First off, I sadly have to congratulate the Super Bowl Champoin Green Bay Packers. Considering all the injuries they endured, they had a hell of a year to win it all.
I wasnt even all that interested in the draft this year because I was too pissed about the lockout, but once this week came around I got excited and that judge ending the lockout got me even more pumped.
Gotta say last night was a pretty weird draft, but it was still all kinds of fun. I think this year's QB class is pretty overrated, and no way should anyone besides Newton and Gabbert go in round 1, let alone 4 in the Top 12, but that allowed some value to drop. Of course the top talent went early, but I thought a lot of really good players dropped into the 20's and the rich just got richer. Extremely happy the Patsies didnt take Mark Ingram. Their offense wouldve been unstoppable if they did in all liklihood (him getting drafted was certainly 1 of the better moments of last night. Cant believe ATL traded up that far (has moving up 21 picks or more even happened?!). I like Julio, but thats an awful lot. Considering how much help Cleveland needs, smart move by them IMO. When Amukamara fell all the way to 19, I was really hoping we'd trade up to get him. Great pick, biggest value of round 1 Id say
Everyone seemed to be mock drafting us to pick Aaron Williams, and considering the talent that fell, Im extremely happy they didnt take him and got Iron Head Jr. I knew they must have loved him since it took like 1 minute to make their pick, but hearing Tomlin and our GM talk about how they thought he was a Top 20 talent in the draft and a special player, I like it even more.
"Ironhead" Heyward Zest Body Wash (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPFgKa6qSGE#)
Im almost even more excited for tonight
Agreed on atlanta. They gave up a ton to move up to get a clone of Roddy White. Daquan Bowers knee must be busted because I love his skills! I thought the Vikings taking Ponder at 12 was preposterous, particularly because they could easily have gotten him later had they been able to trade down. I like Andy Dalton a lot and my buddy and I were having a laugh about Locker last night because whether he pans out or not, we love him. This qb class is overrated and I don't see Newton panning out as #1 worthy at all unless Carolina gets real clever with utilizing those two backs with him. I love Gabbert's release but his numbers were uninspiring in a spread offense.
I loved it when the Wisconsin DE went off the board. We knew that the 1st white guy would be the 1st 'high motor guy" to go.
I was hoping that Leshoure and Wilson might make it off the board to make 3 llini in the 1st round.
Jake Locker baby! Gotta love a qb with accuracy issues! Doesn't matter cuz he's Jake Locker!
Yeah, Bowers knee must be popsicle sticks and bubblegum because I just dont see how it can be that bad. I kind of wanted the Steelers to take a flier on him, but they love Heyward apparently and obviously he's a safer pick. How do you like your picks? Think Carimi was a big steal, wouldve loved him to fall to us. Dont know much about Wilkerson outside of him supposed to go in the 1st but he sounds a little risky.
Yeah, I like Locker, but out of the 7 QBs that are/were supposed to go in the first 2 rounds, he looks like the worst QB to me yet he goes 8th. Newton seems like too much of a wildcard to really project, so Gabbert is probably the best but I almost think Mallett and Kaepernick are the best QBs of the bunch. Getting them in the 2nd def makes me think either is a smarter pick than these average QBs that went Top 12
Quote from: capt. scotty on Apr 29, 2011, 03:23 PM
First off, I sadly have to congratulate the Super Bowl Champoin Green Bay Packers.
That was like 3 months ago :-\
I think Reggie is officially gone for the Saints :)
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Apr 29, 2011, 04:46 PM
Quote from: capt. scotty on Apr 29, 2011, 03:23 PM
First off, I sadly have to congratulate the Super Bowl Champoin Green Bay Packers.
That was like 3 months ago :-\
I think Reggie is officially gone for the Saints :)
Its been fun New Orleans! ;D
..I wouldnt mind signing him as a backup for like 2yrs $5mill if we dont draft a decent RB in the mid rounds, but Im sure someone will give him more loot than that
I guess Ray Ray's planning on going back to his night job of stabbing people ;D
Inspired linebacker Ray Lewis discusses lockout, impact on crime (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNkvc40c3jk#ws)
I have to say, if the NFL wanted to push me further away from their game and closer to CFB, this bullshit lockout surrounding millionaire players arguing with billionaire owners over who's making more money has pretty much squashed my interest in their freaking sport altogether! >:(
And it looks like the NBA will be joining them... ::)
Quote from: capt. scotty on May 23, 2011, 02:50 PM
I guess Ray Ray's planning on going back to his night job of stabbing people ;D
Inspired linebacker Ray Lewis discusses lockout, impact on crime (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNkvc40c3jk#ws)
I heard this the other day. Ray's got to get into acting at some point, he's just too good! ;D
"Walkin' the streets...the way
I walk the streets..."
"Watch how much Evil...which we call The Crime..."
He does have a point though. I'm sure there'll be a spike in unemployed NFL player arrests if this thing doesn't get settled in the next few months! ;D
I'm sitting at the anchor steam bar at sfo right next to Joe Montana. I'm starstruck.
Quote from: walterfredo on May 30, 2011, 07:20 PM
I'm sitting at the anchor steam bar at sfo right next to Joe Montana. I'm starstruck.
How are his calf muscles? ;D
That's pretty cool!
Football Cops Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-znHzHafMlQ#ws)
Quote from: capt. scotty on Jun 25, 2011, 12:42 PM
Football Cops Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-znHzHafMlQ#ws)
holy shit man, that was funny.. shines a bright light on a real dark subject of conversation right now
Saints 2nd Line cont... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNKXE9B9nt8#ws)
(http://www.youdontknowjersey.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/da_bears011.gif)
so scotty, whose side are you on? James Harrison's or the World's?
JAMES HARRISON!!!!!!
I could do without the Roethlisberger comments but him saying he wouldn't piss on Goodell if he were on fire made me laugh might have to be my new forum sig. I'm sure a lot of distraught fans feel the same way about Goodell (and DeMaurice Smith for that matter) due to current circumstances.
Go Steelers!
I have no idea what to think of the Eagles at this point. Sure, there will most likely be a flurry of activity once the lockout ends. But there are a bunch of holes on the roster at this point. The birds need a corner, DE, DT & possibly a LB. It wouldn't hurt to get 1 more OL stud either. I wonder if trading Kolb could address all these issues ::)
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jul 13, 2011, 04:54 PM
so scotty, whose side are you on? James Harrison's or the World's?
I havent read the actual article, just saw the highlights I guess, and Im split. The comments about Roeth and Mendy are unwarranted, but apparently Harrison (aka Silverback) has talked to them and theyre all good. His statements about both of them struck me as odd, and if he clarified it with each of them, okay, but how do you say something even close to that about your teamates?
His comments about Goodell I have no problem with. He's a UFA who didnt make NFL money til his 30's, and now he's getting penalized for it. I wont argue he's made hits that warrant fining, but seeiing them talk about his fines today and that he got 25k for just tackling Brees is absurd.
Im just hoping they figure this bullshit out soon
Quote from: capt. scotty on Jul 13, 2011, 10:56 PM
His comments about Goodell I have no problem with. He's a UFA who didnt make NFL money til his 30's, and now he's getting penalized for it. I wont argue he's made hits that warrant fining, but seeiing them talk about his fines today and that he got 25k for just tackling Brees is absurd.
He's a great football player but someone needs to reign him in. I think he hates playing 3rd fiddle to Ben and Troy P (and maybe even Hines Ward) so in his 3rd grade mind he's looking for press. Ray Lewis killed 27 people in 4 states but he eventually redeemed himself. Maybe Harrison can do the same.
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what did you say ? did you even speak.....wow Cool Joe.....he was the best...last 2 minutes in a game ....I wanted Montana to have the ball....wow
I would just like to say that I'm really excited about Cleveland for the first time in a few years (like 34)...
Quote from: walterfredo on May 30, 2011, 07:20 PM
I'm sitting at the anchor steam bar at sfo right next to Joe Montana. I'm starstruck.
I once ate noodles next to Ronnie Lott in the SF airport. I'm not even a Niners fan and I was all googly-eyed.
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Quote from: walterfredo on May 30, 2011, 07:20 PM
I'm sitting at the anchor steam bar at sfo right next to Joe Montana. I'm starstruck.
I once ate noodles next to Ronnie Lott in the SF airport. I'm not even a Niners fan and I was all googly-eyed.
I sat next to Eddie George at a coffee house in Nashville. He hit on a girl sitting in a booth by herself and then sat back down; her boyfriend showed up 5 minutes later and those 2 proceeded to talk and the whole time she was stealing glances at Eddie sitting next to me. Or was she looking at me? ;)
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Quote from: walterfredo on May 30, 2011, 07:20 PM
I'm sitting at the anchor steam bar at sfo right next to Joe Montana. I'm starstruck.
I once ate noodles next to Ronnie Lott in the SF airport. I'm not even a Niners fan and I was all googly-eyed.
I sat next to Eddie George at a coffee house in Nashville. He hit on a girl sitting in a booth by herself and then sat back down; her boyfriend showed up 5 minutes later and those 2 proceeded to talk and the whole time she was stealing glances at Eddie sitting next to me. Or was she looking at me? ;)
I saw Terrell Owens while I was at PT on Monday. He was filiming his reality show while doing his PT. That's all.
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jul 15, 2011, 09:22 AM
Quote from: capt. scotty on Jul 13, 2011, 10:56 PM
His comments about Goodell I have no problem with. He's a UFA who didnt make NFL money til his 30's, and now he's getting penalized for it. I wont argue he's made hits that warrant fining, but seeiing them talk about his fines today and that he got 25k for just tackling Brees is absurd.
He's a great football player but someone needs to reign him in. I think he hates playing 3rd fiddle to Ben and Troy P (and maybe even Hines Ward) so in his 3rd grade mind he's looking for press. Ray Lewis killed 27 people in 4 states but he eventually redeemed himself. Maybe Harrison can do the same.
I dont think its about being 3rd fiddle, I think its he's a great player now and he can run his mouth. Go back to Joey Porter, or Greg Lloyd, he's the newest of our LB's that run their mouth and are the public voice of the team.
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Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jul 15, 2011, 09:22 AM
Quote from: capt. scotty on Jul 13, 2011, 10:56 PM
His comments about Goodell I have no problem with. He's a UFA who didnt make NFL money til his 30's, and now he's getting penalized for it. I wont argue he's made hits that warrant fining, but seeiing them talk about his fines today and that he got 25k for just tackling Brees is absurd.
He's a great football player but someone needs to reign him in. I think he hates playing 3rd fiddle to Ben and Troy P (and maybe even Hines Ward) so in his 3rd grade mind he's looking for press. Ray Lewis killed 27 people in 4 states but he eventually redeemed himself. Maybe Harrison can do the same.
I dont think its about being 3rd fiddle, I think its he's a great player now and he can run his mouth. Go back to Joey Porter, or Greg Lloyd, he's the newest of our LB's that run their mouth and are the public voice of the team.
I suggest you go back to the Steel Curtain LB Jack Lambert if you want some sort of a reference to a champion mentality. He let his playing do the talking. You really want the public voice of your team dissing your QB and RB? Pretty stupid.
Quote from: Penny Lane on Jul 15, 2011, 09:57 AM
I would just like to say that I'm really excited about Cleveland for the first time in a few years (like 34)...
;D
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jul 15, 2011, 10:15 AM
Quote from: Crispy on Jul 15, 2011, 10:10 AM
Quote from: walterfredo on May 30, 2011, 07:20 PM
I'm sitting at the anchor steam bar at sfo right next to Joe Montana. I'm starstruck.
I once ate noodles next to Ronnie Lott in the SF airport. I'm not even a Niners fan and I was all googly-eyed.
I sat next to Eddie George at a coffee house in Nashville. He hit on a girl sitting in a booth by herself and then sat back down; her boyfriend showed up 5 minutes later and those 2 proceeded to talk and the whole time she was stealing glances at Eddie sitting next to me. Or was she looking at me? ;)
Speaking of 9ers...
I played football/baseball with Patrick Willis from little league baseball to high school baseball/football.. he's the same age as me and grew up about 10 miles down the road from my hometown in TN.. i wasn't very good at football but i'll never forget trying to hit that guy back, even running full speed and hitting him square on it hurt like hell.. and he played just about every key position for a small town rival school with little to no talent.. but i swear you could feel that guy's presence and you always knew where he was on the field
personally he's probably one of the nicest, humblest guys i've ever known.. especially after the cards he's been dealt in life.. athletics were always his escape from the reality of a shitty family upbringing..
The Patrick Willis Story (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN22zvvxAJ0#)
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Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jul 15, 2011, 10:15 AM
Quote from: Crispy on Jul 15, 2011, 10:10 AM
Quote from: walterfredo on May 30, 2011, 07:20 PM
I'm sitting at the anchor steam bar at sfo right next to Joe Montana. I'm starstruck.
I once ate noodles next to Ronnie Lott in the SF airport. I'm not even a Niners fan and I was all googly-eyed.
I sat next to Eddie George at a coffee house in Nashville. He hit on a girl sitting in a booth by herself and then sat back down; her boyfriend showed up 5 minutes later and those 2 proceeded to talk and the whole time she was stealing glances at Eddie sitting next to me. Or was she looking at me? ;)
Speaking of 9ers...
I played football/baseball with Patrick Willis from little league baseball to high school baseball/football.. he's the same age as me and grew up about 10 miles down the road from my hometown in TN.. i wasn't very good at football but i'll never forget trying to hit that guy back, even running full speed and hitting him square on it hurt like hell.. and he played just about every key position for a small town rival school with little to no talent.. but i swear you could feel that guy's presence and you always knew where he was on the field
personally he's probably one of the nicest, humblest guys i've ever known.. especially after the cards he's been dealt in life.. athletics were always his escape from the reality of a shitty family upbringing..
Love it. I played with Neil Walker, the current 2nd baseman of the Pirates, during travel tournaments when I was 12-14. He wasnt even the best player on the team then. Amazing he's 1 of the best players for a professional baseball team right now.
Also, thats sick you played with Patrick Willis :bath:
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Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jul 15, 2011, 09:22 AM
Quote from: capt. scotty on Jul 13, 2011, 10:56 PM
His comments about Goodell I have no problem with. He's a UFA who didnt make NFL money til his 30's, and now he's getting penalized for it. I wont argue he's made hits that warrant fining, but seeiing them talk about his fines today and that he got 25k for just tackling Brees is absurd.
He's a great football player but someone needs to reign him in. I think he hates playing 3rd fiddle to Ben and Troy P (and maybe even Hines Ward) so in his 3rd grade mind he's looking for press. Ray Lewis killed 27 people in 4 states but he eventually redeemed himself. Maybe Harrison can do the same.
I dont think its about being 3rd fiddle, I think its he's a great player now and he can run his mouth. Go back to Joey Porter, or Greg Lloyd, he's the newest of our LB's that run their mouth and are the public voice of the team.
I suggest you go back to the Steel Curtain LB Jack Lambert if you want some sort of a reference to a champion mentality. He let his playing do the talking. You really want the public voice of your team dissing your QB and RB? Pretty stupid.
(http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/233/679/JackLambert_display_image.jpg?1274539964)
One of my favorite players of all time, besides Chuck Bednarik & Brian Dawkins
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Quote from: capt. scotty on Jul 15, 2011, 06:52 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jul 15, 2011, 09:22 AM
Quote from: capt. scotty on Jul 13, 2011, 10:56 PM
His comments about Goodell I have no problem with. He's a UFA who didnt make NFL money til his 30's, and now he's getting penalized for it. I wont argue he's made hits that warrant fining, but seeiing them talk about his fines today and that he got 25k for just tackling Brees is absurd.
He's a great football player but someone needs to reign him in. I think he hates playing 3rd fiddle to Ben and Troy P (and maybe even Hines Ward) so in his 3rd grade mind he's looking for press. Ray Lewis killed 27 people in 4 states but he eventually redeemed himself. Maybe Harrison can do the same.
I dont think its about being 3rd fiddle, I think its he's a great player now and he can run his mouth. Go back to Joey Porter, or Greg Lloyd, he's the newest of our LB's that run their mouth and are the public voice of the team.
I suggest you go back to the Steel Curtain LB Jack Lambert if you want some sort of a reference to a champion mentality. He let his playing do the talking. You really want the public voice of your team dissing your QB and RB? Pretty stupid.
Pretty sure I said I dont have a problem with his Goodell quotes, not his quotes about teammates, guy. Never heard of this John Lambert, I'll have to do some research.
Does anyone, besides Britney, have Kenny Britt on their fantasy team?
Britney Spears brings Kenny Britt on stage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQIrceiYJ7g#)
Very sad to see Randy Moss retire, I think he has a lot left in the tank but wants a team to need/appreciate him, and it makes me feel old at the same time. I was a huge baseball fan growing up, but around '96 or '97 I really started gravitating towards football when I basically realized I wasnt going pro in baseball :P. Randy Moss was always a favorite, and 1 of the first players that really made football become my favorite sport. That sounds weird since Im 26 and he's only 34, but when he entered the league I was just 13 or 14. Without a doubt in my mind, he's the most talented and electric WR to ever play the game, I dont care how many records Don Hutson might have. Hopefully he comes back this year, just not to the Jets, Pats, or Eagles.
Straight Cash Homey (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07G23zMGa4g#)
RIP Bubba Smith.
Kicking off from the 35 ain't gonna fly
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Bears-refuse-to-bend-to-new-kickoff-rule-told-b;_ylt=At3hKrw7KFTNuERmDuBqEqZDubYF?urn=nfl-wp5084 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Bears-refuse-to-bend-to-new-kickoff-rule-told-b;_ylt=At3hKrw7KFTNuERmDuBqEqZDubYF?urn=nfl-wp5084)
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Aug 15, 2011, 11:21 PM
Kicking off from the 35 ain't gonna fly
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Bears-refuse-to-bend-to-new-kickoff-rule-told-b;_ylt=At3hKrw7KFTNuERmDuBqEqZDubYF?urn=nfl-wp5084 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Bears-refuse-to-bend-to-new-kickoff-rule-told-b;_ylt=At3hKrw7KFTNuERmDuBqEqZDubYF?urn=nfl-wp5084)
Terrible rule! Was this Goodell's idea?
Probably going to catch flack for this but I'm a Patriots fan. And, even though i stole this name for my fantasy football team, it's still funny.
Wilfork for Food
I'm looking forward to this season but not for my Bengals. I always have a good outlook and positive attitude towards what they can do on the field but with our QB and two best WRs gone it's up to rookies in a shortened season to turn around an already suspect offense. Oh god, this could get real ugly.
As far as claim to fames, I sat next to Mario Urudya (former Bengal) at DUI class. No surprises there!
Quote from: aMillionDreams on Aug 16, 2011, 07:45 AM
I'm looking forward to this season but not for my Bengals. I always have a good outlook and positive attitude towards what they can do on the field but with our QB and two best WRs gone it's up to rookies in a shortened season to turn around an already suspect offense. Oh god, this could get real ugly.
As far as claim to fames, I sat next to Mario Urudya (former Bengal) at DUI class. No surprises there!
I think they might suprise you. Marvin Lewis is a hell of a head coach and can motivate young and hungry players. I think once they start triming the fat ( Tank Johnson and a few others ). I see a lot of 3-13 predictions but I bet they go .500 on the season. They are gonna catch alot of teams of guard because teams aren't expecting much from them.
GO BEARS !!!!
We need a new song , With some updated dance moves ::)
(http://www.ihavenet.com/images/NFL-2010-History-1985-Chicago-Bears-Super-Bowl-Shuffle-Gets-America-Rapping.jpg)
Dream Team my ass!! ;D
Sam the Ram is gonna lead us to the promise land! Go Rams!
Quote from: capt. scotty on Aug 18, 2011, 10:25 PM
Dream Team my ass!! ;D
pre-season, my man. pre-season. The birds never show the goods this time of year. That said, good god that was ugly :( Vick looked awful & the birds D couldn't stop a Pop Warner team last night.
Have to admit, the 'burgh looked sharp
Quote from: Jane on Aug 16, 2011, 07:45 AM
Probably going to catch flack for this but I'm a Patriots fan. And, even though i stole this name for my fantasy football team, it's still funny.
Wilfork for Food ;D
You are not alone. Be loud, be proud!
Patriots 31, Buccaneers 14
Brady showing no rust
He's dominant in first half as Patriots crush Tampa Bay (http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2011/08/19/brady_showing_no_rust/?page=full)
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Dream Team my ass!! ;D
pre-season, my man. pre-season. The birds never show the goods this time of year. That said, good god that was ugly :( Vick looked awful & the birds D couldn't stop a Pop Warner team last night.
Have to admit, the 'burgh looked sharp
Im there with you on the preseason, but it looks like the Birds will be ran on as they still have nada at linebacker. Our 2nd team offense was still moving the ball against your starters. Your starting O played the whole first half and I think got less than 100 total yards, 3 INT's, and our starting CBs Ike Taylor and Bryant McFadden didnt even play. There was a guy Ive never even heard of, Donovan Warren, out there at CB in the 1st quarter ;D Honestly, I dont think we had 10 INTs collectively all last year, so that was nice to see.
Im sure you guys will be fine, and its not like the Stillers will be slouches this year, but Id be worried if I were you, especially concerning the D. Dion Lewis did have a sweet 40yd run with 5 minutes left at least :D
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Dream Team my ass!! ;D
pre-season, my man. pre-season. The birds never show the goods this time of year. That said, good god that was ugly :( Vick looked awful & the birds D couldn't stop a Pop Warner team last night.
Have to admit, the 'burgh looked sharp
Im there with you on the preseason, but it looks like the Birds will be ran on as they still have nada at linebacker. Our 2nd team offense was still moving the ball against your starters. Your starting O played the whole first half and I think got less than 100 total yards, 3 INT's, and our starting CBs Ike Taylor and Bryant McFadden didnt even play. There was a guy Ive never even heard of, Donovan Warren, out there at CB in the 1st quarter ;D Honestly, I dont think we had 10 INTs collectively all last year, so that was nice to see.
Im sure you guys will be fine, and its not like the Stillers will be slouches this year, but Id be worried if I were you, especially concerning the D. Dion Lewis did have a sweet 40yd run with 5 minutes left at least :D
enjoy it while you can, good sir. 'cause that wasn't the same team you'll see in the regular season. Mark my words
my precious lions are eating yet another one of your delicious teams. suck it.
here ya go Ruckus, have fun
(http://www.nydailynews.com/img/2010/01/13/450x363-alg_gq_sanchez.jpg)
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Sep 08, 2011, 10:23 AM
here ya go Ruckus, have fun
(http://www.nydailynews.com/img/2010/01/13/450x363-alg_gq_sanchez.jpg)
One of my fantasy football team's is called Dirty Sanchez. I hope the Jets have a good season; them and Atlanta are my Super Bowl picks.
it's going to be another long and painful season in SF :'(. I really cannot believe they're putting the ball back in Alex Smith's hands. wtf! At least we had the 90's.
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Sep 08, 2011, 10:23 AM
here ya go Ruckus, have fun
(http://www.nydailynews.com/img/2010/01/13/450x363-alg_gq_sanchez.jpg)
Did you get lost in his eyes Tracy? Are you being unproductive at work? I'm always amazed that the other 10 Jets can gaze into his eyes every 45 seconds then somehow make it to the line of scrimmage and still remember the snap count and play, or what just happened for that matter.
Gerardo Mejía - Rico suave (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx64_N4AA04#)
I think Ive awoke each morning for the last week hoping it was thursday....the NFL is back!!!
I usually wouldnt say this, but because of my fantasy team.... Let's go Green Bay
I think the best word for this game is old folk style. That was a humdinger. I wish sunday wasnt 3 days away.
Saverio Rocca used to play in the AFL team I follow - Collingwood. There is only one player Ive seen who can kick the ball longer and thats his brother Anthony. Check this out, and keep in mind it took place in a charity match where the teams included ex-players, sports journalists and a couple of comedians. When this game took place he'd been retired for 2 years. Potential NFL punter material?
Anthony Rocca 75 Meter Goal - E.J Whitten Legends Game 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPkEuqKGDgs#ws)
I felt like I was watching a video game last night. GB's offense is filthy.
Quote from: capt. scotty on Sep 09, 2011, 07:01 PM
I felt like I was watching a video game last night. GB's offense is filthy.
The difference was the Saints 1 turnover, not GB's offense being "filthy"; The Saints had more 1st downs, more total yards, more yards per play and Brees threw for 100 more yards than Rogers. Those are just the stats.
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Sep 09, 2011, 08:24 PM
Quote from: capt. scotty on Sep 09, 2011, 07:01 PM
I felt like I was watching a video game last night. GB's offense is filthy.
The difference was the Saints 1 turnover, not GB's offense being "filthy"; The Saints had more 1st downs, more total yards, more yards per play and Brees threw for 100 more yards than Rogers. Those are just the stats.
Yeah, and anyone who watched the game knows that those stats were a product of the Saints going down 2 TDs halfway thru the 1st quarter and playing catchup the whole game.
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Quote from: capt. scotty on Sep 09, 2011, 07:01 PM
I felt like I was watching a video game last night. GB's offense is filthy.
The difference was the Saints 1 turnover, not GB's offense being "filthy"; The Saints had more 1st downs, more total yards, more yards per play and Brees threw for 100 more yards than Rogers. Those are just the stats.
Yeah, and anyone who watched the game knows that those stats were a product of the Saints going down 2 TDs halfway thru the 1st quarter and playing catchup the whole game.
I watched the game; I disagree that the Pack has a better offense than the Saints. They played "catch up" in the 4th quarter, but they didn't need to play "catch up" the whole game; they have Brees. Plus, it was 21-17 in the 2nd, and only down by 1 score throughout the 3rd, that's pretty "caught up" if you ask me.
I'd even go as far as to say the Saints did better against a better defense, too.
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Quote from: capt. scotty on Sep 09, 2011, 07:01 PM
I felt like I was watching a video game last night. GB's offense is filthy.
The difference was the Saints 1 turnover, not GB's offense being "filthy"; The Saints had more 1st downs, more total yards, more yards per play and Brees threw for 100 more yards than Rogers. Those are just the stats.
Yeah, and anyone who watched the game knows that those stats were a product of the Saints going down 2 TDs halfway thru the 1st quarter and playing catchup the whole game.
I watched the game; I disagree that the Pack has a better offense than the Saints. They played "catch up" in the 4th quarter, but they didn't need to play "catch up" the whole game; they have Brees. Plus, it was 21-17 in the 2nd, and only down by 1 score throughout the 3rd, that's pretty "caught up" if you ask me.
I'd even go as far as to say the Saints did better against a better defense, too.
Already!? ;D ;D ;D
Seriously, the NFL has never seen quarterbacking remotely close to this level. That was the BEST quarterbacked game I've ever seen by both sides in a game ever! This is no hyberbole. What Rodgers and Brees were doing with their manipulation of the other team's respective defenses and pinpoint throwing was something I'd never seen before, not even in the best Manning/Brady matchups. I agree that the Packers have the better D, and consistently put more pressure on Brees throughout the game. As a result, Brees definitely had to work to get his yards. BUT, his 3rd down success rate was remarkable.
On the other hand, though his sample size is still small, I already believe that Aaron Rodgers is the best football player I have ever seen period. He is the total package with only his durability a subject of question. Otherwise, he is the ultimate football weapon.
I laugh when people talk about all the "weapons" that both qbs have. Are you kidding me?! Outside of maybe Greg Jennings, none of the other skill players on either team are anything to write home about. The throws being made to covered receivers on the money to their back shoulder or elsewhere before the receivers even turned to look astounding. Great QBs make great receivers. Great receivers don't make great qbs. What if Lee Evans was drafted by the Colts and Marvin Harrison was drafted by the Bills?
Great blocking by Jimmy Graham on that run play on the 3rd down attempt inside the 10 the first time. ::)
Really the only difference was the Colston fumble. With this kind of play, the NFL may end up reverting back to rules that help DBs a little more as the running game is becoming more and more peripheral and the spread offense the norm. It's becoming arena league footaball on the 100x50
Quote from: Ruckus on Sep 10, 2011, 02:16 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Sep 09, 2011, 10:02 PM
Quote from: capt. scotty on Sep 09, 2011, 09:05 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Sep 09, 2011, 08:24 PM
Quote from: capt. scotty on Sep 09, 2011, 07:01 PM
I felt like I was watching a video game last night. GB's offense is filthy.
The difference was the Saints 1 turnover, not GB's offense being "filthy"; The Saints had more 1st downs, more total yards, more yards per play and Brees threw for 100 more yards than Rogers. Those are just the stats.
Yeah, and anyone who watched the game knows that those stats were a product of the Saints going down 2 TDs halfway thru the 1st quarter and playing catchup the whole game.
I watched the game; I disagree that the Pack has a better offense than the Saints. They played "catch up" in the 4th quarter, but they didn't need to play "catch up" the whole game; they have Brees. Plus, it was 21-17 in the 2nd, and only down by 1 score throughout the 3rd, that's pretty "caught up" if you ask me.
I'd even go as far as to say the Saints did better against a better defense, too.
Already!? ;D ;D ;D
Seriously, the NFL has never seen quarterbacking remotely close to this level. That was the BEST quarterbacked game I've ever seen by both sides in a game ever! This is no hyberbole. What Rodgers and Brees were doing with their manipulation of the other team's respective defenses and pinpoint throwing was something I'd never seen before, not even in the best Manning/Brady matchups. I agree that the Packers have the better D, and consistently put more pressure on Brees throughout the game. As a result, Brees definitely had to work to get his yards. BUT, his 3rd down success rate was remarkable.
On the other hand, though his sample size is still small, I already believe that Aaron Rodgers is the best football player I have ever seen period. He is the total package with only his durability a subject of question. Otherwise, he is the ultimate football weapon.
I laugh when people talk about all the "weapons" that both qbs have. Are you kidding me?! Outside of maybe Greg Jennings, none of the other skill players on either team are anything to write home about. The throws being made to covered receivers on the money to their back shoulder or elsewhere before the receivers even turned to look astounding. Great QBs make great receivers. Great receivers don't make great qbs. What if Lee Evans was drafted by the Colts and Marvin Harrison was drafted by the Bills?
Great blocking by Jimmy Graham on that run play on the 3rd down attempt inside the 10 the first time. ::)
Really the only difference was the Colston fumble. With this kind of play, the NFL may end up reverting back to rules that help DBs a little more as the running game is becoming more and more peripheral and the spread offense the norm. It's becoming arena league footaball on the 100x50
Yes , I seem to always be schooling the nooooBs here about football. :)
I actually like the Pack and agree with a lot of what you're saying about Rodgers. Best player ever? Not going to go there anytime soon, but I do enjoy his skills and the way he "is" on the field.
Also, it was great to see the rest of the world introduced to Randall Cobb. As an SEC fan, I was very familiar with his play at UK.
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PS, hate the ball being kicked from the 35
Quote from: Ruckus on Sep 10, 2011, 02:16 PM
I laugh when people talk about all the "weapons" that both qbs have. Are you kidding me?! Outside of maybe Greg Jennings, none of the other skill players on either team are anything to write home about. The throws being made to covered receivers on the money to their back shoulder or elsewhere before the receivers even turned to look astounding. Great QBs make great receivers. Great receivers don't make great qbs. What if Lee Evans was drafted by the Colts and Marvin Harrison was drafted by the Bills?
Id wait until at least the end of the year to say that in regards to Ingram, otherwise I would agree with your assessment (although Jennings is a great WR. quit fooling yourself on him). NO's playcalling with Ingram was frustrating to say the least. He got 19 snaps and 13 rushes, way to telegraph your playcalling Payton! Also, rotating backs down to down which they did a lot also strikes me as dumb. If youre going to rotate them, give Ingram a series, then Pierre a series. Hard to get into a groove when youre out there for a play and then back on the sidelines. This aint high school.
Cant wait for tomorrow. Considering the Ravens have about 8 new starters, I dont mind playing them week 1 at all.
can't wait to sit on my ass all day and watch football. i'm not very excited about the giants this season, especially since their entire defense is hurt, but i think they should win today.
NFL kick-off Sunday is one of my favorite days of the year. Can't wait to do NOTHING all damn day but watch football. Viva La NFL Sunday Ticket!
Quote from: joey_rogo on Sep 11, 2011, 09:09 AM
can't wait to sit on my ass all day and watch football. i'm not very excited about the giants this season, especially since their entire defense is hurt, but i think they should win today.
They really have the shittiest luck. Either way, happy to have football Sunday back!
GMENNNNN!
told you my precious lions were going to spank some bitches this season. their defensive line looks like it just got out of prison after 10years. nothing more intimidating than a bunch of huge black guys with no desire other than breaking you. if stafford doesn't break we could make it to the superbowl.
Quote from: capt. scotty on Sep 10, 2011, 07:16 PM
Cant wait for tomorrow. Considering the Ravens have about 8 new starters, I dont mind playing them week 1 at all.
;D
i am close to entering rage mode.
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Sep 11, 2011, 04:30 PM
Quote from: capt. scotty on Sep 10, 2011, 07:16 PM
Cant wait for tomorrow. Considering the Ravens have about 8 new starters, I dont mind playing them week 1 at all.
;D
I LOL'd at this LOL -- and I'm a Stillers guy. Ballmore looks kinda good.
Quote from: lil sis on Sep 11, 2011, 12:19 PM
Quote from: joey_rogo on Sep 11, 2011, 09:09 AM
can't wait to sit on my ass all day and watch football. i'm not very excited about the giants this season, especially since their entire defense is hurt, but i think they should win today.
They really have the shittiest luck. Either way, happy to have football Sunday back!
GMENNNNN!
;D ::) ;D ::) ;D ::)
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Upon further review...yup, the shittiest luck
Quote from: Crispy on Sep 11, 2011, 08:48 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Sep 11, 2011, 04:30 PM
Quote from: capt. scotty on Sep 10, 2011, 07:16 PM
Cant wait for tomorrow. Considering the Ravens have about 8 new starters, I dont mind playing them week 1 at all.
;D
I LOL'd at this LOL -- and I'm a Stillers guy. Ballmore looks kinda good.
Hahaha (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P6UU6m3cqk#)
We got owned. Flacco finally looked like a legit QB. Our D looked old outside of Ike Taylor.
That said, we have the same record as the Aints :thumbsup:
Quote from: capt. scotty on Sep 12, 2011, 02:53 AM
That said, we have the same record as the Aints :thumbsup:
wow, a Steelers fan talking about the Saints! Do you know how happy that makes me? :) :)
you guys have won 6 Super Bowls, we have won 1 and were the doormat of the NFL for 40 years plus, yet you evoke our names after an opening season loss? ;D ;D
At least
pretend like it doesn't bother you! This is a cake walk.
49ers=1st place!!
So can we write the Ram's off for the season already?
Quote from: mjk73 on Sep 12, 2011, 12:19 PM
So can we write the Ram's off for the season already?
If Bradford and SJax are out for awhile, yes.
I think this might be the first year in awhile where the NFC has more strong teams than the AFC. I think the NFC North and South both have 3 playoff worthy teams, and the East 2 (IMO Dallas was really outplaying the Jets last night until they choked in the 4th). Whereas in the AFC, I only see 5 teams at that same level (NE, NYJ, BAL, PIT, SD) with maybe HOU keeping everything together for a whole season finally.
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Sep 12, 2011, 08:04 AM
At least pretend like it doesn't bother you! This is a cake walk.
Why would I pretend getting blownout by our biggest rival doesnt bother me?
"I like scoring points." -Tom Brady
Me too.
517 yds., fair trade for his first interception in over 7 games.
Go Pats!
No chance we beat the Cheaters this year unless Brady gets hurt. We'll need help from someone else beating them again.
Cant wait for Mr. UGG for Men to retire
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Welcome to the 2011 season :thumbsup:
Quote from: MMJ_fanatic on Sep 13, 2011, 10:17 AM
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Welcome to the 2011 season :thumbsup:
YUCK! (sorry MMJF and JY)!...just Muther f-in YUCK!!!
Quote from: capt. scotty on Sep 12, 2011, 11:51 PM
No chance we beat the Cheaters this year unless Brady gets hurt. We'll need help from someone else beating them again.
Cant wait for Mr. UGG for Men to retire
New England, with or without Brady, is always beatable. Last night was hardly one-sided, though I approve of the outcome.
And is it not yet time to rest the "cheaters" business? Does it apply to anything about this
current team, its players, coaches, etc.? Dues paid, time to move on.
Tom Brady=way overrated. He's not that good.
Oh wait, scratch that. He's readicculus!
bbill, where you at? I loved watching this guy run at Arkansas and I love watching him in the silver and black
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Quote from: Ruckus on Sep 12, 2011, 12:02 AM
Quote from: lil sis on Sep 11, 2011, 12:19 PM
Quote from: joey_rogo on Sep 11, 2011, 09:09 AM
can't wait to sit on my ass all day and watch football. i'm not very excited about the giants this season, especially since their entire defense is hurt, but i think they should win today.
They really have the shittiest luck. Either way, happy to have football Sunday back!
GMENNNNN!
;D ::) ;D ::) ;D ::)
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(http://undergroundsportsnetwork.net/site/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/david-tyree-catch.jpg)
Upon further review...yup, the shittiest luck
I meant based on injuries the past two seasons. We have 5 starters out right now!
Quote from: lil sis on Sep 13, 2011, 09:47 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Sep 12, 2011, 12:02 AM
Quote from: lil sis on Sep 11, 2011, 12:19 PM
Quote from: joey_rogo on Sep 11, 2011, 09:09 AM
can't wait to sit on my ass all day and watch football. i'm not very excited about the giants this season, especially since their entire defense is hurt, but i think they should win today.
They really have the shittiest luck. Either way, happy to have football Sunday back!
GMENNNNN!
;D ::) ;D ::) ;D ::)
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Upon further review...yup, the shittiest luck
I meant based on injuries the past two seasons. We have 5 starters out right now!
You'll get n0 pity from me sista! ;D You have 3 Super Bowls in your lifetime. My Jetsies have none ;D
Quote from: Ruckus on Sep 13, 2011, 10:45 PM
Quote from: lil sis on Sep 13, 2011, 09:47 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Sep 12, 2011, 12:02 AM
Quote from: lil sis on Sep 11, 2011, 12:19 PM
Quote from: joey_rogo on Sep 11, 2011, 09:09 AM
can't wait to sit on my ass all day and watch football. i'm not very excited about the giants this season, especially since their entire defense is hurt, but i think they should win today.
They really have the shittiest luck. Either way, happy to have football Sunday back!
GMENNNNN!
;D ::) ;D ::) ;D ::)
(http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/8800000/Scott-Norwood-s-missed-Field-goal-vs-Giants-buffalo-bills-8858132-666-400.jpg)
(http://undergroundsportsnetwork.net/site/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/david-tyree-catch.jpg)
Upon further review...yup, the shittiest luck
I meant based on injuries the past two seasons. We have 5 starters out right now!
You'll get n0 pity from me sista! ;D You have 3 Super Bowls in your lifetime. My Jetsies have none ;D
Ok ok...umm good luck? ;)
Quote from: Ruckus on Sep 13, 2011, 10:45 PM
[You'll get n0 pity from me sista! ;D You have 3 Super Bowls in your lifetime. My Jetsies have none ;D
jets fan ehhh....i'm a patriots fan....heeyyoooo
i just watched a football life this morning with Bill Belichick. Loved it. I wish it wasn't about the 2009 season. that wasn't one of their greatest seasons. it's a great look inside of a team though.
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Quote from: Ruckus on Sep 13, 2011, 10:45 PM
[You'll get n0 pity from me sista! ;D You have 3 Super Bowls in your lifetime. My Jetsies have none ;D
jets fan ehhh....i'm a patriots fan....heeyyoooo
i just watched a football life this morning with Bill Belichick. Loved it. I wish it wasn't about the 2009 season. that wasn't one of their greatest seasons. it's a great look inside of a team though.
Where did you see that? I saw a promo but think it was for NFL Network. I'd like to see if its on On Demand. Love or hate Belichick, he's a great coach.
Quote from: johnnYYac on Sep 16, 2011, 12:25 PM
Where did you see that? I saw a promo but think it was for NFL Network. I'd like to see if its on On Demand. Love or hate Belichick, he's a great coach.
it was on last night at 9pm eastern on the nfl network. part 2 is going to air next thursday same time. it was really good, try and find it on demand if you can.
Fuck you St Louis Fox affiliate. Fuck you. Arguably the most historic rivalry in the NFL has a game and what the fuck do you show? Cops. Fucking lame
Quote from: MMJ_fanatic on Sep 13, 2011, 10:17 AM
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Welcome to the 2011 season :thumbsup:
Welcome to 2-1 and a suspect D
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Quote from: MMJ_fanatic on Sep 13, 2011, 10:17 AM
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Welcome to the 2011 season :thumbsup:
Welcome to 2-1 and a suspect D
Both the D and O were missing some key pieces (Hernandez and Haynesworth) and I bet Oh-no Ocho is feeling kinda goat like. They killed themselves with penalties--no excuses there >:(
Quote from: Jane on Sep 16, 2011, 07:59 AM
Quote from: Ruckus on Sep 13, 2011, 10:45 PM
[You'll get n0 pity from me sista! ;D You have 3 Super Bowls in your lifetime. My Jetsies have none ;D
jets fan ehhh....i'm a patriots fan....heeyyoooo
i just watched a football life this morning with Bill Belichick. Loved it. I wish it wasn't about the 2009 season. that wasn't one of their greatest seasons. it's a great look inside of a team though.
Ugh. I enjoyed our brief friendship....
I watched the both Belichick episodes on Saturday. They were good. Maybe not as revealing as I hoped it would be but am always impressed by how in such an understated way, he can get his players to work so hard year in and year out. Maybe my favorite parts were with just him and Brady in his office talking xs and os on the fly and raving about Ed Reed.
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"Coach Hue (Jackson) always tells us we're building a bully," McFadden said. "It doesn't matter who we're playing against. That's what we're trying to do, to bully them. That's what we did today."
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Quote from: Jane on Sep 16, 2011, 07:59 AM
Quote from: Ruckus on Sep 13, 2011, 10:45 PM
[You'll get n0 pity from me sista! ;D You have 3 Super Bowls in your lifetime. My Jetsies have none ;D
jets fan ehhh....i'm a patriots fan....heeyyoooo
i just watched a football life this morning with Bill Belichick. Loved it. I wish it wasn't about the 2009 season. that wasn't one of their greatest seasons. it's a great look inside of a team though.
Ugh. I enjoyed our brief friendship....
I watched the both Belichick episodes on Saturday. They were good. Maybe not as revealing as I hoped it would be but am always impressed by how in such an understated way, he can get his players to work so hard year in and year out. Maybe my favorite parts were with just him and Brady in his office talking xs and os on the fly and raving about Ed Reed.
Ed Reed is as good as it gets. are you going to the game this weekend? i know the Jets are in town.
honestly after last weeks game against the jets, I'm not 100% confident with playing against the Raiders. A loss to the bills wasn't to get overly worried about. Like the Lions, the Bills look great this year. Lets just see how both of those teams hold up throughout the season.
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Can I get an AMEN? JPP is going to be a household...errr, acronym by week 6.
As if I need any more reason to despise Brett Favre and or love Aaron Rodgers. I wonder how Favre's old teammates feel about them not being talented. Oh yeah, Rodgers had so much talent around him. Greg Jennings and clowns last year and a bumbling offensive line with no running game. It seems Favre forgot that he had the Minister of Defense on his side as well. I hope Rodgers wins multiple rings so Favre can quickly fade into irrelevance
Now that quarterback Aaron Rodgers has propelled the Packers to their fourth Super Bowl title, his onetime Green Bay counterpart, Brett Favre, wonders why it took so long.
The iconic former Packer, speaking in a radio interview on Atlanta's 790 The Zone, said he always expected his previous untested understudy to become his equal in that most meaningful head-to-head statistic: Super Bowl rings.
He just kind of fell into a good situation. On top of that, he's a good player. I don't think there's any pressure on him now, the talent around him is even better than when I was there.
" -- Brett Favre on Aaron Rodgers' path to NFL success
"I'm going to be honest, I was not surprised," Favre, who won his only Super Bowl in New Orleans in 1997, said on Tuesday in the interview, as quoted by USA Today. "The biggest surprise to me would be that he didn't do it sooner."
Favre said he realized all along how good of a quarterback Rodgers could be and had high expectations for him to be in this position -- in the limelight, winning his first Super Bowl in January. But he also intimated that Rodgers' rise into elite status has been aided by a supporting cast better than he had in Green Bay.
"He's very bright and he got a chance to watch and see successful teams do it right," Favre said of his successor, currently among the league leaders this season with 12 touchdown passes and 1,325 yards passing. "And so he just kind of fell into a good situation. On top of that, he's a good player. I don't think there's any pressure on him now, the talent around him is even better than when I was there."
Before Favre was dealt to make way for Rodgers to become the starter, Favre said in an interview that it wasn't his job to mentor his understudies and acknowledged some friction with Rodgers when he arrived, but said their relationship improved.
"Aaron had a chance ... even though the last couple years it's seemed like he's almost a rookie, he's been around awhile," Favre said on the radio interview. "And I'd like to think that he watched, he learned, and then when he got a chance to play, he brought in his ability -- which is obviously very good or they wouldn't have drafted him in the first round."
Rodgers bided his time, then took over the starting job from Favre four years ago -- three years after being drafted with the 24th overall pick in 2005. After winning over skeptical fans and media opposed to his starting, he is now as revered in Green Bay as the guy who once wore No. 4.
"I'm really kind of surprised it took him so long," Favre said. "In the early part of last year season, it hadn't quite clicked yet, and I didn't know it would. I just kind of figured when they hit their stride, they're going to be hard to beat. And that's what happened."
Man, this never gets old
Brett Favre: Rise - "What should I do?" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POyFvDgV2cU#ws)
Quote from: Ruckus on Oct 05, 2011, 08:59 AM
As if I need any more reason to despise Brett Favre and or love Aaron Rodgers. I wonder how Favre's old teammates feel about them not being talented. Oh yeah, Rodgers had so much talent around him. Greg Jennings and clowns last year and a bumbling offensive line with no running game. It seems Favre forgot that he had the Minister of Defense on his side as well. I hope Rodgers wins multiple rings so Favre can quickly fade into irrelevance
Yeah, his comments have jealousy written all over it without a doubt.
Rodgers does have talent all around him (glad you can point out Jennings in name ;)) you cant argue that, but so did Favre. I was only 11 or 12 when Favre won the SB, but I still can recall him having Edgar Bennett and Dorsey Levens at RB (average, granted), but also having Sterling Sharpe, Antonio Freeman, and Robert Brooks. That was probably the best trio before ESPN or even the casual fan thought about best WR trios in the Harrison, Wayne, Stokley vein.
I cant remember defensive players for that team besides White, but that said, I certainly remember Reggie White being on that D. Not to mention, Desmond Howard was the KR/PR for that team, and Im pretty sure he won the MVP for that game.
Favre making statements like this not only sounds like jealousy, but he's wayyy early, because Id be amazed if Rodgers doesnt win at least 1 more championship in his career. And if not that, Favre only made it to 1 SB. I think Rodgers gets to at least 3 SBs with that stacked team.
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Quote from: Ruckus on Oct 05, 2011, 08:59 AM
As if I need any more reason to despise Brett Favre and or love Aaron Rodgers. I wonder how Favre's old teammates feel about them not being talented. Oh yeah, Rodgers had so much talent around him. Greg Jennings and clowns last year and a bumbling offensive line with no running game. It seems Favre forgot that he had the Minister of Defense on his side as well. I hope Rodgers wins multiple rings so Favre can quickly fade into irrelevance
Yeah, his comments have jealousy written all over it without a doubt.
Rodgers does have talent all around him (glad you can point out Jennings in name ;)) you cant argue that, but so did Favre. I was only 11 or 12 when Favre won the SB, but I still can recall him having Edgar Bennett and Dorsey Levens at RB (average, granted), but also having Sterling Sharpe, Antonio Freeman, and Robert Brooks. That was probably the best trio before ESPN or even the casual fan thought about best WR trios in the Harrison, Wayne, Stokley vein.
I cant remember defensive players for that team besides White, but that said, I certainly remember Reggie White being on that D. Not to mention, Desmond Howard was the KR/PR for that team, and Im pretty sure he won the MVP for that game.
Favre making statements like this not only sounds like jealousy, but he's wayyy early, because Id be amazed if Rodgers doesnt win at least 1 more championship in his career. And if not that, Favre only made it to 1 SB. I think Rodgers gets to at least 3 SBs with that stacked team.
Favre played in 2 Super Bowls, they lost to Denver the year after they won.
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Quote from: capt. scotty on Oct 06, 2011, 01:37 AM
Quote from: Ruckus on Oct 05, 2011, 08:59 AM
As if I need any more reason to despise Brett Favre and or love Aaron Rodgers. I wonder how Favre's old teammates feel about them not being talented. Oh yeah, Rodgers had so much talent around him. Greg Jennings and clowns last year and a bumbling offensive line with no running game. It seems Favre forgot that he had the Minister of Defense on his side as well. I hope Rodgers wins multiple rings so Favre can quickly fade into irrelevance
Yeah, his comments have jealousy written all over it without a doubt.
Rodgers does have talent all around him (glad you can point out Jennings in name ;)) you cant argue that, but so did Favre. I was only 11 or 12 when Favre won the SB, but I still can recall him having Edgar Bennett and Dorsey Levens at RB (average, granted), but also having Sterling Sharpe, Antonio Freeman, and Robert Brooks. That was probably the best trio before ESPN or even the casual fan thought about best WR trios in the Harrison, Wayne, Stokley vein.
I cant remember defensive players for that team besides White, but that said, I certainly remember Reggie White being on that D. Not to mention, Desmond Howard was the KR/PR for that team, and Im pretty sure he won the MVP for that game.
Favre making statements like this not only sounds like jealousy, but he's wayyy early, because Id be amazed if Rodgers doesnt win at least 1 more championship in his career. And if not that, Favre only made it to 1 SB. I think Rodgers gets to at least 3 SBs with that stacked team.
Favre played in 2 Super Bowls, they lost to Denver the year after they won.
You are correct sir, forgot about that. And that year, I think the better team won (well of course they did, they won the next year too).
Favre's longevity may have something to do with it and favor him, but I think at the end of the road, Rodgers goes down as the better QB overall. Then again, right now feels like the time of the QB so maybe that hurts QBs of this generation.
R.I.P. Mr. Davis. The NFL has lost one of its all-time greats.
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I bet the Raiders finally get back to the playoffs this year now that he died. A great and terrible owner at the same time. I dont think I'll be able to watch any pregame, halftime, or postgame shows the next few days because this will be all that they talk about.
I think he kicked the bucket because I traded Denarius Moore. There goes another trade of mine down the drain!
Quote from: capt. scotty on Oct 08, 2011, 01:57 PM
I dont think I'll be able to watch any pregame, halftime, or postgame shows the next few days because this will be all that they talk about.
I'm looking forward to them for the exact same reason. He was an amazing man. The game passed him by this last decade, but I'm glad that he was able to go out running the team. I'm also very excited to move forward with the players and personnel we've got.
http://www.contracostatimes.com/raiders/ci_19071399%22 (http://www.contracostatimes.com/raiders/ci_19071399%22)
Damn G-Men!
Here I was thinking maybe I could have a nice relaxing, 1 or 2 beer, enjoyable Sunday afternoon, and these guys are driving me to drink!!! ;)
A three beer first quarter is not what I was hoping for. :o
Need fire-water! >:(
Sunday to forget
G-Men ruin my nice weekend
Monday looking rough
Considering the Steelers didnt really have a quality win going into yesterday (Jax maybe? theyve played good the last few weeks), I wasnt sure what to expect playing NE. The Patsies D is garbage, so I knew we would be able to score on them, but the biggest question was could we outscore them. In the end, the offense looked better than maybe I even expected (besides the INT, they werent stopped until the final drive), but the D is what really impressed me. Lebeau finally has the DBs playing man press coverage after years of having them 10yds off the line of scrimmage and NE just dinks and dunks us to death. Wasnt the case yesterday with the change in philosophy. Plus we were missing 3 LBs to start the game, lost Woodley in the 3rd, yet still were able to get pressure on Brady and stop their O. Now I dont know why it took this long for them to finally realize/change their coverage as myself and other fans have been saying this for years, but it was awesome to finally see. With how bad their D is right now, this is the least scared Ive been of playing the Patsies in about a decade should we see them in the playoffs.
Considering the Saints lost to the Rams, Cowboys got blownout by Philly, Cards almost beat the Ravens, and Miami almost beats the GMen, Im feeling pretty good right now. Cant wait for payback against the Ratbirds next sunday night :bath:
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Considering the Saints lost to the Rams, Cowboys got blownout by Philly, Cards almost beat the Ravens, and Miami almost beats the GMen, Im feeling pretty right now. :bath:
Glad the Saints lost? ;D
I guess we
have arrived if Steelers fans are rooting against us, although all the Steelers fans
I know like the Saints.
awesome, that sort of makes my day :)
you know, we're pretty close to being the new America's Team, so bring on the hate!
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The Tebow experiment in Denver is OVER , I think ;)
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The Tebow experiment in Denver is OVER , I think ;)
He is terrible. The only thing that keeps him around is that he is a fan favorite. Just goes to show that all the heart and determination can't make him an NFL-level QB.
Quote from: capt. scotty on Oct 31, 2011, 02:07 PM
Considering the Steelers didnt really have a quality win going into yesterday (Jax maybe? theyve played good the last few weeks), I wasnt sure what to expect playing NE. The Patsies D is garbage, so I knew we would be able to score on them, but the biggest question was could we outscore them. In the end, the offense looked better than maybe I even expected (besides the INT, they werent stopped until the final drive), but the D is what really impressed me. Lebeau finally has the DBs playing man press coverage after years of having them 10yds off the line of scrimmage and NE just dinks and dunks us to death. Wasnt the case yesterday with the change in philosophy. Plus we were missing 3 LBs to start the game, lost Woodley in the 3rd, yet still were able to get pressure on Brady and stop their O. Now I dont know why it took this long for them to finally realize/change their coverage as myself and other fans have been saying this for years, but it was awesome to finally see. With how bad their D is right now, this is the least scared Ive been of playing the Patsies in about a decade should we see them in the playoffs.
Considering the Saints lost to the Rams, Cowboys got blownout by Philly, Cards almost beat the Ravens, and Miami almost beats the GMen, Im feeling pretty good right now. Cant wait for payback against the Ratbirds next sunday night :bath:
Great game yesterday! Pats really screwed up by not challenging that Gronkowki catch at the endzone line. I thought it was more obviously a TD than that Santonio Holmes catch a few years ago against Baltimore. It would've been nice to se us come away with more TD's over field goals, we should've blown them out. Too bad Cards couldn't hang on to beat Baltimore.
For the record, I like the Saints. It's hard to root against that city.
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The Tebow experiment in Denver is OVER , I think ;)
Maybe so, but to mock his religious beliefs like this is pretty low, and wrong,imo.
The Lions are getting tough to like. Has there been a team in recent memory to go so fast from being a team that most NFL fans were pulling for since they've been bad for so long, to being seen as a dirty,cocky, hated team?
This team hasn't done anything yet. I hope someone takes them down a peg ot two.
C'mon Eric. I don't think he was mocking his religious beliefs but merely his "celebration." Shoot, I know I Tebowed a bunch of times last night with friends. If you have a go to pose on the field, you're free game. I kinda think that copying another person's move as shit talk is a little played out though I am guilty of it in front of the TV all the time. I think I Tebowed last night after telling a bad joke, we took to one knee before shots... ::) I was trying to figure out how hard work and 'heart' could create a 42pt TD
I've wanted to like Suh because he is so incredible but I find his dirtiness to be too offputting
I guess T-boning has became bigger than Planking ( whatever the hell that is ). It's all the rage with the kids. At least thats what my daughter says.
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Quote from: capt. scotty on Oct 31, 2011, 02:07 PM
Considering the Saints lost to the Rams, Cowboys got blownout by Philly, Cards almost beat the Ravens, and Miami almost beats the GMen, Im feeling pretty right now. :bath:
Glad the Saints lost? ;D
I guess we have arrived if Steelers fans are rooting against us, although all the Steelers fans I know like the Saints.
awesome, that sort of makes my day :)
Where did I say Im glad they lost? I dont think I brought it up when they lost to GB, because well, GB is actually good. I think its funny youre so full of yourself that anytime I mention the Saints you take it as insult or that Im trying to dog the Saints. I brought up 5 teams that are supposed to make the playoffs in that same sentence, not just
your team. So I guess youre fine with gettiing blownout by arguably the worst team in the NFL?
What I actually was was saying by that sentence, is that it feels good to beat a team thats considered Top 5 in the NFL at this point in the season (and the only team to consistently beat the Steelers during the Roethlisberger era) while at the same time the Saints lose to a winless team, the Cowboys get owned by a division rival, and the Ravens and Giants needed to make 4th quarter comebacks vs teams that are a combined 1-13. The Steelers, despite multiple injuries, appear to be improving every week whereas many of the other top teams in the NFL are struggling or declining, and why I suspect the Steelers will be #2 in most power rankings this week.
Quote from: Ruckus on Oct 31, 2011, 05:05 PM
C'mon Eric. I don't think he was mocking his religious beliefs but merely his "celebration." Shoot, I know I Tebowed a bunch of times last night with friends. If you have a go to pose on the field, you're free game. I kinda think that copying another person's move as shit talk is a little played out though I am guilty of it in front of the TV all the time. I think I Tebowed last night after telling a bad joke, we took to one knee before shots... ::) I was trying to figure out how hard work and 'heart' could create a 42pt TD
I've wanted to like Suh because he is so incredible but I find his dirtiness to be too offputting
Maybe so Rob, but it just came off like a mocking to me. Since this is Tebow's way of giving thanks to his God, it struck me as mocking his beliefs, and not mocking the act of "Tebowing" itself.
I'm probably reading too much into it, as it is hard to believe one player would mock another's beliefs, but nothing really surprises me these days.
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Quote from: capt. scotty on Oct 31, 2011, 02:07 PM
Considering the Steelers didnt really have a quality win going into yesterday (Jax maybe? theyve played good the last few weeks), I wasnt sure what to expect playing NE. The Patsies D is garbage, so I knew we would be able to score on them, but the biggest question was could we outscore them. In the end, the offense looked better than maybe I even expected (besides the INT, they werent stopped until the final drive), but the D is what really impressed me. Lebeau finally has the DBs playing man press coverage after years of having them 10yds off the line of scrimmage and NE just dinks and dunks us to death. Wasnt the case yesterday with the change in philosophy. Plus we were missing 3 LBs to start the game, lost Woodley in the 3rd, yet still were able to get pressure on Brady and stop their O. Now I dont know why it took this long for them to finally realize/change their coverage as myself and other fans have been saying this for years, but it was awesome to finally see. With how bad their D is right now, this is the least scared Ive been of playing the Patsies in about a decade should we see them in the playoffs.
Considering the Saints lost to the Rams, Cowboys got blownout by Philly, Cards almost beat the Ravens, and Miami almost beats the GMen, Im feeling pretty good right now. Cant wait for payback against the Ratbirds next sunday night :bath:
Great game yesterday! Pats really screwed up by not challenging that Gronkowki catch at the endzone line. It would've been nice to se us come away with more TD's over field goals, we should've blown them out. Too bad Cards couldn't hang on to beat Baltimore.
Yeah, terrible call to not challenge the Gronk TD. It was clearly a TD, but even if it doesnt get overturned, at least NE stops the clock there. By not challenging, they lost at least 90 seconds of clock, and that really couldve changed the outcome of the game in all honesty. We certainly beat/outplayed them more than the score dictated.
I thought the Ravens were toast once they were down 24-3...Oh well, I think we will beat them this week and that matters more. Flacco is never getting that team to a super bowl, he looks downright terrible at times. I wouldnt have blamed them if they brought Tyrod Taylor in for him.
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Quote from: Ruckus on Oct 31, 2011, 05:05 PM
C'mon Eric. I don't think he was mocking his religious beliefs but merely his "celebration." Shoot, I know I Tebowed a bunch of times last night with friends. If you have a go to pose on the field, you're free game. I kinda think that copying another person's move as shit talk is a little played out though I am guilty of it in front of the TV all the time. I think I Tebowed last night after telling a bad joke, we took to one knee before shots... ::) I was trying to figure out how hard work and 'heart' could create a 42pt TD
I've wanted to like Suh because he is so incredible but I find his dirtiness to be too offputting
Maybe so Rob, but it just came off like a mocking to me. Since this is Tebow's way of giving thanks to his God, it struck me as mocking his beliefs, and not mocking the act of "Tebowing" itself.
So when a player does it its mocking his beliefs but when an average joe does it, its not? I dont see your point. I think Tulloch was simply mocking the pose, as well as mocking the Tebow because of how much publicity he gets when he really has proved nothing in the NFL.
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Quote from: Ruckus on Oct 31, 2011, 05:05 PM
C'mon Eric. I don't think he was mocking his religious beliefs but merely his "celebration." Shoot, I know I Tebowed a bunch of times last night with friends. If you have a go to pose on the field, you're free game. I kinda think that copying another person's move as shit talk is a little played out though I am guilty of it in front of the TV all the time. I think I Tebowed last night after telling a bad joke, we took to one knee before shots... ::) I was trying to figure out how hard work and 'heart' could create a 42pt TD
I've wanted to like Suh because he is so incredible but I find his dirtiness to be too offputting
Maybe so Rob, but it just came off like a mocking to me. Since this is Tebow's way of giving thanks to his God, it struck me as mocking his beliefs, and not mocking the act of "Tebowing" itself.
I'm probably reading too much into it, as it is hard to believe one player would mock another's beliefs, but nothing really surprises me these days.
I gotcha. I've always found it remarkable how much religious expression is tolerated in the sports world when it really isn't in any other workplace. I find it just as selfish an act by not immediately celebrating with your teammates as any other diva receiver that has to do a personal celebration before accepting congratulations from your teammates that helped you score. I wonder if he'd do that after handing in a term paper, TPS report, or maybe serving entrees at a restaurant.
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Quote from: ericm on Oct 31, 2011, 05:24 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Oct 31, 2011, 05:05 PM
C'mon Eric. I don't think he was mocking his religious beliefs but merely his "celebration." Shoot, I know I Tebowed a bunch of times last night with friends. If you have a go to pose on the field, you're free game. I kinda think that copying another person's move as shit talk is a little played out though I am guilty of it in front of the TV all the time. I think I Tebowed last night after telling a bad joke, we took to one knee before shots... ::) I was trying to figure out how hard work and 'heart' could create a 42pt TD
I've wanted to like Suh because he is so incredible but I find his dirtiness to be too offputting
Maybe so Rob, but it just came off like a mocking to me. Since this is Tebow's way of giving thanks to his God, it struck me as mocking his beliefs, and not mocking the act of "Tebowing" itself.
So when a player does it its mocking his beliefs but when an average joe does it, its not? I dont see your point. I think Tulloch was simply mocking the pose, as well as mocking the Tebow because of how much publicity he gets when he really has proved nothing in the NFL.
Not sure I could explain my point any clearer.
I was commenting on this player mocking Tebow, not the average Joe doing the "Tebow". The average Joe doing it, to me is more of a copycat type thing than a mocking. This guy did it on the field...a big difference,imo.
Like I said, in this instance it came off TO ME as mocking his beliefs, and not mocking the act of "Tebowing".
Tebow does this as a way of giving thanks. He's not doing some celebration dance, or championship belt thing. So to me by mocking it on the field like that, is by extension mocking his religious beliefs. I'm not trying to sound all "holier than thou" but I thought it was a pretty low thing to do.
btw, I'm not a Tebow fan, and agree he gets a lot of pub for not doing much, and I don't think he's an NFL caliber QB.
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Considering the Saints lost to the Rams, Cowboys got blownout by Philly, Cards almost beat the Ravens, and Miami almost beats the GMen, Im feeling pretty right now. :bath:
Glad the Saints lost? ;D
I guess we have arrived if Steelers fans are rooting against us, although all the Steelers fans I know like the Saints.
awesome, that sort of makes my day :)
Where did I say Im glad they lost? I dont think I brought it up when they lost to GB, because well, GB is actually good. I think its funny youre so full of yourself that anytime I mention the Saints you take it as insult or that Im trying to dog the Saints. I brought up 5 teams that are supposed to make the playoffs in that same sentence, not just your team. So I guess youre fine with gettiing blownout by arguably the worst team in the NFL?
keep it coming! ;D
also: Rams > Colts
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The Tebow experiment in Denver is OVER , I think ;)
Maybe so, but to mock his religious beliefs like this is pretty low, and wrong,imo.
In a sport where the object is to inflict pain and someone may call you a mother fucker (not a real nice thing to say to someone) I think the celebration mocking Tebow is tame and very funny. Plus, separation of Church and State of Broncos football...
Not getting into the Tebow discussion, he'll be old news in the next few weeks. I'm more interested in the resurgeance of the Eagles. Granted it's been 2 weeks of well played ball in the NFC East (which is kinda bad to be honest), but damn have they looked good as of late. This is the team I thought would show up on Sundays. Maybe they took a bit of time to gel, maybe its false hope. We'll find out soon enough.
Quote from: peafunk31 on Oct 31, 2011, 08:23 PM
Not getting into the Tebow discussion, he'll be old news in the next few weeks. I'm more interested in the resurgeance of the Eagles. Granted it's been 2 weeks of well played ball in the NFC East (which is kinda bad to be honest), but damn have they looked good as of late. This is the team I thought would show up on Sundays. Maybe they took a bit of time to gel, maybe its false hope. We'll find out soon enough.
They looked damn good last night. McCoy is obviously a probowl caliber RB, but they couldve brought Ricky Watters back last night and he wouldve gone for 150. I cant believe the holes McCoy was getting vs the #1 rush D, especially in the 1st quarter. The most rushing yds by a RB vs DAL this year was SJax's 70 last week, and that was including a 40yd run. Unreal blocking, pass blocking as well, by the Philly OL.
I think either DET because of their DL or Philly because of their CBs (although they have a very good pass rushing DL as well with Cole, Babin, and Jenkins) are the 2 teams with the best chance to beat the Packers in the NFC this year.
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Considering the Saints lost to the Rams, Cowboys got blownout by Philly, Cards almost beat the Ravens, and Miami almost beats the GMen, Im feeling pretty right now. :bath:
Glad the Saints lost? ;D
I guess we have arrived if Steelers fans are rooting against us, although all the Steelers fans I know like the Saints.
awesome, that sort of makes my day :)
Where did I say Im glad they lost? I dont think I brought it up when they lost to GB, because well, GB is actually good. I think its funny youre so full of yourself that anytime I mention the Saints you take it as insult or that Im trying to dog the Saints. I brought up 5 teams that are supposed to make the playoffs in that same sentence, not just your team. So I guess youre fine with gettiing blownout by arguably the worst team in the NFL?
keep it coming! ;D
also: Rams > Colts
Not so sure about that. Both are bad, and the Colts will probably win at least a game as well. Then again, the Saints did just lose to the AJ Feeley lead Rams. Thats worse than losing to the TeBroncos in all liklihood.
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Quote from: capt. scotty on Oct 31, 2011, 05:27 PM
Quote from: ericm on Oct 31, 2011, 05:24 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Oct 31, 2011, 05:05 PM
C'mon Eric. I don't think he was mocking his religious beliefs but merely his "celebration." Shoot, I know I Tebowed a bunch of times last night with friends. If you have a go to pose on the field, you're free game. I kinda think that copying another person's move as shit talk is a little played out though I am guilty of it in front of the TV all the time. I think I Tebowed last night after telling a bad joke, we took to one knee before shots... ::) I was trying to figure out how hard work and 'heart' could create a 42pt TD
I've wanted to like Suh because he is so incredible but I find his dirtiness to be too offputting
Maybe so Rob, but it just came off like a mocking to me. Since this is Tebow's way of giving thanks to his God, it struck me as mocking his beliefs, and not mocking the act of "Tebowing" itself.
So when a player does it its mocking his beliefs but when an average joe does it, its not? I dont see your point. I think Tulloch was simply mocking the pose, as well as mocking the Tebow because of how much publicity he gets when he really has proved nothing in the NFL.
Not sure I could explain my point any clearer.
I was commenting on this player mocking Tebow, not the average Joe doing the "Tebow". The average Joe doing it, to me is more of a copycat type thing than a mocking. This guy did it on the field...a big difference,imo.
Like I said, in this instance it came off TO ME as mocking his beliefs, and not mocking the act of "Tebowing".
Tebow does this as a way of giving thanks. He's not doing some celebration dance, or championship belt thing. So to me by mocking it on the field like that, is by extension mocking his religious beliefs. I'm not trying to sound all "holier than thou" but I thought it was a pretty low thing to do.
btw, I'm not a Tebow fan, and agree he gets a lot of pub for not doing much, and I don't think he's an NFL caliber QB.
I read an article earlier today (can't remember where) that said Tulloch approached Tebow and told him it was meant in fun and not a mockery; and Tebow apparently told him "it was fine". The article was talking about how basically no one else would mention the exchange between the two and would only try and create a good guy, bad guy situation out of it. Looks like he was on to something.
Quote from: peafunk31 on Oct 31, 2011, 08:23 PM
Not getting into the Tebow discussion, he'll be old news in the next few weeks. I'm more interested in the resurgeance of the Eag Maybe they took a bit of time to gel, maybe its false hope.
WRONG! Tebow will always be the main attraction. When he's doing suicides up and down church pews after being cut by the Broncos, nobody'll care about Andy Reid and his Awake Apnea
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Quote from: peafunk31 on Oct 31, 2011, 08:23 PM
Not getting into the Tebow discussion, he'll be old news in the next few weeks. I'm more interested in the resurgeance of the Eag Maybe they took a bit of time to gel, maybe its false hope.
WRONG! Tebow will always be the main attraction. When he's doing suicides up and down church pews after being cut by the Broncos, nobody'll care about Andy Reid and his Awake Apnea
;D ;D ;D ;D Awake Apnea! You're lucky you don't have to hear his weekly press conferences. Between Andy's throat clearing & constant chortling, I find myself wanting to drive nails into my ear canals.
Tebow church pew suicides sound strangely entertaining. Perhaps a second career after he gets booted from the NFL?
I am really enjoying watching all the naysayers (and there is a ton of Tebow hate from the "professionals" on TV and radio) eat crow. Sort of nice when those in the know don't know. 4-1 by the "worst starting QB in the NFL"? Not bad :)
Tim Tebow Game Winning Touchdown vs. Jets (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rTPXoCpZSM#ws)
Quote from: peafunk31 on Oct 31, 2011, 08:23 PM
Not getting into the Tebow discussion, he'll be old news in the next few weeks. I'm more interested in the resurgeance of the Eagles.
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Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Nov 17, 2011, 11:47 PM
Quote from: peafunk31 on Oct 31, 2011, 08:23 PM
Not getting into the Tebow discussion, he'll be old news in the next few weeks. I'm more interested in the resurgeance of the Eagles.
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Yup. Wrong on all accounts. The Eagles stink & Tebow is 4-1. What the F is going on?!?!
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Nov 17, 2011, 11:44 PM
I am really enjoying watching all the naysayers (and there is a ton of Tebow hate from the "professionals" on TV and radio) eat crow. Sort of nice when those in the know don't know. 4-1 by the "worst starting QB in the NFL"? Not bad :)
Tim Tebow Game Winning Touchdown vs. Jets (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rTPXoCpZSM#ws)
Ya know, I'm happy for him, too. I'm not sure how long he can keep it up, but I'm glad he is doing well. I used to not like him until I realized it wasn't really him I didn't like, it was his fanatical fans. And believe me, living in FL, they are abundant. What I think is especially cool is how his team really rallies behind him. I mean, Denver's defense is stepping it up big time. It's clearly not just their offense that's winning these games for them.
Regardless of one's religous views, you can't say he's not a good person. And it's kind of cool to see someone like that do well given the majority of the players' attitudes in the NFL.
Quote from: ophidiophobia on Oct 31, 2011, 03:07 PM
He is terrible. The only thing that keeps him around is that he is a fan favorite. Just goes to show that all the heart and determination can't make him an NFL-level QB.
::)
Quote from: Jon T. on Nov 18, 2011, 09:07 AM
Regardless of one's religous views, you can't say he's not a good person. And it's kind of cool to see someone like that do well given the majority of the players' attitudes in the NFL.
Well said. He's building a 3 million dollar hospital in the Phillipines. I know it's not all his money but I doubt he's making all that much this year.
What a crushing loss for us last night. We still have a favorable schedule and 10-6 likely would get the Jetsies in. Do or die starts next week against the Bills. Our offense is a travesty with Sanchez and Schottenheimer (will be fired at years end) but I think it can turn it around. Our defense, besides David Harris and Darrelle Revis, are a bunch of mediocre players that Ryan has somehow made into a solid unit. I do believe that sometimes Ryan eschews talent in favor of coachable system players with lesser talent on the defensive side.
As for Tebow, it really is a great story. My friends and I have had so much fun rooting for him the last 5 weeks except for yesterday. It is remarkable how much the Denver D has picked it up recently. I guess it's just inevitable that if you run the ball over and over again, the defense gets better. I have no idea why but I guess it has to do with the whole shortening the game, less possessions idea? Like the talking heads have said, the one thing they have going for them is that no one else runs that offense with the option package. It's something other teams never have to prepare for except for that one game. That said, those were some marginal wins in 3 of the last 4. Jets played like ass and Sanchez throws a pick 6 and we still should have won it if at the beginning of the 95 yard game winning drive, Leonhard makes the tackle on Eddie Royal out in the flat.
I should mention that the replay officials and the announcers for that matter got the Burress catch on the sideline call wrong when they called it complete. Yes, both feet did touch in bounds while he had control of the ball. But if you watch it slowly, his left foot touches down, pops up then drags out of bounds a split second before the right foot touches the ground for the 1st time inbounds. Therefore, he's out of bounds but the announcers never mentioned that and I don't think the upstairs booth ever contemplated that possibility.
Tebow isn't going to consistently win games the way they've been using him.
http://espn.go.com/espn/page2/story/_/id/7250435/tim-tebow-inspires-dj-gallo-proclaim-tebowist (http://espn.go.com/espn/page2/story/_/id/7250435/tim-tebow-inspires-dj-gallo-proclaim-tebowist)
Interesting points. Funny. Good read.
Kyle Orton's Farewell to the Denver Broncos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8_buda5vWo#ws)
The NFL seriously needs to rethink the way they schedule Monday night football. Who wants to see San Diego vs. Jax? There have been far more shitty MNF games this year than good ones...so boring! They should make the schedule dynamic, a flex schedule like sunday night football, schedule the first few weeks and then select the games as the season unfolds.
Wow, literally minutes after I made the post above Colin cowherd just said the exact same thing!
Quote from: walterfredo on Dec 06, 2011, 12:00 PM
The NFL seriously needs to rethink the way they schedule Monday night football. Who wants to see San Diego vs. Jax? There have been far more shitty MNF games this year than good ones...so boring! They should make the schedule dynamic, a flex schedule like sunday night football, schedule the first few weeks and then select the games as the season unfolds.
Totally agree, and since Cowherd said it, totally disagree ;). Its one thing to bump a teams game from 1 or 4pm to 8pm a few weeks in advance, but it is a bigger difference to flex a game to monday (likely because they are good) every week for the last 4-8 games of the season. If they flexed monday, I see at least 2-3 teams getting screwed for being good by getting a couple of their games (possibly away games), turned into MNF. If they varied it up enough with the flex,
maybe it would work, but SNF is seemingly the NFC East every other week and the week in between is Brady, Brees, Rodgers, etc...I think they would overdo a MNF flex as well.
Dont get me wrong, Id love to have a great matchup on MNF every week, but doing that IMO would put at least a couple teams at an unfair disadvantage, annually.
Rams at Seahawks tonight, wow...another barn burner. :yawn:
Man oh man what a nutty week! I'm just glad I got Brees playing in a dome next week for one of my fantasy finals. That is of course if I get 5.5 points from Pittsburgh and Vernon Davis tonight.
I wonder what's up with the Packers. Are they getting it out of their system early and are the Saints peaking too early? I keep hearing the same ole, "Yeah but the Saints in Lambeau in the winter" argument. I just don't get it. Yup, it's on the road and cold but I think the Saints have the better D and running game. Who knows? All I know is the playoffs are shaping up to be great in both leagues. San Diego just may backdoor the playoffs again. It's been frustrating watching the Bears blow the season but no one can really doubt the value of Cutler again. He may be a douche but he's a hell of a quarterback. You know how much it hurt Ray Lewis' fragile ego to come back after 4 games off in which the Ravens won all of them, only to get smoked by the Chargers? And finally the Jets. :'( :-\ :embarassed: >:( :(
Saints tied with the 49ers for NFC playoff bye..... :)
gulp....
:-\
Go Steelers! :o
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Last night was glorious. Hopefully we can pull it out tonight.
Quote from: capt. scotty on Dec 19, 2011, 06:32 PM
Last night was glorious. Hopefully we can pull it out tonight.
;) last night was indeed glorious.
Quote from: walterfredo on Dec 20, 2011, 02:22 PM
Quote from: capt. scotty on Dec 19, 2011, 06:32 PM
Last night was glorious. Hopefully we can pull it out tonight.
;) last night was indeed glorious.
More like frustrating, power outages aside...No doubt in my mind that if Roethlisberger was healthy we wouldve won. Really they shouldve of pulled him at halftime because he just couldnt get it done and was forcing passes that resulted in turnovers a few times. Refs were also pretty bad but cant control that.
Quote from: capt. scotty on Dec 20, 2011, 04:13 PM
Quote from: walterfredo on Dec 20, 2011, 02:22 PM
Quote from: capt. scotty on Dec 19, 2011, 06:32 PM
Last night was glorious. Hopefully we can pull it out tonight.
;) last night was indeed glorious.
More like frustrating, power outages aside...No doubt in my mind that if Roethlisberger was healthy we wouldve won. Really they shouldve of pulled him at halftime because he just couldnt get it done and was forcing passes that resulted in turnovers a few times. Refs were also pretty bad but cant control that.
I think that's an extremely bold statement to say the least. The 49ers defense is just insane, they were lights out last night. I'm not going to say they would have won, without a doubt, with Big B at full strength because we'll never really know. What if Pattrick Willis wasn't out of the game...arguably the best LB in the game right now? You can do the what-ifs all day long, but it's the NFL and injuries are part of the game. That said, of course it would have been a much closer game, you can't argue that. Big B had very little mobility, which is typically one of his strengths. I personally wish he was at full strength, just to see how it would have played out. But, to say that without a doubt him not being at full strength caused a 17+ point swing is a bit of a stretch. I will give it him though, the dude is one tough competitor.
^^^ ;D ;D^^^
Did you just respond to the Cap with sound logic and facts Walter? Ha! I've been hearing the same thing all day from Stillers fans here about if Ben was healthy. I will say that Willis' replacement was pretty badass when I was watching. Last night, Baltimore was like San Fran's sister city. Quite the spectacle to see a city band together for a night to become the biggest niners fans right of the bay area.
Quote from: Ruckus on Dec 20, 2011, 04:58 PM
^^^ ;D ;D^^^
Did you just respond to the Cap with sound logic and facts Walter? Ha! I've been hearing the same thing all day from Stillers fans here about if Ben was healthy. I will say that Willis' replacement was pretty badass when I was watching. Last night, Baltimore was like San Fran's sister city. Quite the spectacle to see a city band together for a night to become the biggest niners fans right of the bay area.
I can imagine! Must have been very similar to how I felt in NYC during the T5 run...watching all of NYC cheer on the Giants as they handed it to the Phillies! Good times...good times!
Yes, Grant was a beast last night.
Quote from: walterfredo on Dec 20, 2011, 04:41 PM
Quote from: capt. scotty on Dec 20, 2011, 04:13 PM
Quote from: walterfredo on Dec 20, 2011, 02:22 PM
Quote from: capt. scotty on Dec 19, 2011, 06:32 PM
Last night was glorious. Hopefully we can pull it out tonight.
;) last night was indeed glorious.
More like frustrating, power outages aside...No doubt in my mind that if Roethlisberger was healthy we wouldve won. Really they shouldve of pulled him at halftime because he just couldnt get it done and was forcing passes that resulted in turnovers a few times. Refs were also pretty bad but cant control that.
I think that's an extremely bold statement to say the least. The 49ers defense is just insane, they were lights out last night. I'm not going to say they would have won, without a doubt, with Big B at full strength because we'll never really know. What if Pattrick Willis wasn't out of the game...arguably the best LB in the game right now? You can do the what-ifs all day long, but it's the NFL and injuries are part of the game. That said, of course it would have been a much closer game, you can't argue that. Big B had very little mobility, which is typically one of his strengths. I personally wish he was at full strength, just to see how it would have played out. But, to say that without a doubt him not being at full strength caused a 17+ point swing is a bit of a stretch. I will give it him though, the dude is one tough competitor.
Figured you'd bring up Willis, yet we were also missing Harrison and Pouncey and Woodley re-aggravated his hammy again. Harrison might have given us a chance to get consistent pressure, Pouncey wouldve likely at least made sure Aldon Smith got a hand put on him instead of going untouched thru the middle, but I didnt go there for the reasons you alluded to.
I dont see how
just him being healthy (not even considering the other guys we had injured) is a stretch to think he would overcome a 17pt swing. For one, like you said he had almost no mobility, and with how bad our OL is and good your pass rush is, thats a terrible situation having him back there. Second, it was only 6-3 around 40 minutes thru the game. It could have been a totally different scenario if he were healthy and we were up 17-6 or something at that point (not to mention the bogus penalty on Timmons for leaping that gave you an automatic 1st down and lead to 1 of those TDs). For sure SF's D is very good, but I think Ben's 4 TO's had as much if not more to do with his injury/overcompensating as SF forcing them. He hadn't had more than 1 TO in a game since week 3. Then there are just the game numbers where PIT won nearly across the board: 20 first down to 17, 57% 3rd down conversion to 30%, 102 more total net yards, 3 more minutes time of possession....
It would have been a very, very different game if Roethlisberger was healthy
Maybe if the Steelers' players would have worked harder in the off season and been in better overall condition, they wouldn't be getting hurt so often (or in Harrison's case...being a dirty player). ;)
Joking aside...it's week 16, EVERY team is riddled with injuries, all of them. Part of the game. The Steelers were outplayed last night, and subsequently lost the game. They weren't the best team last night. Maybe they should have suited up Bradshaw. (I keed....I keed). Steelers fans are sensitive! I guess I've become so insensitive to this type of jarring after a decade of being the joke of the NFC. :thumbsup:
Quote from: walterfredo on Dec 20, 2011, 06:29 PM
Steelers fans are sensitive!
I noticed that too. More like crybabies.
Lighten up for Gods sakes with all your Super Bowl wins. jeeeez....
Quote from: walterfredo on Dec 20, 2011, 06:29 PM
Maybe if the Steelers' players would have worked harder in the off season and been in better overall condition, they wouldn't be getting hurt so often (or in Harrison's case...being a dirty player). ;)
Joking aside...it's week 16, EVERY team is riddled with injuries, all of them. Part of the game. The Steelers were outplayed last night, and subsequently lost the game. They weren't the best team last night. Maybe they should have suited up Bradshaw. (I keed....I keed). Steelers fans are sensitive! I guess I've become so insensitive to this type of jarring after a decade of being the joke of the NFC. :thumbsup:
Thats the thing, I dont think we were outplayed which is why the loss is so frustrating.
On another note, I didnt understand our defensive gameplan at all either. I thought we figured out in the NE game that playing the DBs 10 yds off the line wasnt a good idea for our CBs. I could understand giving that kind of space to great QBs so you dont get beat deep (despite that being proven wrong vs our D), but I have no idea why that was the gameplan when SF's biggest weapon is Davis and it was highly unlikely Smith would be connecting on 30+ yard passes against our D and beat us that way.
Congrats on the win. I hope SF goes to the SB, but I dont see it happening vs a healthy Rodgers, Brees, Stafford, or Romo. They just dont have the offense to have them win that many games in a row against top QBs/offenses. It will help out a lot if they hold onto HFA and only have to play 2 games before the SB
Quote from: capt. scotty on Dec 20, 2011, 11:54 PM
Quote from: walterfredo on Dec 20, 2011, 06:29 PM
Maybe if the Steelers' players would have worked harder in the off season and been in better overall condition, they wouldn't be getting hurt so often (or in Harrison's case...being a dirty player). ;)
Joking aside...it's week 16, EVERY team is riddled with injuries, all of them. Part of the game. The Steelers were outplayed last night, and subsequently lost the game. They weren't the best team last night. Maybe they should have suited up Bradshaw. (I keed....I keed). Steelers fans are sensitive! I guess I've become so insensitive to this type of jarring after a decade of being the joke of the NFC. :thumbsup:
Thats the thing, I dont think we were outplayed which is why the loss is so frustrating.
On another note, I didnt understand our defensive gameplan at all either. I thought we figured out in the NE game that playing the DBs 10 yds off the line wasnt a good idea for our CBs. I could understand giving that kind of space to great QBs so you dont get beat deep (despite that being proven wrong vs our D), but I have no idea why that was the gameplan when SF's biggest weapon is Davis and it was highly unlikely Smith would be connecting on 30+ yard passes against our D and beat us that way.
Congrats on the win. I hope SF goes to the SB, but I dont see it happening vs a healthy Rodgers, Brees, Stafford, or Romo. They just dont have the offense to have them win that many games in a row against top QBs/offenses. It will help out a lot if they hold onto HFA and only have to play 2 games before the SB
I think there should be a breakdown of all games where a team that lost by 17 points but should have won. That's what was soooo frustrating about the Cardinals/Steelers Super Bowl. The Steelers didn't deserve it. The Cardinals outplayed them but the undeserving team won and their fans should not be allowed to enjoy that victory because it was the Cardinals problems that made them lose and not the Steelers playmaking ability.
Quote from: Ruckus on Dec 21, 2011, 09:29 AM
Quote from: capt. scotty on Dec 20, 2011, 11:54 PM
Quote from: walterfredo on Dec 20, 2011, 06:29 PM
Maybe if the Steelers' players would have worked harder in the off season and been in better overall condition, they wouldn't be getting hurt so often (or in Harrison's case...being a dirty player). ;)
Joking aside...it's week 16, EVERY team is riddled with injuries, all of them. Part of the game. The Steelers were outplayed last night, and subsequently lost the game. They weren't the best team last night. Maybe they should have suited up Bradshaw. (I keed....I keed). Steelers fans are sensitive! I guess I've become so insensitive to this type of jarring after a decade of being the joke of the NFC. :thumbsup:
Thats the thing, I dont think we were outplayed which is why the loss is so frustrating.
On another note, I didnt understand our defensive gameplan at all either. I thought we figured out in the NE game that playing the DBs 10 yds off the line wasnt a good idea for our CBs. I could understand giving that kind of space to great QBs so you dont get beat deep (despite that being proven wrong vs our D), but I have no idea why that was the gameplan when SF's biggest weapon is Davis and it was highly unlikely Smith would be connecting on 30+ yard passes against our D and beat us that way.
Congrats on the win. I hope SF goes to the SB, but I dont see it happening vs a healthy Rodgers, Brees, Stafford, or Romo. They just dont have the offense to have them win that many games in a row against top QBs/offenses. It will help out a lot if they hold onto HFA and only have to play 2 games before the SB
I think there should be a breakdown of all games where a team that lost by 17 points but should have won. That's what was soooo frustrating about the Cardinals/Steelers Super Bowl. The Steelers didn't deserve it. The Cardinals outplayed them but the undeserving team won and their fans should not be allowed to enjoy that victory because it was the Cardinals problems that made them lose and not the Steelers playmaking ability.
Well, that and Tom Brady got hurt that season. No doubt in my mind that if Brady was healthy the Pats would have gone to the Super Bowl and won by 17 points.
Ruckus and Tracy, you guys bring the laughs! (and you're both right).
Capt., I totally agree with you on the niners and their likelihood of going for the long haul. As a life long hardcore fan (I scream at the TV so loud my neighbors 3 houses away can hear it!) I know they're not going to pull it off, barring some insane luck and happenstance. It [normally] takes an elite/better than average QB to go all the way (that is unless you're Dilfer and the Ravens) to win the SB. I've been fairly pessimistic all year, and still am to some degree. Although, I've fully bought into their D, and you know how that goes (again, see the Dilfer/Ravens team). Alex Smith is NOT the guy, he sucks. He missed 2 ridiculously wide open TD passes on Monday, he's pathetic in the red zone. But, I'm still enjoying this miraculous turn around, and it's made this season palatable to me, where as the last several years, 75% of the games I've turned off at half time while screaming profanities at the TV. So at least my anxiety is down to a tolerable level. It would take a freaking miracle to get past the Pack.
I think we could've won with a healthy Ben, it was a close game throughout for the most part and a bad call on that field goal put it out of reach (I didn't know it was illegal to try and block a field goal, nothing indicated to me that he tried to elevate himself by leaping up on another player). San Francisco has a Super Bowl caliber D, but the Alex Smith led offense didn't impress me, with the exception of Vernon Davis.
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Dec 21, 2011, 09:38 AM
Quote from: Ruckus on Dec 21, 2011, 09:29 AM
Quote from: capt. scotty on Dec 20, 2011, 11:54 PM
Quote from: walterfredo on Dec 20, 2011, 06:29 PM
Maybe if the Steelers' players would have worked harder in the off season and been in better overall condition, they wouldn't be getting hurt so often (or in Harrison's case...being a dirty player). ;)
Joking aside...it's week 16, EVERY team is riddled with injuries, all of them. Part of the game. The Steelers were outplayed last night, and subsequently lost the game. They weren't the best team last night. Maybe they should have suited up Bradshaw. (I keed....I keed). Steelers fans are sensitive! I guess I've become so insensitive to this type of jarring after a decade of being the joke of the NFC. :thumbsup:
Thats the thing, I dont think we were outplayed which is why the loss is so frustrating.
On another note, I didnt understand our defensive gameplan at all either. I thought we figured out in the NE game that playing the DBs 10 yds off the line wasnt a good idea for our CBs. I could understand giving that kind of space to great QBs so you dont get beat deep (despite that being proven wrong vs our D), but I have no idea why that was the gameplan when SF's biggest weapon is Davis and it was highly unlikely Smith would be connecting on 30+ yard passes against our D and beat us that way.
Congrats on the win. I hope SF goes to the SB, but I dont see it happening vs a healthy Rodgers, Brees, Stafford, or Romo. They just dont have the offense to have them win that many games in a row against top QBs/offenses. It will help out a lot if they hold onto HFA and only have to play 2 games before the SB
I think there should be a breakdown of all games where a team that lost by 17 points but should have won. That's what was soooo frustrating about the Cardinals/Steelers Super Bowl. The Steelers didn't deserve it. The Cardinals outplayed them but the undeserving team won and their fans should not be allowed to enjoy that victory because it was the Cardinals problems that made them lose and not the Steelers playmaking ability.
Well, that and Tom Brady got hurt that season. No doubt in my mind that if Brady was healthy the Pats would have gone to the Super Bowl and won by 17 points.
So what's Brady's excuse for not winning the Super Bowl the last 2 seasons? ;)
Quote from: Ruckus on Dec 21, 2011, 09:29 AM
Quote from: capt. scotty on Dec 20, 2011, 11:54 PM
Quote from: walterfredo on Dec 20, 2011, 06:29 PM
Maybe if the Steelers' players would have worked harder in the off season and been in better overall condition, they wouldn't be getting hurt so often (or in Harrison's case...being a dirty player). ;)
Joking aside...it's week 16, EVERY team is riddled with injuries, all of them. Part of the game. The Steelers were outplayed last night, and subsequently lost the game. They weren't the best team last night. Maybe they should have suited up Bradshaw. (I keed....I keed). Steelers fans are sensitive! I guess I've become so insensitive to this type of jarring after a decade of being the joke of the NFC. :thumbsup:
Thats the thing, I dont think we were outplayed which is why the loss is so frustrating.
On another note, I didnt understand our defensive gameplan at all either. I thought we figured out in the NE game that playing the DBs 10 yds off the line wasnt a good idea for our CBs. I could understand giving that kind of space to great QBs so you dont get beat deep (despite that being proven wrong vs our D), but I have no idea why that was the gameplan when SF's biggest weapon is Davis and it was highly unlikely Smith would be connecting on 30+ yard passes against our D and beat us that way.
Congrats on the win. I hope SF goes to the SB, but I dont see it happening vs a healthy Rodgers, Brees, Stafford, or Romo. They just dont have the offense to have them win that many games in a row against top QBs/offenses. It will help out a lot if they hold onto HFA and only have to play 2 games before the SB
I think there should be a breakdown of all games where a team that lost by 17 points but should have won. That's what was soooo frustrating about the Cardinals/Steelers Super Bowl. The Steelers didn't deserve it. The Cardinals outplayed them but the undeserving team won and their fans should not be allowed to enjoy that victory because it was the Cardinals problems that made them lose and not the Steelers playmaking ability.
I didnt realize Warner had a high ankle sprain in that game, or major lower body injury that would hinder his ability to play to capacity. I realize you jest, but still.
Also, like I said before, the game was 6-3 around 40 minutes thru...Doors got blown off late with bad penalty calls and big plays due to what I said earlier- DBs playing way too far off the line
Quote from: walterfredo on Dec 21, 2011, 11:39 AM
Capt., I totally agree with you on the niners and their likelihood of going for the long haul. As a life long hardcore fan (I scream at the TV so loud my neighbors 3 houses away can hear it!) I know they're not going to pull it off, barring some insane luck and happenstance. It [normally] takes an elite/better than average QB to go all the way (that is unless you're Dilfer and the Ravens) to win the SB. I've been fairly pessimistic all year, and still am to some degree. Although, I've fully bought into their D, and you know how that goes (again, see the Dilfer/Ravens team). Alex Smith is NOT the guy, he sucks. He missed 2 ridiculously wide open TD passes on Monday, he's pathetic in the red zone. But, I'm still enjoying this miraculous turn around, and it's made this season palatable to me, where as the last several years, 75% of the games I've turned off at half time while screaming profanities at the TV. So at least my anxiety is down to a tolerable level. It would take a freaking miracle to get past the Pack.
I think they have a shot at the SB, and it would be much better if they were in the AFC, but they still are a team to contend with. Their D is definitely Top 3 this year, and their ability to force TO's somewhat counters the very good QBs they will face in the playoffs. I think the key to them going far is the defense but even moreso relies on the the redzone D, limiting to FGs, winning time of possession, etc. If SF gets down 14-21pts in the 1st half and Gore is rendered useless, it doesnt bode well against their likely opponents. If they can limit GB, NO, etc, and feed the ball to Gore and Hunter periodically, I think their chances significantly improve. And again, holding onto HFA over NO I think is pivotal for them.
Im actually rooting for DET more than any NFC, but SF is right behind them. I wouldnt mind a rematch vs SF or GB, if ya know what I mean ;)
Quote from: capt. scotty on Dec 22, 2011, 12:17 AM
Quote from: Ruckus on Dec 21, 2011, 09:29 AM
Quote from: capt. scotty on Dec 20, 2011, 11:54 PM
Quote from: walterfredo on Dec 20, 2011, 06:29 PM
Maybe if the Steelers' players would have worked harder in the off season and been in better overall condition, they wouldn't be getting hurt so often (or in Harrison's case...being a dirty player). ;)
Joking aside...it's week 16, EVERY team is riddled with injuries, all of them. Part of the game. The Steelers were outplayed last night, and subsequently lost the game. They weren't the best team last night. Maybe they should have suited up Bradshaw. (I keed....I keed). Steelers fans are sensitive! I guess I've become so insensitive to this type of jarring after a decade of being the joke of the NFC. :thumbsup:
Thats the thing, I dont think we were outplayed which is why the loss is so frustrating.
On another note, I didnt understand our defensive gameplan at all either. I thought we figured out in the NE game that playing the DBs 10 yds off the line wasnt a good idea for our CBs. I could understand giving that kind of space to great QBs so you dont get beat deep (despite that being proven wrong vs our D), but I have no idea why that was the gameplan when SF's biggest weapon is Davis and it was highly unlikely Smith would be connecting on 30+ yard passes against our D and beat us that way.
Congrats on the win. I hope SF goes to the SB, but I dont see it happening vs a healthy Rodgers, Brees, Stafford, or Romo. They just dont have the offense to have them win that many games in a row against top QBs/offenses. It will help out a lot if they hold onto HFA and only have to play 2 games before the SB
I think there should be a breakdown of all games where a team that lost by 17 points but should have won. That's what was soooo frustrating about the Cardinals/Steelers Super Bowl. The Steelers didn't deserve it. The Cardinals outplayed them but the undeserving team won and their fans should not be allowed to enjoy that victory because it was the Cardinals problems that made them lose and not the Steelers playmaking ability.
I didnt realize Warner had a high ankle sprain in that game, or major lower body injury that would hinder his ability to play to capacity. I realize you jest, but still.
Also, like I said before, the game was 6-3 around 40 minutes thru...Doors got blown off late with bad penalty calls and big plays due to what I said earlier- DBs playing way too far off the line
;D ;D ;D
Any more excuses? I call it the Mcnair syndrome. We all celebrate the physical, mobile qb that can make plays under duress and fight off would be sacks to make key plays to keep plays alive or even better, win games in the clutch. Hooray! The consequence of playing that way continually is to get hit after hit after hit. That is the nature of football. Hence, they have a shorter and more inconsistent shelf life. What made Roethlisberger a good qb in the NFL (plus a great defense) is the reason for his early downfall. You make excuses for him now but subjecting himself to that beating is the reason that he was successful. That doesn't work long run. Now the smart, accurate qbs ala Manning, Brady, Rodgers, Brees...they don't take hits and so don't have to make excuses. Give and take. He sacrificed to be good enough because he wasn't as a quick release, intelligent and accurate quarterback. You can't have it both ways. He's now broken and something tells me the best is behind him.
As for Warner....KIDDING! What if the Ravens fans continually made excuses for last year's playoff loss. They had every reason to because they outplayed the shit out of the Steelers. That's football. We can all make ridiculous claims about why we should have won. Suck it up and take it for once.
Quote from: Ruckus on Dec 22, 2011, 01:17 AM
Any more excuses? I call it the Mcnair syndrome. We all celebrate the physical, mobile qb that can make plays under duress and fight off would be sacks to make key plays to keep plays alive or even better, win games in the clutch. Hooray! The consequence of playing that way continually is to get hit after hit after hit. That is the nature of football. Hence, they have a shorter and more inconsistent shelf life. What made Roethlisberger a good qb in the NFL (plus a great defense) is the reason for his early downfall. You make excuses for him now but subjecting himself to that beating is the reason that he was successful. That doesn't work long run. Now the smart, accurate qbs ala Manning, Brady, Rodgers, Brees...they don't take hits and so don't have to make excuses. Give and take. He sacrificed to be good enough because he wasn't as a quick release, intelligent and accurate quarterback. You can't have it both ways. He's now broken and something tells me the best is behind him.
Seriously, youre going with that?! He has the 2nd most passing yards and 3rd most TDs of his career already this year, but he is no longer a great QB and is toast and I should prepare for his downfall :D ;D
And saying his capacity to play was significantly limited last week and likely cost PIT a win <> making excuses for his style of play/getting injured. Indy doesnt have Manning this year, how are they doing? When Brady went down, NE still made the playoffs but I dont think they won a game there. If Brees has a broken finger, would NO have beat SF on MNF? Also, I would like to see the smart, accurate QBs play their style behind the ramshackle OL Roethlisberger has had much of his career. Rodgers is the only one that I think could survive behind it annually.
But whatever, here's to hoping he's healthy for the playoffs. Im kind of shocked theyre saying he's going to play saturday vs STL.
Quote from: capt. scotty on Dec 22, 2011, 03:22 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Dec 22, 2011, 01:17 AM
Any more excuses? I call it the Mcnair syndrome. We all celebrate the physical, mobile qb that can make plays under duress and fight off would be sacks to make key plays to keep plays alive or even better, win games in the clutch. Hooray! The consequence of playing that way continually is to get hit after hit after hit. That is the nature of football. Hence, they have a shorter and more inconsistent shelf life. What made Roethlisberger a good qb in the NFL (plus a great defense) is the reason for his early downfall. You make excuses for him now but subjecting himself to that beating is the reason that he was successful. That doesn't work long run. Now the smart, accurate qbs ala Manning, Brady, Rodgers, Brees...they don't take hits and so don't have to make excuses. Give and take. He sacrificed to be good enough because he wasn't as a quick release, intelligent and accurate quarterback. You can't have it both ways. He's now broken and something tells me the best is behind him.
Seriously, youre going with that?! He has the 2nd most passing yards and 3rd most TDs of his career already this year, but he is no longer a great QB and is toast and I should prepare for his downfall :D ;D
And saying his capacity to play was significantly limited last week and likely cost PIT a win <> making excuses for his style of play/getting injured. Indy doesnt have Manning this year, how are they doing? When Brady went down, NE still made the playoffs but I dont think they won a game there. If Brees has a broken finger, would NO have beat SF on MNF? Also, I would like to see the smart, accurate QBs play their style behind the ramshackle OL Roethlisberger has had much of his career. Rodgers is the only one that I think could survive behind it annually.
But whatever, here's to hoping he's healthy for the playoffs. Im kind of shocked theyre saying he's going to play saturday vs STL.
I agree with you on Ben, if Ruckus took some time to actually do some research he would see he's having a great year. It just so happens he hasn't played great in prime time this year witch is probably what he's basing it on. I would think he's a lock for the number 2 spot in the Pro Bowl this year.
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Quote from: capt. scotty on Dec 22, 2011, 03:22 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Dec 22, 2011, 01:17 AM
Any more excuses? I call it the Mcnair syndrome. We all celebrate the physical, mobile qb that can make plays under duress and fight off would be sacks to make key plays to keep plays alive or even better, win games in the clutch. Hooray! The consequence of playing that way continually is to get hit after hit after hit. That is the nature of football. Hence, they have a shorter and more inconsistent shelf life. What made Roethlisberger a good qb in the NFL (plus a great defense) is the reason for his early downfall. You make excuses for him now but subjecting himself to that beating is the reason that he was successful. That doesn't work long run. Now the smart, accurate qbs ala Manning, Brady, Rodgers, Brees...they don't take hits and so don't have to make excuses. Give and take. He sacrificed to be good enough because he wasn't as a quick release, intelligent and accurate quarterback. You can't have it both ways. He's now broken and something tells me the best is behind him.
Seriously, youre going with that?! He has the 2nd most passing yards and 3rd most TDs of his career already this year, but he is no longer a great QB and is toast and I should prepare for his downfall :D ;D
And saying his capacity to play was significantly limited last week and likely cost PIT a win <> making excuses for his style of play/getting injured. Indy doesnt have Manning this year, how are they doing? When Brady went down, NE still made the playoffs but I dont think they won a game there. If Brees has a broken finger, would NO have beat SF on MNF? Also, I would like to see the smart, accurate QBs play their style behind the ramshackle OL Roethlisberger has had much of his career. Rodgers is the only one that I think could survive behind it annually.
But whatever, here's to hoping he's healthy for the playoffs. Im kind of shocked theyre saying he's going to play saturday vs STL.
I agree with you on Ben, if Ruckus took some time to actually do some research he would see he's having a great year. It just so happens he hasn't played great in prime time this year witch is probably what he's basing it on. I would think he's a lock for the number 2 spot in the Pro Bowl this year.
;D ;D ;D
You guys are too easy. C'mon! I don't do empirical research yo. I spit knowledge from the gut.
Yeah he's got an awesome 3/2 TD/INT ratio and his QB rating is 6th lowest out of his 8 seasons played. I get to hear it every day from my girlfriend who has Ben on one of her teams and loses her shit every week. Primetime? I get the Sunday Ticket and Redzone. But hey that's not the point. I'm not talking about numbers. I'm talking about long term dependability and the compromise that'll need to be made in the coming years. He won't be able to play 16 games if he keeps playing the way "BIG BEN PLAYS" And then what is his true value. It's like saying Marc Bulger was real good...when he played. It's cool. You guys love him. I respect him.
What number does he wear anyways? 17?
EDIT: He has become a much better pocket passer through the years and I think he still has at least a few good years left in him. I'm just not sure he can stay healthy and if he does, it will be because he had to change his style of play.
5,087!
A great night to be a Saints fan!
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Good stuff Tracy. An opposing quarterback that I have no problem rooting for.
Back to figuring out how the Jets will acquire Peyton Manning
Quote from: Ruckus on Dec 29, 2011, 11:39 AM
Good stuff Tracy. An opposing quarterback that I have no problem rooting for.
Back to figuring out how the Jets will acquire Peyton Manning
Well.... according to an interview earlier this week, Rexy said Sanchez is his guy and he would not take any other QB in the league over him - including Manning. ::)
Quote from: Jon T. on Dec 29, 2011, 11:51 AM
Quote from: Ruckus on Dec 29, 2011, 11:39 AM
Good stuff Tracy. An opposing quarterback that I have no problem rooting for.
Back to figuring out how the Jets will acquire Peyton Manning
Well.... according to an interview earlier this week, Rexy said Sanchez is his guy and he would not take any other QB in the league over him - including Manning. ::)
I mean would you? The only other qb I'd take over Sanchez right now is a healthy Big Ben.
Quote from: Ruckus on Dec 29, 2011, 03:34 PM
Quote from: Jon T. on Dec 29, 2011, 11:51 AM
Quote from: Ruckus on Dec 29, 2011, 11:39 AM
Good stuff Tracy. An opposing quarterback that I have no problem rooting for.
Back to figuring out how the Jets will acquire Peyton Manning
Well.... according to an interview earlier this week, Rexy said Sanchez is his guy and he would not take any other QB in the league over him - including Manning. ::)
I mean would you? The only other qb I'd take over Sanchez right now is a healthy Big Ben.
yep. A healthy Rolthiesleburger. I hear that if he plays this weekend against the Browns that the line will jump from 7 to 17 (if he is healthy). Or is it 24?
an unhelthy Rothliesesbergerer (-17; actually prolly more like 17 Over)
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a healthy Batch is plus 7
this is a young Charlie Batch from his college days at eastern MiChigan. He sort of looks like tone-loc
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Quote from: Ruckus on Dec 29, 2011, 03:34 PM
Quote from: Jon T. on Dec 29, 2011, 11:51 AM
Quote from: Ruckus on Dec 29, 2011, 11:39 AM
Good stuff Tracy. An opposing quarterback that I have no problem rooting for.
Back to figuring out how the Jets will acquire Peyton Manning
Well.... according to an interview earlier this week, Rexy said Sanchez is his guy and he would not take any other QB in the league over him - including Manning. ::)
I mean would you? The only other qb I'd take over Sanchez right now is a healthy Big Ben.
I would take almost half of the league's starting QB's over Sanchez.
Quote from: ManNamedTruth on Dec 30, 2011, 12:51 AM
Quote from: Ruckus on Dec 29, 2011, 03:34 PM
Quote from: Jon T. on Dec 29, 2011, 11:51 AM
Quote from: Ruckus on Dec 29, 2011, 11:39 AM
Good stuff Tracy. An opposing quarterback that I have no problem rooting for.
Back to figuring out how the Jets will acquire Peyton Manning
Well.... according to an interview earlier this week, Rexy said Sanchez is his guy and he would not take any other QB in the league over him - including Manning. ::)
I mean would you? The only other qb I'd take over Sanchez right now is a healthy Big Ben.
I would take almost half of the league's starting QB's over Sanchez.
Poppycock!
Should be a fun weekend eh guys?
So I've been sleeping with my stuffed Tebow doll, the one where he has a halo. I got him positioned right now where he is stuffing his cotton balls in my Roethlisberger voodoo doll's face as he puts needles in Big Ben's ankle. There's some really weird energy flowing through my doll collection right now.
Currently:
Houston -3
New Orleans -10.5
Giants -3
Steelers -9
Any thoughts? I find all the lines to be rather tough so I think I'll stay away from all of them.
If I had to choose, I may lean towards all the favorites. No clue
Quote from: Ruckus on Jan 06, 2012, 08:26 AM
Should be a fun weekend eh guys?
So I've been sleeping with my stuffed Tebow doll, the one where he has a halo. I got him positioned right now where he is stuffing his cotton balls in my Roethlisberger voodoo doll's face as he puts needles in Big Ben's ankle. There's some really weird energy flowing through my doll collection right now.
Currently:
Houston -3
New Orleans -10.5
Giants -3
Steelers -9
Any thoughts? I find all the lines to be rather tough so I think I'll stay away from all of them.
If I had to choose, I may lean towards all the favorites. No clue
You can reroute the energy in your doll collection with a nice lavender spray from Target or burn Oreo cookies (make sure the white part gets burned too b/c you don't want to release just the Yin, it would be catastrophic and I can guarantee your Chi would suffer and get all out of whack; maybe even wiggity). We Saints fans always work the dolls:
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_bC1tYl3yzyk/SqpYfDiw8TI/AAAAAAAABGM/a4LXjX8ET_g/s320/lions_voodoo_doll)
I think the 2 upsets could be in Houston and NY. The Giants have been either good or bad this year and the Texans are, well, the Texans (but so are the Bungles). I think the Steelers are favored by 9 b/c the Broncos probably won't score. I was suprised to see the Saints at 10.5 but if they get rolling early I think the Lions will fold with all the young blood on their team. We need to put 6 guys on Megatron (I love that guy!). Turnovers, turnovers, turnovers...
A little more on the Bungles-Texans game. This just sort of came to me while I was cleaning the kitchen last night: Though the Bengals and Texans have played only six times, Cincinnati's rivalry against teams from Houston spans 62 games. The total includes 57 meetings between the Bengals and the Oilers (now Tennessee Titans). Those 57 games were split evenly, 28-28-1. The Bengals' combined record against Houston teams is 31-31-1, including a 1990 playoff game won by the Bengals 41-14, which is the franchise's last postseason win.
This will be the 15th postseason game in Bengals history and the fifth road game. The Bengals are 6-8 overall and 0-4 in road games but this will be the first road game since Jan. 13, 1991, when they lost 20-10 to the Los Angeles Raiders. The Bengals' other playoff road games were losses to the Colts (1970), Dolphins ('73) and Raiders (in Oakland in '75).
Rudi Johnson's 43 rushing attempts against the Texans in 2003 is a Bengals record. It is tied for the second-most carries in NFL history and tied for the most carries in a non-overtime game. The only player with more carries was Washington's Jamie Morris, who rushed 45 times in an overtime game against the Bengals on Dec. 17, 1988. Johnson had 183 yards in that game, which was won by the Bengals 34-27.
In 2002 at Houston, cornerback Artrell Hawkins returned an interception 102 yards for a TD. That's tied for the longest play in team history. Louis Breeden had a 102-yard interception return at San Diego in 1981 and Eric Bieniemy had a 102-yard kickoff return at the N.Y. Giants in 1997.
Andy Dalton is the 10th rookie quarterback to lead his team to the playoffs.
In wild-card round games, they are 3-3.
Marvin Lewis, in his ninth season as head coach, has risen to third in the NFL in longest current tenure with one team. He trails only Andy Reid of Philadelphia (13th season) and Bill Belichick of New England (12th).
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jan 06, 2012, 09:49 AM
Quote from: Ruckus on Jan 06, 2012, 08:26 AM
Should be a fun weekend eh guys?
So I've been sleeping with my stuffed Tebow doll, the one where he has a halo. I got him positioned right now where he is stuffing his cotton balls in my Roethlisberger voodoo doll's face as he puts needles in Big Ben's ankle. There's some really weird energy flowing through my doll collection right now.
Currently:
Houston -3
New Orleans -10.5
Giants -3
Steelers -9
Any thoughts? I find all the lines to be rather tough so I think I'll stay away from all of them.
If I had to choose, I may lean towards all the favorites. No clue
You can reroute the energy in your doll collection with a nice lavender spray from Target or burn Oreo cookies (make sure the white part gets burned too b/c you don't want to release just the Yin, it would be catastrophic and I can guarantee your Chi would suffer and get all out of whack; maybe even wiggity). We Saints fans always work the dolls:
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_bC1tYl3yzyk/SqpYfDiw8TI/AAAAAAAABGM/a4LXjX8ET_g/s320/lions_voodoo_doll)
I think the 2 upsets could be in Houston and NY. The Giants have been either good or bad this year and the Texans are, well, the Texans (but so are the Bungles). I think the Steelers are favored by 9 b/c the Broncos probably won't score. I was suprised to see the Saints at 10.5 but if they get rolling early I think the Lions will fold with all the young blood on their team. We need to put 6 guys on Megatron (I love that guy!). Turnovers, turnovers, turnovers...
A little more on the Bungles-Texans game. This just sort of came to me while I was cleaning the kitchen last night: Though the Bengals and Texans have played only six times, Cincinnati's rivalry against teams from Houston spans 62 games. The total includes 57 meetings between the Bengals and the Oilers (now Tennessee Titans). Those 57 games were split evenly, 28-28-1. The Bengals' combined record against Houston teams is 31-31-1, including a 1990 playoff game won by the Bengals 41-14, which is the franchise's last postseason win.
This will be the 15th postseason game in Bengals history and the fifth road game. The Bengals are 6-8 overall and 0-4 in road games but this will be the first road game since Jan. 13, 1991, when they lost 20-10 to the Los Angeles Raiders. The Bengals' other playoff road games were losses to the Colts (1970), Dolphins ('73) and Raiders (in Oakland in '75).
Rudi Johnson's 43 rushing attempts against the Texans in 2003 is a Bengals record. It is tied for the second-most carries in NFL history and tied for the most carries in a non-overtime game. The only player with more carries was Washington's Jamie Morris, who rushed 45 times in an overtime game against the Bengals on Dec. 17, 1988. Johnson had 183 yards in that game, which was won by the Bengals 34-27.
In 2002 at Houston, cornerback Artrell Hawkins returned an interception 102 yards for a TD. That's tied for the longest play in team history. Louis Breeden had a 102-yard interception return at San Diego in 1981 and Eric Bieniemy had a 102-yard kickoff return at the N.Y. Giants in 1997.
Andy Dalton is the 10th rookie quarterback to lead his team to the playoffs.
In wild-card round games, they are 3-3.
Marvin Lewis, in his ninth season as head coach, has risen to third in the NFL in longest current tenure with one team. He trails only Andy Reid of Philadelphia (13th season) and Bill Belichick of New England (12th).
You failed to mention that in the opening game of the 2010 season, Arian Foster became the first Houston Texans player ever to rush for more than 200 yards in a game. He finished the game with 33 carries for 231 yards and three touchdowns.
Looks like you ned to brush up on your facts! ;D
Quote from: Jon T. on Jan 06, 2012, 10:05 AM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jan 06, 2012, 09:49 AM
Quote from: Ruckus on Jan 06, 2012, 08:26 AM
Should be a fun weekend eh guys?
So I've been sleeping with my stuffed Tebow doll, the one where he has a halo. I got him positioned right now where he is stuffing his cotton balls in my Roethlisberger voodoo doll's face as he puts needles in Big Ben's ankle. There's some really weird energy flowing through my doll collection right now.
Currently:
Houston -3
New Orleans -10.5
Giants -3
Steelers -9
Any thoughts? I find all the lines to be rather tough so I think I'll stay away from all of them.
If I had to choose, I may lean towards all the favorites. No clue
You can reroute the energy in your doll collection with a nice lavender spray from Target or burn Oreo cookies (make sure the white part gets burned too b/c you don't want to release just the Yin, it would be catastrophic and I can guarantee your Chi would suffer and get all out of whack; maybe even wiggity). We Saints fans always work the dolls:
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_bC1tYl3yzyk/SqpYfDiw8TI/AAAAAAAABGM/a4LXjX8ET_g/s320/lions_voodoo_doll)
I think the 2 upsets could be in Houston and NY. The Giants have been either good or bad this year and the Texans are, well, the Texans (but so are the Bungles). I think the Steelers are favored by 9 b/c the Broncos probably won't score. I was suprised to see the Saints at 10.5 but if they get rolling early I think the Lions will fold with all the young blood on their team. We need to put 6 guys on Megatron (I love that guy!). Turnovers, turnovers, turnovers...
A little more on the Bungles-Texans game. This just sort of came to me while I was cleaning the kitchen last night: Though the Bengals and Texans have played only six times, Cincinnati's rivalry against teams from Houston spans 62 games. The total includes 57 meetings between the Bengals and the Oilers (now Tennessee Titans). Those 57 games were split evenly, 28-28-1. The Bengals' combined record against Houston teams is 31-31-1, including a 1990 playoff game won by the Bengals 41-14, which is the franchise's last postseason win.
This will be the 15th postseason game in Bengals history and the fifth road game. The Bengals are 6-8 overall and 0-4 in road games but this will be the first road game since Jan. 13, 1991, when they lost 20-10 to the Los Angeles Raiders. The Bengals' other playoff road games were losses to the Colts (1970), Dolphins ('73) and Raiders (in Oakland in '75).
Rudi Johnson's 43 rushing attempts against the Texans in 2003 is a Bengals record. It is tied for the second-most carries in NFL history and tied for the most carries in a non-overtime game. The only player with more carries was Washington's Jamie Morris, who rushed 45 times in an overtime game against the Bengals on Dec. 17, 1988. Johnson had 183 yards in that game, which was won by the Bengals 34-27.
In 2002 at Houston, cornerback Artrell Hawkins returned an interception 102 yards for a TD. That's tied for the longest play in team history. Louis Breeden had a 102-yard interception return at San Diego in 1981 and Eric Bieniemy had a 102-yard kickoff return at the N.Y. Giants in 1997.
Andy Dalton is the 10th rookie quarterback to lead his team to the playoffs.
In wild-card round games, they are 3-3.
Marvin Lewis, in his ninth season as head coach, has risen to third in the NFL in longest current tenure with one team. He trails only Andy Reid of Philadelphia (13th season) and Bill Belichick of New England (12th).
You failed to mention that in the opening game of the 2010 season, Arian Foster became the first Houston Texans player ever to rush for more than 200 yards in a game. He finished the game with 33 carries for 231 yards and three touchdowns.
Looks like you ned to brush up on your facts! ;D
Sorry, I was just spitting from the gut
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jan 06, 2012, 10:13 AM
Quote from: Jon T. on Jan 06, 2012, 10:05 AM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jan 06, 2012, 09:49 AM
Quote from: Ruckus on Jan 06, 2012, 08:26 AM
Should be a fun weekend eh guys?
So I've been sleeping with my stuffed Tebow doll, the one where he has a halo. I got him positioned right now where he is stuffing his cotton balls in my Roethlisberger voodoo doll's face as he puts needles in Big Ben's ankle. There's some really weird energy flowing through my doll collection right now.
Currently:
Houston -3
New Orleans -10.5
Giants -3
Steelers -9
Any thoughts? I find all the lines to be rather tough so I think I'll stay away from all of them.
If I had to choose, I may lean towards all the favorites. No clue
You can reroute the energy in your doll collection with a nice lavender spray from Target or burn Oreo cookies (make sure the white part gets burned too b/c you don't want to release just the Yin, it would be catastrophic and I can guarantee your Chi would suffer and get all out of whack; maybe even wiggity). We Saints fans always work the dolls:
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_bC1tYl3yzyk/SqpYfDiw8TI/AAAAAAAABGM/a4LXjX8ET_g/s320/lions_voodoo_doll)
I think the 2 upsets could be in Houston and NY. The Giants have been either good or bad this year and the Texans are, well, the Texans (but so are the Bungles). I think the Steelers are favored by 9 b/c the Broncos probably won't score. I was suprised to see the Saints at 10.5 but if they get rolling early I think the Lions will fold with all the young blood on their team. We need to put 6 guys on Megatron (I love that guy!). Turnovers, turnovers, turnovers...
A little more on the Bungles-Texans game. This just sort of came to me while I was cleaning the kitchen last night: Though the Bengals and Texans have played only six times, Cincinnati's rivalry against teams from Houston spans 62 games. The total includes 57 meetings between the Bengals and the Oilers (now Tennessee Titans). Those 57 games were split evenly, 28-28-1. The Bengals' combined record against Houston teams is 31-31-1, including a 1990 playoff game won by the Bengals 41-14, which is the franchise's last postseason win.
This will be the 15th postseason game in Bengals history and the fifth road game. The Bengals are 6-8 overall and 0-4 in road games but this will be the first road game since Jan. 13, 1991, when they lost 20-10 to the Los Angeles Raiders. The Bengals' other playoff road games were losses to the Colts (1970), Dolphins ('73) and Raiders (in Oakland in '75).
Rudi Johnson's 43 rushing attempts against the Texans in 2003 is a Bengals record. It is tied for the second-most carries in NFL history and tied for the most carries in a non-overtime game. The only player with more carries was Washington's Jamie Morris, who rushed 45 times in an overtime game against the Bengals on Dec. 17, 1988. Johnson had 183 yards in that game, which was won by the Bengals 34-27.
In 2002 at Houston, cornerback Artrell Hawkins returned an interception 102 yards for a TD. That's tied for the longest play in team history. Louis Breeden had a 102-yard interception return at San Diego in 1981 and Eric Bieniemy had a 102-yard kickoff return at the N.Y. Giants in 1997.
Andy Dalton is the 10th rookie quarterback to lead his team to the playoffs.
In wild-card round games, they are 3-3.
Marvin Lewis, in his ninth season as head coach, has risen to third in the NFL in longest current tenure with one team. He trails only Andy Reid of Philadelphia (13th season) and Bill Belichick of New England (12th).
You failed to mention that in the opening game of the 2010 season, Arian Foster became the first Houston Texans player ever to rush for more than 200 yards in a game. He finished the game with 33 carries for 231 yards and three touchdowns.
Looks like you ned to brush up on your facts! ;D
Sorry, I was just spitting from the gut
Marvin Lewis looks more like Charlie Batch than George Washington Carver
Sidenote - I actually worked the Fox stat truck at a Texans/Redskins game. I was responsible for live updates of YAC and turnovers and any other odd stat. Got in on the TV that it was the 1st Redskins game ever where two RB's went over a hundred yards in the same game. DOn't even know if that was true. Ladell Betts and Kenny Watson. That's right, they picked up social workers off the street like me and put me in the stat truck. That is some intense, high energy work! I had to sit in the trunk of a Jeep Cherokee so we could race Steve Tasker and Don Criqui to the train station in DC on time after the game. They got a raging police escort. Criqui was a dick but Tasker actually apologized to me for having to sit in the trunk.
I'm going to the Giants/Falcons game on Sun! It's my first NFL game in years.
Quote from: Penny Lane on Jan 06, 2012, 11:12 AM
I'm going to the Giants/Falcons game on Sun! It's my first NFL game in years.
inspired by the thrill of playoff football no doubt! ;)
stay warm and have fun!
Quote from: Ruckus on Jan 06, 2012, 10:32 AM
Sidenote - I actually worked the Fox stat truck at a Texans/Redskins game. I was responsible for live updates of YAC and turnovers and any other odd stat. Got in on the TV that it was the 1st Redskins game ever where two RB's went over a hundred yards in the same game. DOn't even know if that was true. Ladell Betts and Kenny Watson. That's right, they picked up social workers off the street like me and put me in the stat truck. That is some intense, high energy work! I had to sit in the trunk of a Jeep Cherokee so we could race Steve Tasker and Don Criqui to the train station in DC on time after the game. They got a raging police escort. Criqui was a dick but Tasker actually apologized to me for having to sit in the trunk.
Googles "raging police escort"
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Quote from: Penny Lane on Jan 06, 2012, 11:12 AM
I'm going to the Giants/Falcons game on Sun! It's my first NFL game in years.
Have fun, and since you'll miss him tonight at Carnegie Hall.........
While in the New York Metropolitan area for an appearance at Preservation Hall's 50th Anniversary Celebration at Carnegie Hall, Troy "Trombone Shorty" Andrews will make a stop at East Rutherford, NJ's new MetLife Stadium. The New Orleans prodigy will perform a "soulful rendition" of the National Anthem this Sunday, January 8. The New York Giants will then face the Atlanta Falcons in the NFL playoffs. Trombone Shorty will then board Jam Cruise for a series of performances.
GO GIANTS!!
Quote from: ericm on Jan 07, 2012, 11:45 AM
Quote from: Penny Lane on Jan 06, 2012, 11:12 AM
I'm going to the Giants/Falcons game on Sun! It's my first NFL game in years.
Have fun, and since you'll miss him tonight at Carnegie Hall.........
While in the New York Metropolitan area for an appearance at Preservation Hall's 50th Anniversary Celebration at Carnegie Hall, Troy "Trombone Shorty" Andrews will make a stop at East Rutherford, NJ's new MetLife Stadium. The New Orleans prodigy will perform a "soulful rendition" of the National Anthem this Sunday, January 8. The New York Giants will then face the Atlanta Falcons in the NFL playoffs. Trombone Shorty will then board Jam Cruise for a series of performances.
GO GIANTS!!
Nice! Maybe a little of the Big Easy vibe on scene will stir something in Eli's blood.
TeBro v RosinBroger
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(http://dappered.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/BigBen2.jpg)
I like the Steelers to run away with this one but maybe there's one more run of Tebow magic.
Great games by the Saints and Texans yesterday. Whatever happens, next week's matchups are setting up nicely.
Tim Tebow and Broncos Vs. Steelers (Carl's Lock) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSs-sCWJJSo#ws)
Watcha know about the Dirty Bird?
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G-MEN!!!
You can't compete with Jesus.
(is Tebow sponsored my American eagle?)
Quote from: Ruckus on Jan 08, 2012, 11:28 AM
TeBro v RosinBroger
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(http://dappered.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/BigBen2.jpg)
I like the Steelers to run away with this one but maybe there's one more run of Tebow magic.
Great games by the Saints and Texans yesterday. Whatever happens, next week's matchups are setting up nicely.
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Quote from: j_rud on Jan 08, 2012, 10:07 PM
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Haha. ;D
probably better for steelers fan to be humiliated in Denver rather than humiliated in Foxboro.
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jan 08, 2012, 10:36 PM
probably better for steelers fan to be humiliated in Denver rather than humiliated in Foxboro.
Humiliated by a team in Foxboro the Steelers beat this year already??? ;D
Funny thing is, this is the first time in a long time Im not sad or disappointed the Steelers year is over...With a gimpy Ben, gimpy Woodley, injured Pouncey, and then this game Keisel, Hampton, Starks go down, there's no way we could beat all of the offensively talented teams ahead of us the next 3 games. Im actually kind of happy because IMO we had almost no shot but have a draft pick around 5 slots higher.
Quote from: j_rud on Jan 08, 2012, 10:07 PM
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Is Vick coming back next year? I cant wait for his and DJax bounce back years
Quote from: capt. scotty on Jan 09, 2012, 04:50 AM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jan 08, 2012, 10:36 PM
probably better for steelers fan to be humiliated in Denver rather than humiliated in Foxboro.
Humiliated by a team in Foxboro the Steelers beat this year already??? ;D
Funny thing is, this is the first time in a long time Im not sad or disappointed the Steelers year is over...With a gimpy Ben, gimpy Woodley, injured Pouncey, and then this game Keisel, Hampton, Starks go down, there's no way we could beat all of the offensively talented teams ahead of us the next 3 games. Im actually kind of happy because IMO we had almost no shot but have a draft pick around 5 slots higher.
Really? steelers couldn't beat the offensive juggernaut that is Tebow and Denver, so you now have the insight that they probably wouldn't have been able to beat 3 more offensively talented teams and win the Super Bowl? i.e. you would have been humiliated in Foxboro (you are actually making my point for me). :)
Stick to cutting and pasting your answers here scotty, it makes you seem more knowledgable. ;)
Tim Tebow - "All He Does Is Win" (via ESPN First Take) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StvHZjL5zbU#ws)
Seriously WF ;D As if I need any more ways for Tebow to crack me up, the new TeBro fashion line is straight hilarious! Keep 'em coming Timmy.
Tim Tebow - ALL I DO IS WIN (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNC8xRo9vXY#ws)
Another little Tebow nugget:
Tim Tebow's favorite bible verse is John 3:16. Yesterday, he threw for 316 yards, and averaged 31.6 yards per completion, and it was a guy named John who told him to pull the trigger. :D
I'm going to try, and not read too much into that, but I've got to admit it's got me scratching my head a bit.
Quote from: capt. scotty on Jan 09, 2012, 04:52 AM
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Is Vick coming back next year? I cant wait for his and DJax bounce back years
I really hope so. Atlanta-era Vick and a 160lb prima donna wideout who's afraid to play inside the numbers sounds good to me. They cant possibly look at Vick as the franchise QB after this season. He proved yet again that he can't stay healthy and he took a step back throwing the ball. I respect Reid and think they'll always contend for the division as long as he's around, but if they don't make McCoy the focal point of that offense they're fools.
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turnovers, turnovers, turnovers... :'(
Graham's TD the last minute or so was amazing, but our D finally started breaking down and couldn't hold.
One thing I don't understand was the no call on the helmet to helmet hit on Pierre Thomas on our 1st drive. Not just the no call, but it was never even mentioned as "possibly" a helmet to helmet and no one ever said why Thomas was out other than being injured. Clearly a helmet to helmet and clearly why he went out of the game (and fumbeled). If that had been James Harrison who hit Thomas he probably would have been arrested. I dunno, the whole thing is a bit weird, especially with all the emphasis that put on that new rule.
Oh well, maybe next year we don't fuck up on the road and we can secure homefield for a bye. Gotta go with the Giants and Broncos (or Ravens).
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jan 14, 2012, 09:04 PM
turnovers, turnovers, turnovers... :'(
Graham's TD the last minute or so was amazing, but our D finally started breaking down and couldn't hold.
One thing I don't understand was the no call on the helmet to helmet hit on Pierre Thomas on our 1st drive. Not just the no call, but it was never even mentioned as "possibly" a helmet to helmet and no one ever said why Thomas was out other than being injured. Clearly a helmet to helmet and clearly why he went out of the game (and fumbeled). If that had been James Harrison who hit Thomas he probably would have been arrested. I dunno, the whole thing is a bit weird, especially with all the emphasis that put on that new rule.
Oh well, maybe next year we don't fuck up on the road and we can secure homefield for a bye. Gotta go with the Giants and Broncos (or Ravens).
What happened on the play in question? How was Thomas being used. I ask because it determines whether its a penalty. Helmet to helmet is only called on a QB who has not declared himself a runner or a defenseless receiver who is attempting/in the act of catching the ball. Its not called on RBs or WRs who have completed a catch and are attempting to gain yardage. So if Thomas was being used as a RB and helmet to helmet contact as made during the tackle its a legal play. Its only a penalty if he was making a catch/defenseless and was hit helmet to helmet.
Quote from: j_rud on Jan 14, 2012, 09:35 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jan 14, 2012, 09:04 PM
turnovers, turnovers, turnovers... :'(
Graham's TD the last minute or so was amazing, but our D finally started breaking down and couldn't hold.
One thing I don't understand was the no call on the helmet to helmet hit on Pierre Thomas on our 1st drive. Not just the no call, but it was never even mentioned as "possibly" a helmet to helmet and no one ever said why Thomas was out other than being injured. Clearly a helmet to helmet and clearly why he went out of the game (and fumbeled). If that had been James Harrison who hit Thomas he probably would have been arrested. I dunno, the whole thing is a bit weird, especially with all the emphasis that put on that new rule.
Oh well, maybe next year we don't fuck up on the road and we can secure homefield for a bye. Gotta go with the Giants and Broncos (or Ravens).
What happened on the play in question? How was Thomas being used. I ask because it determines whether its a penalty. Helmet to helmet is only called on a QB who has not declared himself a runner or a defenseless receiver who is attempting/in the act of catching the ball. Its not called on RBs or WRs who have completed a catch and are attempting to gain yardage. So if Thomas was being used as a RB and helmet to helmet contact as made during the tackle its a legal play. Its only a penalty if he was making a catch/defenseless and was hit helmet to helmet.
Thomas had caught the ball and turned to run upfield.
Rule 12, Section 2, Article 8 (f) of the NFL Official Playing Rules states that it is unnecessary roughness if a player uses any part of his helmet (including the top/crown and forehead/"hairline" parts) or facemask to butt, spear, or ram an opponent violently or unnecessarily.
Open to interpretation, I know, but to be totally ignored was strange. I mean, not even discussed at any point when it was obvious Thomas was knocked out by helmet to helmet contact.
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Quote from: j_rud on Jan 14, 2012, 09:35 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jan 14, 2012, 09:04 PM
turnovers, turnovers, turnovers... :'(
Graham's TD the last minute or so was amazing, but our D finally started breaking down and couldn't hold.
One thing I don't understand was the no call on the helmet to helmet hit on Pierre Thomas on our 1st drive. Not just the no call, but it was never even mentioned as "possibly" a helmet to helmet and no one ever said why Thomas was out other than being injured. Clearly a helmet to helmet and clearly why he went out of the game (and fumbeled). If that had been James Harrison who hit Thomas he probably would have been arrested. I dunno, the whole thing is a bit weird, especially with all the emphasis that put on that new rule.
Oh well, maybe next year we don't fuck up on the road and we can secure homefield for a bye. Gotta go with the Giants and Broncos (or Ravens).
What happened on the play in question? How was Thomas being used. I ask because it determines whether its a penalty. Helmet to helmet is only called on a QB who has not declared himself a runner or a defenseless receiver who is attempting/in the act of catching the ball. Its not called on RBs or WRs who have completed a catch and are attempting to gain yardage. So if Thomas was being used as a RB and helmet to helmet contact as made during the tackle its a legal play. Its only a penalty if he was making a catch/defenseless and was hit helmet to helmet.
Thomas had caught the ball and turned to run upfield.
Rule 12, Section 2, Article 8 (f) of the NFL Official Playing Rules states that it is unnecessary roughness if a player uses any part of his helmet (including the top/crown and forehead/"hairline" parts) or facemask to butt, spear, or ram an opponent violently or unnecessarily.
Open to interpretation, I know, but to be totally ignored was strange. I mean, not even discussed at any point when it was obvious Thomas was knocked out by helmet to helmet contact.
I thought it was strange that it wasn't really mentioned, too. That was a scary situation. Thomas was out cold instantly, then bascially goes head first to the ground, THEN a loose ball pile on top of him for a minute or so. Imagine coming to and being under a pile like that. Scary stuff.
A good day for Pat's fans but the win was damn near embarrassing. Look forward to seeing who's next. Tough one for you Saints fans. An amazing final 4 minutes.
The pats win was almost too good to celebrate. I'm not on the Tebow wagon so I was happy to see that
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jan 14, 2012, 09:44 PM
Quote from: j_rud on Jan 14, 2012, 09:35 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jan 14, 2012, 09:04 PM
turnovers, turnovers, turnovers... :'(
Graham's TD the last minute or so was amazing, but our D finally started breaking down and couldn't hold.
One thing I don't understand was the no call on the helmet to helmet hit on Pierre Thomas on our 1st drive. Not just the no call, but it was never even mentioned as "possibly" a helmet to helmet and no one ever said why Thomas was out other than being injured. Clearly a helmet to helmet and clearly why he went out of the game (and fumbeled). If that had been James Harrison who hit Thomas he probably would have been arrested. I dunno, the whole thing is a bit weird, especially with all the emphasis that put on that new rule.
Oh well, maybe next year we don't fuck up on the road and we can secure homefield for a bye. Gotta go with the Giants and Broncos (or Ravens).
What happened on the play in question? How was Thomas being used. I ask because it determines whether its a penalty. Helmet to helmet is only called on a QB who has not declared himself a runner or a defenseless receiver who is attempting/in the act of catching the ball. Its not called on RBs or WRs who have completed a catch and are attempting to gain yardage. So if Thomas was being used as a RB and helmet to helmet contact as made during the tackle its a legal play. Its only a penalty if he was making a catch/defenseless and was hit helmet to helmet.
Thomas had caught the ball and turned to run upfield.
Rule 12, Section 2, Article 8 (f) of the NFL Official Playing Rules states that it is unnecessary roughness if a player uses any part of his helmet (including the top/crown and forehead/"hairline" parts) or facemask to butt, spear, or ram an opponent violently or unnecessarily.
Open to interpretation, I know, but to be totally ignored was strange. I mean, not even discussed at any point when it was obvious Thomas was knocked out by helmet to helmet contact.
And thats the absolutely infuriating problem with NFL officiating: its too often open to interpretation or when its not an official acts like it is. Add in the fact that different crews from week to week guarantee inconsistency. I feel like every year officials become a bigger part of the game when it should be the opposite.
I dunno, I sort of like rooting for the Texans against the Ravens. But there's no way they go in to Foxboro and win. So, go Ravens! I think... :-\
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I dunno, I sort of like rooting for the Texans against the Ravens. But there's no way they go in to Foxboro and win. So, go Ravens! I think... :-\
Ive always felt like cheering for the Ravens is like cheering for the villain. But that could just be because Ray Lewis and Co. treated the Giants O like an Atlanta night club patron in Super Bowl 35...
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Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jan 15, 2012, 02:32 PM
I dunno, I sort of like rooting for the Texans against the Ravens. But there's no way they go in to Foxboro and win. So, go Ravens! I think... :-\
Ive always felt like cheering for the Ravens is like cheering for the villain. But that could just be because Ray Lewis and Co. treated the Giants O like an Atlanta night club patron in Super Bowl 35...
I'm an NFC guy, so it's hard to have any AFC love (except the Titans), that's why the underdogs are so appealing.
I hope the Ravens torch Brady and the Pats.
Now let's go Giants!
Well, the refs TRIED to get the Packers to win....man oh man, did the Saints ever blow an opportunity to host next weekend.
Gotta root for Eli and the Giants.
I beginning to smell a rematch...
Do I smell a Patriots, Giants Super Bowl rematch? The Ravens are the only team I hate more than the Pats, so I'll be rooting for whoever comes out of the NFC.
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I beginning to smell a rematch...
just what I was thinking ;D
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I beginning to smell a rematch...
yep, 2001 all over again with the Giants vs Ravens ;)
giants fan here.
FUCK YES
also, this weekend was awesome. the 9ers looked great. i look forward to facing them. that was one of the best games ive seen evah. yup, i said EVAH
the ravens looked shitty as all hell against a shitty playoff team today. the pats should rape them next weekend. but we'll see.
looks like the pats have a free ticket to the big game, BUT i feel like either nfc team can beat them.
GO NFC
eh
My team. Coming to my town. Most excited I've been ... since .... say ... MMJ coming to my town! Booyah!
Quote from: zanjam on Jan 15, 2012, 09:27 PM
My team. Coming to my town. Most excited I've been ... since .... say ... MMJ coming to my town! Booyah!
That would be the Jints coming to SF
VICTORY FORMATION BABY ;D
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Now that Teblow and Rodgers have been unceremoniously booted from the playoffs, can ESPN stop riding their dicks? I'm so sick of hearing about both. I really cannot stand either. I have a life long hatred of Green Bay anyway so whoever is their QB by law I will hate.
OK, nearly 2 days later, some clarity around the Pierre Thomas hit:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AmhWl382ktP4W0jlacWC0l9DubYF?slug=ap-saints-thomashit (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AmhWl382ktP4W0jlacWC0l9DubYF?slug=ap-saints-thomashit)
And as we saw yesterday when Umenyiora was called for a blow to the head on Rodgers (one of the worst BS calls I have ever seen), a lot of this depends on how the ref "sees" it.
No sour grapes though, the Saints had their chance and just didn't bring their A game.
Here's to the G-Men and Ravens this Sunday!
I'm stoked for Niner fans. That was a phenomenal win after some lean years, and now they get to host the Championship Game. It'll be interesting to see how Alex Smith proceeds from here - he's been a goat for so long, but after a good season and two career-defining, playoff drives, we'll see if he can continue his success, and also find out what his legacy as a Niner will end up being. ESPN would've loved making endless Smith/Rodgers comparisons if the Packers had won their game, would've filled a whole week of programming with them. ;D
SF/NYG should be a great game!
Is there another Harbaugh brother that the Raiders can hire? Damn...Their mom must be proud!
Quote from: johnnYYac on Jan 15, 2012, 01:07 AM
A good day for Pat's fans but the win was damn near embarrassing. Look forward to seeing who's next. Tough one for you Saints fans. An amazing final 4 minutes.
It was a great day Johnny! Ravens batting up next. I feel a possible 18-1 Payback Giant's Superbowl. One game at a time of course but.... ;D
Quote from: joey_rogo on Jan 15, 2012, 08:23 PM
giants fan here.
FUCK YES
Oh hello! Great time to be a Giants fan! What an amazing game. I still can't believe they nailed that hail mary. My dog was afraid of me and hiding in a corner from all of the screaming going on. My neighbors must hate me lol.
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Quote from: joey_rogo on Jan 15, 2012, 08:23 PM
giants fan here.
FUCK YES
Oh hello! Great time to be a Giants fan! What an amazing game. I still can't believe they nailed that hail mary. My dog was afraid of me and hiding in a corner from all of the screaming going on. My neighbors must hate me lol.
Haha.
We had my son's place rocking pretty good too. I'm glad it's the only house on the block people live in all year round, cause we would've had some po'd neighbors. Joint was jumping!
We had a chance to go to the game, but passed because we're both real superstitious when it comes to our sports teams. :D We had to be exactly where we were when they won the Atlanta game. Same friends,food, drinks, Jerseys,baloons, you name it..... ;D I wanted to host next week but no way are we changing anything!! ;)
Here's hoping we get to rock that house two more times!! :beer:
GOOOOO GIANTS!!
what's with all these giants fanners around here? May the G-men experience a long and depressing flight back home Sunday night. ;)
I'll be trying for tix on Wednesday, it will not be an easy task.
As a Cowboys fan I pretty much hate whomever the representative from the NFC will be. And growing up south of Cleveland, I'm not the biggest Ravens fan either. As a Michigan fan, it won't be hard at all to pull for Tom Brady and the Pats to bring home Brady's fourth ring!!! :beer:
Quote from: walterfredo on Jan 16, 2012, 06:01 PM
what's with all these giants fanners around here? May the G-men experience a long and depressing flight back home Sunday night. ;)
I'll be trying for tix on Wednesday, it will not be an easy task.
Good luck on the ticket trying Walter. That's the only luck I'll be wishing you this week though! ;D
Got a good Ole Miss battle this weekend in the Bay:
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What an odd and at times crazy thrilling weekend of football. I'm sorry bout the Saints Trace, Nova and Sassbox. I was rooting for them but ya gotta be happy for them Niners as well. I love Patrick Willis. Congrats Walter! Yeah, we all noticed how Pierre Thomas was out cold on impact as the play happened, pretty scary stuff. I've never read the rule book but the announcers always mention how once you become a ball carrier, helmet to helmet is all good. Thanks for posting the details of that rule. I knew that was a legit hit but what about the helmet to helmet that Alex Smith took on the next possession, I think by Roman Harper though not sure. It was never mentioned and if that was Brees, Rodgers, Brady, etc., that's an automatic flag. What a finish! All those TO's on the road and the Saints still nearly pulled it out. :o
As for the Giants/Packers, the Giants just earned it. I feel bad for Rodgers who played his guts out and receivers just flat out failed him. That was the worst hail mary defense ever, though I understand that the Packers had to defend the quick out as well in the event that the Giants were trying to get into field goal range. On the great play by Umenyiora causing the fumble on Rodgers, good thing or that was 6 points for the Pack. Overall, the front 4 didn't wreak as much havoc on Rodgers as I expected but the Giants D was still money. I'm just glad the Hakeem Nicks has gotten the pub he deserves as the best Giants receiver after being overshadowed by little salsa for much of the season.
And for all those folks who think the Pats/Ravens is a slam dunk, I'd be hesitant. The Ravens never look pretty but they were 6-0 against playoff teams this year (Steelers, Niners, Bengals and Texans). The Pats were 1-2 with losses against the Giants and Steelers and their lone win against the Broncos. I'd also argue that this Ravens team is more balanced and experienced than the one that showed up in Foxboro 2 years ago. Sure the Patriots can blow anyone out at home but I know the line was set at around 7 instead of 4 solely based on this past weekend's performances. I believe Flacco will surprise some people with his ability to move the ball in the air this coming weekend.
Quote from: Ruckus on Jan 16, 2012, 10:35 PM
And for all those folks who think the Pats/Ravens is a slam dunk, I'd be hesitant. The Ravens never look pretty but they were 6-0 against playoff teams this year (Steelers, Niners, Bengals and Texans). The Pats were 1-2 with losses against the Giants and Steelers and their lone win against the Broncos. I'd also argue that this Ravens team is more balanced and experienced than the one that showed up in Foxboro 2 years ago. Sure the Patriots can blow anyone out at home but I know the line was set at around 7 instead of 4 solely based on this past weekend's performances. I believe Flacco will surprise some people with his ability to move the ball in the air this coming weekend.
I am with you on this home skillet. Who did New England beat all year?
Look for Torrey Smith to have a career day against a suspect Patsy secondary, #31 in the NFL this year (1 behind the Saints and next to the Pack for last).
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Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jan 16, 2012, 11:56 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Jan 16, 2012, 10:35 PM
And for all those folks who think the Pats/Ravens is a slam dunk, I'd be hesitant. The Ravens never look pretty but they were 6-0 against playoff teams this year (Steelers, Niners, Bengals and Texans). The Pats were 1-2 with losses against the Giants and Steelers and their lone win against the Broncos. I'd also argue that this Ravens team is more balanced and experienced than the one that showed up in Foxboro 2 years ago. Sure the Patriots can blow anyone out at home but I know the line was set at around 7 instead of 4 solely based on this past weekend's performances. I believe Flacco will surprise some people with his ability to move the ball in the air this coming weekend.
I am with you on this home skillet. Who did New England beat all year?
Look for Torrey Smith to have a career day against a suspect Patsy secondary, #31 in the NFL this year (1 behind the Saints and next to the Pack for last).
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Yeah, it's pretty crazy to think that you win 12 games and only one came against a playoff team, one that many would argue was the worst team to make the playoffs. The Ravens have been a Jekyll and Hyde team on the road this year, going only 4-4. I think both teams will be able to move the ball and that the Ravens will hit a big play or two down the field. Most important will be obviously pressuring Brady and whether the Ravens can keep the Pats, particularly Gronk, out of the end zone. You know they will move the ball between the 20s at will. Ravens do have a tall, long corner in Jimmy Smith and fast linebackers in McClain and Ellerbe. It'll be curious to see how they try to bracket Gronk or if they'll just play straight up.
Quote from: youngjohn12 on Jan 18, 2012, 10:19 AM
my special elephants were going to spank some bitches this period. their preventive range looks like it just got out of jail after 10years. nothing more frightening than a number of enormous dark-colored folks with no wish other than bursting you. if stafford doesn't separate we could create it to the superbowl.
Sticky, did someone slip you some bad acid?
I see the Ravens losing to the Giants in the Superbowl.
Quote from: walterfredo on Jan 16, 2012, 06:01 PM
what's with all these giants fanners around here? May the G-men experience a long and depressing flight back home Sunday night. ;)
I'll be trying for tix on Wednesday, it will not be an easy task.
Any luck Walter? I saw they were gone on TM, but there's a lot of tix on the ticket exchange site. Of course it might take selling a kidney to buy a pair. ;) Well, they're actually not THAT high, but I saw some in the $400.00 range!
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Quote from: walterfredo on Jan 16, 2012, 06:01 PM
what's with all these giants fanners around here? May the G-men experience a long and depressing flight back home Sunday night. ;)
I'll be trying for tix on Wednesday, it will not be an easy task.
Any luck Walter? I saw they were gone on TM, but there's a lot of tix on the ticket exchange site. Of course it might take selling a kidney to buy a pair. ;) Well, they're actually not THAT high, but I saw some in the $400.00 range!
no luck. I actually realized my son has baseball tryouts on Sunday so I wouldn't be going to the game anyhow, but I did try for a buddy. Just like the week before I was on it the second it struck 1 pm and there was nothing.
The NFL fan in me is hoping for a G-Men/Cheaters rematch, but Im expecting a NYG/BAL Super Bowl come tomorrow. Alex Smith is doing his best Eli impression, but I dont see him pulling it off again, and as great as SF D has been this year, I think the NYG D is playing even better right now.
AFC is more of a wild card, Patriots just seem like a paper champion though.
And despite them being in the same division, Id rather see the Ravens advance than the Patsies. I respect Baltimore much more than the Cheaters.
Quote from: capt. scotty on Jan 22, 2012, 03:41 AM
The NFL fan in me is hoping for a G-Men/Cheaters rematch, but Im expecting a NYG/BAL Super Bowl come tomorrow. Alex Smith is doing his best Eli impression, but I dont see him pulling it off again, and as great as SF D has been this year, I think the NYG D is playing even better right now.
AFC is more of a wild card, Patriots just seem like a paper champion though.
And despite them being in the same division, Id rather see the Ravens advance than the Patsies. I respect Baltimore much more than the Cheaters.
I definitely agree that I like both road dogs today in close games though I'd like to see a HarBowl.
GO GIANTS!!
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :beer:
I'm a Giants fan as well and bet money for them to win the Superbowl before the season started so I am really pulling for them.
Regardless I think these playoffs have been the best in quite a while. Every game has been great. I think New England vs Giants in Superbowl and Giants taking it.
I bet on the giants to take it prior to the play offs. I'm not a fan of any of the remainings so I'm Pulling for the team thatll get me the most cash
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Quote from: lil sis on Jan 16, 2012, 04:55 PM
Quote from: joey_rogo on Jan 15, 2012, 08:23 PM
giants fan here.
FUCK YES
Oh hello! Great time to be a Giants fan! What an amazing game. I still can't believe they nailed that hail mary. My dog was afraid of me and hiding in a corner from all of the screaming going on. My neighbors must hate me lol.
Haha.
We had my son's place rocking pretty good too. I'm glad it's the only house on the block people live in all year round, cause we would've had some po'd neighbors. Joint was jumping!
We had a chance to go to the game, but passed because we're both real superstitious when it comes to our sports teams. :D We had to be exactly where we were when they won the Atlanta game. Same friends,food, drinks, Jerseys,baloons, you name it..... ;D I wanted to host next week but no way are we changing anything!! ;)
Here's hoping we get to rock that house two more times!! :beer:
GOOOOO GIANTS!!
Hahaha. Sounds like a fun par-tay. Have fun today if you do it again.
LET'S GO BIG BLUE!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: lil sis on Jan 22, 2012, 12:36 PM
Quote from: ericm on Jan 16, 2012, 05:46 PM
Quote from: lil sis on Jan 16, 2012, 04:55 PM
Quote from: joey_rogo on Jan 15, 2012, 08:23 PM
giants fan here.
FUCK YES
Oh hello! Great time to be a Giants fan! What an amazing game. I still can't believe they nailed that hail mary. My dog was afraid of me and hiding in a corner from all of the screaming going on. My neighbors must hate me lol.
Haha.
We had my son's place rocking pretty good too. I'm glad it's the only house on the block people live in all year round, cause we would've had some po'd neighbors. Joint was jumping!
We had a chance to go to the game, but passed because we're both real superstitious when it comes to our sports teams. :D We had to be exactly where we were when they won the Atlanta game. Same friends,food, drinks, Jerseys,baloons, you name it..... ;D I wanted to host next week but no way are we changing anything!! ;)
Here's hoping we get to rock that house two more times!! :beer:
GOOOOO GIANTS!!
Hahaha. Sounds like a fun par-tay. Have fun today if you do it again.
LET'S GO BIG BLUE!!!!!!!!!
If? :o ;)
It was a real fun par-tay, and we're definitely doing it again today! ;D
Have fun today too, and enjoy the game. :beer:
GOOOO GIANTS!!
I love the Giants but being a northern Cali girl I gotta say GO NINERS!
Looks like I'll be outnumbered on this forum but...
GO PATS!!!
Quote from: johnnYYac on Jan 22, 2012, 11:09 PM
Looks like I'll be outnumbered on this forum but...
GO PATS!!!
Eli vs Brady II, in Peyton's House no less. Should be a great one. Here's to hoping an overwhelming Giants pass rush once again deprives Brady and Belichick of another ring.
Also, hats off to the Niners D. That front 7 is relentless and ferocious. Eli got the snot knocked out of him today but he proved yet again that his Gump-ish exterior belies a core of tempered steel.
Man, as a Saints fan I thought our loss last weekend was rough, but Raven fan must be miserable about now.
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jan 22, 2012, 11:38 PM
Man, as a Saints fan I thought our loss last weekend was rough, but Raven fan must be miserable about now.
I'd much rather the Ravens won today. Brady is playing out of his mind right now and as a friend of mine put it "You see him on the sidelines and he just looks pissed off. He has this look in his eyes like hes hate-fucking the entire league".
Quote from: j_rud on Jan 22, 2012, 11:57 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jan 22, 2012, 11:38 PM
Man, as a Saints fan I thought our loss last weekend was rough, but Raven fan must be miserable about now.
I'd much rather the Ravens won today. Brady is playing out of his mind right now and as a friend of mine put it "You see him on the sidelines and he just looks pissed off. He has this look in his eyes like hes hate-fucking the entire league".
I gotta disagree about Brady playing well. 2 picks today and a QB rating of 57.5 (compared to Flaccos 95.4)
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jan 23, 2012, 12:31 AM
Quote from: j_rud on Jan 22, 2012, 11:57 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jan 22, 2012, 11:38 PM
Man, as a Saints fan I thought our loss last weekend was rough, but Raven fan must be miserable about now.
I'd much rather the Ravens won today. Brady is playing out of his mind right now and as a friend of mine put it "You see him on the sidelines and he just looks pissed off. He has this look in his eyes like hes hate-fucking the entire league".
I gotta disagree about Brady playing well. 2 picks today and a QB rating of 57.5 (compared to Flaccos 95.4)
Nah, he didnt play a great game today, but he's still Tom Brady. Odds of it happening 2 weeks in a row probably aint real great. Who'd you rather play in the SB, Flacco or Brady?
And FWIW, I think traditional QB rating is a garbage stat. Ridiculously flawed formula.
WOW!
Never would've thought the special teams would win this game for the Giants.
Total team effort, and loved how tough the O, and D both played, but if you told me before the game that specials would be the difference in the game, I would have said the 9'ers win.
Championship effort all around, and GOOO GIANTS!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :beer:
Quote from: ericm on Jan 23, 2012, 01:24 AM
WOW!
Never would've thought the special teams would win this game for the Giants.
Total team effort, and loved how tough the O, and D both played, but if you told me before the game that specials would be the difference in the game, I would have said the 9'ers win.
Championship effort all around, and GOOO GIANTS!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :beer:
Great game! I was able to find a stream of it....lil sis must be so happy, too!
as a big patriots fan, i couldnt be happier. you guys don' t know how hard i had it yesterday being a Patriots in Raven land.
One more game!!
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jan 23, 2012, 12:31 AM
Quote from: j_rud on Jan 22, 2012, 11:57 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jan 22, 2012, 11:38 PM
Man, as a Saints fan I thought our loss last weekend was rough, but Raven fan must be miserable about now.
I'd much rather the Ravens won today. Brady is playing out of his mind right now and as a friend of mine put it "You see him on the sidelines and he just looks pissed off. He has this look in his eyes like hes hate-fucking the entire league".
I gotta disagree about Brady playing well. 2 picks today and a QB rating of 57.5 (compared to Flaccos 95.4)
Yeah, it wasn't just the Ravens D yesterday. Brady really played poorly, particularly for his standards. Ravens played an excellent game and came up just short. You can imagine what it's like over here. I drove over to a friends house right after the Ravens game and I was just trying to get there in one piece ;D
Sure, Cundiff is being killed here but so is Lee Evans. The play that bugged me the most was Cam Cameron's call on the 3rd and 3 on around the 32-33 yard line which would have been in Cundiff's range. Either throw for the 1st down or have a traditional run. The inside handoff/draw to Rice from shotgun with Wilfork penetrating the way he was all game was a disaster and took 'em out of field goal range. Then they fail on 4th and 6. As someone rooting for the Ravens, it was Cameron's play call that was frustrating (no different than the rest of the season)
Wilfork was simply a man possessed and the Ravens had no answer. He regularly split double teams and Matt Birk is just too old. Andre Gurode would have been nice.
As for Brady, he's an interesting case. He won all his Super Bowls when they had a great defense and running game where he made clutch plays. When they transitioned over to the shotgun/spread offense and is offensive numbers exploded, he kinda became a mediocre playoff quarterback. He destroys inferior opposition aka Broncos, but 4 of his last 5 playoff games have been nothing special. It was really a team effort by the Patriots.
Quote from: Jane on Jan 23, 2012, 09:33 AM
as a big patriots fan, i couldnt be happier. you guys don' t know how hard i had it yesterday being a Patriots in Raven land.
One more game!!
::)
It must be so hard to be a Patriots fan anywhere
Quote from: Ruckus on Jan 23, 2012, 09:38 AM
Quote from: Jane on Jan 23, 2012, 09:33 AM
as a big patriots fan, i couldnt be happier. you guys don' t know how hard i had it yesterday being a Patriots in Raven land.
One more game!!
::)
It must be so hard to be a Patriots fan anywhere
ha! i was thinking of flying up to boston just to be around people who are excited as i am.
Quote from: Jane on Jan 23, 2012, 11:11 AM
Quote from: Ruckus on Jan 23, 2012, 09:38 AM
Quote from: Jane on Jan 23, 2012, 09:33 AM
as a big patriots fan, i couldnt be happier. you guys don' t know how hard i had it yesterday being a Patriots in Raven land.
One more game!!
::)
It must be so hard to be a Patriots fan anywhere
ha! i was thinking of flying up to boston just to be around people who are excited as i am.
Come on up! New Hampshire is a happy place right now.
What's hard being a Patriots fan is that everyone thinks we've had this high-caliber team so long and its time to pass the torch. But I lived through decades of mediocrity before the Brady era. New England sports fans suffer a lot for our occasional moments of glory.
Also, defending the Pats from folks who still call 'em "cheaters" gets tiring. Let it go.
The fact is, even when Brady is having a bad day, and a team like the Ravens has some solid play, the Pats often find ways to win. In a Brady-free season, they went 11-5. The talent of this team is deep and wide.
Its rarely pretty, and often we benefit from the other team's mistakes, but to players and most fans the Super Bowl is the goal and the Pats have made it again. They deserve a ton more respect than they get.
Quote from: Penny Lane on Jan 23, 2012, 09:24 AM
Quote from: ericm on Jan 23, 2012, 01:24 AM
WOW!
Never would've thought the special teams would win this game for the Giants.
Total team effort, and loved how tough the O, and D both played, but if you told me before the game that specials would be the difference in the game, I would have said the 9'ers win.
Championship effort all around, and GOOO GIANTS!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :beer:
Great game! I was able to find a stream of it....lil sis must be so happy, too!
Jesus fucking christ. What a close game! Last night was no beuno...I had so much anxiety and for sure thought it was over several times. I had two presentations for work this morning and had to begin each by apologizing for the hoarseness in my voice due to my lack of being able to contain my emotions with last night's game. I do not like anything coming down to Tynes but HE DID IT AGAIN. When it counted. A little ironic that the Ravens lost due to a shank and we ended up pulling it off. The superbowl will surely be stressful but if the Giants can get in Brady's head we should be ok. GMEN! LETS GET IT IN!
:beer:
Quote from: johnnYYac on Jan 23, 2012, 11:49 AM
New England sports fans suffer a lot for our occasional moments of glory.
::)
Every major sports franchise in New England has won a title in the past 10 years, with the Pats and Sox winning multiple. Maybe if you posted this in 1999...
You guys win A LOT so that's why people hate. People hate the Patriots, Steelers, Cowboys; it's just part of it. People don't really hate the Saints b/c we have 1 title in 45 years. And we got Katrina sympathy.
However, I agree with you on the "cheaters" thing; that's old and needs to go away. The Pats didn't cheat to reach dynasty status.
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jan 23, 2012, 01:04 PM
Quote from: johnnYYac on Jan 23, 2012, 11:49 AM
New England sports fans suffer a lot for our occasional moments of glory.
::)
Every major sports franchise in New England has won a title in the past 10 years, with the Pats and Sox winning multiple. Maybe if you posted this in 1999...
You guys win A LOT so that's why people hate. People hate the Patriots, Steelers, Cowboys; it's just part of it. People don't really hate the Saints b/c we have 1 title in 45 years. And we got Katrina sympathy.
However, I agree with you on the "cheaters" thing; that's old and needs to go away. The Pats didn't cheat to reach dynasty status.
I hear you. I'm thinking back to my formative years, the 70s and 80s, where only the Celtics were bringing much glory to New England. The Pats in '86 embarrassed themselves in the Superbowl against Chicago, Buckner blew it for the Sox that same year, I believe. So, I feel like we, as fans, stuck with the shit long enough to enjoy what is happening with the Pats. Believe me, during those years we hated the dynasty teams, so I suppose I understand and shouldn't complain. And I feel the pain Saints fans have gone through. This forum is lousy with NY and Pitt fans, so NE is bound to get some hate, I suppose.
Quote from: johnnYYac on Jan 23, 2012, 03:44 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jan 23, 2012, 01:04 PM
Quote from: johnnYYac on Jan 23, 2012, 11:49 AM
New England sports fans suffer a lot for our occasional moments of glory.
::)
Every major sports franchise in New England has won a title in the past 10 years, with the Pats and Sox winning multiple. Maybe if you posted this in 1999...
You guys win A LOT so that's why people hate. People hate the Patriots, Steelers, Cowboys; it's just part of it. People don't really hate the Saints b/c we have 1 title in 45 years. And we got Katrina sympathy.
However, I agree with you on the "cheaters" thing; that's old and needs to go away. The Pats didn't cheat to reach dynasty status.
I hear you. I'm thinking back to my formative years, the 70s and 80s, where only the Celtics were bringing much glory to New England. The Pats in '86 embarrassed themselves in the Superbowl against Chicago, Buckner blew it for the Sox that same year, I believe. So, I feel like we, as fans, stuck with the shit long enough to enjoy what is happening with the Pats. Believe me, during those years we hated the dynasty teams, so I suppose I understand and shouldn't complain. And I feel the pain Saints fans have gone through. This forum is lousy with NY and Pitt fans, so NE is bound to get some hate, I suppose.
C'mon Johnny ;D Color me jealous. Why do you seek respect? All you guys do is win. What more do you want? Of course fans are gonna give you shit. That's the fun of sports. When you compound the Patriots success with Brady's All American pretty boy thingy and Bellichick being a total douche (in our minds), that's a perfect recipe for hatin' for non Pats fans. It's like a Yankee fan complaining about not getting respect while shoving Jeter and Arod in your face every year. In my close to 34 years of existence, neither my football team nor baseball team have made their respective championship finals so yes, I will roll my eyes at the long suffering of New England fans. ;D Also, this team is virtually a new team from the Matt Cassell 11-5 team except for Wilfork, Brady, Mayo, Gostkowski, Law Firm and a few others. How are your new Uggs for men treating you? ;)
Even if the Saints had three Super Bowls over the last decade, I wouldn't hate as much because of course they aren't my division rival but also just because Brees and Payton are just more likable.
This Super Bowl is My Personal Hell II. As the lesser of two evils, just as last time, I'll be rooting for the Giants. :embarassed:
Quote from: Ruckus on Jan 23, 2012, 10:43 PM
This Super Bowl is My Personal Hell II. As the lesser of two evils, just as last time, I'll be rooting for the Giants. :embarassed:
C'mon man, I told you, the sooner you realize there's only one football team in NY the sooner you'll love football. No better time than the present :thumbsup:
And because I can also laugh at my QB, there's this...
(http://gif.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/ELI-MANNING-DANCING.gif)
Quote from: j_rud on Jan 23, 2012, 10:47 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Jan 23, 2012, 10:43 PM
This Super Bowl is My Personal Hell II. As the lesser of two evils, just as last time, I'll be rooting for the Giants. :embarassed:
C'mon man, I told you, the sooner you realize there's only one football team in NY the sooner you'll love football. No better time than the present :thumbsup:
It'll just be that much more glorious when my time comes
(http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/images/07/30/bill-parcells.jpg)
Quote from: Ruckus on Jan 23, 2012, 10:54 PM
Quote from: j_rud on Jan 23, 2012, 10:47 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Jan 23, 2012, 10:43 PM
This Super Bowl is My Personal Hell II. As the lesser of two evils, just as last time, I'll be rooting for the Giants. :embarassed:
C'mon man, I told you, the sooner you realize there's only one football team in NY the sooner you'll love football. No better time than the present :thumbsup:
It'll just be that much more glorious when my time comes
(http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/images/07/30/bill-parcells.jpg)
Aint no fupa like a Tuna fupa cuz a Tuna fupa dont stop!!!
Quote from: j_rud on Jan 23, 2012, 10:47 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Jan 23, 2012, 10:43 PM
This Super Bowl is My Personal Hell II. As the lesser of two evils, just as last time, I'll be rooting for the Giants. :embarassed:
C'mon man, I told you, the sooner you realize there's only one football team in NY the sooner you'll love football. No better time than the present :thumbsup:
Actually, there are no football teams in NY. There
ARE 2 teams based in New Jersey who "represent" New York, but who's paying attention to such trivial details, huh?
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jan 23, 2012, 11:09 PM
Quote from: j_rud on Jan 23, 2012, 10:47 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Jan 23, 2012, 10:43 PM
This Super Bowl is My Personal Hell II. As the lesser of two evils, just as last time, I'll be rooting for the Giants. :embarassed:
C'mon man, I told you, the sooner you realize there's only one football team in NY the sooner you'll love football. No better time than the present :thumbsup:
Actually, there are no football teams in NY. There ARE 2 teams based in New Jersey who "represent" New York, but who's paying attention to such trivial details, huh?
It is a trivial detail to me. You want to call them the Jersey Giants? OK, knock yourself out. Im pretty sure the Super Bowls carry over though.
WELCOME TO INDY GMEN AND PATRIOTS! You gonna' gets you some HOOSIER Hospitality... :thumbsup:
Never was a TO fan. Interesting read:
Terrell Owens In GQ: I'm In Hell
http://www.thepostgame.com/features/201201/terrell-owens-gq-jeremiah-trotter-told-me-not-apologize-donovan-mcnabb (http://www.thepostgame.com/features/201201/terrell-owens-gq-jeremiah-trotter-told-me-not-apologize-donovan-mcnabb)
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jan 24, 2012, 05:32 PM
Never was a TO fan. Interesting read:
Terrell Owens In GQ: I'm In Hell
http://www.thepostgame.com/features/201201/terrell-owens-gq-jeremiah-trotter-told-me-not-apologize-donovan-mcnabb (http://www.thepostgame.com/features/201201/terrell-owens-gq-jeremiah-trotter-told-me-not-apologize-donovan-mcnabb)
So this is the end result of "I love me some me". Well I'm just shocked.
Quote from: TEO on Jan 24, 2012, 06:48 AM
WELCOME TO INDY GMEN AND PATRIOTS! You gonna' gets you some HOOSIER Hospitality... :thumbsup:
Man Teo, I'm sooooo tempted to do this, but it'll KILL my concert/road trip budget for the year.
With a Bruce tour announced, Forecastle, and hopefully many more MMJ dates,I think I'm going to have to pass on Indy,and have faith that Eli will get the G-Men to another Super Bowl in the not too distant future.
Quote from: ericm on Jan 24, 2012, 06:24 PM
Quote from: TEO on Jan 24, 2012, 06:48 AM
WELCOME TO INDY GMEN AND PATRIOTS! You gonna' gets you some HOOSIER Hospitality... :thumbsup:
Man Teo, I'm sooooo tempted to do this, but it'll KILL my concert/road trip budget for the year.
With a Bruce tour announced, Forecastle, and hopefully many more MMJ dates,I think I'm going to have to pass on Indy,and have faith that Eli will get the G-Men to another Super Bowl in the not too distant future.
Forecastle $$$ much better spent TEO say guaranteed good times!
Quote from: j_rud on Jan 24, 2012, 05:59 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jan 24, 2012, 05:32 PM
Never was a TO fan. Interesting read:
Terrell Owens In GQ: I'm In Hell
http://www.thepostgame.com/features/201201/terrell-owens-gq-jeremiah-trotter-told-me-not-apologize-donovan-mcnabb (http://www.thepostgame.com/features/201201/terrell-owens-gq-jeremiah-trotter-told-me-not-apologize-donovan-mcnabb)
So this is the end result of "I love me some me". Well I'm just shocked.
My thoughts exactly. Hard to feel sorry for a guy who made $80 million not including endorsements and god awful reality tv shows, alienated teammates and the media, and fathered four kids who he's never sought visitation rights for.
Quote from: aMillionDreams on Jan 25, 2012, 07:16 AM
Quote from: j_rud on Jan 24, 2012, 05:59 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jan 24, 2012, 05:32 PM
Never was a TO fan. Interesting read:
Terrell Owens In GQ: I'm In Hell
http://www.thepostgame.com/features/201201/terrell-owens-gq-jeremiah-trotter-told-me-not-apologize-donovan-mcnabb (http://www.thepostgame.com/features/201201/terrell-owens-gq-jeremiah-trotter-told-me-not-apologize-donovan-mcnabb)
So this is the end result of "I love me some me". Well I'm just shocked.
My thoughts exactly. Hard to feel sorry for a guy who made $80 million not including endorsements and god awful reality tv shows, alienated teammates and the media, and fathered four kids who he's never sought visitation rights for.
Exactly right! You treat people like shit and do bad things it comes back at you. Karma baby.
GO GIANTS!!
A little joke to get us through Super Bowl Thursday:
Tom Brady, after living a full life, died. When he got to heaven, God was showing him around. They came to a modest little house with a faded Patriots flag in the window. "This house is yours for eternity, Tom," said God. "This is very special; not everyone gets a house up here." Tom felt special, indeed, and walked up to his house. On his way up to the porch he noticed another house just around the corner. It was a 3-story mansion with a Blue and Red sidewalk, a 50 foot tall flagpole with an enormous Giants logo flag, and in every window, a Giants towel. Tom looked at God and said, "God, I'm not trying to be ungrateful, but I have a question. I was an all-pro QB, I hold many NFL records, and I even won a few Super bowls." God said, "So what's your point Tom?" "Well, why does Eli Manning get a better house than me?" God chuckled, and said, "Tom, that's not Eli's house, it's mine." ;D ;D
Brandon Jacobs said the Giants had their best practice in years yesterday. Bill Belichick agreed after he watched it on tape. ;)
zing!
Go Niners! Oh, wait.... :embarassed:
:)
Quote from: johnnYYac on Feb 02, 2012, 02:57 PM
:)
You know I'm just bustin' John. I couldn't resist the dig! ;)
I like Belichick a lot, going back to his days on the Giants staff. If they weren't playing the G-Men, I'd be pulling for them. There's no Giant - Pats rivalry, imo. Definitely not like the Yankee - Red Sox one, that's for sure.
Quote from: ericm on Feb 02, 2012, 04:39 PM
Quote from: johnnYYac on Feb 02, 2012, 02:57 PM
:)
You know I'm just bustin' John. I couldn't resist the dig! ;)
I like Belichick a lot, going back to his days on the Giants staff. If they weren't playing the G-Men, I'd be pulling for them. There's no Giant - Pats rivalry, imo. Definitely not like the Yankee - Red Sox one, that's for sure.
Its all good. I predict either the Patriots or the Giants will win. I will, and forever shall remain, a Patriots fan, so I have my hopes for a 4th ring in 11 years, but I don't bet money on football. Any given Sunday. Should be a good game.
Quote from: Ruckus on Jan 23, 2012, 10:43 PM
Quote from: johnnYYac on Jan 23, 2012, 03:44 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jan 23, 2012, 01:04 PM
Quote from: johnnYYac on Jan 23, 2012, 11:49 AM
New England sports fans suffer a lot for our occasional moments of glory.
::)
Every major sports franchise in New England has won a title in the past 10 years, with the Pats and Sox winning multiple. Maybe if you posted this in 1999...
You guys win A LOT so that's why people hate. People hate the Patriots, Steelers, Cowboys; it's just part of it. People don't really hate the Saints b/c we have 1 title in 45 years. And we got Katrina sympathy.
However, I agree with you on the "cheaters" thing; that's old and needs to go away. The Pats didn't cheat to reach dynasty status.
I hear you. I'm thinking back to my formative years, the 70s and 80s, where only the Celtics were bringing much glory to New England. The Pats in '86 embarrassed themselves in the Superbowl against Chicago, Buckner blew it for the Sox that same year, I believe. So, I feel like we, as fans, stuck with the shit long enough to enjoy what is happening with the Pats. Believe me, during those years we hated the dynasty teams, so I suppose I understand and shouldn't complain. And I feel the pain Saints fans have gone through. This forum is lousy with NY and Pitt fans, so NE is bound to get some hate, I suppose.
C'mon Johnny ;D Color me jealous. Why do you seek respect? All you guys do is win. What more do you want? Of course fans are gonna give you shit. That's the fun of sports. When you compound the Patriots success with Brady's All American pretty boy thingy and Bellichick being a total douche (in our minds), that's a perfect recipe for hatin' for non Pats fans. It's like a Yankee fan complaining about not getting respect while shoving Jeter and Arod in your face every year. In my close to 34 years of existence, neither my football team nor baseball team have made their respective championship finals so yes, I will roll my eyes at the long suffering of New England fans. ;D Also, this team is virtually a new team from the Matt Cassell 11-5 team except for Wilfork, Brady, Mayo, Gostkowski, Law Firm and a few others. How are your new Uggs for men treating you? ;)
Even if the Saints had three Super Bowls over the last decade, I wouldn't hate as much because of course they aren't my division rival but also just because Brees and Payton are just more likable.
This Super Bowl is My Personal Hell II. As the lesser of two evils, just as last time, I'll be rooting for the Giants. :embarassed:
In the famous words of Ozzy Guillen:
Ozzie Guillen "Psh Please" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfnujUPUnkU#)
Try being a Cleveland fan and then you'll learn all about what it's like to be longsuffering fans.
Previous threats from right to work opponents (that passed this week) have said they will cease threats to block entrances to Lucas with bodies and trucks. SO much security around this could have really turned ugly Sunday. crazylove's assignation of greeter last evening took her to a hotel that was filled with FBI agents 20 miles from the venue. Hope everything is smooth with no disruption...
Quote from: TEO on Feb 03, 2012, 05:04 PM
Previous threats from right to work opponents (that passed this week) have said they will cease threats to block entrances to Lucas with bodies and trucks. SO much security around this could have really turned ugly Sunday. crazylove's assignation of greeter last evening took her to a hotel that was filled with FBI agents 20 miles from the venue. Hope everything is smooth with no disruption...
Just watchout for those expoding manhole covers. I heard they spent a couple hundred grand to replace the ones downtown.
That was an incredible game and I'm glad I bet the GMen. You just knew going in it would be a close game coming down to the last possession. While Welker and others take the blame, Mr. Brady gets a pass again? As some of you here know, one of my biggest pet peeves is the term "rookie mistake" because of how conveniently it is used while veterans never make dumb mistakes. Freshman and rookies have been playing football their whole lives. You don't just forget. I say this because Brady made a horrible "rookie mistake" yesterday. His throw to nobody on the first play of the game had as great an impact on the game as Welker's drop. It just wasn't as prominent in our memories. GREAT GAME!
I thought it was a good game, definitely not as epic as Super Bowl 42 (42 and 43 being the best SB's in recent years). I think Brady definitely missed on a lot of those throws in the fourth quarter, you can't really blame the receivers (Gisele). He straight up missed on that throw to Welker, he was wide open and that throw was on Welker's back shoulder and he really had to stretch to make a play on it. One of Hernandez's drops was the only one that stuck out as bad. Obviously the INT and the intentional grounding were poor decisions. I thought that was a good call, I don't see the controversy there. Agree with you on that ruckus, shouldn't matter if the ball was deep down the middle, there just wasn't anyone nearby. All in all I'm happy with the outcome, I hate the Pats and the Giants are probably the only NY team I don't hate. I'm an Eli fan and all but what's with ESPN declaring him HOF bound? I didn't hear any of that after Ben's second Super Bowl.
Brady's 3 Super Bowl rings are why he gets the benefit of the doubt more often than not. And I would argue that on that intentional grounding, one of those receivers should have broken deep so that there could have been a receiver in the vicinity (Branch).
Giselle's comments are what is making this a bigger deal than it should be. Who really cares what she has to say? Tom Brady would NEVER throw his receivers under the bus. That was his girlfriend doing that! Big difference!
And spare me about the throw being off to Welker. He had TWO hands on the football. He is an elite receiver and elite receivers make those plays. He was WIDE open and there wasn't a defender within a couple of yards of him. Yes, the throw could have been a little better, but Welker needs to make that catch. Look at the catch Super Mario made. He had 2 defenders all over him and the sideline to deal with and he still made the catch. Manningham's catch was far more difficult of a catch than the one Welker dropped.
The Patriots had numerous chances to sew that game up and failed along the way. The ball was literally bouncing (2 fumbles) the Giants' way, as it does sometimes. Also, I am a big Eli fan, since he went to Ole Miss, but I am going to need a little more regular season majic (9-7?) before handing him a yellow jacket. The Manning name gets him HOF nods while Rothliesbeger's name doesn't and the fact he had the 2 sexual assault charges, plus the Steelers beat the Seahawks and Cards for their wins, not the mighty Patriots.
Not digging all the Welker hate. How about the Patriots try to get the right number of players on the field (the overturned fumble in the red zone), ya know? Start with the basics? Yes, he "should" have made the catch, but still it was a hard catch and the ball thrown behind him. It definently wasn't a drop in the league of Jackie Smith:
Jackie Smith (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLY2YCn7Ogg#)
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Feb 07, 2012, 10:24 AM
It definently wasn't a drop in the league of Jackie Smith:
Jackie Smith (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLY2YCn7Ogg#)
Thanks for bringing that one up again... :dankk2:
Why is nothing ever Brady's fault ILB? Unless it is a designed call ' are receivers supposed to break deep when your qb is in trouble near or in the end zone? Of course Welker should have made that catch but it was one play. What it did was expose Welker for what he is. A short, short armed receiver with poor in air body control. Sure he's great at catching 5yd ins and outs from the slot from Brady. Manning had no picks. Brady threw the under throw pick to Chase Blackburn. They barely make it to the Super Bowl and then have to hear reasons why they lost to a better all around team. It annoys the hell out of me.
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Feb 07, 2012, 10:24 AM
The Patriots had numerous chances to sew that game up and failed along the way. The ball was literally bouncing (2 fumbles) the Giants' way, as it does sometimes. Also, I am a big Eli fan, since he went to Ole Miss, but I am going to need a little more regular season majic (9-7?) before handing him a yellow jacket. The Manning name gets him HOF nods while Rothliesbeger's name doesn't and the fact he had the 2 sexual assault charges, plus the Steelers beat the Seahawks and Cards for their wins, not the mighty Patriots.
Not digging all the Welker hate. How about the Patriots try to get the right number of players on the field (the overturned fumble in the red zone), ya know? Start with the basics? Yes, he "should" have made the catch, but still it was a hard catch and the ball thrown behind him. It definently wasn't a drop in the league of Jackie Smith:
Jackie Smith (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLY2YCn7Ogg#)
You said "assault charges" when I think you meant "allegations". And if the Cardinals and Seahawks weren't good enough for you then another team should've beaten them. And as it turned out Steelers vs. Cardinals made for a great SB. Seems like you're always trying to diminish our Super Bowls because we didn't have to play the Pats or we only had to play the Seahawks.
I'm not trying to make excuses as to why the Pats lost. I can admit that the Giants were the better team and I was questioning why Vegas even had the Pats as favorites considering how well the Giants have owned the Pats of late and how well the Giants had been playing since, basically the last 4 weeks of the regular season.
I guess I just find it humorous and am quite puzzled by the amount of hatred fans outside of New England show to Tom Brady. I mean, you hate him because he wins or because he has a hot wife? It's not like this guy has just had everything handed to him. He's had to work his ass off to get to where he is. Remember he was a freaking 6th round draft pick?
Frankly, I'm damn impressed with what Tom Brady has accomplished in going from a little known 6th round draft pick who had to fight his ass of just to share starting time with a true freshman his sr. year at Michigan, to being on a short list of the greatest QB's to ever play the game. Guess that's just me though...
I hate him because of this.
(http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/tom-brady-goofy.gif)
Quote from: iLikeBeer on Feb 07, 2012, 02:07 PM
I'm not trying to make excuses as to why the Pats lost. I can admit that the Giants were the better team and I was questioning why Vegas even had the Pats as favorites considering how well the Giants have owned the Pats of late and how well the Giants had been playing since, basically the last 4 weeks of the regular season.
I guess I just find it humorous and am quite puzzled by the amount of hatred fans outside of New England show to Tom Brady. I mean, you hate him because he wins or because he has a hot wife? It's not like this guy has just had everything handed to him. He's had to work his ass off to get to where he is. Remember he was a freaking 6th round draft pick?
Frankly, I'm damn impressed with what Tom Brady has accomplished in going from a little known 6th round draft pick who had to fight his ass of just to share starting time with a true freshman his sr. year at Michigan, to being on a short list of the greatest QB's to ever play the game. Guess that's just me though...
I knew I was forgetting something! You're a Michigan guy! I'm sure you'd be showering him with adulation if Brady was a Buckeye (Penny cringes).
I don't hate the guy at all. In fact I respect him a great deal but feel that he's gotten too much credit through the years, just like Brett Favre and Troy Aikman. He won his three Super Bowls with great teams with a defense, running game, a Mr. Vinatieri and the tuck rule. He's but deserves blame as well sometimes. His career Super Bowl numbers are OK . He's very much the football Derek Jeter but better.
Quote from: ManNamedTruth on Feb 07, 2012, 01:49 PM
You said "assault charges" when I think you meant "allegations". And if the Cardinals and Seahawks weren't good enough for you then another team should've beaten them. And as it turned out Steelers vs. Cardinals made for a great SB. Seems like you're always trying to diminish our Super Bowls because we didn't have to play the Pats or we only had to play the Seahawks.
Yeah, my bad; "accusations" of sexual assault, one of which he just settled out of court. Seems like a great guy... :-\ You were asking why no one gave Roth. his props and I am simply telling you why: Brady, Manning(s), Brees, Rodgers, ALL class acts and they represent the NFL in a respectable way. Roethisberger is a bum with 2 rings and the NFL knows it. That's the bottom line.
MVP! MVP! MVP!
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Got this and a load more this morning at the parade...anyone else make it?
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Feb 07, 2012, 03:49 PM
Quote from: ManNamedTruth on Feb 07, 2012, 01:49 PM
You said "assault charges" when I think you meant "allegations". And if the Cardinals and Seahawks weren't good enough for you then another team should've beaten them. And as it turned out Steelers vs. Cardinals made for a great SB. Seems like you're always trying to diminish our Super Bowls because we didn't have to play the Pats or we only had to play the Seahawks.
Yeah, my bad; "accusations" of sexual assault, one of which he just settled out of court. Seems like a great guy... :-\ You were asking why no one gave Roth. his props and I am simply telling you why: Brady, Manning(s), Brees, Rodgers, ALL class acts and they represent the NFL in a respectable way. Roethisberger is a bum with 2 rings and the NFL knows it. That's the bottom line.
Well either way those accusations happened after the 2 Super Bowls, try harder Tracy.
Tom Brady would have 0 Super Bowls with the Steelers O-line.
Quote from: ManNamedTruth on Feb 07, 2012, 07:36 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Feb 07, 2012, 03:49 PM
Quote from: ManNamedTruth on Feb 07, 2012, 01:49 PM
You said "assault charges" when I think you meant "allegations". And if the Cardinals and Seahawks weren't good enough for you then another team should've beaten them. And as it turned out Steelers vs. Cardinals made for a great SB. Seems like you're always trying to diminish our Super Bowls because we didn't have to play the Pats or we only had to play the Seahawks.
Yeah, my bad; "accusations" of sexual assault, one of which he just settled out of court. Seems like a great guy... :-\ You were asking why no one gave Roth. his props and I am simply telling you why: Brady, Manning(s), Brees, Rodgers, ALL class acts and they represent the NFL in a respectable way. Roethisberger is a bum with 2 rings and the NFL knows it. That's the bottom line.
Well either way those accusations happened after the 2 Super Bowls, try harder Tracy.
Sorry, it's hard to keep up the big ben timeline of sexual assault accusations...
Roethisberger is a bum with 2 rings and the NFL knows it.
What's YOUR opinion why no one talks about him being a hall of famer? Is it b/c he's a great guy and the NFL wants someone like him to be the face of the NFL? Or maybe he's an average QB playing with a great Defense? Do tell. B/c seriously, I cannot remember arguing with someone about if Brady or Manning etc... was charged with a felony rather than just accused. Twice.
Quote from: ManNamedTruth on Feb 07, 2012, 07:42 PM
Tom Brady would have 0 Super Bowls with the Steelers O-line.
So you're saying big ben is a better QB than Brady? ;D ;D ;D ;D
yyeeeeaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh riiiiiiiiiigggggghhhhhhhhhhhttttttttttttttttttt
Two different styles is all I'm saying. Brady takes a sack before he's even touched, pretty weak shit IMO. Ben only needs one more Super Bowl victory to match the great Tom Brady, if that's what (should be) is ultimately judged of a QB. Unless you were there you don't know what Ben did or didn't do, the first girl seemed like a headcase at least, that's all I have to say about that.
Quote from: ManNamedTruth on Feb 07, 2012, 08:32 PM
Two different styles is all I'm saying. Brady takes a sack before he's even touched, pretty weak shit IMO. Ben only needs one more Super Bowl victory to match the great Tom Brady, if that's what (should be) is ultimately judged of a QB. Unless you were there you don't know what Ben did or didn't do, the first girl seemed like a headcase at least, that's all I have to say about that.
I really don't get you Steelers fans; 2 titles in 05 and 08, but mention Tom Brady and it's as if you went 0-16 every year for the last 25 years. Mind boggling...
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Feb 07, 2012, 08:35 PM
Quote from: ManNamedTruth on Feb 07, 2012, 08:32 PM
Two different styles is all I'm saying. Brady takes a sack before he's even touched, pretty weak shit IMO. Ben only needs one more Super Bowl victory to match the great Tom Brady, if that's what (should be) is ultimately judged of a QB. Unless you were there you don't know what Ben did or didn't do, the first girl seemed like a headcase at least, that's all I have to say about that.
I really don't get you Steelers fans; 2 titles in 05 and 08, but mention Tom Brady and it's as if you went 0-16 every year for the last 25 years. Mind boggling...
ooops, what I meant to say was > but mention Tom Brady and it's as if you went 0-16 every year for the last 24 years and 0-15 in 1987.
That's better :)
Gronk ankle no hurt no more. Dancey time for Gronk. GRONK DANCE NOW!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/07/rob-gronkowski-dancing-super-bowl-loss_n_1259992.html?ref=sports (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/07/rob-gronkowski-dancing-super-bowl-loss_n_1259992.html?ref=sports)
Quote from: Ruckus on Feb 08, 2012, 10:24 AM
Gronk ankle no hurt no more. Dancey time for Gronk. GRONK DANCE NOW!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/07/rob-gronkowski-dancing-super-bowl-loss_n_1259992.html?ref=sports (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/07/rob-gronkowski-dancing-super-bowl-loss_n_1259992.html?ref=sports)
This was so bizarre. What was he thinking? Sure it's easier to drop it like it's hot or do the Dougie (or whatever the new dance craze is) than it is to run routes in the NFL, but still, what a horrible decision for the Gronkster. He's lucky Giselle is getting all of the attention right now. His time is coming.
So, when you've had a bad day at work, you can't go out to celebrate the fact that its over? C'mon guys. I know you hate the Pats, and I'm not happy seeing him bounce around on that ankle, but I've seen many of you tear it up in the pit with greater vigor than your age or health might suggest wise, present company included. Lets not forget he's only 22. Go back to your parades, enjoy the victory, frame it as "beating the Pats" instead of "Giants win" if you like. But the season is over. Time to move on.
Are you serious Johnny? Just having a laugh dude. The meathead chest bump is priceless! Imagine if I took it personally every time someone bashed Rex Ryan or Kobe Bryant. Guess what? I wouldn't because I'd agree with them. I think his dancing is FUNNY! Do you think I am judging him because he is partying at a club? Hell no
Quote from: johnnYYac on Feb 08, 2012, 10:43 AM
So, when you've had a bad day at work, you can't go out to celebrate the fact that its over? C'mon guys. I know you hate the Pats, and I'm not happy seeing him bounce around on that ankle, but I've seen many of you tear it up in the pit with greater vigor than your age or health might suggest wise, present company included. Lets not forget he's only 22. Go back to your parades, enjoy the victory, frame it as "beating the Pats" instead of "Giants win" if you like. But the season is over. Time to move on.
Haha, Yac. I have NO issues with the Pats whatsoever. I think they're fun to watch. I was pulling for the Giants because I like Eli, but after that gutsy call from Belichick to let the Giants score, I would have been okay with the Pats winning. I just think it was terrible lack in judgment by Gronk and completely uncharacteristic of Pats players, in general. That's Gronk's second dumb offense (that I know of). Remember the porn star thingie? The Patriots organization doesn't have a reputation of putting up with that kind of stuff.
Also, I have no issues with it, either. But, I'm not a NE fan. That's a pretty relentless market up there and I can see a lot of people being pissssssed about it.
Sorry guys. Not trying to come across over sensitive, but Sunday night sucked and I shouldn't be reading these threads. Losing sucks. So does Gronk's dancing. ;D
Between this video and his pics with Miss Porno wearing his jersey, he's got some learnin' to do.
Don't take me too seriously, either.
:)
the sound quality wasn't great in that video. i couldn't quite make out was Gronk was dancing to. Was it this..
Men Without Hats - Safety Dance [Official Video] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7movKfyTBII#)
Please don't hate me Yac. I could not resist. :D
Yac don't hate.
Quote from: johnnYYac on Feb 08, 2012, 03:14 PM
Sorry guys. Not trying to come across over sensitive, but Sunday night sucked and I shouldn't be reading these threads. Losing sucks. So does Gronk's dancing. ;D
Between this video and his pics with Miss Porno wearing his jersey, he's got some learnin' to do.
Don't take me too seriously, either.
I don't know what Jon T. is talking about. I love how we differentiate between Mrs. Brady and Ms. Kinda Unnaturally Large Breasts in Gronk Jersey. They both sell their bodies for money. The latter just has more fun doing it and Gronk doesn't have to marry her. win/win?
Quote from: Ruckus on Feb 08, 2012, 08:49 PM
Quote from: johnnYYac on Feb 08, 2012, 03:14 PM
Sorry guys. Not trying to come across over sensitive, but Sunday night sucked and I shouldn't be reading these threads. Losing sucks. So does Gronk's dancing. ;D
Between this video and his pics with Miss Porno wearing his jersey, he's got some learnin' to do.
Don't take me too seriously, either.
I don't know what Jon T. is talking about. I love how we differentiate between Mrs. Brady and Ms. Kinda Unnaturally Large Breasts in Gronk Jersey. They both sell their bodies for money. The latter just has more fun doing it and Gronk doesn't have to marry her. win/win?
I'm not judging any of them. I did more stupid stuff between 18-22 than Gronk or his adult film friend ever will. Okay, maybe not her. All I'm saying is that him posing with said film star after they probably made sweet, sweet love and then twittering (tweeting?) the pic was not a good idea. Just like him dancing after a Superbowl loss that he was injured in was not a good idea. Seems like there could be a pattern and the Patriots don't typically put up with that kind of stuff.
Fuck it, let's all go bowling. Gronk and his friend, too.
PS- Did you all see Gronkowski's little brother in what has to be one of the best Halloween costumes ever?
(http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/images/11/2011/10/gronk.jpg)
Tracy? Tracy? You there? Surely the Saints story will be blown out of proportion. Nonetheless if true, it makes a very compelling story, particularly coming from a franchise that was generally perceived as being one of class. As with the Buddy Ryan Eagles and teams before and after, clearly bounties have been part of the game for a long time. I'm more surprised by the whistle blower. What does he have against the Saints?
Quote from: Ruckus on Mar 05, 2012, 08:29 AM
Tracy? Tracy? You there? Surely the Saints story will be blown out of proportion. Nonetheless if true, it makes a very compelling story, particularly coming from a franchise that was generally perceived as being one of class. As with the Buddy Ryan Eagles and teams before and after, clearly bounties have been part of the game for a long time. I'm more surprised by the whistle blower. What does he have against the Saints?
Well, it would make a lot more sense if the Saint's D didn't suck! ;D
I think this is league wide and it's been a hush-hush thing until now (like steroids in MLB). I blame Twitter and the "oh so 4 seconds ago" culture we have. I don't support having $$ dished out for injury and the NFL will probably come down hard to prove something. But face it, if your opposing teams stars are not on the field then your odds of winning increase and when you win more you get more butts in the seats and advertising and playoffs, etc...ad nauseum. Simple Econ 101 under the guise of a violent sport.
However, I am wondering how much McCray got paid for this retirement hit on KW (and at the end of the day, it was a
legal hit). But show me any defensive player on any level who isn't going to light up the QB in that situation.
Kurt Warner Gets Hit against the Saints 2010 playoffs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC1T1tAbA4s#)
Yeah it could get ugly for you guys. I can't speculate on the prevalence of bounties but surely the Saints aren't the only ones still doing it. That said, if it was the Steelers getting busted instead of the Saints... ;D ;D ;D ;)
Quote from: Ruckus on Mar 05, 2012, 10:05 AM
That said, if it was the Steelers getting busted instead of the Saints... ;D ;D ;D ;)
Well, if it were the Steelers, it would be an improvement from their past behaviors and I would applaud them. I just expect more from the Saints.
It's funny that people still criticize the Steelers when something has nothing to do with them. How about the Ravens who have openly talked to the media about having bounties on Steelers players?
In case you missed it or forgot -
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/75056-ravens-bounty-talk-angers-steelers (http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/75056-ravens-bounty-talk-angers-steelers)
So Peyton is a free agent...where's he going? Will be interesting. No pressure on Andrew Luck ::)
Quote from: Hawkeye on Mar 07, 2012, 01:39 PM
So Peyton is a free agent...where's he going? Will be interesting. No pressure on Andrew Luck ::)
Well, as a Browns fan hoping like hell to wing the RG3 sweepstakes, I'm hoping crazy ass Dan Snyder goes all in for Manning so that the Browns won't have to give up every draft pick for the next 5 years to out bid that crazy ass for the #2 pick from the Rams.
Quote from: iLikeBeer on Mar 07, 2012, 02:04 PM
Quote from: Hawkeye on Mar 07, 2012, 01:39 PM
So Peyton is a free agent...where's he going? Will be interesting. No pressure on Andrew Luck ::)
Well, as a Browns fan hoping like hell to wing the RG3 sweepstakes, I'm hoping crazy ass Dan Snyder goes all in for Manning so that the Browns won't have to give up every draft pick for the next 5 years to out bid that crazy ass for the #2 pick from the Rams.
So Peyton won't play for an NFC East team? Sooo the Redskins will be bidding with your beloved for RGIII or maybe even Luck?
A green jersey awaits you Mr. Manning
Quote from: Ruckus on Mar 08, 2012, 09:01 AM
Quote from: iLikeBeer on Mar 07, 2012, 02:04 PM
Quote from: Hawkeye on Mar 07, 2012, 01:39 PM
So Peyton is a free agent...where's he going? Will be interesting. No pressure on Andrew Luck ::)
Well, as a Browns fan hoping like hell to wing the RG3 sweepstakes, I'm hoping crazy ass Dan Snyder goes all in for Manning so that the Browns won't have to give up every draft pick for the next 5 years to out bid that crazy ass for the #2 pick from the Rams.
So Peyton won't play for an NFC East team? Sooo the Redskins will be bidding with your beloved for RGIII or maybe even Luck?
A green jersey awaits you Mr. Manning
You mean your not in love with Mr. GQ??? :P
Denver, Miami, or Arizona look like the most obvious spots for Manning after that Washington trade. Sorry Cleveland fans but I don't see Peyton wanting to play for such a bad team. Didn't Jets recently re-sign Sanchez ruckus? It will be interesting to see if Wayne and/or Clark follow Peyton to wherever he goes.
Quote from: ManNamedTruth on Mar 11, 2012, 12:16 AM
Denver, Miami, or Arizona look like the most obvious spots for Manning after that Washington trade. Sorry Cleveland fans but I don't see Peyton wanting to play for such a bad team. Didn't Jets recently re-sign Sanchez ruckus? It will be interesting to see if Wayne and/or Clark follow Peyton to wherever he goes.
Yeah the Jets resigned Sanchez yesterday. I posted the above 4 days ago.
Hey ILB. Who had a worse weekend? Browns fans or Jets fans? ;D I understand why the Jets extended Sanchez because they felt it was a bargain considering what a veteran qb makes in the NFL. That said, something needs to light a fire under his ass. The coddling has to stop.
What do the Browns do now? Tannehill? The Skins gave up quite the bounty. I am however excited for my girlfriend, a Skins fan, who finally has something to cheer for short and long term.
Good question Ruckus! ;D
I didn't like reading Cleveland's GM stating that they still believe in Colt McCoy?! Really??? This is not good news from where I'm sitting. I have yet to see anything from Colt McCoy that leaves me confident in believing he can bring the Browns back to relevance...
As for RG3, I am also glad that the Browns didn't try to get into a bidding war with the madman that is Dan Snyder. Yes, RG3 was a dynamic player in college and everyone seems to think he will be a great pro, but the bottom line is, he is unproven in the pros and the Redskins paid a pretty steep price to get him. The Browns have WAY too many needs, and IMO, the Redskins have a ton of needs as well, so you have to wonder if giving up that many first rounders to get one player is really worth it?
As for where the Browns go, I'm hoping Blackmon will be there at 4 and that would be a good start. The Browns are in dire need of receivers. Also, they should be able to get a solid player at 22 as well. I've also heard the Browns might try and go after Matt Flynn as a free agent to help in the QB department but I'm hoping they don't overspend to get him either. Maybe the Browns can suck one more year and Denard Robinson will blow up his senior year and they can draft him at QB next year! 8) What am I saying maybe for? We know the Browns will still suck next year! >:(
Wow...Sean Payton got suspended for 1 year!
http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2012/03/new_orleans_saints_are_penaliz.html (http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2012/03/new_orleans_saints_are_penaliz.html)
New Orleans Saints Coach Sean Payton suspended for 1 year
03/21/12 12:28PM
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James Varney, The Times-Picayune
The NFL has suspended New Orleans Saints Coach Sean Payton for a full year following an investigation into a bounty program the league said the Saints employed from 2009 to 2011, according to internet reports.
Payton's suspension is supposed to begin on April 1.
New Orleans general manager Mickey Loomis was also hit with an 8-game suspension and fined $500,000. Former defensive coordiantor Gregg Williams, now with the Rams, has been suspended indefinitely.
Assistant head coach/linebackers coach Joe Vitt was hit with a 6-game suspension without pay as well.
The team loses the second round pick in this year's draft as well as a second-round pick in next year's draft and will be fined $500,000.
The punishments come against a backdrop of looming litigation. A growing number of players have filed lawsuits against the NFL and various equipment makers, alleging the parties were insufficiently diligent in making player safety a priority. Goodell has made it clear he wants player safety to be a hallmark of his time as commissioner, pushing for rules changes that protect players on the field and levying heavy fines against players for hits ruled too savage.
The report Goodell and the league issued on the Saints March 2 could be seen as another important step in that campaign. In addition, there was widespread speculation the penalties imposed on New Orleans would be severe as the league looked to send a message.
Since March 2 several players came forward to say "pay for performance" systems were far from unheard of in the NFL, although all of them drew a distinction between bonuses for high-impact plays like interceptions or recovered fumbles and plays seeking to injure an opponent.
It was that latter element the NFL alleged comprised part of the Saints' operations and thus made it particularly malevolent. Although the league carefully guarded its evidence, Goodell and NFL officials claim to have sorted through some 18,000 documents, whose veracity was established by "forensic experts," and "multiple independent sources."
That investigation proved, most tellingly, that there was a lack of institutional control in New Orleans. Tuesday's penalties also fall under the "conduct detrimental" standard that gives the commissioner wide latitude.
i'm actually surprised at Paytons suspension not so much about everything else.
i'm also surprise that Tebow is now a JET. Ruckus, whatchu think?
(http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/the91stminute/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Tebow-Sanchez.jpg)
I am likely one of the few Jets fans that immediately approved of this trade when it was first prematurely announced. I'm not a huge Tebow fan so much as I am highly entertained by him. Nonetheless, we gave up what amounts to a 4th round pick for a solid backup quarterback that can really help us in short yardage situations and other unique packages. As for the hype and NFL drooling over storyline side of it, I find it amusing. I'll always cheer for that deranged Tebow. He's hilarious! ;D
I'm sorry to Sassbox, Nova, and Tracy but I think Goodell had it right this time around. The NFL has to protect itself from future litigation and the owners know this. The Saints halo is gone. The 2 2nd rounders will hurt more than the loss of Payton because solely for its long term effect. I always liked Payton, but there was always a smugness about him that makes more sense to me now. I hope players understand that tweeting about the unfairness of Goodell can only hurt them. The only unfair part of this is the raw deal the Rams got. They really have no recourse and now all the top coordinators are off the market. The NFL really handcuffed them there with the Gregg Williams situation.
Quote from: Ruckus on Mar 22, 2012, 11:56 AM
(http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/the91stminute/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Tebow-Sanchez.jpg)
I am likely one of the few Jets fans that immediately approved of this trade when it was first prematurely announced. I'm not a huge Tebow fan so much as I am highly entertained by him. Nonetheless, we gave up what amounts to a 4th round pick for a solid backup quarterback that can really help us in short yardage situations and other unique packages. As for the hype and NFL drooling over storyline side of it, I find it amusing. I'll always cheer for that deranged Tebow. He's hilarious! ;D
Ruckus, do you really think this will end well for Sanchez? I mean, that dude is already a headcase and his teammates were hardly behind him as their season unravelled last year. The QB has to be the leader of the locker room and I just don't see that from Sanchez. My question is, what happens if the Jets and Sanchez struggle out of the gates next year and the fickle NY fans start calling for Tebow to start just like Broncos fans did in Denver last season?
The problem for your Jets is that they have too many players that can't seem to figure out how to keep their mouths (tweets) quiet. I mean, there are already players tweeting about how they don't like the move to trade for Tebow. And is it really all that surprising to see a locker room full of opinionated players who can't seem to keep their opinions in the locker room where they belong when they have the most opinionated and loud mouth head coach in the NFL?
Quote from: Ruckus on Mar 22, 2012, 11:56 AM
I'm sorry to Sassbox, Nova, and Tracy but I think Goodell had it right this time around. The NFL has to protect itself from future litigation and the owners know this. The Saints halo is gone. The 2 2nd rounders will hurt more than the loss of Payton because solely for its long term effect. I always liked Payton, but there was always a smugness about him that makes more sense to me now. I hope players understand that tweeting about the unfairness of Goodell can only hurt them. The only unfair part of this is the raw deal the Rams got. They really have no recourse and now all the top coordinators are off the market. The NFL really handcuffed them there with the Gregg Williams situation.
I totally agree. The evidence against Payton is pretty damning. He was warned multiple times and there is an email trail that shows he was aware of the bounties going on AFTER multiple warnings from the commissioner's office!
No longer are the Saints the darlings of the NFL. Can we start referring them as the 'Aints' again???
I don't understand the "warning" part, which leads me to believe other teams were participating with their own bounty systems and it was probably standard practice for years. You're going to "warn" me about an offense so horrendous that if I have to keep "warning" you about it then you'll be suspended for a year? How about you suspend them for a year the first time you find out about it? Want to send a message? Do that.
As for calling them the "aint's" I wouldn't do that just yet. The year we won the SB, we were a below average defensive team and last year we just sucked, ranked in the bottom of just about every category (that's WITH a one of a kind, unique to the lead, we're the only one's doing it, bounty system). It's our offense that brought the title and they'll be there next year with some chips on their shoulders, eh?
Quote from: Ruckus on Mar 22, 2012, 11:56 AM
I'm sorry to Sassbox, Nova, and Tracy but I think Goodell had it right this time around. The NFL has to protect itself from future litigation and the owners know this. The Saints halo is gone. The 2 2nd rounders will hurt more than the loss of Payton because solely for its long term effect. I always liked Payton, but there was always a smugness about him that makes more sense to me now. I hope players understand that tweeting about the unfairness of Goodell can only hurt them. The only unfair part of this is the raw deal the Rams got. They really have no recourse and now all the top coordinators are off the market. The NFL really handcuffed them there with the Gregg Williams situation.
No worries here.
The way that I read the NFL findings was that the Saints were given every chance to suspend the program. Time and time again, the Saints were found to still have the program. Payton and everyone else except Benson(!) lied over and over again.
Is the penalty harsh? Yes. Too harsh? I don't know. I have no real love for Goodell -- I'm a Steelers fan first. James Harrison, anyone? -- but from what I've read he gave the Saints every chance to discontinue the program.
Regarding the "everybody does it" charge, I don't disagree. What I do disagree with is the notion that other teams weren't investigated. I don't believe that Goodell went to the Ravens, discussed the multiple bounties that were placed on Roethlisberger ;), and that the Ravens willfully disregarded Goodell's warnings.
What I'm saying is, that from what I've read, no other team tried to play Goodell like he was some sort of middle school punk. You've got a commissioner who, from his first days, has not been shy about dishing out penalties and this is what you do...when you're guilty and everyone knows it?
Payton was wrong. He cost the Saints, not Goodell. My only regret is that Benson didn't get tied up in this somehow.
I think Williams should get a lifetime ban...apologies to the Rams.
Quote from: NoVa_NoLa on Mar 22, 2012, 02:52 PM
I think Williams should get a lifetime ban...apologies to the Rams.
Williams should have gotten a lifetime ban for his horrendous last minute D choices against the Niners in the playoffs.
Quote from: NoVa_NoLa on Mar 22, 2012, 02:52 PM
No worries here.
The way that I read the NFL findings was that the Saints were given every chance to suspend the program. Time and time again, the Saints were found to still have the program. Payton and everyone else except Benson(!) lied over and over again.
Is the penalty harsh? Yes. Too harsh? I don't know. I have no real love for Goodell -- I'm a Steelers fan first. James Harrison, anyone? -- but from what I've read he gave the Saints every chance to discontinue the program.
Regarding the "everybody does it" charge, I don't disagree. What I do disagree with is the notion that other teams weren't investigated. I don't believe that Goodell went to the Ravens, discussed the multiple bounties that were placed on Roethlisberger ;), and that the Ravens willfully disregarded Goodell's warnings.
What I'm saying is, that from what I've read, no other team tried to play Goodell like he was some sort of middle school punk. You've got a commissioner who, from his first days, has not been shy about dishing out penalties and this is what you do...when you're guilty and everyone knows it?
Payton was wrong. He cost the Saints, not Goodell. My only regret is that Benson didn't get tied up in this somehow.
I think Williams should get a lifetime ban...apologies to the Rams.
Good post Nova. One thing that frustrates me is when fans argue that everyone else is doing it so they should all be punished. While I have a hard time believing this wasn't going on at other teams, it was the extent, knowledge of it and the blatant disregard to try and stop it from the HC, the DC and the GM that has the Saints in the spot of bother they are in. They are the ones that got caught and I think Goodell is doing his best to ensure that, if this sort of bounty system is going on at other teams, it will now give teams something to think long and hard about if they choose to continue rewarding bounties.
To me, the punishments may have been a bit harsh, but at the same time, I feel that the Saints deserved every bit of it. They knew Goodell's rep as being a hardass and they chose to thumb their noses at him anyway and he is just letting them know they made the wrong choice in doing what they did and he is also letting it known to other teams to not choose to go down the path of the Saints or they too will feel Goodell's wrath...
Quote from: iLikeBeer on Mar 23, 2012, 10:33 AM
They are the ones that got caught and I think Goodell is doing his best to ensure that, if this sort of bounty system is going on at other teams, it will now give teams something to think long and hard about if they choose to continue rewarding bounties.
My point exactly. If we catch you doing this> HAVING A BOUNTY SYSTEM TO INJURE OPPOSING PLAYERS, we will give you a
warning that you need to stop. That really doesn't drive home the "magnitude" of Goodell's feelings about this.
I don't know; there's just more to this story than we'll ever know and I stand by my idea Goodell obviously knew about it and it was going to go public, so he had to save face and come down hard when he is the one to blame for doing nothing more than give a
warning.
In the real world, you don't get a
warning after you try to assault someone. You get a
warning for speeding, but if you get caught speeding again, they don't send you to jail.
I am in no way, shape or form defending my beloved Saints, but something stinks... ::)
The great Reg Dunlop (Paul Newman) was a big fan of bounties back in his Slap Shot days...
Reggie Dunlop and Tim McKracken (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PjYKAb5M-g#)
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Mar 23, 2012, 12:53 PM
Quote from: iLikeBeer on Mar 23, 2012, 10:33 AM
They are the ones that got caught and I think Goodell is doing his best to ensure that, if this sort of bounty system is going on at other teams, it will now give teams something to think long and hard about if they choose to continue rewarding bounties.
My point exactly. If we catch you doing this> HAVING A BOUNTY SYSTEM TO INJURE OPPOSING PLAYERS, we will give you a warning that you need to stop. That really doesn't drive home the "magnitude" of Goodell's feelings about this.
I don't know; there's just more to this story than we'll ever know and I stand by my idea Goodell obviously knew about it and it was going to go public, so he had to save face and come down hard when he is the one to blame for doing nothing more than give a warning.
In the real world, you don't get a warning after you try to assault someone. You get a warning for speeding, but if you get caught speeding again, they don't send you to jail.
I am in no way, shape or form defending my beloved Saints, but something stinks... ::)
Not defending Goodell in anyway, but my read was that all clubs which were
alleged to have bounty systems were warned...the hammer came down on the Saints when the NFL got irrefutable
proof (which might have been that email that Payton, after 2 seasons of denials, acknowledged referenced a bounty; or if the Shockey snitch rumors are true, there's no telling how much evidence they had or when they had it). I'm not sure that the NFL has any solid proof that any other club had/has injury bounty pools.
TRACY LOLZ!
I think it had to do with the new collective bargaining agreement which took effect prior to last season. The NFLPA likely added wording pressing league accountability concerning safety of the players. That the Saints continued after the warnings under the new agreement may have triggered this. The warning card doesn't work here. They said stop, Saints kept doing it. The Shockley thing interests me only because of my initial curiosity to who the whistle blower was.
Quote from: Ruckus on Mar 23, 2012, 02:48 PM
TRACY LOLZ!
I think it had to do with the new collective bargaining agreement which took effect prior to last season. The NFLPA likely added wording pressing league accountability concerning safety of the players. That the Saints continued after the warnings under the new agreement may have triggered this. The warning card doesn't work here. They said stop, Saints kept doing it. The Shockley thing interests me only because of my initial curiosity to who the whistle blower was.
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;D
Yeah yeah ;D. I immediately thought that but its a pain to fix shit on your phone. :embarassed: He never really made it next level eh?
Quote from: Ruckus on Mar 23, 2012, 03:04 PM
Yeah yeah ;D. I immediately thought that but its a pain to fix shit on your phone. :embarassed: He never really made it next level eh?
couldn't resist. i'm easily amused.
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