
(http://www.wackyarchives.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/popped-collar-3.jpg)
Quote from: Jon T. on Sep 04, 2013, 12:58 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Sep 04, 2013, 12:49 PM
Quote from: Jon T. on Sep 04, 2013, 11:46 AM
Quote from: Ruckus on Sep 03, 2013, 11:51 PM
Quote from: iLikeBeer on Sep 03, 2013, 08:16 PM
Clearly, Johnny Fuckup really learned his lesson from having to sit a whole half for his discretions... I really wish someone would just cold cock that cocky SOB! I mean the whole taunting that dude from Rice with his autograph thing? And then blowing off his coach on the sideline after he was flagged for it? If there is anyone that is in need of a good old fashioned ass kicking, it is Johnny Manziel...
:grin: He was being taunted all game by Rice and they were doing the signature stuff to him first. I loved him doing the cash thing as a huge FU to the NCAA. They had no actual proof and besides, that same memorabilia dealer had signed Jadaveon Clowney, Braxton Miller, and Teddy Bridgewater stuff for sale as well. Of course those three just donated their signatures :grin: He's gonna get cheapshotted all season and that may be a problem but I think it's refreshing.
EDIT: I agree with you about him blowing off Sumlin. It didn't look good but I just think he's a fiery dude who feels taken advantage of by everyone around him and is just pissed off.
I'll say this over and over but it's amusing how sports fans get so outraged over things the media creates. You build him up, make him a hero, then create controversy to make the story even bigger. The formula works every time and the only victims are the unpaid players. I don't feel as bad for professional athletes subjected to this but it's just sick and twisted. I'll just keep watching the games.
Go Illini football! :grin: :grin: :grin:
I didn't like that cocksucker last year, before it was cool to not like that cocksucker. :cool:
Are you brewing Miller Lite again as well sportster?
Fuckin' A, bro
(http://www.wackyarchives.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/popped-collar-3.jpg)
Heavens to Betsy, well I'll be...You must have used both Euro and American sizing
Manziel brings all of this on himself by the way he acts like the spoiled brat. Basically he seems like he is a priviliged child who has never been told no by anyone and will be in for a rude awakening if he tries to play pro ball. I think he will be one of the biggest busts ever if he tries to leave college station after this season for the pros as his style of play will not translate IMO. I really had no opinion of him until this offseason and it just seems like it is one story after another about his antics. Granted that can be the medias fault, but at the same time its not like he tries to stay out of the spotlight like other high profile college players.
I don't understand why people talk about Manziel so much, TAM scored more points the first half without him and he's going to get his shit rocked in a couple of weeks against Alabama. ESPN needs to find something else to talk about. I predict a subpar sophomore year
Quote from: davymac on Sep 04, 2013, 09:47 PM
I don't understand why people talk about Manziel so much, TAM scored more points the first half without him and he's going to get his shit rocked in a couple of weeks against Alabama.
:grin: C'mon man. I won't even comment on your supporting fact from the Rice game. Besides the fact that his behavior somehow gets people riled up, there was that part where he led A&M in their first year in the SEC as a redshirt freshman qb to a crappy season where he essentially single handedly beat Alabama in Alabama. I just find him to be the most exciting player in college football and love watching him. And if he gets his shit rocked by Alabama, oh well. They only start 22 4 and 5 star recruits, no biggie. Then there's this resume from last year.
Full-season awards and nominations
2012 Heisman Trophy winner (first freshman to win)[31]
2012 Davey O'Brien National Quarterback Award winner (first freshman to win)[32]
2012 Manning Award winner (first freshman to win)[5]
2012 First-team All-American by:
◦ Associated Press[33]
◦ Football Writers Association of America[34]
◦ Walter Camp Football Foundation[35]
◦ Sporting News[36]
◦ ESPN[37]
◦ CBS Sports[38]
◦ Scout.com[39]
◦ Sports Illustrated[40]
2012 Sporting News College Football Player of the Year [41]
2012 SEC Offensive Player of the Year[42]
2012 SEC Freshman of the Year[42]
2012 All-SEC First-Team Quarterback[42]
2013 Cotton Bowl Classic - Offensive MVP[43]
2012 ESPN.com All-Bowl Team[44]
Finalist, Maxwell Award[45]
Finalist, Walter Camp Player of the Year[46]
Weekly awards
2-time Walter Camp National Offensive Player of the Week[47]
3-time AT&T All-America Player of the Week[48]
3-time SEC Offensive Player of the Week[49]
9-time SEC Freshman of the Week[49]
NCAA records & notes
FBS Freshman record: rushing yards by a quarterback, season (1,343)[5]
FBS Freshman record: total offense, season (5,116)[5]
Most games with 300+ passing yards and 100+ rushing yards, career (3)[5]
FBS record: First Freshman (and 5th player ever) in FBS history with 3,000 passing yards and 1,000 rushing yards, season[5]
FBS record: Rushing yards by a Quarterback in a Bowl Game (229 yards)[5]
Second freshman in FBS history to rush for 1,000 yards and pass for 2,000 yards[5]
First Freshman to win the Heisman Trophy[5]
First Freshman to win the Davey O'Brien National Quarterback Award[5]
First Freshman to win the Manning Award[5]
Only the 4th player to have 20 Passing TD's & 20 Rushing TD's, season
SEC records & notes
Most yards total offense, game (576, breaking Archie Manning's 1969 record of 540 yards, and his own record of 557 set two weeks earlier)[50]
Most yards total offense, season (5,116, breaking Cam Newton's 2010 record in two fewer games)
Most yards total offense, game average (383.3, breaking Tim Couch's 1998 record, of 377.4 yards)
Highest yards per play average (50 plays minimum), game (10.71, against Arkansas on September 29, 2012, breaking Steve Tanneyhill's record of 10.0 yards)
First SEC quarterback to pass for 3,000 yards and rush for 1,000 yards in one season
Texas A&M records & notes
Record for total yards in a season with 5,116.
Record for passing yards in a game with 453 against Arkansas on September 29, 2012.
Record for yards total offense in a game with 576 against Louisiana Tech on October 13, 2012. Broke his previous record of 557 set 2 weeks prior.
In 10 games, Manziel had 4 of the top 10 games in total offense in Texas A&M history.
Logged 10 straight games with 300 or more total yards.
The Third A&M quarterback to surpass 3,000 passing yards in a season.
The 2nd Most Passing Yards in a Single Season.
The Most Rushing TD's in a Single Season.
The 3rd Most Passing TD's in a Single Season.
Tied for 7th Career Passing TD's.
Tied for 13th Career Rushing TD's.
10th in School Career Passing Yards.
20th in School Career Rushing Yards.
Quote from: Ruckus on Sep 05, 2013, 12:36 AM
Quote from: davymac on Sep 04, 2013, 09:47 PM
I don't understand why people talk about Manziel so much, TAM scored more points the first half without him and he's going to get his shit rocked in a couple of weeks against Alabama.
:grin: C'mon man. I won't even comment on your supporting fact from the Rice game. Besides the fact that his behavior somehow gets people riled up, there was that part where he led A&M in their first year in the SEC as a redshirt freshman qb to a crappy season where he essentially single handedly beat Alabama in Alabama. I just find him to be the most exciting player in college football and love watching him. And if he gets his shit rocked by Alabama, oh well. They only start 22 4 and 5 star recruits, no biggie. Then there's this resume from last year.
Full-season awards and nominations
2012 Heisman Trophy winner (first freshman to win)[31]
2012 Davey O'Brien National Quarterback Award winner (first freshman to win)[32]
2012 Manning Award winner (first freshman to win)[5]
2012 First-team All-American by:
◦ Associated Press[33]
◦ Football Writers Association of America[34]
◦ Walter Camp Football Foundation[35]
◦ Sporting News[36]
◦ ESPN[37]
◦ CBS Sports[38]
◦ Scout.com[39]
◦ Sports Illustrated[40]
2012 Sporting News College Football Player of the Year [41]
2012 SEC Offensive Player of the Year[42]
2012 SEC Freshman of the Year[42]
2012 All-SEC First-Team Quarterback[42]
2013 Cotton Bowl Classic - Offensive MVP[43]
2012 ESPN.com All-Bowl Team[44]
Finalist, Maxwell Award[45]
Finalist, Walter Camp Player of the Year[46]
Weekly awards
2-time Walter Camp National Offensive Player of the Week[47]
3-time AT&T All-America Player of the Week[48]
3-time SEC Offensive Player of the Week[49]
9-time SEC Freshman of the Week[49]
NCAA records & notes
FBS Freshman record: rushing yards by a quarterback, season (1,343)[5]
FBS Freshman record: total offense, season (5,116)[5]
Most games with 300+ passing yards and 100+ rushing yards, career (3)[5]
FBS record: First Freshman (and 5th player ever) in FBS history with 3,000 passing yards and 1,000 rushing yards, season[5]
FBS record: Rushing yards by a Quarterback in a Bowl Game (229 yards)[5]
Second freshman in FBS history to rush for 1,000 yards and pass for 2,000 yards[5]
First Freshman to win the Heisman Trophy[5]
First Freshman to win the Davey O'Brien National Quarterback Award[5]
First Freshman to win the Manning Award[5]
Only the 4th player to have 20 Passing TD's & 20 Rushing TD's, season
SEC records & notes
Most yards total offense, game (576, breaking Archie Manning's 1969 record of 540 yards, and his own record of 557 set two weeks earlier)[50]
Most yards total offense, season (5,116, breaking Cam Newton's 2010 record in two fewer games)
Most yards total offense, game average (383.3, breaking Tim Couch's 1998 record, of 377.4 yards)
Highest yards per play average (50 plays minimum), game (10.71, against Arkansas on September 29, 2012, breaking Steve Tanneyhill's record of 10.0 yards)
First SEC quarterback to pass for 3,000 yards and rush for 1,000 yards in one season
Texas A&M records & notes
Record for total yards in a season with 5,116.
Record for passing yards in a game with 453 against Arkansas on September 29, 2012.
Record for yards total offense in a game with 576 against Louisiana Tech on October 13, 2012. Broke his previous record of 557 set 2 weeks prior.
In 10 games, Manziel had 4 of the top 10 games in total offense in Texas A&M history.
Logged 10 straight games with 300 or more total yards.
The Third A&M quarterback to surpass 3,000 passing yards in a season.
The 2nd Most Passing Yards in a Single Season.
The Most Rushing TD's in a Single Season.
The 3rd Most Passing TD's in a Single Season.
Tied for 7th Career Passing TD's.
Tied for 13th Career Rushing TD's.
10th in School Career Passing Yards.
20th in School Career Rushing Yards.
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I could probably put up a bunch of stats about how much money Justin Bieber makes or how many albums he sells. Does that make me like him any more? Nope. He's still a douche just like Johnny Fuckup... :beer:
damn Ruckus are you the JM fan club president :huh:...or is this just a passing phase :undecided:
when I was 20, I used to talk smack b/c I was a drum roadie for a friend of mine who was in a cover band that played at least 3 Bachman-Turner Overdrive songs. So, I'll cut Johnny Me some slack for feeling special.
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Sep 04, 2013, 12:18 PM
How can someone bother you this much who doesn't even know you exist?
So, I can't have an opinion on someone if they don't know I exist? Got it... :rolleyes:
Quote from: iLikeBeer on Sep 05, 2013, 10:49 AM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Sep 04, 2013, 12:18 PM
How can someone bother you this much who doesn't even know you exist?
So, I can't have an opinion on someone if they don't know I exist? Got it... :rolleyes:
Opinion? Yes. Get your panties in such a wad that you could create another planet? meh
I don't know how any of you can cheer for something like this.
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18z86xefqy7uogif/original.gif)
PS- pretty sure he's a pederast too.
Quote from: Jon T. on Sep 05, 2013, 11:24 AM
I don't know how any of you can cheer for something like this.
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18z86xefqy7uogif/original.gif)
PS- pretty sure he's a pederast too.
Exactly! Plus, what the fuck kind of an autograph are you getting when he is signing under those circumstances? It's a lose-lose-lose situation where everyone loses everything a lot.
(well played; razor sharp)
I will be surprised if A & M beats Bama. Saban is a master at picking apart opponents in BCS title games when he has a month to prepare, but he's been sleeping on this for a year now. Although, Bama didn't look dominating over VaTech and anything can happen. Takes a lot for me to root for Saban and Bama and I am still on the fence with this one. probably a game time decision for me.
Quote from: iLikeBeer on Sep 05, 2013, 10:43 AM
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I could probably put up a bunch of stats about how much money Justin Bieber makes or how many albums he sells. Does that make me like him any more? Nope. He's still a douche just like Johnny Fuckup... :beer:
Quote from: TheBigChicken on Sep 05, 2013, 10:45 AM
damn Ruckus are you the JM fan club president :huh:...or is this just a passing phase :undecided:
I totally get how he is a divisive personality in the SEC is bigger than life world and people get all riled up. What I don't understand is how intense the love or hatred is. He's a person playing football and I'd probably have a great time at him at an NBA game, Pebble, and the strip club, just not the Drake show. The way people reflect their personal politics and mores in such black and white terms over a person you don't know is hilarious!
I'll never forget the time the light went on in my wife's head over why men loved sports so much. I was explaining how it fulfills our need to have drama (the same drama we mock women for being so engrossed in) under the veil of athletic competition. I'm talking in broad strokes here so no need for feminists to get their jock strap in a bunch. (see what I didn't do there?)
Love and hate him and we'll wonder why every A&M game will be nationally televised and garner ridiculous ratings. Then again I typically defend the guy who's getting ripped apart by a bunch of angry, couch surfers.
Question for all you SEC'ers. Jon T - Florida? scosby - bama, davymac - georgia, tracy - ole miss, brooke - auburn, chicken? If A&M were playing Ohio State in the national title game next January, who will you root for?
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Sep 05, 2013, 11:43 AM
Quote from: Jon T. on Sep 05, 2013, 11:24 AM
I don't know how any of you can cheer for something like this.
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18z86xefqy7uogif/original.gif)
PS- pretty sure he's a pederast too.
Exactly! Plus, what the fuck kind of an autograph are you getting when he is signing under those circumstances? It's a lose-lose-lose situation where everyone loses everything a lot.
(well played; razor sharp)
Dear Bobby,
The ice cream man will be at your house at 6pm.
Quote from: Ruckus on Sep 05, 2013, 01:27 PM
Question for all you SEC'ers. Jon T - Florida? scosby - bama, davymac - georgia, tracy - ole miss, brooke - auburn, chicken? If A&M were playing Ohio State in the national title game next January, who will you root for?
Ohio State easily for me. I'm not an SEC guy though. If I were a Gator, I'm sure I'd feel much differently. I'm a Florida State guy from the mighty ACC.
Quote from: Ruckus on Sep 05, 2013, 01:27 PM
Question for all you SEC'ers. Jon T - Florida? scosby - bama, davymac - georgia, tracy - ole miss, brooke - auburn, chicken? If A&M were playing Ohio State in the national title game next January, who will you root for?
Fuck Ohio State, oh wait, fuck the Big 10 and the Big 12 and the ACC and the Pac 10 or 12 or whatever and Notre Dame 3x.
Now, after that, fuck Mississippi State, Auburn, Alabama, Johnny Me (but not A&M) and Tennessee. Oh, and since junior may be lurking in on this conversation, fuck Mizzou (but not really).
Quote from: Ruckus on Sep 05, 2013, 01:21 PM
I'll never forget the time the light went on in my wife's head over why men loved sports so much. I was explaining how it fulfills our need to have drama (the same drama we mock women for being so engrossed in) under the veil of athletic competition. I'm talking in broad strokes here so no need for feminists to get their jock strap in a bunch. (see what I didn't do there?)
yep, we are both brilliant cuz I hipped my wife to the same. ESPN is masterful at making this a 24-7 drama. So, what's wrong with Jadavean Clowney? Is he out of shape? Hurt? Soft? Will that 1 game effect his NFL draft status? Will he show up against Georgia? How will his lack of effort against NC effect the ways the ol' ball coach deals with him against Georgia? Is he overrated? Is he underrated?
(http://amokmagazine.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/ok_080713_the-hills-drama.gif)
Quote from: Ruckus on Sep 05, 2013, 01:27 PM
Question for all you SEC'ers. Jon T - Florida? scosby - bama, davymac - georgia, tracy - ole miss, brooke - auburn, chicken? If A&M were playing Ohio State in the national title game next January, who will you root for?
You forgot BH-Mizzou.
I noticed the Illini have some votes in the polls. Can they compete this year?
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Sep 05, 2013, 03:34 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Sep 05, 2013, 01:27 PM
Question for all you SEC'ers. Jon T - Florida? scosby - bama, davymac - georgia, tracy - ole miss, brooke - auburn, chicken? If A&M were playing Ohio State in the national title game next January, who will you root for?
Fuck Ohio State, oh wait, fuck the Big 10 and the Big 12 and the ACC and the Pac 10 or 12 or whatever and Notre Dame 3x.
Now, after that, fuck Mississippi State, Auburn, Alabama, Johnny Me (but not A&M) and Tennessee. Oh, and since junior may be lurking in on this conversation, fuck Mizzou (but not really).
Braxton. Word.
Quote from: Penny Lane on Sep 05, 2013, 05:02 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Sep 05, 2013, 03:34 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Sep 05, 2013, 01:27 PM
Question for all you SEC'ers. Jon T - Florida? scosby - bama, davymac - georgia, tracy - ole miss, brooke - auburn, chicken? If A&M were playing Ohio State in the national title game next January, who will you root for?
Fuck Ohio State, oh wait, fuck the Big 10 and the Big 12 and the ACC and the Pac 10 or 12 or whatever and Notre Dame 3x.
Now, after that, fuck Mississippi State, Auburn, Alabama, Johnny Me (but not A&M) and Tennessee. Oh, and since junior may be lurking in on this conversation, fuck Mizzou (but not really).
Braxton. Word.
Ohio State doesn't play anybody. Sentence.
With everybody & the media hating on Johnny Football, I personally am rooting for him and enjoyed his fuck you attitude last week. Longterm, he'd be best off reflecting on all the negative attention he received in the offseason and changing his ways, but I loved his antics last week and give him a golfclap for not giving a fuck about what anyone thinks.
Quote from: TheBigChicken on Sep 03, 2013, 12:41 PM
I would personally like to thank the Georgia Bulldogs for losing their 1st game. You guys usually wait a few games to drop a stinker...Now for the love of God....fire Mark Richt....send him off to be an offensive co-ordinator like he was at FSU...we dont need a choir boy in Athens any longer...please send us a "Saban-like" killer...this Saturday is South Carolina...cant wait to see Spurrier make camp in Richts head....cant wait to see GA in the Poulan Weed Wacker Bowl played on Dec.14... :drum:...Mr.Richt you SUCK
JADEVEON WHO?!!? WHAT WAS THAT?! Gurley made clowney and the SC defense his bitch! GO DAWGS! :tongue:
I'm not the biggest Richt fan, but as a UGA fan I will always enjoy seeing the visor come off Spurrier...
Aaron Murray looks great davymac :thumbsup:
I loved the straight up beat down of Texas by BYU. Just fascinating for a team with such blue chip talent to just have the ball run down their throat at will.
And as counterpoint to Manziel, how refreshing is Devin Gardner of Michigan. Hate to root for the maize and blue but I like that dude.
The line for Bama at A&M opened at Bama -7. I like Bama there.
Quote from: BH on Sep 05, 2013, 04:43 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Sep 05, 2013, 01:27 PM
Question for all you SEC'ers. Jon T - Florida? scosby - bama, davymac - georgia, tracy - ole miss, brooke - auburn, chicken? If A&M were playing Ohio State in the national title game next January, who will you root for?
You forgot BH-Mizzou.
I noticed the Illini have some votes in the polls. Can they compete this year?
Stop messin' with me BH. We might be the worst team in the Big 10. Mizzou! I love Blaine Gabbert
Quote from: Ruckus on Sep 08, 2013, 11:19 AM
I loved the straight up beat down of Texas by BYU. Just fascinating for a team with such blue chip talent to just have the ball run down their throat at will.
Add USC losing and it was a great late night
USC should never be ranked again. They only get ranked because they're USC yet they're trash.
Texas A&M's defense looks terrible. Alabama should have no problem scoring. I'd like to see what they could've came up with had Nick Saban not strategically placed his bye week before the big rematch. If Alabama were to lose, I don't see the SEC getting a national title this year unless team's fall apart like they did last year.
Quote from: Ruckus on Sep 08, 2013, 02:25 PM
Quote from: BH on Sep 05, 2013, 04:43 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Sep 05, 2013, 01:27 PM
Question for all you SEC'ers. Jon T - Florida? scosby - bama, davymac - georgia, tracy - ole miss, brooke - auburn, chicken? If A&M were playing Ohio State in the national title game next January, who will you root for?
You forgot BH-Mizzou.
I noticed the Illini have some votes in the polls. Can they compete this year?
Stop messin' with me BH. We might be the worst team in the Big 10. Mizzou! I love Blaine Gabbert
What?! I thought they looked pretty good Saturday. I'm not messing with you! They get a lot of pub around here so I was curious what you thought about this season.
Doesn't look like Gabbert's going to make it to game 4. I obviously loved having him on Mizzou but I never thought he was a real winner. No fire. I'm hoping Chase Daniel gets a shot in KC but looks like Alex Smith got off to a good start.
Quote from: Ruckus on Sep 08, 2013, 11:19 AM
And as counterpoint to Manziel, how refreshing is Devin Gardner of Michigan. Hate to root for the maize and blue but I like that dude.
What is this? A Michigan compliment coming from Ruckus? :shocked:
Seriously though, for all of the Manziel apologists making excuses about him just acting his age, DG is a
whole year older than Johnny Fuckup. Yet, somehow DG knows his role. He graduated in 3 years, doesn't seek out the spotlight and when Sam Ponder asked what he was going to be for Halloween, he said he won't be dressing up for Halloween because he's the QB at Michigan! Of course Ponder followed up by asking if he was too cool for that now and he was like, I know I'm not too cool for that as evidenced by him admitting that he spends his Friday nights watching Phineas and Ferb... :smiley:
Btw, Brady Hoke was on the Dan Patrick Show last week and DP asked Hoke to finish the sentence, "If Johnny Manziel was your quarterback..."
Hoke's reply was, "He'd probably be playing behind Devin Gardner!" :cool:
That's what you'd call a coach having his QB's back! :thumbsup:
All in all, great win for Michigan Saturday. I went old school as I was camping with our family for the weekend so I listened to the game via an iphone radio app next to the campfire! :beer: Unfortunately, I couldn't find any Michigan broadcasts so I had to listen to the ND broadcast which was painful at times... :tongue: As for the game, I was not going to fall off the ledge if Michigan were to have lost as I feel they are still at least a year away for being in the talk of competing for a NC, but I do think they are very much in the mix for getting to Indy for the B1G Championship and losing to ND would have done nothing to change that. But beating the Irish and watching Brian Kelly's face turn different shades of purple is always super sweet ! :beer:
Quote from: Ruckus on Sep 08, 2013, 02:25 PM
Stop messin' with me BH. We might be the worst team in the Big 10.
While Illinois wasn't that impressive in their opener against Southern Illinois, they certainly looked impressive Saturday against Cincy! And I think Illinois is far from the worst team in the B1G. Purdon't got curb stomped by Cincy the week before your Illini took the Bearcats to the woodshed.
You guys can make a statement this weekend against Udub who looked pretty good whipping up on BYU. The same BYU that just probably put the final nail in Mack Brown's coffin for his career at UT.
And I'm wondering how long it will be until Lane Kiffin is fired at USC? I'm beginning to wonder if he'll even make it thru the season? I realize USC is dealing with NCAA sanctions and they have serious depth issues, but they still out talent just about everyone on their schedule, especially Wazzu?! If they can't even beat Wazzu at home, it wouldn't shock me to see BC go out there and make them 1-2...
Anyone else see Eminem's interview during the ND/MICH game? I realize this had got publicized a lot, but even watching it live it felt real awkward.
Cant wait for Bama/A&M. Im just glad its a mid afternoon game because I was worried Id miss some of it for the Mayweather/Canelo fight :bath:
Quote from: capt. scotty on Sep 11, 2013, 01:47 AM
Anyone else see Eminem's interview during the ND/MICH game? I realize this had got publicized a lot, but even watching it live it felt real awkward.
That was just bizzare. Awkward is a good word to describe it.
Obviously A&M/Bama is getting all the headlines, but I feel like there are some sneaky good Big 10 vs. Pac 12 games this weekend. Namely, Illinois/Washington, Arizona State/Wisconsin, and UCLA/Nebraska. I'm interested in watching all three of those.
iLikeBeer, congrats to you and your skunkbears on the win Saturday. I'm a Notre Dame alum, and it was very frustrating to watch how far our D has fallen from last year. I feel they made it somewhat easy for you, but not to take away from you guys, you played a great game offensively. I know Denard is like royalty among Michigan fans, but Gardner is just lightyears better at QB. You guys might be looking at a pretty great year, which pains me greatly to say.
Quote from: MOWJO8185 on Sep 11, 2013, 12:19 PM
iLikeBeer, congrats to you and your skunkbears on the win Saturday. I'm a Notre Dame alum, and it was very frustrating to watch how far our D has fallen from last year. I feel they made it somewhat easy for you, but not to take away from you guys, you played a great game offensively. I know Denard is like royalty among Michigan fans, but Gardner is just lightyears better at QB. You guys might be looking at a pretty great year, which pains me greatly to say.
Thanks MOWJO. I loved Denard, but he was limited by his arm if you ask me. He was fun to watch when he was on (ND games in 2010 and 2011) and painful to watch when he was off (ND 2012, MSU 2011). Devin just looks like he has the whole package. He has a cannon for an arm. He has accuracy. AND he can beat you with his legs. He should have some stat padding games from now until Michigan meets up with PSU in Happy Valley.
Quote from: iLikeBeer on Sep 11, 2013, 04:56 PM
Quote from: MOWJO8185 on Sep 11, 2013, 12:19 PM
iLikeBeer, congrats to you and your skunkbears on the win Saturday. I'm a Notre Dame alum, and it was very frustrating to watch how far our D has fallen from last year. I feel they made it somewhat easy for you, but not to take away from you guys, you played a great game offensively. I know Denard is like royalty among Michigan fans, but Gardner is just lightyears better at QB. You guys might be looking at a pretty great year, which pains me greatly to say.
Thanks MOWJO. I loved Denard, but he was limited by his arm if you ask me. He was fun to watch when he was on (ND games in 2010 and 2011) and painful to watch when he was off (ND 2012, MSU 2011). Devin just looks like he has the whole package. He has a cannon for an arm. He has accuracy. AND he can beat you with his legs. He should have some stat padding games from now until Michigan meets up with PSU in Happy Valley.
He DOES seem to have the whole package! Like making good decisions under pressure! You gotta figure the time the ball was in the air bled a little clock for the Wolverines.
Devin Gardner Throws An Interception In The End Zone Vs. Notre Dame (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIiwWG9ejgg#)
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Sep 11, 2013, 04:58 PM
Quote from: iLikeBeer on Sep 11, 2013, 04:56 PM
Quote from: MOWJO8185 on Sep 11, 2013, 12:19 PM
iLikeBeer, congrats to you and your skunkbears on the win Saturday. I'm a Notre Dame alum, and it was very frustrating to watch how far our D has fallen from last year. I feel they made it somewhat easy for you, but not to take away from you guys, you played a great game offensively. I know Denard is like royalty among Michigan fans, but Gardner is just lightyears better at QB. You guys might be looking at a pretty great year, which pains me greatly to say.
Thanks MOWJO. I loved Denard, but he was limited by his arm if you ask me. He was fun to watch when he was on (ND games in 2010 and 2011) and painful to watch when he was off (ND 2012, MSU 2011). Devin just looks like he has the whole package. He has a cannon for an arm. He has accuracy. AND he can beat you with his legs. He should have some stat padding games from now until Michigan meets up with PSU in Happy Valley.
He DOES seem to have the whole package! Like making good decisions under pressure! You gotta figure the time the ball was in the air bled a little clock for the Wolverines.
Devin Gardner Throws An Interception In The End Zone Vs. Notre Dame (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIiwWG9ejgg#)
So the commentator's quote during the game was he should have taken the safety. Well he wasn't trying to throw a pick either. The way the offense was able to move the ball against ND, getting the ball back, even after the bad TD giveaway may have been better than giving ND the ball back with a short field at that point in the game. It's always an interesting debate.
I'm gonna call Gardner "Baby Manziel" from now on.
Quote from: Ruckus on Sep 11, 2013, 11:40 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Sep 11, 2013, 04:58 PM
He DOES seem to have the whole package! Like making good decisions under pressure! You gotta figure the time the ball was in the air bled a little clock for the Wolverines.
Devin Gardner Throws An Interception In The End Zone Vs. Notre Dame (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIiwWG9ejgg#)
So the commentator's quote during the game was he should have taken the safety. Well he wasn't trying to throw a pick either. The way the offense was able to move the ball against ND, getting the ball back, even after the bad TD giveaway may have been better than giving ND the ball back with a short field at that point in the game. It's always an interesting debate.
I'm gonna call Gardner "Baby Manziel" from now on.
It's also called a learning experience. That was basically the only poor decision Devin made in the entire game. ND was blitzing him all night long and I'd say he handled most of the pressure he faced just fine. Oh, and Michigan STILL won by 11 despite Gardner's gift to them.
It was also just his 7th start. And if there is one knock on Devin it is that he has been prone to trying to force throws he shouldn't make. However, in his 2 starts this year, I feel he has done a much better job of throwing the ball away when nothing is there. Oh, and he did have 5 td's (4 passing, 1 rushing) and 294 yards passing (and another 80+ rushing) so I think he did ok despite the one gaff he had with his pick 6...
And Ruckus, I'll pass on adopting your nickname... :tongue: :wink:
Any of you SEC honks hear about this yet:
Documents, text messages reveal impermissible benefits to five SECheat players (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--documents--texts-reveal-impermissible-benefits-to-five-sec-players-202513237.html)
One of the players in question is DJ Fluker from Alabama and if the allegations prove true, Bama could be forced to vacate their 2012 NC. Although, this is the NCAA we're talking about and we all know they can't figure out how to get their heads out of their own asses so I doubt very strongly if anything come of this. There's more important fish to fry than trying to actually curb the rampant cheating that goes on in the SEC like making sure programs don't spend too much time stretching... :rolleyes:
Quote from: iLikeBeer on Sep 12, 2013, 09:32 AM
Any of you SEC honks hear about this yet:
Documents, text messages reveal impermissible benefits to five SECheat players (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--documents--texts-reveal-impermissible-benefits-to-five-sec-players-202513237.html)
One of the players in question is DJ Fluker from Alabama and if the allegations prove true, Bama could be forced to vacate their 2012 NC. Although, this is the NCAA we're talking about and we all know they can't figure out how to get their heads out of their own asses so I doubt very strongly if anything come of this. There's more important fish to fry than trying to actually curb the rampant cheating that goes on in the SEC like making sure programs don't spend too much time stretching... :rolleyes:
Michigan is on probation goofball. So is Ohio State.
Big 10 football fans shouldn't be allowed to type "SEC"
Win a title; in the meantime, just sit back and admire. The ONLY conference in the whole country that matters is the SEC and
EVERYONE knows this, some just won't admit it.
Speaking of cheating... :rolleyes:
I've wanted to hold off commenting on the SI articles until I've read them all. But so far they seem overblown and fairly ridiculous, in that they're so unsubstantiated, some of it so far-fetched, and why single out OSU for the sort of improprieties that are well known to be widespread throughout college football?
Several of the former players quoted have spoken out as being misquoted, or not even having been informed that they were being interviewed. This business about cash-filled envelopes in the locker room? Come ON, you think that's going to happen without a reporter seeing it, and for ten years?
Test-taking and grade changing? Drugs? Sex? PLEASE, let's visit Baylor, or Alabama, or Holy Cross, for god's sake, and tell me the same stuff isn't going on. The academics are a problem for sure, if true to the extent reported, but just try to solve those other things.
OSU has had lots of NCAA attention, deservedly so, during Dexter Manley's illiteracy, the Jimmy Johnson era, and the Hart Lee Dykes debacle. But now it feels like this "Special Report" from SI is being presented as part of OSU's perceived status as a habitual offender because of that past.
Those things said, I have no doubt that much of what is being described has actually happened, especially when Les Miles was here, as it was understood that he would be off to bigger pastures before long. But I think Mike Gundy has been much more diligent about operating cleanly, especially after witnessing first-hand the punishments that have been handed down in the past. Why would he think they could get away with it now?
What do you guys think? Are we still dirty? Who's clean?
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Sep 12, 2013, 09:59 AM
Quote from: iLikeBeer on Sep 12, 2013, 09:32 AM
Any of you SEC honks hear about this yet:
Documents, text messages reveal impermissible benefits to five SECheat players (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--documents--texts-reveal-impermissible-benefits-to-five-sec-players-202513237.html)
One of the players in question is DJ Fluker from Alabama and if the allegations prove true, Bama could be forced to vacate their 2012 NC. Although, this is the NCAA we're talking about and we all know they can't figure out how to get their heads out of their own asses so I doubt very strongly if anything come of this. There's more important fish to fry than trying to actually curb the rampant cheating that goes on in the SEC like making sure programs don't spend too much time stretching... :rolleyes:
Michigan is on probation goofball. So is Ohio State.
Big 10 football fans shouldn't be allowed to type "SEC"
Win a title; in the meantime, just sit back and admire. The ONLY conference in the whole country that matters is the SEC and EVERYONE knows this, some just won't admit it.
Thanks for the heads up about Michigan being on probation captain obvious. That's why I ended my last post by saying the NCAA only focuses on rampant cheating like over stretching which is basically all the NCAA could find in their investigation. Oh, and the coach responsible for getting Michigan on probation is now coaching in the desert fwiw.
As for your jab at Ohio State, the joke among Michigan fans is they belong in the SEC for all of the cheating they get away with! Tressel was finally caught red-handed in a lie that he'd been getting away with doing for his entire career dating back to his days at Youngstown State and was exposed for the cheater he has always been and that is why the buckeyes are now finally on probation and had nothing to show for 12-0!
Btw, did you read the Yahoo article? Because, unlike the SI witch hunt article on Okie St, the Yahoo article has a paper trail of evidence showing the players in question were getting paid! Usually what gets players like Scam Newton and Johnny Fuckup off the hook is that they don't leave a paper trail and the NCAA can't prove anything. But in this case, there is CLEARLY a big paper trail and I don't see how the players in question get off in this case and if they do, it only further proves the NCAA is scared to go after the Southern
Ethics Conference...
Quote from: iLikeBeer on Sep 12, 2013, 12:42 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Sep 12, 2013, 09:59 AM
Quote from: iLikeBeer on Sep 12, 2013, 09:32 AM
Any of you SEC honks hear about this yet:
Documents, text messages reveal impermissible benefits to five SECheat players (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--documents--texts-reveal-impermissible-benefits-to-five-sec-players-202513237.html)
One of the players in question is DJ Fluker from Alabama and if the allegations prove true, Bama could be forced to vacate their 2012 NC. Although, this is the NCAA we're talking about and we all know they can't figure out how to get their heads out of their own asses so I doubt very strongly if anything come of this. There's more important fish to fry than trying to actually curb the rampant cheating that goes on in the SEC like making sure programs don't spend too much time stretching... :rolleyes:
Michigan is on probation goofball. So is Ohio State.
Big 10 football fans shouldn't be allowed to type "SEC"
Win a title; in the meantime, just sit back and admire. The ONLY conference in the whole country that matters is the SEC and EVERYONE knows this, some just won't admit it.
Thanks for the heads up about Michigan being on probation captain obvious. That's why I ended my last post by saying the NCAA only focuses on rampant cheating like over stretching which is basically all the NCAA could find in their investigation. Oh, and the coach responsible for getting Michigan on probation is now coaching in the desert fwiw.
As for your jab at Ohio State, the joke among Michigan fans is they belong in the SEC for all of the cheating they get away with! Tressel was finally caught red-handed in a lie that he'd been getting away with doing for his entire career dating back to his days at Youngstown State and was exposed for the cheater he has always been and that is why the buckeyes are now finally on probation and had nothing to show for 12-0!
Btw, did you read the Yahoo article? Because, unlike the SI witch hunt article on Okie St, the Yahoo article has a paper trail of evidence showing the players in question were getting paid! Usually what gets players like Scam Newton and Johnny Fuckup off the hook is that they don't leave a paper trail and the NCAA can't prove anything. But in this case, there is CLEARLY a big paper trail and I don't see how the players in question get off in this case and if they do, it only further proves the NCAA is scared to go after the Southern Ethics Conference...
So, b/c the SEC cheats, we have 9 BCS titles and b/c the Big 10 is clean, they have 1. Got it.
You are hilarious ILB. I'll just leave Michigan alone. They are the last bastion of all that is right in amateur athletics.
I'm humored by the fact that the masses are finally becoming tolerant of recruitment tactics. I used to take so much shit for my hard stance on the NCAA for a decade and a half, particularly from a specific demographic, and now the holier than thous seem to be dwindling.
Quote from: Ruckus on Sep 12, 2013, 02:10 PM
You are hilarious ILB. I'll just leave Michigan alone. They are the last bastion of all that is right in amateur athletics.
That they are... :cool: :tongue:
Quote from: Ruckus on Sep 12, 2013, 02:10 PM
I'm humored by the fact that the masses are finally becoming tolerant of recruitment tactics. I used to take so much shit for my hard stance on the NCAA for a decade and a half, particularly from a specific demographic, and now the holier than thous seem to be dwindling.
This is because the drum beat for paying these collegiate athletes is getting louder and louder. My own personal feeling in all of this is that I just wish that the power conferences of college football would just give the NCAA a big Fuck You, we don't need you anymore and form their own league. What exactly does the NCAA do anyways besides prove what an inept organization they are. Their sanctions they hand down are inconsistent and that's putting it mildly. Their ineptitude is beyond reproach except maybe FIFA might trump them in that department.
The bottom line is, I think people are just becoming numb to hearing reports like the ones that have come out by Yahoo and SI this week because it is becoming the norm rather than the exception. And the risk of getting caught hasn't been outweighed by the reward as oftentimes, the players in question are already in the NFL and are long gone by the time the NCAA comes around to placing sanctions on said school. Clearly, the system is broke as it stands now and something needs to be done to remedy the problem.
The SEC is the only conference that matters? Is that why Georgia and Florida have lost to ACC teams in the first 2 weeks?
Quote from: capt. scotty on Sep 12, 2013, 06:44 PM
The SEC is the only conference that matters? Is that why Georgia and Florida have lost to ACC teams in the first 2 weeks?
Easy, it still stings!
Quote from: capt. scotty on Sep 12, 2013, 06:44 PM
The SEC is the only conference that matters? Is that why Georgia and Florida have lost to ACC teams in the first 2 weeks?
Yes, the SEC is the only conference that matters; that's why you're talking about 1st and 2nd week games that could have gone either way.
Talk BCS titles without talking SEC......I am listening....
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Sep 12, 2013, 10:19 PM
Quote from: capt. scotty on Sep 12, 2013, 06:44 PM
The SEC is the only conference that matters? Is that why Georgia and Florida have lost to ACC teams in the first 2 weeks?
Yes, the SEC is the only conference that matters; that's why you're talking about 1st and 2nd week games that could have gone either way.
Talk BCS titles without talking SEC......I am listening....
I guess I'll have to wait a few weeks for a comeback. Im talking about 1st and 2nd week games because the proof is in the pudding. UGA lost to Clemson, Florida lost to the U.
So while as great as the SEC may be, they've lost to 2 ACC teams so far.
Quote from: capt. scotty on Sep 13, 2013, 12:00 AM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Sep 12, 2013, 10:19 PM
Quote from: capt. scotty on Sep 12, 2013, 06:44 PM
The SEC is the only conference that matters? Is that why Georgia and Florida have lost to ACC teams in the first 2 weeks?
Yes, the SEC is the only conference that matters; that's why you're talking about 1st and 2nd week games that could have gone either way.
Talk BCS titles without talking SEC......I am listening....
I guess I'll have to wait a few weeks for a comeback. Im talking about 1st and 2nd week games because the proof is in the pudding. UGA lost to Clemson, Florida lost to the U.
So while as great as the SEC may be, they've lost to 2 ACC teams so far.
Right. Because the ACC is a better football conference than the SEC.
Look, I know you're trolling me up and it's all fun, but seriously>
How would
you describe the SEC's absolute dominance in football, having won 7 BCS Titles in a row? What word would you use? (I mean, besides hate)
What I don't get is the obsessive conference loyalty from SEC fan. Its as if because Bama wins the title, if your team is in the SEC, you somehow share a part of it? I could care less how many titles the B1G has. All I care about is Michigan competing for a national title! I just can't understand the logic of SEC fan. I just don't get how UGA fans would want UF to win a NC just because they're SEC. Or Auburn fan pulling for Bama or UT fan pulling for LSU.
I know for me, I won't root for OSU when they're playing in the NC (yes even if they're playing an SEC team) just so I can pump my chest out and shout Big 10 rules?! I mean, I have 2 teams I root for every Saturday. Michigan and the team that's playing OSU.
But I guess when the school you root for has been less than irrelevant for decades, you have to hang your hat on something?
Quote from: iLikeBeer on Sep 13, 2013, 09:50 AM
What I don't get is the obsessive conference loyalty from SEC fan. Its as if because Bama wins the title, if your team is in the SEC, you somehow share a part of it? I could care less how many titles the B1G has. All I care about is Michigan competing for a national title! I just can't understand the logic of SEC fan. I just don't get how UGA fans would want UF to win a NC just because they're SEC. Or Auburn fan pulling for Bama or UT fan pulling for LSU.
I know for me, I won't root for OSU when they're playing in the NC (yes even if they're playing an SEC team) just so I can pump my chest out and shout Big 10 rules?! I mean, I have 2 teams I root for every Saturday. Michigan and the team that's playing OSU.
But I guess when the school you root for has been less than irrelevant for decades, you have to hang your hat on something?
It's a southern thing; you wouldn't understand.
Plus, it's sort of silly (in the grand scheme of life) to be so passionate about a game that you hate someone. It's really just a game and it's all fun!
You already have "cooking with love." You can't monopolize inferiority complexes as well Tracy.
Quote from: Ruckus on Sep 13, 2013, 11:47 AM
You already have "cooking with love." You can't monopolize inferiority complexes as well Tracy.
I have so many inferiority complexes that I am down right cocky (I know, it's complicated)
Here you go BH
Mizzou Student Section Gator Chomp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD_PBH9SxoE#)
i rarely come on the boards, so don't mind me .. just wanted to say HOLY HELL WHAT A GREAT GAME - Auburn @ Texas A&M :cheesy: :cheesy: .. that is all.
also, i totally get the SEC thing. me, my friends, my family .. if it isn't our team playing, then we'll pull for SEC in general. the only time i go against that is if it's a team i particularly loath. as an auburn fan, i'd still pull for 'bama. that, however, went to the wayside the past year or two b/c i've had enough from the bammer's. no offense to any bama fans or my dad and his family who all hail from t-town .. bear bryant portraits, season tix, and all.
Quote from: br00ke on Oct 21, 2013, 05:03 PM
i rarely come on the boards, so don't mind me .. just wanted to say HOLY HELL WHAT A GREAT GAME - Auburn @ Texas A&M :cheesy: :cheesy: .. that is all.
also, i totally get the SEC thing. me, my friends, my family .. if it isn't our team playing, then we'll pull for SEC in general. the only time i go against that is if it's a team i particularly loath. as an auburn fan, i'd still pull for 'bama. that, however, went to the wayside the past year or two b/c i've had enough from the bammer's. no offense to any bama fans or my dad and his family who all hail from t-town .. bear bryant portraits, season tix, and all.
How bout them War Eagle Tigers! How many mascots do you all get, anyhow?
And if you try to talk to brooke about football games that occur in other conferences, you'll be rewarded with a blank stare that says, "there are other football games besides those in the SEC?" :wink:
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Oct 21, 2013, 02:11 PM
Here you go BH
Mizzou Student Section Gator Chomp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD_PBH9SxoE#)
Nice! I'm still waiting on Mahgeetah34 to say he was wrong about our ability to compete in the SEC. :smiley:
Quote from: Crispy on Oct 21, 2013, 05:36 PM
And if you try to talk to brooke about football games that occur in other conferences, you'll be rewarded with a blank stare that says, "there are other football games besides those in the SEC?" :wink:
that's only partially true. i like watching oregon as well as OSU, texas, and TCU when they are good. oh and i always enjoy a michigan / michigan st. rivalry game.
it's not the SEC's fault they play the best ball :wink:
as for the illegal recruitment / cheating, i think EVERYONE does it. the only difference is to what degree and getting caught. i think the bigger football program a school has, the more of that you'll find. also, just b/c i think everyone does it, doesn't mean i condone or agree with it.
reminds me a bit of when the ravens went to the super bowl last year and everyone was all they have a killer on their team, how could anyone pull for that team. i remember particularly some that said that were patriots fans. then we have aaron hernandez. oh and michael vic of course, though now he's been forgiven apparently. obviously none of this in no way is the same thing at all, i just think it's silly to think everyone's team is full of boy scouts ... coaching & staff included.
Quote from: br00ke on Oct 22, 2013, 07:41 AM
Quote from: Crispy on Oct 21, 2013, 05:36 PM
And if you try to talk to brooke about football games that occur in other conferences, you'll be rewarded with a blank stare that says, "there are other football games besides those in the SEC?" :wink:
that's only partially true. i like watching oregon as well as OSU, texas, and TCU when they are good. oh and i always enjoy a michigan / michigan st. rivalry game.
it's not the SEC's fault they play the best ball :wink:
:thumbsup: It is too the SEC's fault, they get all the best players!
BH, count me as one of those who also thought Mizzou would have a hard time in the SEC, although I didn't say it out loud so much. So why in the hell weren't you guys tearing up the Big 12 this whole time if you're so awesome? :wink:
Quote from: br00ke on Oct 22, 2013, 07:41 AM
that's only partially true. i like watching oregon as well as OSU, texas, and TCU when they are good. oh and i always enjoy a michigan / michigan st. rivalry game.
Please tell me the OSU your are referring to is Okie State or Oregon State and not Ohio State... :tongue: :wink:
And the State of Michigan rivalry is coming up a week from Saturday! :thumbsup: :beer:
Oh! I automatically figured she meant Oklahoma State! :wink:
i'll never tell :grin:
Quote from: Crispy on Oct 22, 2013, 09:41 AM
Quote from: br00ke on Oct 22, 2013, 07:41 AM
Quote from: Crispy on Oct 21, 2013, 05:36 PM
And if you try to talk to brooke about football games that occur in other conferences, you'll be rewarded with a blank stare that says, "there are other football games besides those in the SEC?" :wink:
that's only partially true. i like watching oregon as well as OSU, texas, and TCU when they are good. oh and i always enjoy a michigan / michigan st. rivalry game.
it's not the SEC's fault they play the best ball :wink:
:thumbsup: It is too the SEC's fault, they get all the best players!
BH, count me as one of those who also thought Mizzou would have a hard time in the SEC, although I didn't say it out loud so much. So why in the hell weren't you guys tearing up the Big 12 this whole time if you're so awesome? :wink:
Well my point all along was that we could compete like we competed in the Big 12. We had good years, more bad years and a couple great years. Under Pinkel we have had mostly good years. Last year was just a down year which we would have had in the Big 12 as well. Also, I don't think we are the 5th best team in the country. We will probably come back down to earth. If we make it to the SEC championship game I have no illusions that we will beat Alabama. Again, I just knew we could have good years once in awhile in the SEC just like we did in the Big 12. We WERE one game away from the National Championship before OU showed us who was still boss.
Quote from: BH on Oct 22, 2013, 05:03 PM
Quote from: Crispy on Oct 22, 2013, 09:41 AM
Quote from: br00ke on Oct 22, 2013, 07:41 AM
Quote from: Crispy on Oct 21, 2013, 05:36 PM
And if you try to talk to brooke about football games that occur in other conferences, you'll be rewarded with a blank stare that says, "there are other football games besides those in the SEC?" :wink:
that's only partially true. i like watching oregon as well as OSU, texas, and TCU when they are good. oh and i always enjoy a michigan / michigan st. rivalry game.
it's not the SEC's fault they play the best ball :wink:
:thumbsup: It is too the SEC's fault, they get all the best players!
BH, count me as one of those who also thought Mizzou would have a hard time in the SEC, although I didn't say it out loud so much. So why in the hell weren't you guys tearing up the Big 12 this whole time if you're so awesome? :wink:
Well my point all along was that we could compete like we competed in the Big 12. We had good years, more bad years and a couple great years. Under Pinkel we have had mostly good years. Last year was just a down year which we would have had in the Big 12 as well. Also, I don't think we are the 5th best team in the country. We will probably come back down to earth. If we make it to the SEC championship game I have no illusions that we will beat Alabama. Again, I just knew we could have good years once in awhile in the SEC just like we did in the Big 12. We WERE one game away from the National Championship before OU showed us who was still boss.
You are being far too realistic here, man. :wink: Sounds much like I did a couple years ago when OSU was tearing it up, and Iowa State(!) reminded who we were.
Quote from: BH on Oct 21, 2013, 06:05 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Oct 21, 2013, 02:11 PM
Here you go BH
Mizzou Student Section Gator Chomp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD_PBH9SxoE#)
Nice! I'm still waiting on Mahgeetah34 to say he was wrong about our ability to compete in the SEC. :smiley:
Good evening! Well I must say that Missouri snuck up out of nowhere. The SEC is really down this year and it's disappointing. No defense, Georgia plagued with injuries while LSU, South Carolina and Florida are overrated (even prior to recent losses). I'm pulling for a Missouri or even Oregon upset of Alabama (Texas A&M would've had it if they just had a decent defense).
sooooo .. oregon's insane loss to stanford :shocked: i didn't get to watch the game, but when i got out of the deer tick show, i immediately checked the final score and was blown away. i wonder what the rankings will look like after tomorrow. also, i'm realllly hoping LSU can put up a good fight, please don't let it be a blowout.
Quote from: br00ke on Nov 08, 2013, 02:57 PM
sooooo .. oregon's insane loss to stanford :shocked: i didn't get to watch the game, but when i got out of the deer tick show, i immediately checked the final score and was blown away. i wonder what the rankings will look like after tomorrow. also, i'm realllly hoping LSU can put up a good fight, please don't let it be a blowout.
I watched most of that game and all I have to say is how in the hell did Stanford lose to freaking Utah? Whatever the reason, the Cardinal certainly have the blueprint for beating the Ducks! That game was 26-0 at one point before Oregon got a couple of lucky plays that made the final score look a bit more respectable than it actually was. One was a blocked fg that would have put Stanford up 29-6, but instead Oregon returned it for a td to make it 26-13. Then the Ducks recovered an onside kick and drove for another td to make it 26-20. But their luck ran out as they failed on their 2nd onside kick and Stanford was able to run out the clock...
So yeah, how about that GA @ AU game !!!?!!?! I totally lost my shit in a bar over this one .. accidentally whacking a guy on the head and screaming WAR EAGLE !!!
Miracle Catch! (HD) Auburn Game Winning TD vs Georgia (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf5jnajTKJI#ws)
Quote from: br00ke on Nov 18, 2013, 04:27 PM
So yeah, how about that GA @ AU game !!!?!!?! I totally lost my shit in a bar over this one .. accidentally whacking a guy on the head and screaming WAR EAGLE !!!
Miracle Catch! (HD) Auburn Game Winning TD vs Georgia (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf5jnajTKJI#ws)
that was so insane, and almost as crazy was the fact that Georgia put themselves in a position to win it in 3 plays w/ 25 seconds to go! that finish reminded me of that wild Kentucky/LSU game a few years back.
Quote from: ItBeats4Jew on Nov 18, 2013, 06:12 PM
Quote from: br00ke on Nov 18, 2013, 04:27 PM
So yeah, how about that GA @ AU game !!!?!!?! I totally lost my shit in a bar over this one .. accidentally whacking a guy on the head and screaming WAR EAGLE !!!
Miracle Catch! (HD) Auburn Game Winning TD vs Georgia (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf5jnajTKJI#ws)
that was so insane, and almost as crazy was the fact that Georgia put themselves in a position to win it in 3 plays w/ 25 seconds to go! that finish reminded me of that wild Kentucky/LSU game a few years back.
We didn't deserve to win that game, but damn we had it WON!!! You are welcome Auburn, lucky bastards!
slow day in college ball today, but there are still some goodies with Baylor @ OKC .. also Mizzou @ Ole Miss might be worth a watch as well as A&M @ LSU. mostly i am just focused on next weekend, IRON BOWL !!!
Quote from: br00ke on Nov 23, 2013, 10:03 AM
slow day in college ball today, but there are still some goodies with Baylor @ OKC .. also Mizzou @ Ole Miss might be worth a watch as well as A&M @ LSU. mostly i am just focused on next weekend, IRON BOWL !!!
Brooke! OKC?
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:wink:
Brooke, you should be cheering so hard right now for oks you don't even know...you need Baylor to lose!!!!!
Y'all got any disco ball back there?
Quote from: scosby2 on Nov 23, 2013, 08:34 PM
Brooke, you should be cheering so hard right now for okc you don't even know...you need Baylor to lose!!!!!
Y'all got any disco ball back there?
Go Thunders!
Quote from: Crispy on Nov 23, 2013, 09:58 PM
Quote from: scosby2 on Nov 23, 2013, 08:34 PM
Brooke, you should be cheering so hard right now for okc you don't even know...you need Baylor to lose!!!!!
Y'all got any disco ball back there?
Go Thunders!
You bastard
Y'all got any disco ball back there?
Quote from: scosby2 on Nov 23, 2013, 11:06 PM
Quote from: Crispy on Nov 23, 2013, 09:58 PM
Quote from: scosby2 on Nov 23, 2013, 08:34 PM
Brooke, you should be cheering so hard right now for okc you don't even know...you need Baylor to lose!!!!!
Y'all got any disco ball back there?
Go Thunders!
You bastard
:grin: :grin: :grin:
oh yeah .. OKS, that's what I meant.
so, baylor lost and AP polls have Auburn in at #4. not that it means anything, but goddamn am i excited. today i made the decision to go balls deep and watch next week's game at the NYC Auburn alumni bar. i went there once for the 2010 SEC championship and it.was.crazy. there was a pitiful little tree out front barely taller than me and they still rolled it.
Auburn messed up by not giving the Iron Bowl a 7pm kickoff time. A night game in Jordan Hare would make it much more difficult on Alabama considering Auburn's momentum and what's at stake here. Oh look, it's early afternoon, how intimidating. I hope for an upset here, but I'll take the Crimson Tide by 13 :embarrassed:
Quote from: Mahgeetah34 on Nov 24, 2013, 09:31 PM
Auburn messed up by not giving the Iron Bowl a 7pm kickoff time. A night game in Jordan Hare would make it much more difficult on Alabama considering Auburn's momentum and what's at stake here. Oh look, it's early afternoon, how intimidating. I hope for an upset here, but I'll take the Crimson Tide by 13 :embarrassed:
Auburn didn't screw that up...CBS calls the shots.
CBS didn't want to interfere with the #1 SEC game of the day in prime time......MU vs TA&M :smiley:
So the networks (ABC,ESPN,CBS) all decide which time they want to air the games aka the kickoff time also? How exactly does that work? This still works better for alabama because even though rivarlies and big games are tough anyways, a nighttime environment in Jordan Hare would be far far more difficult.
Also, I dont feel AJ deserves heisman. Sure he wins alot, but his teams are/were loaded with an insane amount of talent. What he does stats wise is good, but not anything crazy. With that said, Free Jameis!!!
I went to the Stanford/Washington game earlier this year and the game time was listed as TBD. Then about 2 weeks out they finally announced the game time as 7 pm PST. Turns out ESPN wanted that game as their late game since UW had only 1 loss at the time and Stanford was undefeated. Since it was a late affair, I had to miss a show at the Sweetwater that I wanted to go to, but it was a sick fuckin game.
Go War Tigeaglers!
(http://www.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=356232&stc=1&d=1209228660)
YES YES YESSSSS :grin: :grin: :thumbsup:!!!! Well what do you know, I got my wish. The entire second half was a night game. Daytime Bama scores 21on Auburn. At night, only 7!!!! What a lovely night this is!!!!
you guys ? :cheesy: :cheesy: what a game!!!!! we fought for every yard and played a damn fine game. we deserved to win and i'm continually tired of everyone saying (since the GA game) that we are just lucky. that poor Bama kicker having a bad night and having a short kick was luck, but there's a 4 full quarters of well-played football in front of that. also, the fact that Bama didn't score in their first or second possession (i need to find a breakdown of the entire game) was pretty major to me. at the end of the game, i couldn't even begin to think about what us winning means for the rest of the season, i was too focused on the fact that someone took Bama down and it was us. War Eagle !!!!
so for this weekend's game, i have a big problem. my bossman's 50th birthday fancy dinner party is saturday night at 7pm; the game starts at 4pm. ugh! what am i gonna do?! i thought about backing out of going, but i don't think i can do that.
sooooo, thoughts on BCS title game? (http://insider.espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10067225/should-sec-champion-jump-ohio-state-bcs-standings-college-football)
p.s. if you haven't seen the last play with audio from the radio call, watch it! it might even make you teary-eyed. video is at the bottom of this page. (http://www.auburntigers.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/113013aaf.html)
and for further iron bowl entertainment, here is a video montage of auburn fans reacting to that play. it's hilarious (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7wHcqHc9-g#ws)
this article (http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/florida-state-ohio-state-are-on-track-for-bcs-title-game-but-only-one-of-them-deserves-it/2013/12/01/730e9d74-5acd-11e3-a49b-90a0e156254b_story.html) is conjuring up memories of 2004. i'm gonna go ahead and duck the rocks that will be thrown my way :grin:
congrats to Auburn but you stillhave to play Missouri right ?? Dont start polishing the crown just yet...Also, I dont think FSU will be quite the pushover you think they will be. Georgia had a really crappy team this year and you guys needed a last second MIRACLE to win.. I would like to see a SEC team win it all again but I'm just not as confident in the Wah-Eagles as you are... :beer:good luck
Fear the Mizzou D Line Brooke. Fear it. Hopefully one of us gets a shot at FSU. :beer: Go Spartans. (Sorry Christine)
(http://media.columbiamissourian.com/multimedia/2013/11/30/media/113013_MUvsTAMU_Q2_JB_152__t_w300_h600.jpg)
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Also fear drunk Mizzou fan:
Beginning of night:
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End of Game:
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Almost Morning:
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I hate to say it but I think if Ohio State has a good game against Michigan State, there will be no SEC team in the National Championship game.
Quote from: BH on Dec 03, 2013, 03:25 PM
Fear the Mizzou D Line Brooke. Fear it. Hopefully one of us gets a shot at FSU. :beer: Go Spartans. (Sorry Christine)
(http://media.columbiamissourian.com/multimedia/2013/11/30/media/113013_MUvsTAMU_Q2_JB_152__t_w300_h600.jpg)
no problem...i remember a few years ago when MSU ruined our perfect season...very nervous
Quote from: davymac on Dec 03, 2013, 07:24 PM
I hate to say it but I think if Ohio State has a good game against Michigan State, there will be no SEC team in the National Championship game.
Absolutely. I think I was still just a little hopped up from the game on Monday morning :grin: i'm beyond thrilled with our season as they have met & far exceeded my expectations (I mean, just look at last year .. night & day). I'm hoping for a great game on Saturday that will hopefully send us to the Sugar Bowl at the very least. If that's the case, I'll still be in Alabama for the holidays and I'll get to watch the game with my people ... I have to watch most games up here by myself, which sucks.
So this Saturday I have two big games .. Auburn/Mizzou and OSU/MSU. Of course I have a dinner party for my bossman's 50th smack dab in the middle of these games, ugh!!! I'm gonna try to find a bar right by the restaurant so I can watch as much as I can before the dinner. I'll probably be out of pocket 7pm - 10/11pm .. missing the end of Auburn and most of OSU.
Woohoo, BH, AWESOME! There could be a bit of that in Stillwater this Saturday if things go right...except it's going to be FREEZING, and game starts at 11 AM, for fuck's sake.
And brooke, I'm glad to hear you're excited for Bedlam too! But we're playing OU, not MSU. :wink:
That Auburn-Bama game was unreal. I was pissed that I had to work, and I missed most of the first half, but I made it a point to tell work to F off and sat down and basically watched the entire 2nd half. So many clutch plays, big plays, big stops, changes in momentum. I thought Bama had it after they stopped Auburn on a 4th & 1 I believe with a few minutes left, but not so fast!
What makes me most happy about that game is that the Bammers will finally not be playing in the championship game. It'll be interesting to see what happens this weekend. I wouldnt be surprised at all if MSU beats Ohio St. The SEC game is basically a pick em as the 2.5 spread would indicate. I havent really seen Mizzou this year so cant really comment on them (nice pic timeline BH :beer:)
I honestly dont think anyone is stopping FSU, assuming Jameis isnt suspended. Well, I think Bama could have, however I dont see Auburn, Ohio St, or Mizzou beating them. But thats why they play the game!!!
super duper stoked for today's games .. WAR EAGLE !!!!!
Rootin' hard for your MIZZOU BH
Wow.
wow wow wow WOW !!!! i'm experiencing some serious after glow. i love everyone and everything!
WAR EAGLE !!!!!!!!!!
OK soooo I guess don't fear the MU defense. :embarrassed:
I swear they were good right up to game time.
Yeah the SEC title game didn't show any signs of defense being played. Oh how times have changed.
The way Auburn ripped thru Mizzou I probably give them a better chance of beating FSU than I would have a week ago, but every starter for FSU is supposedly a NFL prospect and Ive heard it called the most loaded team since 2001 Miami so Im still having a hard time seeing the Noles lose with a month of preparation.
What a weird game MSU-Ohio St was. Sparty goes up 17-0 and OSU cant do anything on offense, then Braxton looked unstoppable and got them up 24-17 with MSU doing next to nothing on offense, and then when it looked like MSU had no answer for Miller, he cant do anything and MSU scores 17 straight to win 34-24. When OSU made their comeback/run/took the lead, I thought no way they were losing that game. Im glad they did though! :grin:
I've wanted the SEC streak to end for awhile - and yet, I find myself drawn to rooting for Auburn this year. Maybe I just love the underdog.
Quote from: MOWJO8185 on Dec 11, 2013, 05:17 PM
I've wanted the SEC streak to end for awhile - and yet, I find myself drawn to rooting for Auburn this year. Maybe I just love the underdog.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: it is an exciting season / good story .. even for non-fans.
I love the Onion. :grin:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/most-anticipated-bowl-games,34826/ (http://www.theonion.com/articles/most-anticipated-bowl-games,34826/)
Quote from: Mr. White on Dec 29, 2013, 04:43 PM
Louisville kicked Miami's ass 36 to 9 last night in their second of back-to-back bowl victories (last year over #4 Florida). Louisville should have played someone a little better.
They didn't play anyone all year; why start now?
Quote from: Mr. White on Dec 30, 2013, 11:51 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Dec 30, 2013, 11:18 AM
Quote from: Mr. White on Dec 29, 2013, 04:43 PM
Louisville kicked Miami's ass 36 to 9 last night in their second of back-to-back bowl victories (last year over #4 Florida). Louisville should have played someone a little better.
They didn't play anyone all year; why start now?
I guess because they were still ranked #18 in the nation before the game on Saturday, their QB is probably the best in the nation right now and is predicted by some to go #1 in the NFL draft, and why not let them show what kind of talent they have against another top ranked team (like they did when they crushed #4 Florida last year in the Sugar Bowl), that's why.
I mean, Hell! They fucked Florida up pretty bad last year, and they destroyed bullshit Miami this year. So, I guess it is "a given" that the people in charge of assigning teams that will go up against each other in these bowl games don't really know what the fuck they are doing. Plus, the dumb-ass book-makers in Las Vegas (or where ever those "degenerate gamblers" hang out) got it completely wrong. They predicted a 3 point win for Miami over Louisville. Hell, Louisville could have easily been in the 40's instead of just 36 against Miami (who were just lucky to have gotten their one touchdown). They took a knee at the end when they were about to score another touchdown.
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Your opponent's were a combined 54-80 and the only ranked team you played all year you lost to (UCF). Winning a bowl game doesn't mean jack when you don't play anyone all year, IMO.
Louisville would be lucky to have a winning record in the SEC.
Play somebody.
Quote from: Mr. White on Dec 31, 2013, 01:46 AM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Dec 31, 2013, 12:56 AM
Quote from: Mr. White on Dec 30, 2013, 11:51 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Dec 30, 2013, 11:18 AM
Quote from: Mr. White on Dec 29, 2013, 04:43 PM
Louisville kicked Miami's ass 36 to 9 last night in their second of back-to-back bowl victories (last year over #4 Florida). Louisville should have played someone a little better.
They didn't play anyone all year; why start now?
I guess because they were still ranked #18 in the nation before the game on Saturday, their QB is probably the best in the nation right now and is predicted by some to go #1 in the NFL draft, and why not let them show what kind of talent they have against another top ranked team (like they did when they crushed #4 Florida last year in the Sugar Bowl), that's why.
I mean, Hell! They fucked Florida up pretty bad last year, and they destroyed bullshit Miami this year. So, I guess it is "a given" that the people in charge of assigning teams that will go up against each other in these bowl games don't really know what the fuck they are doing. Plus, the dumb-ass book-makers in Las Vegas (or where ever those "degenerate gamblers" hang out) got it completely wrong. They predicted a 3 point win for Miami over Louisville. Hell, Louisville could have easily been in the 40's instead of just 36 against Miami (who were just lucky to have gotten their one touchdown). They took a knee at the end when they were about to score another touchdown.
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Your opponent's were a combined 54-80 and the only ranked team you played all year you lost to (UCF). Winning a bowl game doesn't mean jack when you don't play anyone all year, IMO.
Louisville would be lucky to have a winning record in the SEC.
Play somebody.
I'm not sure I understand your logic on this one. On the one hand, you say "Winning a bowl game doesn't mean jack when you don't play anyone all year, IMO", but you also say, "Play somebody" and that "Louisville would be lucky to have a winning record in the SEC".
I am pretty sure Florida is in the SEC, and yes, it was only one game (one bowl game), but isn't that one of the major measuring devices college football uses...the end of the year bowl games...?...?...?
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Yes, Louisville did lose one game this year to the only top 25 team we played (UCF), but does that mean we couldn't possibly win against any other top 25 teams (on any given Saturday)? All I was saying was to give the team a chance. By allowing us to play another top 25 team in the end of the year bowl games would have only been fair (and it would have done something to prove to those who don't think we have a chance that we do).
But you are probably right. The SEC is the "end-all" and the "be-all" when it comes to college football. The rest of the teams should just change their majors to journalism or something a little less competitive. After all, unless you have been tried in the crucible that is the SEC, you ain't shit!
Oh, did I mention we kicked SEC powerhouse Florida's ass last year with basically the same lineup that we played with this year (and after doing some reading, they were actually #3 in the nation at the time instead of #4 like I had posted earlier). But, like you said, "Winning a bowl game doesn't mean jack..." So, take that all you bowl hopefuls who don't happen to be in the anointed conferences. If you happen to win, it doesn't mean jack! The other team(s) were better than your best. They have proven it by playing harder teams (except for on the one day they may have gotten upset). I'm talking to you Texas Tech! Your victory just now over #14 Arizona State doesn't mean jack! You might as well just melt down that bullshit trophy and cash it in at the recycling plant, so you can buy yourselves a ticket to see an SEC game!
Louisville doesn't play anyone. You're hanging your hat on not playing anyone all year and upsetting a better team in a bowl game. Congratulations. You're STILL talking about the Sugar Bowl? :grin: SEC teams don't talk about a bowl win THE NEXT YEAR b/c they are playing top 20 opponents 5-6x a year! If Louisville went undefeated they wouldn't be ahead of a 1 or 2 loss SEC team for the BCS title. I am not making this up, it's just a fact. Louisville is in a suck ass conference and play suck ass out of conference teams. Period. I know it, the pollsters know it, you deny it. Your SOS is 71st in the nation! Again, put Auburn, Alabama, Texas A & M, Missouri and LSU on your schedule THEN talk. In the meantime, stick to basketball.
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Louisville kicked Miami's ass 36 to 9 last night in their second of back-to-back bowl victories (last year over #4 Florida). Louisville should have played someone a little better.
They didn't play anyone all year; why start now?
I guess because they were still ranked #18 in the nation before the game on Saturday, their QB is probably the best in the nation right now and is predicted by some to go #1 in the NFL draft, and why not let them show what kind of talent they have against another top ranked team (like they did when they crushed #4 Florida last year in the Sugar Bowl), that's why.
I mean, Hell! They fucked Florida up pretty bad last year, and they destroyed bullshit Miami this year. So, I guess it is "a given" that the people in charge of assigning teams that will go up against each other in these bowl games don't really know what the fuck they are doing. Plus, the dumb-ass book-makers in Las Vegas (or where ever those "degenerate gamblers" hang out) got it completely wrong. They predicted a 3 point win for Miami over Louisville. Hell, Louisville could have easily been in the 40's instead of just 36 against Miami (who were just lucky to have gotten their one touchdown). They took a knee at the end when they were about to score another touchdown.
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Your opponent's were a combined 54-80 and the only ranked team you played all year you lost to (UCF). Winning a bowl game doesn't mean jack when you don't play anyone all year, IMO.
Louisville would be lucky to have a winning record in the SEC.
Play somebody.
I'm not sure I understand your logic on this one. On the one hand, you say "Winning a bowl game doesn't mean jack when you don't play anyone all year, IMO", but you also say, "Play somebody" and that "Louisville would be lucky to have a winning record in the SEC".
I am pretty sure Florida is in the SEC, and yes, it was only one game (one bowl game), but isn't that one of the major measuring devices college football uses...the end of the year bowl games...?...?...?
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Yes, Louisville did lose one game this year to the only top 25 team we played (UCF), but does that mean we couldn't possibly win against any other top 25 teams (on any given Saturday)? All I was saying was to give the team a chance. By allowing us to play another top 25 team in the end of the year bowl games would have only been fair (and it would have done something to prove to those who don't think we have a chance that we do).
But you are probably right. The SEC is the "end-all" and the "be-all" when it comes to college football. The rest of the teams should just change their majors to journalism or something a little less competitive. After all, unless you have been tried in the crucible that is the SEC, you ain't shit!
Oh, did I mention we kicked SEC powerhouse Florida's ass last year with basically the same lineup that we played with this year (and after doing some reading, they were actually #3 in the nation at the time instead of #4 like I had posted earlier). But, like you said, "Winning a bowl game doesn't mean jack..." So, take that all you bowl hopefuls who don't happen to be in the anointed conferences. If you happen to win, it doesn't mean jack! The other team(s) were better than your best. They have proven it by playing harder teams (except for on the one day they may have gotten upset). I'm talking to you Texas Tech! Your victory just now over #14 Arizona State doesn't mean jack! You might as well just melt down that bullshit trophy and cash it in at the recycling plant, so you can buy yourselves a ticket to see an SEC game!
Louisville doesn't play anyone. You're hanging your hat on not playing anyone all year and upsetting a better team in a bowl game. Congratulations. You're STILL talking about the Sugar Bowl? :grin: SEC teams don't talk about a bowl win THE NEXT YEAR b/c they are playing top 20 opponents 5-6x a year! If Louisville went undefeated they wouldn't be ahead of a 1 or 2 loss SEC team for the BCS title. I am not making this up, it's just a fact. Louisville is in a suck ass conference and play suck ass out of conference teams. Period. I know it, the pollsters know it, you deny it. Your SOS is 71st in the nation! Again, put Auburn, Alabama, Texas A & M, Missouri and LSU on your schedule THEN talk. In the meantime, stick to basketball.
No. Look, man. I totally agree with you now! Just re-read the ending of my last post on this, and you will see that I believe what you believe, and that is...All college football teams in The United States of America that do not play in the SEC suck dick!
Thank you. :cool:
and for the record, Florida State is better than Auburn.
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Louisville kicked Miami's ass 36 to 9 last night in their second of back-to-back bowl victories (last year over #4 Florida). Louisville should have played someone a little better.
They didn't play anyone all year; why start now?
I guess because they were still ranked #18 in the nation before the game on Saturday, their QB is probably the best in the nation right now and is predicted by some to go #1 in the NFL draft, and why not let them show what kind of talent they have against another top ranked team (like they did when they crushed #4 Florida last year in the Sugar Bowl), that's why.
I mean, Hell! They messed Florida up pretty bad last year, and they destroyed Miami this year. So, I guess it is "a given" that the people in charge of assigning teams that will go up against each other in these bowl games don't really know what in the world they are doing. Plus, the dumb-ass book-makers in Las Vegas (or where ever those "degenerate gamblers" hang out) got it completely wrong. They predicted a 3 point win for Miami over Louisville. Louisville could have easily been in the 40's instead of just 36 against Miami (who were just lucky to have gotten their one touchdown). They took a knee at the end when they were about to score another touchdown.
Hey I'm one of those degenerate gamblers and I hang out a lot on my couch. I'm sure you know this but Vegas' goal is not to be accurate but to get 50/50 play on both sides unless they know they got the public beat with a cute line. I love Bridgewater. He actually reminds me most in skill set to a poor man's Aaron Rodgers, a great thing! But with your schedule this year, it's silly to make an argument for a better bowl. I don't think anyone would question that Miami was not a good team this year and vastly over performed early in the season. Really looking forward to see how the QB rankings shake out closer to draft time. I'm now officially sold on Manziel as a viable NFL prospect and Bortles is looking solid against Baylor now on a big stage.
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Coach Strong with the Russell Athletic Bowl trophy
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I think you meant to say Texas coach, Charlie Strong.
So pumped for tonights game. Just hoping for a great game above all else.
I also still shocked OU beat Bama. I couldnt watch the whole game because of work, but once Bama started the 2nd half by cutting it to a 31-24 deficit, I figured here we go again and Bama wouldve rolled in the 2nd half. Kudos to OU.
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I think you meant to say Texas coach, Charlie Strong.
Steers and Queers come from Texas (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyFSdj1J5Vw#)
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Ridiculously stoked for tonight's game and also hoping for a great game ... and an Auburn win, of course. me and a couple alabama native / auburn fans are going to watch at one of the auburn bars here in the city. i watched the iron bowl there and what fun it was, everyone was decked out in their AU gear, exchanged War Eagle's, high fives were flying, and everyone asking what part of 'Bama we were from.
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Ridiculously stoked for tonight's game and also hoping for a great game ... and an Auburn win, of course. me and a couple alabama native / auburn fans are going to watch at one of the auburn bars here in the city. i watched the iron bowl there and what fun it was, everyone was decked out in their AU gear, exchanged War Eagle's, high fives were flying, and everyone asking what part of 'Bama we were from.
Good luck tonight Brooke! I'd be going back to that same bar tonight too. Hell, I'd probably wear the same clothes, and sit in the same spot! :wink: I'm down in Florida, and surrounded by mostly Gator fans, but there is a decent amount of Noles fans here too,so it should be pretty exciting watching the game at one of the local bars. Enjoy, and I hope Auburn still has some magic left. :beer:
Looking forward to the game tonight, no vested interest, but my brother in law is an AU alum. I still think I would lay the 10 points and take FSU though, they have been the most consistent team on both sides of the ball all year and their closest game was 2 touchdowns, reminicent of the 1995 Huskers who I always considered the best team ever with 01 UM a close second. Hopefully it'll be closer, but we shall see.
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Looking forward to the game tonight, no vested interest, but my brother in law is an AU alum. I still think I would lay the 10 points and take FSU though, they have been the most consistent team on both sides of the ball all year and their closest game was 2 touchdowns, reminicent of the 1995 Huskers who I always considered the best team ever with 01 UM a close second. Hopefully it'll be closer, but we shall see.
Agreed, that FSU team is stacked, but their schedule this year was pretty damn easy. There is a reason why they were winning every game by 14+ pts.
They havent faced a team in the top 50 in rushing all year. Auburn is #1. I have no clue what to expect, because FSU can score quick and if they get a big lead, its not like AU can just run the ball all day.
Final Conference Bowl Game Conference Rankings*
Record Points
1.SEC 7-3 155
2.Pac12 6-3 114
3.ACC 5-6 101
4.Big12 3-3 77
5.AAC 2-3 56
6.Big10 2-5 54
7.MTW 3-3 34
8.Ind 2-1 18
9.CUSA 3-3 15
10.Sun 2-0 6
11.MAC 0-5 0
*Points based on weighted bowl game victories. 35 points for national championship, 34 for next biggest bowl, 33, 32, etc.